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The most anticipated racing games of E3 2013

VVV: "Of course, this being VVV we’re here to talk about driving games, and E3 2013 is looking like an exceptional show for the genre. Even my exhaustive 2013 racing games preview couldn’t predict the plethora of high profile racing games that were unexpectedly announced over the past few weeks in the run-up to the big day.

We will endeavor to bring you all the latest news and hands-on gameplay videos directly from the show floor throughout next week, but for now here’s our racing game road map of what to expect from E3 2013:
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Muerte24943971d ago (Edited 3971d ago )

really?

"Poor Polyphony. No sooner had they announced Gran Turismo 6 after taking their sweet time before Microsoft arguably punctured all the excitement with Forza Motorsport 5.

Of course, there's always been bickering between the two rival franchise, but there's a significant difference this time: FM5 will benefit from being a shiny next gen title on Xbox One, whereas GT6 is still clinging to the PS3. I therefore can’t help but worry that history is about to repeat itself, as Polyphony are once again in danger of languishing behind the competition."

Gran Turismo has never seen Forza as a direct competitor. Turn 10 is bragging about something that Polyphony achieved on ps3 (1080p/60fps current gen).

only sales numbers I had to go by. Sorry it's crappy VGchartz so Playstation might be getting low balled.

Forza 4 = 3.96 million global
http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

Gran Turismo 5 = 10.41 million
http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

Gamers have spoken

Foxgod3971d ago (Edited 3971d ago )

Who says they are bragging, people just wanted to know if the game finally goes FullHD, people been tweeting them like crazy for that info, after they revealed the 60 fps info.

And yes, GT outsells Forza big time, but near 4 million is still pretty darn impressive, and Forza also got some features over GT, such as having a premium treatment for all cars.

@IGAMUR
4 million is still impressive, as a lot of studio's are dreaming of those numbers, GT is not the center of the world, so theres no need to compare numbers.

iGAM3R-VIII3971d ago (Edited 3971d ago )

DriveCLub and GT6 are my most anticipated :D

Anyway I own both GT5 and F4. They both are almost the same but GT5 is better overall and has better engine. Forza 4 has a lot more customization and user free detailing which I like but overall GT5 is my favourite

I am looking forward to DriveClub as well as the graphics and cars seem nice. It also might have a lot more user cutomization since it is socially driven! :D

@Fozgod You see 4 million isn't that impressive when you consider that the GT5 sold over 5 million more than Forza 4 which is double what it sold. It does show which is the better game. Even though GT5 didn't have every car as a premium, I still loved it. I couldn't car anyless because thy cars I did love had a premium. Just because you cannot see the cockpit of the car, doesn't mean it's a downfall. The only thing I like more about Forza 4 is that the user customization is greater but other than that, GT5 all the way, and the sales show it aswell

loulou3971d ago

no muerte... a fanboy has spoken.

still, gt as a launch title would have been a massive boost for the ps4. no denying that

iGAM3R-VIII3971d ago (Edited 3971d ago )

Not really, Sony still have to show hat they support the PS3. If they released GT6 for both PS4 and PS4, there would have to be a huge difference between the two. I think it was smart because we have DriveClub for PS4 which imo looks simply stunning.

@below I doubt that it will be a PS4 version. He said it wasn't in mind which means it might not but we will see at E3. Laos since that PS4 is such a beast, and the hardware is much more powerful, you can port it to the PS4 but the graphics will lose and they would need to improve the engine and graphics since it is more powerful, otherwise, why buy the PS4 version when you can get the PS3 version. ALso DriveClub looks to be a nice game and I will be getting it with the PS4.

Skips3971d ago (Edited 3971d ago )

http://www.videogamer.com/p...

Massively updated PS4 version incoming...

Considering GT6 was built for the ground up for PS3, and how incredibly easy it is to develop/port to PS4.

Smart move by Sony...

@below

"if MS would do that people would act like its the end of the world, by argumenting over rehashes."

Probably because Microsoft have been using the same 3-4 IP's for like, 4 years straight without giving anything new???

Foxgod3971d ago

As nice as it is to get a ps4 version, if MS would do that people would act like its the end of the world, by argumenting over rehashes.

Skips3971d ago (Edited 3971d ago )

@iGAM3R-VIII

"I doubt that it will be a PS4 version. He said it wasn't in mind".

From the article:

- "We actually do have a PlayStation 4 version in mind," reveals Polyphony boss.

- "Yamauchi suggests that the PS4 version may include additional content released following the game's PS3 launch."

What are you talking about??? He clearly wants to make an updated PS4 version.

Hicken3971d ago

The difference between Forza and GT is, as I'm sure you know, that one will have had two entries this generation, while the other has already had four.

Forza 5 would have been the fifth game this generation, and the third in three years.

How long has it been since GT5 came out?

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NukaCola3971d ago

I'm most excited for Drive Club. It's the only one doing something new. Also like to see Mario Kart Wii U demos.

Foxgod3971d ago

Hopefully with sonic in it, so that it feels a bit like super smash kart brothers :)

theWB273971d ago

You do know Forza already does most of the car club features they're discussing?

http://www.gamespot.com/fea...

chcolatesnw3971d ago

GT5 is NOT 1080p since 1280x1080 is NOT 1920x1080p LMAOOOOOOOOOOO
Ill just leave proof that GT5 is a piece of crap compared to Forza
GT5 claims 1000 cars where 800 of them are GT4 models like this http://i.imgur.com/Cy07n6n....

iGAM3R-VIII3971d ago (Edited 3971d ago )

"GT5 is NOT 1080p since 1280x1080 is NOT 1920x1080p"

1080p IS 1280x1080 and it can be 1920x1080 but the 2nd one is more HD and better per use and GT5 was 720p

@below GT5 was 720p and I know that. It could be played at 1080p though so I do not know what you mean. Alsowho cares baout the premium car thing. Almost all of them have been fixed by now

Also Forza 5 seems like a good promise with the full HD and running at 60fps with full 1080p so I am looking forward to seeing that

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Foxgod3971d ago

indeed, 1080p means 1920x1080p

other quasi x1080 resolutions are 1080i.
So Forza5 will be the first fullhd racing simulator on consoles.

Muerte24943971d ago

is an anamorphic resolution. 1440x1080 and 1280x1080 are both 1080p resolution used save bandwidth. "P" stands for progressive scans and "I" stands for interlaced (ever other line). Know what you're talking about, instead of spewing nonsense. 1280x1080p is in fact 1080p

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

"Of course there is no Xbox 360 version to compare with, but arguably we can go one better. GT5 has individual support for 720p, 1080p and 3D. By capturing and analysing the same replay clips in each of the three different modes, we can better understand the strengths and weaknesses of the GT5 engine"

Now why would that say 1080p version instead of 1080i? Hmm, maybe it's because it's 1,080 PROGRESSIVE LINES.

TheSurg3971d ago (Edited 3971d ago )

@iGAM3R-VIII

Forza running at 1080p and 60fps is impressive with that kind of graphics but fanboys will still talk crap about it. Reminds me of this ridiculous poll

"Which game has the higher framerate? - Results (102 votes)

1.Forza Motorsports 5 (60 frames per second)- 51 votes
2.Drive Club (30 frames per second)- 51 votes

When blind fanboys say 30 fps is more than 60 fps then there is no hope...they've outdone themselves.

WarThunder3971d ago

lol!
http://i.imgur.com/3DqMpDV....

n4g has a lot of users with random names with lot of bubble defending anything about X1 hmmmm

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LeRise3971d ago (Edited 3971d ago )

By the way:

All Forzas (5 games) combined = 15.81 million copies
All GT5-s combined (2 games) = 14.54 million copies

Guess what will happen if GT6 comes on both PS3 and PS4.

Proofs:
http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...
http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

F4sterTh4nFTL3971d ago

Forza 2 (2007) = 4.00 Million, Metacritic/User Score = 90, 8.4
Forza 3 (2009) = 5.37 Million, Metacritic/User Score = 92, 7.9
Forza 4 (2011) = 3.96 Million, Metacritic/User Score = 91, 8.0
Forza Horizon (2012) = 1.4 Million, Metacritic/User Score = 85, 8.3

Forza Total on Xbox 360 = 14.73 Million

Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (2007) = 4.13 Million, Metacritic/User Score = 80, 7.3
Gran Turismo 5 (2010) = 10.41 Million, Metacritic = 84, 7.5

Gran Turismo Total on PS3 = 14.54 Million

Numbers don't lie only fanboys do.

iGAM3R-VIII3971d ago

The fact you didn't even add GT4, GT3, GT2 and GT1 proves that overall, the GT series beat the total by a longshot.

Muerte24943971d ago

Four Forza releases to only 2 Gran Turismo releases. The difference is only 190,000 and this is according to VGchartz numbers.

greenpowerz3971d ago

Well FasterThanFTL tried to spin it the best he could with some integrity intact.

People compare the two simulator franchises when they both existed.

Not many people would compare an average score of games that existed before the ones they are comparing them to didn't even exist.

People are also comparing GT and Forza proper(SIM) not spin -offs

Getting into secondary releases to throw the average and give the edge to Sony, we might as well be talking about spin offs like Polyphony Digital's *Tourist Trophy* etc.

InTheLab3971d ago

makes you wonder where forza 4 would be without the forza 4/skyrim bundle. because for a while there, it was stuck at 1.4m.

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stage883971d ago

Definitely GT6, can't wait to see it at E3!

TXIDarkAvenger3971d ago

As a racing fan, this is going to be awesome.

OrangePowerz3971d ago

Looking forward to the new Mario Kart for Wii U. Just to be a bit different :) Also looking forward for most of the other games, not that much for yet another Need for Speed game. I much rather have another proper Burnout (don`t get me wrong I love Burnout Paradise) that`s about crashing others and create chaos at street junctions instead f open world.

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60FPS on PS5: Unofficial PS5 'FPS Boost' mods are radically improving PS4 back compat

Digital Foundry : Whether it's via FPS Boost or bespoke software upgrades, backwards compatibility on the current-gen consoles delivered an unexpected delight - the ability to liberate older console games from their 30fps limits, running them at 60 frames per second or even higher. FPS Boost did the business for Xbox Series consoles on an impressive range of titles, but there was always the sense that PS5 could do more. It's a hunch that checks out as a range of frame-rate unlocks are available for PS5, covering many must-have games - the major caveat being that only exploitable consoles running on older firmwares are invited to the party.

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darthv72102d ago

you love to see new life being breathed into older titles but damn the process to get there. It should be automatic that these work for everyone... not just those who exploit their systems. Really wish Sony and MS would keep this program going officially.

Psychonaut85102d ago

Damn this sucks. I want this shit so bad, but I’m not jailbreaking my console. And frankly I shouldn’t have to. I’m not a tech person, but is it really that hard for developers to unlock the framerate? Or would that have to be a large patch?

dveio102d ago (Edited 102d ago )

"but is it really that hard for developers to unlock the framerate?"

I guess it's not.

But it has become a profitable business if you do so.

So no one would pay for only the framerate patched to being unlocked. So studios need to offer more than that.

But this would take more time, polishing and would cost more money. So they shy away, but won't unlock the framerate, either.

That's just my personal assumption. But from what I can comprehend technically, it shouldn't be difficult to unlock framerates via a patch for older games.

... if it hadn't became a business.

RaidenBlack102d ago (Edited 102d ago )

frame-rate unlock should be free ...
We've seen many devs offer free patches and updates to pretty old PC titles, even bonuses ... so why can't devs offer the frame unlock patch for free (in consultation with the platform-producers) for a title from just a generation earlier?

Einhander1972102d ago

RaidenBlack

"frame-rate unlock should be free ..."

Obviously the result of that thinking is that developers aren't even going to do it.

If they had been allowed to charge $5-10 you would see incentivized developers doing it way more often.

People just always want everything for free, but it's not free to make the patch, people have to code it then other people have to test it, and there will always be other costs involved.

If people want dollar store gaming then expect to get what you pay for.

shinoff2183101d ago (Edited 101d ago )

Raiden I might be wrong but last I thought it cost money to put patches out on consoles.

As far as me paying for it, I'm not all that interested tbh. Not enough to pay for it with older games, and newer games have been pretty decent about it for the most part.

dumahim102d ago

Sounds like the modder has to go in to make changes to unlock it on a game by game basis. "Simple" enough to do it unofficially, but to have it done officially, they need someone to go in a make that change, put out a patch and put it through certification, which I believe is not necessarily a cheap thing to do. It's questionable if going through this would then give them enough sales to make it worthwhile.

Inverno102d ago

Many games still have physics tied to framerate, i think it's cause they wouldn't want to go in and do anything extra. Then there's the 10 dollar upgrades they rather charge. The problem is that there's no compromise, cause if I could mod my PS4 and all I'd lose is online play then id jailbreak it immediately. Mods have done so much for PC games and they could do the same for consoles, but manufacturers hafto be willing to compromise.

shinoff2183101d ago

It's not to hard to do and there's youtube videos that break it down really well. ANyway most of us here arent able to break are console anyway due to being up to date on firmware from playing

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Chocoburger102d ago

Yep, this sucks having to require a jailbreak for something that should be standard in our industry by now. I learned my lesson when PS4 was jailbroken and I didn't keep a console on low firmware for years, but now I'm holding onto two low firmware PS5s specifically because there are features I'll be able to do that you can't do on official firmware, so this will pay off for me soon enough.

Jin_Sakai102d ago

It should be a sin to let these games sit and be stuck at 30fps.

EazyC102d ago

RDR 2 not getting a 60FPS patch for PS5 was a crime.

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Top 10 Best Need for Speed Games of All Time, Ranked

After nearly three decades of NFS games, here's a list of the best Need For Speed titles that have ever been released in the past years, ranked by The Nerd Stash.

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Comparing the New Grand Valley in Gran Turismo 7 to the Original

A detailed look at Gran Turismo 7's new track Grand Valley, judging its evolution from its former design and layout in Gran Turismo 6, side by side.

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SullysCigar427d ago (Edited 427d ago )

Wow, crazy isn't it? The draw distance is vastly improved, the background textures too and there's ZERO shimmer now. And the replays are night and day!

EIDT: @below, Haha I didn't notice that!

IRetrouk427d ago

Yeah, theres a massive improvment all round, Looks amazing with the time of day transitions too, me and a couple online buddies jumped on earlier to try it out lol, did you notice the beach full of seals?

closed_account427d ago

That coastline looks amazing and I can only imagine it in VR! Looks like an entirely new course as far as scenery goes.

IRetrouk427d ago

Yeah, those views are going to be crazy when we are "there" can't wait!

PureBlood427d ago

Just got confirmation my PSVR2 is shipping by 24 hour courier, so I should have it tomorrow! I know nobody else cares, but I had to tell someone lol

GT7 will be my first game, as I want to test out my wheel - so excited - it's going to be awesome!

Deathdeliverer427d ago

I got my confirmation and date (22nd) showing for the charging station. The headset itself has been in “shipped-processing” status since last Friday. I’m like dang can I see the date? I was in the first round of preorders. Whenever it does get here, I’m ready. Going to go update everything and try to get over this cold.

PureBlood427d ago

Wish you better, bud, fingers crossed for your order too.

@S2Killinit - Thank you!

IRetrouk427d ago

I care👊🏻, mine is still saying prep for shipping😔

PureBlood427d ago

Thanks man 👊

Word of advice: be ready for the impromptu jig that happens when that email drops, it can be embarrassing..

DaReapa427d ago

Just got my second shipping confirmation email as well.

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S2Killinit427d ago

Man i caant wait. One day left!

Flawlessmic426d ago

I know you and a lot of people are excited for VR but dont sleep on sophy, sophy is the real game changer here!

After giving sophy a run last night, i can safely say the actual racing in future GT's is going to be Fu***** amazing!!!

even on intermediate on some tracks the AI was coming back at me on my waiting for me to slip, attacking the space if i left the door open for them, honestly felt like i was racing against people and not some very limited AI that once i passed them they may as well have been eliminated from the race like GT ai normally is.

pump it up to expert and its a real challenge to stay ahead, the next level up from expert man the AI kicked my ass, like badly.

i remember when sophy was first annouced all the nay sayers said its a pipe dream and we will never see it implemented and here we are a yr later and sophy is being tested in game for us to try out and is every good as whats been promised.

VR plus racing against sophy and wowww your not gonna feal like your actually racing for real anywhere else outside of gt.

sophy will change the game in gt8

S2Killinit426d ago

Hm I didnt realize it was like that. I didnt even know why there was so much hype about it. But thanknyou for explaining that. I mean I get it now.

But I’ll be seeing it in action tomorrow! Woot woot.

Flawlessmic426d ago

It's only for a limited time and only has 4 races but I encourage you and everyone else try it and see the difference compared to the normal Ai.

Sophy has slipped completely under the radar in this latest uodate

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Father__Merrin427d ago

Wow gt6 was awesome under appreciated because of time it came out

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