20 games to be shown on stage at Microsoft's conference

Keighly says he just spoke to Phil spencer who says 20 games will be shown.

[jc48573]

5 games on top of what they announced last time. -__- I have a feeling they're going to talk a little bit about TV even though they said they won't

[dedicatedtogamers]

How many multiplats? How many timed exclusives? How many Kinect motion games? I guess we'll find out.

Edit @ below

Let me get this straight: we were told to "wait until the reveal", and after that we were told to "wait until E3". Now we're being preemptively told to wait until TGS (MS at TGS? Yeah right) and Gamescom?

[FordGTGuy]

They have 15 1st party exclusives but we know some are being saved for TGS and Gamescom, We'll probably only see games that are exclusive or have timed or exclusive content.

[wastedcells]

Ya that is the problem. How many are actually exclusive hard core games. We find out tomorrow.....can't wait.

[whoyouwit04]

You Sony fans need to give it a rest, I mean seriously what is your beef with Microsoft.

What the h8ll? I just notice I have 3 more bubbles I guest who ever is over the site is giving everyone extra bubbles because they know people will have a lot to say come tomorrow.

[mmccarthy4]

They will show more exclusives at e3 than those two events they are just saving some for gamescom

[NatureOfLogic]

MS can't be taken serious at this point. whoyouwit04, so you really think that It's only "Sony fans" doubting/rejecting MS? Some people really do lack any amount of logical thinking.

[majiebeast]

If they dont say exclusive in the conference its coming to PS4 you can bet on that.

[dedicatedtogamers]

Just got a new leak from GAF's most reliable insider:

(translation)
- Microsoft is actively buying up exclusive stage-time with 3rd parties to give the appearance of exclusivity. Tomorrow, unless you explicitly hear the phrase "only coming to Xbox One" you can safely assume it's multiplat
- no actual plan for rental support. MS hopes this will quiet down and be forgotten
- the reported "cloud power" is meant to be a parole officer, not a power-booster for Xbox One
- MS came up with the DRM ideas and presented them to EA and Ubisoft, not the other way around. Activision/Blizzard isn't quite so keen on it
- The terms-of-service for Xbox One's DRM is even worse than people think. MS is trying to keep it under wraps.
- Mirror's Edge 2, Prince of Persia reboot, and Dead Rising 3 to be shown @ Microsoft conference.
- World of Tanks coming to Xbox One
- Live Gold subscription required for online, even for f2p online games
- no online paywall (online gaming?) for PS4

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

[grailly]

prince of persia reboot, what? at this point those can't be reboots anymore, we'll just have to assume every prince of persia game will be with new characters and a new world ( a la final fantasy before 10-2)

[Mr_Nuts]

No offence but Microsoft promises a lot of things and they never deliver. There will be 20 games but most of them will be Kinect only titles, downloadable games, timed exclusives and multiplatform games.

[NatureOfLogic]

MS also promised that they were listening to their fans concerns over their policies, which turned out to be a complete lie, or maybe they did and just didn't care. I'm surprised at how anyone can believe anything that MS says at this point.

[Mr_Nuts]

*** I'm surprised at how anyone can believe anything that MS says at this point. ***

Yeah exactly, that's my point. Seems some people just don't get that

[AngryEnglish]

Wait.... I'm not sticking up for MS here but out of the supposedly 48 games for the PS4... 39 are multi plats.... So I don't see how people can kick one system and not the other, you will probs see more and more multiplats this gen to be honest

[Tody_ZA]

@AngryEnglish
The reason people are more trusting of that is because of the console was announced in February, and already has 8 exclusives.

It was also announced that all of Sony's devs are currently working on PS4 titles, and both Naughty Dog and SCE Santa Monica have hinted at revealing their PS4 titles at E3.

So that would put it up to 10, and E3 isn't even here yet.

Whereas in Microsoft's case, aside from Remedy Entertainment's new title, we've barely seen peeps of their exclusives, other than the spoken word promise of there being X amount of exclusives, which many would doubt given the Xbox 360's last few years of history. By doubt I mean, how many are Kinect etc.

Not taking sides here, not trying to stir up anything, just responding to your comment in the hope of answering your confusion.

[Themba76]

Im sorry i got to do this..... TV SPORTS TV SPORTS TV TV TV SPORTS!!!!!!!.

[NYC_Gamer]

They better show quality exclusives

[DeFFeR]

My guess:

New Halo(s): Halo Wars 2, Halo 5, Halo 2 Anniversary

New Forza: Already seen.

Something from Rare: Killer Instinct, Viva Pinata and/or Perfect Dark.

The RYSE game from the past few E3's pushed back to next-gen?

Crackdown 3

Quantum Break (already announced - from the Alan Wake people.)

Probably another Ninety Nine Nights game.

After that, likely Arcade, Singing, Dancing and/or Kinect games for the 'non-core' gamers.

Hoping for a surprise, but I'm not anticipating being blown away, burn me once...

[Ausbo]

Black tusk studios and lionhead's two teams are also working on "core" games. Plus respawns exclusive.

[Foxgod]

People also keep forgetting playground, i hope the project gotham rumors are true.

[grailly]

at this point, unfortunately for them, announcing a great exclusive would just get me sad because I'm already pretty much decided on a PS4. I still may get an X1 down the road, but not at launch

[first1NFANTRY]

Still not buying the console as long as it is anti consumer. I like to think of myself as a disciplined gamer and no amounts of games will sway me to give up my rights. The negatives far outweigh the positives with the Xbone.

[Conzul]

Indeed, 48 is still > 20

[FordGTGuy]

You do realize that 48 number includes a ton of third party non-exclusives and Vita/PS3 games right?

Microsoft will most likely have the same amount on display for Xbox One/Xbox 360/Windows.

[Conzul]

@FordGTGuy

If you believe for a second that Microsoft won't use the same counting "tricks" as Sony then you're delusional. M$'s 20 games include multiplats, just as Sony's do.

[Panthers]

I dont care if the Xbox had 100 exclusives at launch, I will refuse to buy it. The whole idea behind what this console represents is anti-consumer. It is purely to benefit MS/Developers. If we support this then gaming is dead to me. I will stick with my older games.

[True_Samurai]

Only 8 were actual exclusives the rest were multiplats and indies that are coming to x1 and PC :-p

[FordGTGuy]

When did I say it wouldn't include multiplatforms?

I'm not the one comparing the number of games shown at a conference to the total number of games shown at a entire expo.

Also there is going to be a world premiere before and after the event that aren't included in the 20.

So in reality we are going to see 22.

@mmccarthy4

20 is the number of games Microsoft will show in their conference, 48 is the number Sony will show through the entire expo which include games like Madden, Fifa, Assassin's Creed and more multiplatforms neither are launch game numbers.

[mmccarthy4]

48 is the number of games being launched with ps4 and 20 is the number of games ms will show at e3. That's a significant difference. However the numerical value of 48 is definitely greater than 20

[RiPPn]

And let's not forget, Microsoft didn't say they will be ready at launch, but rather within a year of the Xbone release. Should be interesting to see the numbers of actual launch titles for both systems.

[Foxgod]

Yeah, i doubt all 15 exclusives will be shown this year, some might be shown at next years e3, considering that both coming xmas, and next years xmas will both be in the first year of the XB|One.

[1nsomniac]

Amen brother!

The strong shall stand tall, the weak shall fall!

[TheSurg]

Sony will do exactly the same thing no matter what you guys think. It's the publishers that don't like trade ins etc. If one game can't be traded on XO you won't be able to trade it on ps4 as well. Sony said it's up to publishers to allow or disallow trading, and that's exactly what will happen.

[baodeus]

@first1nfantry

"no amounts of games will sway me to give up my rights"

1. what right are you referring to?
2. Do you ever read the legal copyright on movies,games, music, software, etc?

[first1NFANTRY]

I'm referring to not:

1. Not owning the rights to the games I buy with MY money
2. Mandatory installs
3. Friends not being able to borrow my games and vice versa
4. Kinnect being mandatory for the console to function
...............etc etc the list goes on.

Now why don't you tell us all why you would even consider buying such a restricted piece of hardware

[baodeus]

NOT OWNING THE RIGHTS TO GAMES I BUY WITH my money?
- So what kind of rights or things that you think that you can do when you buy a game with your money?
- Do you ever read the legal copyright that come with every games, movie, music, etc...? What does it say on these? DO YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO COPY, SELL, OR REDISTRIBUTE games/movie/music WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION from publisher|IP owner?
- Does Sony have copyright written all over their contents (music, games, movies)? If they all do, then why you think that you have the right to hack, copy, sell or redistribute them just because you pay $60 for a game, or even up to $2000 for an adobe master suite software (no one ever complain about this)? Just because they haven't really start breaking down on this copyright infringement (because it is happening on a global scale and it is really hard to put them under control), doesn't mean what you are doing is legally or it is your rights.
- What happen when Sony remove features they advertised from PS3 after being hacked? What did the sony fanatic say about the owner ship of software/services on ps3? Did n4g gamers say people have the right to those software or services? Is game consider a software or hardware?
- Did any of them purposely hide copyright from you in anyways? In other word, do you even read them?
- Have you ever made game or some IP and your aren't making money because people just pirate it or get it used from retailers and you get nothing? Should you break down on this hacker or put some restriction on retailers if this happening to you?

MANDATORY INSTALL
- PC has mandatory install with authorizing code (you can play it without the disc after) for ages so why it is a problem now?
- Many Ps3 games also have mandatory install requirement, but everyone on n4g were praising it like it helps boost performance for example. How come mandatory install wasn't an issue in this case?
- Now MS does it (so you can access your content anywhere and you can play without the disc) but that is unacceptable? I'm quite confuse here, so what is your reason?

3. Didn't you read about letting family or friend borrow games policy on xlive site? What does it says? Can any of your family member or friend play the game using their accounts?
4. Again, didn't you read about kinnect connection on xlive? what does it says? Can you pause it, can you turn it off, etc..?

i think you should go read on some stuff first before making another list, because i don't think you have a good grasp of what rights you have or the validity of the information that you have.

I guess a lot of people on here grow up during the booming of illegal download of games, music and movie on torrent (originally was made to share between friends in college), napster, and romnation (just an example). Do these illegal behavior become so common that somehow it is viewed as consumer RIGHTs currently? What stems these issues?

The true issue is the price (will it be cheaper for next gen game or not?). Steam have all that DRM craps as well but people like it why, because of cheap and massive sales on games. What developer/publisher should do is reduce the price (though it could be challenging when inflation is running out of control globally). Regardless, entertainment and conveniences aren't necessity and can be expansive. If you can't afford something, maybe you should rethink your priority.

[r21]

I suppose thats those 15 exclusives and 5 multiplatform games, one which obviously CoD Ghosts(again). Of those 15 exclusives, they better not had include that Fantasia Kinect and LocoCycle game.

[FordGTGuy]

15 Exclusives are only 1st Party games and only games on Xbox One. In other words that number doesn't include third party exclusives or Xbox 360 exclusives.

[r21]

Link please?
also @aviator189

El edito: Nevermind, aviator posted a link. Im a bit relieved now.

[HammadTheBeast]

Yes it does

[SonyAddict]

Since when did MS make 360 exclusives!

[dcbronco]

r21 I assume you don't want to see any puppet or book games from Sony either. Or were you actually trying to appear to be a hypocrite?

[aviator189]

fantasia and lococycle have been confirmed to not be a part of the 15 exclusives lineup for the x1.

@r21

here u go -> http://www.oxm.co.uk/55486/...

edit: I don't understand, why am I receiving disagrees for stating a fact? :/

[cyguration]

Where?

[aviator189]

if you read spencer's statement, he states that the 15 exclusives are only on the xbox one.

lococycle and fantasia will be available on the xbox 360 as well, so they're automatically excluded from that list.

[r21]

Alright. Good to know. Thanks for the link.

Dont mind the disagrees dude. Their just part of what makes n4g, well n4g.

[Mr_Nuts]

Yeah but you know what he's like, if he actually said the words "These games aren't part of the 15 exclusives" then fair enough but they always spin things, you know something they've been doing since the Xbox One was revealed.

[kennyg3739]

@aviator, it just the Sony fanboys if Microsoft is in the sentence they'll disagree no matter what the case is.

[TheSurg]

For saying a thing about XO that sony fanboys don't like even if it's an awesome fact.

[mmccarthy4]

it won't be all their first party exclusives

[Foxgod]

I dont think they will show all 15 exclusives, some of the exclusives may not be unveiled until next years e3.
Remember, both this xmas, and next years xmas are in the first year of the xbox1

[YodaCracker]

I'm so excited! I can't wait to see what Microsoft has in store. I am ready to be blown away.

[mmccarthy4]

I wanna see how well cloud computing improves their gaming experience because if it impresses it will be a huge edge on sony and if it sucks they can show themselves out

[GenericNameHere]

I'm hoping at least HALF of the 15 exclusives announced aren't Kinect-only party/fitness/dance games! :)
E3! E3!! E3!!! Less than 20 hours now until Microsoft kicks it off!!

[aviator189]

i agree.
if the majority are kinect-exclusive games, i'm out.

[mmccarthy4]

I doubt it would be that many but I can see a lot being Kinect integrated in certain portions of games. Like the motion controls in some of the ps3 games like in killzone 3 when you twist the controller to turn valves and activate bombs.

[theWB27]

Can't wait for both conferences...it's like Christmas eve. Why can't I sleep until the conference starts?? Am I crazy, or has there been virtually no leaks compared to past E3'S?

[M-M]

I know, there's usually a few leaks beforehand. The only leak I saw today was the Watchdogs trailer.

[grailly]

the last 2 years sony were showing their games i the weeks leading up to E3, and this year hey are keeping all of it for the conference, it might be that.

[badkolo]

anti consumer and all, getting it day 1

[Biohazard8860]

Congrats on supporting this piece of crap. Sheep like you are the reasons these companies can run and do what they want if you're a real gamer you will not support this garbage of a gaming system.

[theWB27]

Im getting one too, PS4 too: )

[Mr_Nuts]

Funny thing is when it gets worse you'll have the same people moaning about it...may aswell stand your ground now then moaning about it later when you can't do nothing.

[rela82me]

Essentially your just as much sheep as the xbox fans, you blindly support a console that has at this time not confirmed the very things people hate about MS. Sure they said not always online, but for god sakes, every comment someone supports a console they like because they accept the pro's AND the cons you criticise their freedom of choice. If anything is anti-consumer it is being scrutinized for looking at the facts and still saying 'hey this console still looks to offer me a good experience and shouldn't affect me enough to hinder buying it.'

Just ease up and let people be 'sheep' as you call it, because in the end it won't do anything to hurt you, and in my belief wont do anything to hurt me. I will pay for used game fees IF they happen to exist. I love the always online features because it keeps me connected, and I think the Kinect functionality may be gimmicky at times, but I see applications where it could be useful and entertaining as well.

If we are sheep, I deem you lions. You prey on the sheep because we are comfortable... However lions still follow one another blindy just as much as sheep do, you just have more hatred.

[AngryEnglish]

"Real gamer" ...,, I love the way this term is thrown around, what is a real gamer? Someone who's of the same opinion of you?

For me a real gamer owns more than one console, plays games for the sake of games and not the system, you don't think Sony will go the way if Microsoft are doing, we will see when publishers incorporate it into the games they make.

I've been around for every console launch and the amount if times I've heard this real gamer be is amazing...... A real gamer started gaming on a binetone pong machine, they owned a wood veneer Atari 2600, they had master systems and nes, they had Atari ST and amigas.....

Real gamers know what a game called Elite was :)

[ThatEnglishDude]

Isn't Sony showing 40+ games?

[Biohazard8860]

Yes they are across there multiple systems PS3/PS4/Vita.But ill say this if sony has the same policy's like used games 24 hour online check in DRM as the Xbox one nextgen gaming is Fu%ked.

[clank543]

Well, I think we might be in for a long 5-8 years then.

[ThatEnglishDude]

Ah that makes more sense. I doubt Sony will be as Nazi as Microsoft have shown themselves to be, but they have been suspiciously quiet about the whole deal, releasing single sentence comments about the subject. All will be revealed soon I guess. I just think Microsoft will have to do something pretty damn incredible to win back the gaming audience.

[Veneno]

At Biohazard

Yeah if Sony does this as well it just goes to show how much these companies see us as sheep. I was a huge PC gamer last decade but eventually had
to give it up because console gaming was catching up fast and eventually had more advantages than PC, for me anyways.

These companies think we won't give up on them but they are dead dead wrong. I walked from PC, and I'll walk from consoles.

[Foxgod]

No, there will be 40+ games available on the ps4, they wont be showing them all.

[clank543]

I'll be interested to see Microsoft's conference tomorrow. One thing they do have is deep pockets, and they will be on display tomorrow morning. However, I just don't trust the studios making these games that much. Microsoft's first party studios haven't released a game I really liked that isn't Halo or Forza since Remedy's Alan Wake.

[RM-TatoTiburon]

20 games and i'm just hyped by one...the Rare game, can't wait

[weekev15]

Think its a new Banjo game. Fingers crossed for something closer to the n64 versions than nuts n bolts...

[RM-TatoTiburon]

i'm hoping for a new conker or killer instinct maybe battletoads that will be huge

[mydyingparadiselost]

20 games that you can't play without an internet connection and skynect attached.

[tarbis]

YAY! More Kinect games. :D

[American_Gamer]

That's a lot of games! Guess Microsoft wasn't kidding when they said this E3 was all about games. I'm interested to see some of the Xbox 360 surprises, hopefully a super slim Xbox 360, price cut to $99, Halo 2 HD and another game or two.

Really looking forward to seeing some of those Xbox One titles though, Quantum Break has my full attention right now. They also said even more games will be shown on the pre-show, so this is shaping up to be a game filled day for Microsoft.

[Loki86]

20 games in a conference sounds awesome.

[horndog]

Cant wait!! I see that the sony fans are more excited then the xbox fans here. Just cant stay away from MS forums. I will get an xboxone on day ONE. Yeah!!

[whoyouwit04]

People are missing the most important part, he said 20 games in the conference, and even more in the spike preshow. To top it all off they already confirmed that they will have even more unannounced games at Games Con and TGS. All I can say is 23 studios and a billion dollars will get you a hell of a lot of games.

[SonyAddict]

@fordgtguy
Are you freaking serious?

[NavydAd]

I'm interested

[whoyouwit04]

I'm willing to bet that four are from rare simply because they have pages reserved for Killer Instinc, Battle Toads, Banjoo KooZooie And maybe they will relaunch Sabreman.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Sounds like MS definitely is coming with games in hand for their event. Given COD did a big reveal today on SP they either won't be on stage or ( more likely ) they show mp for the first time. Whats interesting is they say 20 on stage. Does that mean we see other sizzle reals with games? Sony likes to play that game too.

[urwifeminder]

Got my money ready ms cant wait to see the games reveal and get my hands on that controller great day for gamers.

[Garbanjo001]

Revealing more games because they screwed themselves and think that GAMES will save their GAMING console. Little late I believe, I'm already done with Xbox.

[FlunkinMonkey]

People still having faith, and the way i see it, blindly following MS right now.. I am astonished. It's lies and more lies from a company who's taking a serious step in monopolosing our gamers rights..

I was down for seeing what MS had in store, but now i hope they crash and burn tonight. They have completely left their consumer fanbase on the 360, and their treatment of their 'next-gen' audience is atrocious.

Good luck!

[fooltheman]

New news... ^^

1. Confirmed Microsoft is actively attempting to get developers to not mention PS4 versions. If they don't say "OUR GAME IS EXCLUSIVE FOR XBONE" expect a PS4 version. #truthfact

2. More DRM messaging at Gamescom. There is no rental strategy. Try to sweep it under the rug and hope people don't remember.

3. Cloud power was designed as DRM. Period. DRM was Microsoft's idea. EA and Ubisoft are supporters, Activision slightly less so.

4. DRM plans are actually worse than what they've stated.

5. Mirror's Edge 2 at MS conference.

6. Prince of Persia (reboot?) at MS conference.

7. Secret Phil Spencer game = World of Tanks

8. Live paywall still there.

9. Dead Rising 3, and exclusive DLC for another Capcom game at MS conference.

10. No online paywall for PS4. Unconfirmed.

11. No DRM info for PS4.

[CrossingEden]

I wonder if i'm the only one who read the article and realized that this article isn't titled,
20 EXCLUSIVES
-_-

[Mkai28]

E3 awaits..