PS3 Genji To Use Hard Drive To Speed Up Load Times

MTV's report on the Sony event reveals that PS3's Genji: Day of the Blade will use the PS3's internal hard drive to help with load times. Selecting an option to "install" some components from the Blu-ray disk to the hard drive will decrease load times from 15 seconds to 4 seconds. For more information from the MTV report, hit the link below.

[CyberSentinel]

I wonder how fast 60gig HDs will fill up with each 50gig game pre-installed for optimum play.

[EnforcerOfTheTruth]

WOW now that's fast. Thanks Sony :-)

[TheMART]

They need to use it because the BR loading times are terrible. But still it would be nice to see how developers work their way out of the restrictions of the system. Still it first has to load from BR to HDD...

[Retard]

Read the forums? Developer Blogs? Anything other then Xbox forums?

They're actually surprized that BD can load fast aside from the fact its reading capability is suppose to be slow.

Show me any credible factsheet that says BDR is slow, please... Other then that I'll stick with the 15 seconds.

[FordGTGuy]

all that space on the BR discs but it doesn't mean anything until its on the screen. How do they say it? "where the rubber meets the road"

[EnforcerOfTheTruth]

15 seconds doesn't sound that terrible to me ;-)

[THE TRUTH]

After you make such foolish statements you NEED to explain yourself! Don't just go off and say what you think, The Mart! Its has been explained more than once about the comparision of DVD X12 and Blu Ray X2, do you reseach before you go sticking your foot in your mouth!

Besides your pride and joy 360 isn't capable of because of the "so called" choice MS have you and failed to make their overpriced HD standard! At least Sony have gamers the choice of which SATA 2.5" HD they want!

Seriously you guys moan and cry about everything, this is good news and STILL you talk like immature gamers! You made your choice so why don't you just enjoy it and let sleeping dog lye.

I support sonys choice to make HDD standard in all models and it lools likes gamers will enjoy this feature!

[EnforcerOfTheTruth]

You are right on the spot and I can only add that MS gives hardly any choice. Can people choose between DVD and HD-DVD? Nope. I already have a dvd drive in my PS2, PC and standalone player. If it continues that way I can become soon a dvd drive supplier LOL
Can people chose if the want play online? Nope.

[zonetrooper5]

You can be so wrong sometimes. On the Xbox 360 you can choose to go online or not, you can choose between a Sliver or Gold account. I for one still use DVD's, like many other people. Blu-Ray and HD-DVD still mean nothing to me even though i support HD-DVD. PC games still use CD's but most of them are on DVD, they look better than consoles could ever wish they could produce. You and the truth can spread alot of false crap tbh, i think you guys need to find out certain facts before posting your fanboy comments on this site.

[InMyOpinion]

Ps3 owners will have to install their games. Resistance is not 1080p. No refunds for Sixaxis batteries gone sour. Fake factsheets. And on and on and on...

[Raist]

Didyou read the article ?

selecting an option to install

You know, an option.

You do know what is an option, don't you ?

[kmis87]

A 2x bluray drive is still faster than a 12x dvd drives minimum read speed (the 12x dvd drive is variable speed, while the bluray is constant speed). If you're not having any trouble with dvd load times, don't expect much trouble with bluray load times, especially since caching will also be available as an option for ALL ps3 owners. Stop blowing things out of proportion.

[PS3 Ultimate]

Because 1. Sony will allow us to upgrade our Hard Drives. I will buy a 250GB Hard Drive for my PS3. #2 Using the Hard Drive for game enhancements such as load times. It is a great idea. It replaces the Blu Ray's loading times. One more thing, since the PLAYSTATION 3 can have a Hard Drive upgrade, and is a gaming console. Why not call it, the first ever PCGC! (Personal Computer Gaming Console)!

[PS3alltheway]

''thank you sony you the king''hooray

[THELANDSOFSAND]

Pretty
Crappy
Game
Console?

sounds like the Ps3 to me!

[shotty]

The xbox 360 does that, Final Fantasy has to install.

[EnforcerOfTheTruth]

You should better learn to read first before accusing somebody of being wrong or a fanboy. I said MS gives people no choice if they WANT to play online. If you want play games online you got no choice, MS forces you to pay, simple as that.
What has using dvds to do with the things I said? Nothing, I use dvds too, hell I even use cds. Do you think because I use cds I would be happy if my PS2 had only a cd drive? Surely not and I don't want a next gen console that uses last gen drive and I'm surely not alone. So MS is again giving people no choice, they are forcing people to use a dvd drive. This are the simple facts and I'm stating the simple truth that you can't deny. I think you need to find out certain facts before posting your fanboy comments on this site. Truth was enforced.

[THAMMER1]

All I have to say is wow. IS this news.

[ChickeyCantor]

okai....so what?....but sony should have seen this problem before they created the BR....
they should have made the BR fast... i mean if a game is 50gb...its abvious there gonna be long loading times...

but installing games is a nice thing

[BIadestarX]

No need to thank sony on this... Developers being using this method on PC to cheat loading time. This is not usually a good sign, since it will be using space that otherwise could be use for other things. Lets how this is an option considering the fact that PS3 games are 20GB+ I can see this being a problem if you own many games. Lets how that the blue ray loading time is fast enough so this does not become the standard for every game.

[DJ]

Especially considering how long the load times are on Some 360 titles. Having the option to install 4GB of the game in order to shorten load times to 4 seconds is extremely nice of them. I'm not going to buy Genji, but I'm sure the people getting it will be happy with that option.

[FKN Unbelievable]

But having a 50gig Fuking CD was supposed to be the Future right?

[Marty8370]

PS3 BR drive is as fast if not faster than X360 DVD drive.As once games exceed 4.7Gb in size and start comin on DL DVD disc's,X360 only read's them at x8 speed(not x12,that's only for SL DVD).Also PS3 having a hard drive as standard will make PS3 faster still.

[icdedppl]

i really wish we could edit our posts...

also confirmed is the game Mobile Suit Gundam can also use the HDD for caching of game files.

[GamerX2]

But why do they feel the need to use up hdd space and cut it to 4 seconds????? well I bet they know why and we will just find out later. I Bet there's more to this story too...

[icdedppl]

it also sounds like the following games will use this as well:
ridge racer 7
virtua fighter 5
virtua tennis 3

[THELANDSOFSAND]

hmmm, so its going to be common practise to install parts of games onto the PS3 to get around the blu-ray's loading times?

I though blu-ray was the ultimate storage format? that lasted long! 50gb discs that read so slow they have to be copied to the hard drive? sounds next gen to me.

[DJ]

15-second load times on Genji sounds identical to the average load times of Xbox 360 games. I know you want to believe that the PS3 wasn't built for games (Blu-ray, Cell, etc), but those accusations have already gone down the toilet.

Installation is not required, and it's a great benefit for anyone who chooses to drop their load times down to 4 seconds. I'm investing in a 100~120GB hard drive for the PS3 probably, and even then there's no way I'd be using this kind of option for every single game that offers it. I'd probably just do it for the games that have REALLY bad load times.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

and what about people that aren't like you, buy the $499 version, don't want to crack it open and swap hard drives and end up with a hard drive thats full from other content?
they are stuck with the blu-ray's slow read speeds.
seems like sony are making a 2 tier system for gamers based on their HD space. either upgrade or suffer the slow-ray!

[Genki]

If by people unlike him you mean the casual gamer, then it may not be as huge an issue to them as you may think.

Thinking in terms of a casual gamer, they probably won't get their HDD filled up with all sorts of content, and if they do, they probably would have no qualms about getting rid of some of the things they don't use anymore, being a casual gamer of course. I think it's also fair to say that even a hardcore gamer that would rather not upgrade would also just delete those installation files of older games, albeit backing up the saves.

Even beyond that, if a casual gamer filled up their HDD and STILL didn't delete anything for whatever reason, they may not mind a 10-15 second load times, because that might just be ample time for them to grab a bag of chips and/or a drink, no big deal. Much in the same manner as how the casual photographer doesn't pay much attention to memory card speeds and start-up times.

Now, before anyone jumps to any conclusions, I'm fully aware that I can't and don't speak for each and every casual/hardcore gamer out there, just be advised that this is my own SUBJECTIVE deduction on the matter, and I'm not claiming any of this as the way it should be or will be, just offering a different perspective.

[Antan]

but i thought the PS3 was used just for "scientific calculations" ?????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????? ????????????

[nstott]

The interesting part of the story is not the speed, but the fact that the core of the game only takes 4 gigabytes. I just don't see how Phil Harrison sleeps at night.

[4me2]

Not all games will be huge especially at launch. We just have to wait for a while and see which company was right.
I like BD as storage and hd video player and I HAVE NO PROBLEM PAYING for it.
At least Sony put some new technology into PS3 besides better CPU and GPU. I upgrade my PC regularly, new CPU,GPU, MB but somehow nobody calls my PC next gen.

[NextGen24Gamer]

The only game for the 360 that gets to 4 to 10 seconds is Oblivion. But if you have a hard drive for the 360 and clear the cache before you play....its under 4 seconds consistantly. And with that said...its still too long for next gen. Most 360 games are seamless....with at most 2 second load times....but, I have noticed next gen 360 games that have been released over the last few months have had no load times.....Developers are obviously getting better with the 360 and cutting load times to zero. But, to have to load games to the hard drive. That would help with the load times but 4 seconds is still on the long side.....And how long would it take to install the game off of the slow blu ray drive to the hard disc? And it does seem like it would fill up your hard drive super duper fast....So, let the truth be told....Sony added in the hard drive because they have to...if they didn't....people would really complain about 14 plus second load times...but instead they can wait through 2 minute install times. It just seems complicated and a hassle for casual gamers who don't troll forums like this and aren't as well informed....The Walmart generation. And then you can buy a new hard drive and install it yourself by opening up your ps3? ha ha ha...How many casual gamers will know how to do that? And then do you have to format it and what about all your games on the previous hard drive? Do you have to open up your ps3 every time you want to play a game on a different hard drive? Too much....Thats why most computer stores make a lot of money on hard drive installs and data transferring....there are many many people who are clue less to how to do that kind of stuff.

Thats something MS worked out beautifully...Load times for most games are non existant...and the worst game so far is oblivion and its from 4 seconds if you use the simple hold the a button clear the cache feature and 10 seconds if you don't. MS has a hard drive that any 5 year old can snap off and snap on....The ease of use...the fast load times....the next gen graphics, GAMES, and experiences....WOW...Thanks Microsoft.

[Antan]

failing to mention the bad load times in Splinter Cell Double Agent for example? or the exessive loading in PGR3?

"Thats something MS worked out beautifully...Load times for most games are non existant"

Don`t make me laugh! AGAIN.

"And then do you have to format it and what about all your games on the previous hard drive? Do you have to open up your ps3 every time you want to play a game on a different hard drive? Too much...." HHMM, i think you will get more on a 60gig hd than a 20 (13 free) HD. Which means of course peeps will have to buy another 2 or 3 360 drives to keep up with the sony 60gig Drive. Tell me again how much this would cost to "keep up" with Sony? WHOW Thanks Sony.

You sure ur not a MS fanboy???? Your certainly doing a good job to convince me otherwise !!

[DJ]

But straight out lying about load times for Xbox 360 games when so many other people have already experienced them is pretty damn stupid, Topgamer.

"Most 360 games are seamless....with at most 2 second load times....but, I have noticed next gen 360 games that have been released over the last few months have had no load times"

Come on, you act like we've never touched a 360 in our lives.

[Raist]

Lol, there's an HDD bay, just as the PS2 and x360

Just as hard as to shove a VHS in a vcr :/

[ChickeyCantor]

lets face it
sony succeeded in making a disc with allot of space on it but failed @ the speed. its Ps2 all over again

[PS3alltheway]

can samone explain me why does Full Auto 2 for PS3 load so fast than 360.
load like 3-4 sec dang......

http://www.gametrailers.com...

also watch those new awsome trailer
GT-hd look so realistic can't wait 4 GT-5
GT-HD is just a taste for GT-5

full auto 2 for ps3 is a lot more faster than the full auto for 360
the ps3 ver. has more feature

[Antan]

yes, but the 360 version was done ages and ages and ages and ages ago so this doesn`t count.

No need for 360 fanboys to comment further, ive done it for you.

[NextGen24Gamer]

ha ha ha ha...And I'm not attempting to convince blind son fanboys of anything. I'm just speaking the truth and then I sit back and watch the few of you rant,rave, and lie. I'm a gamer. I have all systems. If my honesty goes against the one system you choose to get. Thats your problem buddy. Get over it. Looooooong Looooad times and FULL hard drives with games being downloaded to the hard drive. Interestingly sad. What? I didn't create the ps3. Don't be mad at me. Focus your anger at Sony if you need to. The Truth will remain the same regardless.

DJ...Once again...Your mind seems to work slow when processing the truth..." if you have a hard drive for the 360 and clear the cache before you play....its under 4 seconds consistantly." WOW...Thanks Microsoft. Ingenious.

[Maddens Raiders]

This date is burned into my mind for ALL good reasons none other than I'll be firing up my very own PS3 Deluxe Model™, but it also sees me feeling a little melancholy since I won't be visiting
"NEWS - 4 - GAMERS.COM" that much anymore. I mean, I'll still come back every now and again to check on headline news and predictions, etc. But, I'll miss being in the forums checking all the cool and UPCOMING news and events........because I will be lost in a true G A M E R S H A Z E

It's just too bad that the 'ol 3.6.0. was "Early to the Dance, but Late to the Party." I wish they just made newer, better, bigger, fresher, more colourful, and intruiging games now, but it's evident that they don't because their B I G G E S T fans are always ALL over this site trying to convince everyone how great everything is when they know *B I G - P A P I* is coming back to take the block and swing his big bat around just to win CONSOLE WARS III -FLOL. They are always on this site flaming and NEVER playing "cool", next-gen XBOX2.0 games...!!!!

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World Consoles War II - Winner PS2
World Consoles War III - Winner PS3
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What I'm Playing Now:
Marvel vs. Capcom 2 (PS2)

Holla

[THE TRUTH]

I really don't understand how you can even say the things you say! I own a 360 and what you are trying to tell people are just bold faced lies! You haven't even played every game the 360 has to offer, so how the hell would you know every games load time? Further the HDD isn't standard so you can't make a generalized opinion of load times that covers all owners of a 360! You act like your the only one who has played the 360!

You have nothing to back up and of the ignorant and biased statements you made up! By far the worst post by any gamer who has been apart of this site for as long as you have! Get you FACTS STRAIGHT or at least post some kind of credible link to support your outrageous statements!

I have no idea why you STILL debate the fact that your not a huge fan of the 360 and are heavily against PS3, I guess you think your "fooling" someone! Might as well be a man and own up to who/what you are!

Don't reply to this post UNLESS you have a credible link to support ALL you ignorant claims!

[HyperBear]

seeing is how i cant reply to your comments on the other topic, ill just respond on here.

The Truth, Id just like to know, how you think i am at Dante's level. Have you seen me post 5 things in a row in 1 day complaining that PS3 sucks and xbox 360 is king of the world (like Dante did, just other way around). NO, I did not. Did you not even read the BS he posted yesterday?. I dont get how you would even consider that i am in the same boat as Dante and should be banned for helping this site out, and just for making a case that someone is annoying on this site and should be kicked out. Its not my fault that he acted this way, so why should we have to listen to his BS.

I am also a fan of PS3 and cant wait for it to come out, but if it doesnt bother you to have someone on this site just write complete BS articles all the time that says "PS3 OWNS XBOX 360, 360 FANS SUCK ASS", then that just tells me, that you are in favor of PS3 and that you dont like the 360 as much as you think you do.

I just dont get how you think I am at Dantes level. That is soo degrading, its not even funny. Again, I ask you, have you seen me post stuff like this: "XBOX 360 PWNS THE SH!T OUT OF PS3. PS3 CAN SUCK MY NUTS"?, and then do that 5 times in a row because i only have 2 bubbles left. I still find it hard to see your the only one besides the obvious hardcore sony fanboys that thought my PETITION, was as low as dantes level. And weve tried it the mods way, they havent done anything to take actions towards him, so I had to do something.

Again, I can see that you are more in favor of PS3, and thats fine with that, im actually trying to find ppl that are getting PS3's so I can beat them at RFOM, but the4 fact is. If you really do own a 360, and really are not a fanboy, then you wouldnt have told me off like that, and you would shown some respect for the fact that seeing is how the mods didnt do anything about it, I did.

Also, TopGamer has played every game on the 360, and is like the #1 most informed 360 person on this site, if youve got a problem with your "supposed" 360, then id ask him, i always ask him for 360 advice or stuff.

P.S. - If you read this and still are not mad at me, then could you send your username for PS3 Online, to add you to friends list. Thanks Man, and i hope you understand why i did what i did.

P.S.S. - TopGamer - wassup man, i heard you are selling the PS3 that you will get on Nov.17, i was wondering if I could buy it, depending on if you are still asking for 3 ggrand then ill wait, but i was just checkin, cause you say you live in Seattle, well i live just north, Van, B.C., so i was just wonderin if you would sell it to me, cause i wont be gettin one anywhere else. Thanks Man

[NextGen24Gamer]

You gave yourself 6 bubbles and any member of this site knows your histroy. You are the total opposite of what you Named Yourself. Anyone who looks up my name on xbox live can clearly see I have played EVERY SINGLE XBOX 360 game to date. I am a gamer. You gave me an xbox user name that you claimed was yours...and when I looked and compared the games that the name you gave me played...you only played a couple. A handful. Totally missing most of the AAA titles that recieved high 8's and 9's. Who knows or cares if you actually have a 360. But, I don't need anyone who truly owns a 360 and has played many of the more recent games. Dead Rising, Saints Row, ect....They know first hand that the load times are non existant or very very short...less than a couple seconds. The game with the longest load times is oblivion...But, if you CLEAR the cache before you play it....by holding the a button while the game loads initially. It drastically cuts the load times in Oblivion for the 360. But, you are a supporter of Donte1. i wouldn't be suprised if that was one of your screen names under a different IP address. Lab top, ect.... Your not slick, and you can fool the mods, but you can't fool the Gamers who have been on this site for a while now. Who on this site actually thinks you have anything good to say on any topic besides bashing xbox 360 and using the false fact that you own one as a badge of honor. And for you to attempt to tell anyone what to reply to is funny as heck. The Truth you are not. I could easily give myself 6 bubbles as you have given yourself. But I would much rather "gamers". Not fanboys...vote me to speak because they see i am honest and actually make sense. Unlike you. But, I think I'm authorized to speak on the 360 since I own every game out for it and 6 xbox 360's. I think i can speak about being a gamer since, I own every single system over the last 20 years and I have a ps3 guarenteed on launch from EB. Just because my opinion is I'm overly happy with my purchases in the 360..... Thats my right and my opinion. As a Gamer. Someone who invests over 15k a year in my hobby.

[THE TRUTH]

Wow what a reply, thanks for bringing the maturity level of this site down a notch!

Anyone who cares to look up my 360 gamertag can do so!

Sumtynnaztee

Other than that I could careless what you "think" about how I got 6 bubbles! Why don't you go the Hyperbear route and make a petion up about it? For someone who was caught using multipule accounts I think your in NO position to point ANY fingers!

Furthermore you have given NOTHING to support anything you claim about me or the 360 load times (you even ducked the fact that not all 360 owners even have a Hard drive) it seems to me you have let your immature emotions yet again get the best of you! Grow up topgamer your act has gotten old, your messhe has gone bad, and furthermore your intentions speak louder than your opinions (opinions which you disguise as facts)

[THE TRUTH]

Wow what a reply, thanks for bringing the maturity level of this site down a notch!

Anyone who cares to look up my 360 gamertag can do so!

Sumtynnaztee

Other than that I could careless what you "think" about how I got 6 bubbles! Why don't you go the Hyperbear route and make a petion up about it? For someone who was caught using multipule accounts I think your in NO position to point ANY fingers!

Furthermore you have given NOTHING to support anything you claim about me or the 360 load times (you even ducked the fact that not all 360 owners even have a Hard drive) it seems to me you have let your immature emotions yet again get the best of you! Grow up topgamer your act has gotten old, your messhe has gone bad, and furthermore your intentions speak louder than your opinions (opinions which you disguise as facts)

[HyperBear]

So much for respecting me eh. "Why dont you go the HyperBear route and make a Petition". Who the hell do you think you are. You keep saying you respect me, you have a 360, and your not a fanboy. HAHAHA. after reading that, I laugh. Yea, ok, I cant believe i had some respect for you, but it seems as though you are on the same level as Dante, except with the complete article BS part. Yea, you keep saying im on Dantes level, when you cant even see it that you are right there. Your so stupid that your idea of a perfect gaming site is, having Fanboys flaming out on articles and posting soo much BS on your website and then you try to ignore but you cant because you want to post stuff, but you cant cause of Flaming Fanboys. Man Grow the hell up. If i ever see you ass on RFOM, ill make sure to get a LAARK, and shove it up your ass, and pull the trigger. You have no clue what a true gamer is, do ya?

[NextGen24Gamer]

You are now seeing The Truth for what he is. I been known how he is. But, as far a my ps3. I got it because I got connections at EB games. But, I'm keeping an eye out to see if any games interest me. If not. I will sell it on Ebay. but I can easily get another one. I got 6 360's at launch due to my connection. I'm sure I could get another ps3. We'll keep in touch about it. I'm still up in the air with whether I'm going to put it up on ebay or keep it. I'm leaning toward the ebay route. 3k sounds lovely right about now.

P.S. Well said in your last post. The Truth is what he is. I've known that for months. He used to post before every bashing of the 360 about how he owns one and give out his live screen name. I actually added the name to my friends list that he provided and saw that he has only played a couple games. Thats if its his live account and not a friends. Many Sony fanboys have at least one friend who has a 360. But regardless. He mistakes me for someone who believes him or even cares. ha ha ha...I Truly don't. Who in their right mind would actually support what dante1 does? The Truth. Hmmmmm...Things that make you go "hmmmmm". We can all see the connection. He'll never admit it though.

[THE TRUTH]

Of how you yet and spin things I have never and will never support an individual such as dante1, just because I don't agree with how hyperbear went about things doesn't mean he has my support! To sum it up either reread my post on that subject or tighten your gums! I'm not here to run the site and "kick and scream" trying to get someone banned! That's not in my hands and I won't support anyone who tries to do so, other than a Mod!

I do respect you hyperbear and I meant no disrespect by my comments to topgamer! It is what it is though, and even though I do respect you it is possible to be at a difference of opinion and do it respectfully. I do apologize if you feel I have disrespected you.

Topgamer despite the your recent post you have yet to out any facts out to support and of the claims you have made! Yet and sliver out of it all you want, but the fact is you have no legs to stand on and mouthed of about a subject your not knowlegdable about! Prove what you so proudly stated because anything less simply isn't accepctable, and is down right bold faced lies!

[HyperBear]

I fully accept your apology The Truth. And im sorry about the comments i made about u earlier. i have realized that not everyone or every fanboy will like what i say or do. this time around u didnt and i over reacted. but just because you dont like it doesnt mean everyone else wont. thats y im not removing it from the site. and TopGamer is my friend man, and he knows a lot more than me about 360. so c'mon guys, we all have 360's and we are all getting PS3's when they come out, so lets all try and get along

[Antan]

"I'm leaning toward the ebay route. 3k sounds lovely right about now"

Call yourself a gamer??

[NextGen24Gamer]

How can you say what I was saying is a bold face lie but yet you haven't even played very many 360 games? You dont want the truth to be known. There are many games out for the 360 that have less than 2 second load times. Some actually have seamless load times. There is only one that is too long in my opinion...but if you have a hard drive, which Most 360 owners do, its a non issue when you hold the a button and clear the cache before you load the game up. You say its a bold face lie as if you have actually played many games on the 360. We can all look at your 360 game history with the name you gave us. You haven't played 1/6th of the games I have played on xbox 360.