Let’s take a look at the announced specs and features for the two big next-gen consoles. PS4 vs. Xbox One.
I love how Sony has packed better hardware into a smaller package even the power supply is in their yet the xbox one is massive compared to the ps4 and it still has a power brick. Xbox controller is still in the past, why would they still use AA batterys is beyond me.
LOL it still uses batteries? The power brick should tell you how bad Microsoft is at making hardware also inferior GPU only 90% for games other 10% for the OS and 5 out 8 DDR3 ram for games vs 7 GDDR5 superior ram for games 100% superior GPU for for games also the under clocking for xbone cpu (OS also takes up CPU usage) which is most likely the case.
PS4: AMD Radeon GCN 1.x GPU (on APU) 18 Compute Units / 1152 GCN Cores 32 ROPS (Fillrate) 8 ACES * 8 Compute Queues = 64 Compute Queues Xbox One: AMD Radeon GCN 1.x GPU (on APU) 12 Compute Units / 768 GCN Cores 16 ROPS (Fillrate) 2 ACES * 2 Compute Queues = 4 Compute Queues The PS4 has 50% more raw shader performance, a 100% increase in fillrate and a 700% increase in compute (gpgpu) queue granularity. This isn’t negligible and just because they share the same system architecture doesn’t mean they’re equal. The PS4′s gpu holds a performance advantage of around 50% before you even take into account compute capabilities and the rest. [AMD Radeon (18 CU / 32 ROP / 1.8TF)] vs [AMD Radeon (12 CU / 16 ROPS / 1.2TF)]
It's interesting, the PS4 has an internal power supply yet still weighs about a pound less than XB1.
Look at Gamecube which is also Nintendo's 4th console extremely small and power full no power supply seems like Sony and Nintendo both have mastered hardware on there fourth consoles.
"It's interesting, the PS4 has an internal power supply yet still weighs about a pound less than XB1." The One has that smoke machine inside it though. You know, for "cloud computing".
The AA battery is insane! I mean it was bad enough in the 360, but to do it again!? So incredibly lame.
Not to mention that it takes up space on the controller. It makes it very uncomfortable to hold if you have long fingers.
@reverent, that's true for the 360 controller, but the x1 controller doesnt have the back battery compartment sticking/bumping out like the 360 controller. Its flat/flush with the controller, so its a improvement. But the regular batteries things is unexcusable, come on ms, they are just being cheap!
"Used Game Fee" should be changed to "Used Game Restrictions". if only to shut-up people complaining about it. Also; the XBO actually has an external power source?
Why spend money on hardware R&D (especially after RROD) when you can simply waste $400 million on the NFL. ...
Well, they would went with sony but their check would probably bounce....lol
You're corny kid, try again!
@Godmars "the XBO actually has an external power source?" Yes it does ~ http://m.neogaf.com/showthr...
it should also mention cloud computing as i have noticed alot of users using that "buzz" word and thinking the ps4 cannot do this as well
Lol the cloud. http://www.ps4gamers.co.uk/...
They can't. Sony can't even get gaikai off the ground in time for launch. Their cloud is not the same as MS Azure and not even close to the same size of servers.
we are yet to see the benefits, just thought it would be a good idea to add that as one of the features on the list. hopefully when they both launch and we have got hands on then we can decide which is better.
I think that after the inevitable success of the PS4 launch, Sony will have the financial means to grow their online services (such as 'cloud'), setting up hundreds of thousands of new servers, and starting the process of growing PSN into a LIVE/STEAM rival. Just remember: The majority of Xbox 360's fanbase is expected to sway in favor of Sony this console-cycle (thanks in no small part to MS's own bad decisions & alienating of it's core fans). If the vaste majority of gamers spend $399 on a PS4, and this continues while software sales increase for the platform - well, it seems reasonable to expect Sony to reinvest this massive influx in revenue back into making the product better (this includes the services it provides). Besides: Sony will 'have' to reinvest in it's online services - afterall; what are they going to do when a couple hundred million teenagers (worldwide) migrate from XBOX LIVE to PSN later this holiday season to play Call of Duty: Ghosts & Battlefield 4 multiplayer non-stop?
I also thought that the Xbox one games won't be able to use all the cores or at least not be able to use all 8 cores on its CPU compared to that of the PS4...
Its the same cpu, that would be up to the devlopers and how good the operating system is on how well it can utilize those 8 cores. Don't forget though they are jaguar cores which suck :( Why they went with power saving cores over powerful cores the world will never know. I fthey used an fx 8350 and utilized all 8 core it would be better than intels i5 and about the same as the i7. http://images.dailytech.com...
Its all up to the devs. Sorry to break it to you guys but the games on both consoles will be close for now, but if MS cloud stuff comes into play and it does what they are saying, xbox-one will easily surpass it and the games will be much better in the years to come. if they can offload certain things in the cloud then that leaves more processing power for the xbox-one.
And you're guessing as much as they are. If not more. Honestly, all this cloud talk might mean something if an example existed, but there isn't one. Not so much as a staged speculative demo. And this is MS, who were showing off Kinect two years before it was released.
Cloud computing isn't going to do what you think it is. Even with an 8mbps connection, which is faster than the average connection in the biggest gaming market, the cloud can deliver 1/20000 of the data that the PS4's internal memory can process. The cloud will not be a factor this generation. Not for the type of computing MS is implying anyway.
Why would MS still use a power brick? They couldn't build it into the system as large as it is and yet the smaller PS4 has the power supply built in? So not only do you have to place the Kinect somewhere, but the power brick as well. Then the hard drive can't be swapped so when you run out of space you have to attach an external hard drive. A giant box with three seperate things attached to it. Way to go on your design MS.
Wow how is it that everyday I find out something new about Xbox one that sucks.... AA batteries lmfao it's 2013 wtf.
The HDD is another thing: MS made the excuse that they couldn't allow for swap outs because of the game DVR function. But Sony has that too yet can swap them. First Xbox key parts were leased rather than bought meaning production costs remained the same throughout its run and no cheaper slim model could be made. Launch 360s had heating problems - RRoD - and damaged disc because of cutrate DVD drives. Most of those issues were solved with a slim unit, but to compensate for not having an internal HD-DVD or BR, MS removed a massive chunk of security code and updated all consoles reportedly bricking some. Now the XBO hasn't even been released and there are already rumors surrounding hardware performance. So that's two blind spots MS seems to have: inability to anticipate consumer reaction, and relying more on software and patching rather than hardware.
wasnt there a rumour a while back that the clock speed of the ps4 increased from 1.6 to 2GHZ?
Umm this sheet says PS4 cannot do cloud computing & it can.. Devs just have to make a game thats always connected to play http://www.develop-online.n...
Forgot to add the esram on the xbox and ir sensor in the controller
esram ram just means that its got higher bandwidth (still lower than ps4's) to the 32mb esram but not to the 8gb ddr3 ram, whereas the ps4 has 176gb of bandwidth to the whole 8 gig pool, so esram ram is not better or a advantage in any way to the ps4. The ps4 is a superior architecture period!
It's definitely worth noting, the esram bandwidth is much higher than ddr5 to help bridge at least some of the gap between the ram difference. we still need to know more about the xb1's cpu. we should not haphazardly choose what information to include and what to not include in a detailed spec sheet designed for comparison.
You mean DDR3 right? and its ~102gb of bandwidth between the 32mb esram and the gpu for the x1, whereas the ps4 has 176gb of bandwidth between the 8gb of gddr5 ram and the gpu (basically the whole system). And we know about as much about the ps4's cpu as we do about x1's. And the rumors are sony might up it to 2ghz, whereas x1 would still be at 1.6ghz. Also rumors are, that because of the esram, ms is having yield problems and might downclock the gpu. Anyway you cut it, the ps4 is a better architecture and more powerful system. Also the ps4 could just as easily do the cloud computing (AI and physics), the game would just have to be coded for it. And btw, they have the same cpu.
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