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Why the Xbox Needs to Stop Fighting in the Console Wars

Brian Kirk of wouldyoukindly.com breaks down why the Xbox needs to stop fighting in the Console Wars and how they can change their approach moving forward.

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FrightfulActions4391d ago

Nice site name.

Sidenote: While its common-practice for the majority of gamers to call Xbox One "Xbone" it comes accross as unprofessional if you're writing a serious article but use that gamer-given term, imo.

ElementX4391d ago

Xbone is a Sony fanboy term.

Blankolf4391d ago

Haven't you learnt already to call things by their name "Xbone" is short for "Xbox One", you can also go with "Xbox Done".

I love how you call these 7 year xbox veterans that most never owned a sony device (except perhaps their TV) and accompanied all of xbox ups and downs and are now on the PS4, sony fanboys, recent studies conducted by myself have pointed out that people who use "sony fanboy" term are the ones fanboying their competition, or people who are loathing SONY success, which reasons to me are unknown since right now they are standing for gamers and this is.. a gamer website.

Enemy4391d ago (Edited 4391d ago )

Microsoft gave it to themselves, actually. They gave themselves Xbox Done as well.

As far as pretty much everyone is concerned, Xbox One isn't in the fight any longer. It's just there as background noise. Hell, not even Dean Hall (DayZ dude) acknowledges the existence of it.

Godhimself_In_3d4391d ago

wow all this time i thought is was short for xbox one like xb/one

jmc88884391d ago

Nope it's a term that is easy to write. It does confer a slight negative connotation, but if people really wanted to do that they'd call it the xbdone.

Being anti-Xbox One and being pro PS4 doesn't make you a fanboy. People are being critical of MS, because gasp, they have the mother of all reasons to be critical, and multiple reasons at that.

Sony can eat my crap as a corporation, and the PS4 only has 1.8 TFLops of power. Which compared to my GTX 670 is considerably weaker. But for a console it's decent. Thus as a console AND PC gamer, it's #1. But MS's screw ups have taken me out of the running for buying their console. I was ready to fork over money to buy a console clearly inferior to my GTX 670, hell I even bought a far technically inferior WIi U.

But it wasn't the lack of power that kept be from the Xbone, it was MS's fascist moron management.

The simple fact is, the xbone is weaker, spies, needless drm, and is overall a POS they are rushing to market.

I doubt it comes out on time and wouldn't surprise me if they rush it out the door in order to reward their fanboy's with broken consoles.

That's the sad thing, is that those in the face of all the info the clearly shows without a shadow of a doubt Xbone's clear and MAJOR deal breaking problems, those that bend over for MS have a high likelihood of getting shafted by MS with the console itself.

There is a high likelihood you might get a borked console. Or you buy it (and maybe not through amazon but a place that makes you pay for it now) thinking it will be basically your xmas, only to see it pushed back into 2014.

I just don't get it.

People who are buying the Xbone are paying $100 more for a console the PS4 beats by 50-125 percent in raw power, the xbone will spy on you, has ridiculous drm, check ins, and has a strong chance to be delayed and/or have hardware problems.

Then throughout the life of the unit they have to be worried that at any time they or MS could lose the internet and their console becomes a brick. That it would be difficult to take one on vacation or move and when they shut down the service the xbone will become a brick forever, whereas with a PS4 people will still be able to use them long after that.

Even the Atari 2600 and the NES don't have an expiration date.

The Xbox One sure does, it's 24 hours after Microsoft shuts off its servers.

V0LT4391d ago (Edited 4391d ago )

How is it a Sony term? Here is the proof

http://i.imgur.com/fYBz6sA....

longcat4390d ago

the console wars end when sony says it they end

SilentGuard4390d ago

XBone is a legit name for a console that boned millions of Xbox fans like myself. MS truely let us down.

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FrightfulActions4390d ago

@ElementX

Actually from the looks of things, if you've been following the news recently and reading the comments everywhere, the majority of people who are most disappointed in the Xbox One are, infact, Xbox 360 fans.

Sony fanboys wouldn't care much because they prefered the other console from the start, thats nothing new. Fanboys always favor their selected console of choice, its kinda what defines them as fanboys.

The thing most damaging to the Xbox One is the fact that so many people who are upset about it are actually FANS of Xbox who feel like they're being shafted. It isn't just a Sony fanboy thing, really. When even the diehard and dedicated longtime Xbox fans are pissed off at your console, you know you majorly fucked up somewhere. In Microsoft's case 'somewhere' just happens to be bloody 'everywhere'.

As someone who never owned a Xbox I'm able to sit back and watch the madness unfold with emotional detachment. I'm not vested in it personally but still find it shocking. I remember back in the day when all this DRM and online crap were rumors. Everyone, myself included, was like "no way they'd do that, that's insane, it'd be suicide. Not even Microsoft is that evil, come on now, be real."

Then they totally do it. To a fan I can only imagine how bad that feels to see your favorite console brand that you've been loyal to and supported for so many years just turn around and say "f-you". The levels for which they've gone to make their fans feel alienated is almost comical in the sense of how unreal it all is.

If you actually sit and made a list of all the things they've done with restrictions and so-forth you'd think "oh come on, that can't all be true. Its just fanboys trying to trash it and making up the most ridiculous shit they can."

Except none of it is made up, and they're really doing all that crazy BS. It's bonkers, absolutely bonkers.

@Enemy
Do you mean that literally or figuratively? Because I've never heard it be called anything other than Xbox One officially. Everyone else calls it either Xbone or Xdone, but not by Microsoft themselves.

I've always assumed Xbone and Xdone were insults since they sound like mockery titles. Do they deserve these nicknames? They deserve a lot worst, though personally it just seems a bit childish to me. I still don't think they're anything more than gamer-made designations created to reflect their general distaste for the product.

Or are these real license names? It seems like that would be a really dumb thing to do but at this point nothing would surprise me from microsoft.

SilentGuard4390d ago

Finally, someone that understands. I've been an Xbox fan for 12 years, never having owned a Playstation. MS obsession with Kinect and everything besides gaming has been a let down. They used gamers to get the Xbox brand where it is and then decide we're not important. This console is a piss poor design with even worse policies attached. I would be a fool to not buy the cheaper, more powerfull console that has no headache causing restrictions from a company that didn't stab me in the back.

wastedcells4391d ago

If Xbox just said &$@! The console war and did its own thing (TV, kinect, casual) with only some hardcore games..... Like Nintendo, then Things would get weird. Wait they are weird right now. Has Sony already won this gen?

NihonjinChick4391d ago (Edited 4391d ago )

I don't think they should drop out of the console race. They just need to go back to the drawing board with some of their policies. This industry needs completion or else other companies will start getting lazy.

They also need to try to word thing better. Because that whole if you don't have internet, buy a 360 thing made them sound like A holes.

I agree with the article MS has a lot of work to do if they want to compete this gen.

Heartnet4390d ago

I wouldnt say they have alot to do... Ms are pretty confident and what they have created and time will tell if that will pay off..

Also people on these forums are such a minority of gamers in this day and age that MS will never be in trouble money wise.

When the console is out and about poeple will see for themselves whether it is to restrictive or whether they made a big deal over nothing.

Trouble with forums like these people just bitch and moan with the most opinionated articles for both sides of the arguements. relying on speculation for the msot part just leads to embarrassment later.

NihonjinChick4390d ago (Edited 4390d ago )

But a lot of it isn't just speculation. Most of the stuff people are complaining about is the stuff MS themselves have confirmed.

People are even complaining about this on Xbox.com. You know things are getting bad when your own fan base gets up in arms about your policies.

Heartnet4390d ago

I wouldn't assume that just MS fanbse uses Xbox.com lol

Foxgod4391d ago

It Must keep fighting, or a lot of people will be disappointed.
Theres plenty of people looking forward to the XB1.

Klonoa-dreamtraveler4391d ago

eff them id love to see them leave. leave a open spot for sega.

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Microsoft planning “major” Xbox layoffs next week

The cuts are expected to be announced next week.

Microsoft is also planning thousands of job cuts that will impact other parts of it businesses

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Obscure_Observer2h ago

MFs has been beating their chests over great quarterly results and big profits to shareholders while firing people by the thousands just like Sony.

I wonder if at the top of those rumored layoffs they´ll also cancel upcoming or unannounced games while shutting down more studios as well.

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pwnmaster30002h ago

Always got to throw shade at Sony smh.
Yes we get it,
MS good Sony bad
MS bad Sony is also bad lmao

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Obscure_Observer2h ago

F* them both!

Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares.

blacktiger1h ago

He was talking about both. Why you getting offended when he's using both names

pwnmaster300044m ago(Edited 43m ago)

@Blacktiger

Im not offended , that’s just his formula lol
He can’t help help himself, he needs to bring Sony down when the topic involves MS.
Whether is good news for MS or bad, it some how leads to Sony doing bad lmao.
It’s actually hilarious.

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Tacoboto2h ago

"just like Sony"

Gosh you're insufferable, not everything needs to be both-sides'd. Sony's had layoffs, but nothing like what Microsoft has been doing and is continuing to do.

CrimsonWing691h ago(Edited 1h ago)

I mean, no offense, but this is why you’re not some corporate business person running a major corporation. Big profits don’t mean jobs are safe. Do you understand why things like this happen:

Cutting jobs to maintain or increase profitability, especially in underperforming divisions like parts of Xbox like other gaming divisions.

Corporate restructuring and relocating resources for strategic stability in ever changing markets and consumer behaviors.

Investor expectations and optimizing operations to maintain investor confidence. Whatever boosts stock prices and improves future margins.

And there’s many other factors at play. It’s never as simple as business doing well, everyone’s safe. That’s just you not understanding at all how corporations work and have been working since the beginning. This isn’t something that’s specific to Xbox, you can bet your ass Sony and Nintendo do this and if it’s not clear by now, game development is not a stable job nor has it ever been for many. A lot of developers are contractors and guess what happens when a project is done?

Ganif33m ago

Nintendo said they have no plans for layoffs, and you can't seriously claim that the scale of Sony's layoffs most of which involved Bungie which is self managed as even close to the same scale as what Microsoft has done since they purchased Zenimax. And that significantly less layoffs would have happened if those publishers had stayed independent. Keep in mind that much of these layoffs have been due to redundancies specifically related to these buyouts.

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@Ganif

Nintendo:

https://gamerant.com/ninten...

Sony:

https://gamerant.com/playst...

https://techxplore.com/news...

I don’t think it’s realistic to treat Sony’s layoffs as somehow outside the norm for the industry right now. Even if Bungie is self-managed, Sony’s cuts went far beyond that like Naughty Dog, Insomniac, London Studio being shut down completely, and multiple teams across the globe took hits. These weren’t just minor adjustments.

Nintendo, I had to look up and you’re right. They seem to be an outlier, but rest assured at some point it happens. And even then there’s been layoffs, albeit a smaller amount and contractors.

Would fewer layoffs have happened if studios from acquisitions stayed independent? Maybe. But even independents have been hit hard and look at what’s happened with Embracer’s fallout, or smaller devs like Digic, Roll7, or Volition. This isn’t just a “Microsoft problem” or strictly tied to acquisitions; it’s a broader correction happening across the whole industry, and unfortunately, layoffs are a big part of that process right now.

-Foxtrot1h ago

It's like banging your head off a wall, he just can't help himself.

Microsoft can do no wrong, Sony sucks at everything and Nintendo is bigged up because it's less hassle than trying to defend Microsoft all the time

What's going to happen when Microsoft finally turn completely third party, then what?

anast1h ago

I enjoy Obscure. Obscure does good work.

crazyCoconuts1h ago

Did you know that the first n4g was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program.

Tacoboto22m ago

I wouldn't be surprised at this point if anast and osbcure were both alts for the Admin.

We know how Obscure especially drums up additional comments and clicks with his spam-worthy remarks that somehow never get moderated

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AMD CEO Shares Vision Behind Xbox Partnership and Next-Gen Chip Roadmap

AMD CEO Lisa Su talks about the Xbox AMD partnership, next-gen Ryzen + Radeon chips, and AI rendering tech coming to all Xbox devices.

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Obscure_Observer4d ago

AMD is really building hype around their unique partnership with Microsoft to help and build an advanced and seamless Xbox ecosystem across all Xbox consoles and devices.

I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimized chips" though? Seems ambitious.

Next year´s Xbox Showcase already looks promising and exciting. Here´s hoping they deliver.

InUrFoxHole4d ago

They had best show 3yrs in a row. Heading for another

VenomUK4d ago

Obscure_Observer said “I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimised chips" though? Seems ambitious.” To me, I interpret this to mean rather than having a couple of X/S products for launch and a handheld there is a longer term plan to release new products with higher specs at timed intervals. I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec.

Agent753d ago

But Microsoft forgot the games.

KwietStorm_BLM4d ago

It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever.

Ganif4d ago

Correct.

"Sony's PlayStation 6 reportedly will feature an AMD semi-custom APU with a Zen 5 CPU and UDNA GPU, capable of 4K 120FPS and 8K 60FPS gaming. The console will include X3D cache and advanced AI upscaling technology."

https://www.tweaktown.com/n...

Obscure_Observer3d ago

"It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever."

I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released.

Notellin3d ago

You should have just lead this comment with the fact that you have zero understanding of technology in the consoles and instead have a Toms Hardware online forum level of education.

Obscure_Observer1d 1h ago

"It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever"

I´d told you were on some bs

https://www.pcgamesn.com/wp...

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Agent753d ago

But Microsoft forgot the games

Obscure_Observer3d ago

@VenomUK

"I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec."

Very interesting theory. Still not sure how MS would actually make it work.

KwietStorm_BLM3d ago

"I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released."

How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is.

Obscure_Observer3d ago (Edited 2d ago )

"How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is."

Dude, what I know for certain is that a tech as old as X3D chips which is actually *older* than both PS5 and Xbox Series consoles, is hardly the reason behind this new partnership between AMD and MS to build new *custom silicon* for next generation of consoles.

And yes it´s a huge announcement since AMD is working closely with MS to co-develop custom SoC which will allow backwards compatibility across all MS´s next gen devices allowing seamless integration between devices and full backwards compatibility across all generations of Xbox consoles.

I also know is that this announcement don´t have anything to do with Playstation and their strategy with AMD for the PS6, so stop comparing the two pretending that you know what´s going on, because you clearly don´t.

If Sony is working on something remotely similar, that´s remain to be seen.

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Fishy Fingers4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Some odd, deliberate wording, no branding, not 'Xbox consoles, Xbox handhelds' specifically, feels and sounds like they're building towards hardware that anyone can be used or licensed to/by themselves and other manufacturers.

Multiplatform software and hardware 'Xbox/AMD APU'.

Obscure_Observer4d ago

I guess you missed Sarah Bond´s next generation Xbox announcement this week, were she clearly states:

"I´m thrilled to share that we´ve established a strategic multi-year partnership with AMD to co-engineer silicon across a portfolio of devices, including, *our* next generation *Xbox consoles*."

But hey, I don´t think you´re entirely wrong, maybe MS will build their own Xbox consoles while licencing other manufactures to build and sell their own Xbox branded consoles. Who knows

BeHunted4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I think you watched the wrong video. It's below the description, or you can watch it directly on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/kprpRvsOua...

HyperMoused4d ago

Shares vision....we provide chips for money, this deal will sell many chips, we will make lots of money...good vision

Christopher4d ago

The marketing behind this is so heavy that I worry about the actual outcome. Why are they just not showing us the product, why all this talking in market speak?

Lightning774d ago

Probably because the next xbox isn't ready to release yet?

The marketing and rumors seem to be heavy out of no where. The rumor was a 27 release but it maybe it could be 26 new console launch instead.

Who knows.

Eonjay4d ago

There PR is alrways super heavy handed. No one is acutally buying an Xbox as is.
Also it is very early to be talking so much about a next gen console.

Obscure_Observer3d ago

There´s a lot of people interested on Xbox Next and its ability to run games from major stores like Steam.

We know that the PS6 is just around the corner as well, but so far, no news on what it might improve over the PS5 or PS5 Pro.

However, Sony already made public that their priority and actual focus is the PS6. So its not "very early" to talk about next gen when the very console manufactures are talking about it.

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Activision Forces Adverts into Call of Duty Black Ops 6 and Warzone Loadouts

With the launch of Call of Duty Season 4, Activision quietly put adverts inside loadouts for Black Ops 6 and Warzone, sparking a backlash in the process.

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lukasmain23d ago

Putting Ads in a pay-to-play Premium title? Well done Microsoft. Well done /s This is really scummy.

jjb198123d ago

This game will never change because these sweatlords love buying up all the skins and bundles that become obsolete the following year. They're the ones perpetuating Activision's greed.

VenomUK22d ago

If Microsoft introduces adverts into its other games I hope it can do them without disrupting the immersion of the game world. So for example in the new Fable game it would look out of place if there was a billboard advertising Cadillacs.

A far better way to do it would be to have a wizard conjure a 'dream cloud' in front of your character and then in the cloud you can see the Cadillac car and see the text with price and availability and hear a booming sales voice promoting the car. That would work so well as it wouldn't be a billboard and completely, 100%, fit in with your character's adventuring in Albion. Doesn't that sound so much better?!

crazyCoconuts22d ago

@venom, or how about our of 100 farts in Albion, 1 of them has a Cadillac pop out

VenomUK22d ago

@crazyCoconuts That’s undeniably off-beat - but it could really work!

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