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How games are inept cultural thieves, stealing the heroes but missing the point

Games have nabbed action and characters from the silver screen, but have forgotten the human element.

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lucidity3973d ago

See: every WW2 shooter that lifted the Normandy landing from Saving Private Ryan because they thought it was "cool".

This is a problem for AAA games, certainly; rooted in a desperate need to be cinematic to ensure sales and disregarding the strengths of the medium. But not a universal one. We do get titles like Ico that do things right. They're just a minority, sadly.

Timesplitter143973d ago

I think the author is forgetting the fact that movies, shows and books ALSO steal these ideas from eachother. When was the last time you saw a movie that was truly original? I can't even remember.

He also forgets that not all games have the same purpose. A game like Contra isn't trying to blow you away with its narrative. It's an arcade game.

lucidity3973d ago

I don't think the complaint is really "games borrow things from movies and are therefore bad", it's more that some games will basically duplicate a character, scene or apply a trope from a popular movie without understanding why they work (and *that* us bad). When they lift character archetypes, they often forget to follow through on the arcs needed for the character to be interesting. It leads to the story sucking.

The Normandy thing I mentioned is symptomatic of it: the scene in Saving Private Ryan meant to be hellish, harrowing, brutal. You're not supposed to look at it and think it's cool or fun. But it's ended up in a half dozen games as a set piece meant to give the player a sense of empowerment.

I do disagree a little with the piece railing on Master Chief and Marcus Fenix, because efforts were made by the developers of those respective franchises to give unique emotional depth to them. They didn't do it well, but the attempt was made.

BlagaMan853973d ago

That's the thing. There are good games that nail good characters, but most end up just going for the archetype. No depth and fake character arcs. Because there's nothing wrong with stealing from other mediums (it's called inspiration, so it doesn't sound so bad). But do it properly. See what really makes the iconic characters tick. John Mcclane isn't fun just because he can blow things up (no matter what the more recent movies seem to say).

Foxgod3973d ago (Edited 3973d ago )

And Hollywood took it from books, and books took it from historic events.... so?
Inspiration has to come from somewhere.

ifritAlkhemyst3973d ago

Reread what the article says, than read lucidity's 2nd post above.

Then reevaluate your reading comprehensions skills.

Wni03973d ago

I think you guys are missing the point. This guy is saying game writers are just blindly taking ideas because they sound or look cool, instead of why they are important.

rextraordinaire3973d ago

What I don't like about this kind of story is that the author often fails to balance the issue with examples of good story writing.

Plenty of games deliver solid stories, inspired or not by common tropes.

Take Persona 4 as an example. It is a superbly cliché, teen-thriller story, but then it manages to include many taboo subjects in it's character, like homosexuality, gender confusion, suicidal tendencies and objectification.

I understand that jrpgs are not what most would call mainstream games, especially not Atlus', but these games still sell well into the 100 000 copies. That is probably more viewers than some art house movies dealing with the same subject matters...

Baka-akaB3973d ago

Precseily , i you're gonna accuse the medium as a whole of poor writing , then at least make an effort of judging the whole spectrum ... not some convenient list of popular games .

If that kind of dishonesty was applied to movies , we'd be left with only articles criticizing blockbusters such as transformers 1-3 or fast and furious

BlagaMan853973d ago

But movies at least have a rich enough background to ensure that they are impossible to generalize. When it comes to games, the majority still fall on cliches and empty characters. There are good examples, sure, but there are just too many bad ones to ignore.

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Rumored Gears of War Collection is at the top of my 2024 Xbox wishlist

As the long-rumored Gears of War Collection looks like it may finally materialize on Xbox, the timing could not be better as Gears 6 and movie news swirls.

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1Victor99d ago (Edited 99d ago )

(Insert “It should be multi platform if Microsoft investors wants more money” JK here)
All jokes aside congratulations to all the gears fans it will be a blast I remember having fun on the first one on my 360 elite till got RROD and quit Xbox all together but that’s a story for another day.
Congratulations 🎊 🍾 🎉 🎈 🎉 🙏

Wyesvin99d ago

I'm excited for this just aslong is on the pc also cause I don't have the newest xbox console.

shinoff218399d ago

I enjoyed the tactical one. I can't remember the actual name but it was fun.

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Gears of War Collection allegedly in testing phase for Xbox release

Marcus Fenix and the crew could be back on your screens once more, as the rumored Gears of War Collection is near completion on Xbox.

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VenomUK100d ago

sweeeeeeeeeeeet
Switch and PS5 owners are gonna love this.

Stuart5756100d ago

Every article, console fanboy trite, all these years later. Let me explain it AGAIN, in simple terms for the fanboys. Sentient human gamers do have their preferred platform, however they will buy and own multiple platforms so they can enjoy the games they want to enjoy. I own and have owned multiple platforms, Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft and now Valve, simply to enjoy a wide range of games across a broad spectrum of platforms. It's great. You don't have to pick a 'team' and cheer them on through thick and thin, dissing the other 'team'. And for you 'VenomUK' to state 'Switch and PS5 owners are gonna love this', proves that you're a bit behind. Learn, enjoy, live, develop, trust and coexist if you can, life is better that way.

Blad3runner00100d ago

@Stuart5756
Well said.
This is why i never understand fanboying over hardware. This is not like a sports team, its just hardware. Why some people have this mentality to pick a side and stick with it and refuse to look at other platforms, therefore depriving themselves of games that are only available on those platforms. They are suppose to be gamers after all?

FinalFantasyFanatic100d ago

It's practically guaranteed to come to PC as well, if that's the case, I might pick it up after it gets a discount or two.

TheEroica100d ago (Edited 100d ago )

Thank goodness for pro gamer companies like Microsoft.... It's about time we unified platforms where now only corporate suits benefit! Pro gamers all the way. Thanks Microsoft!

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RaidenBlack101d ago

Yup ... bring Gears 2, 3 Judgement as well as Fable II and Halo 5 to PC

phoenixwing101d ago

Online portions would be a bonus.

FinalFantasyFanatic100d ago

I'm really shocked that Halo 5 still isn't on PC yet, almost everything is ported over and that's the only Halo game that hasn't been ported.

Profchaos101d ago

Take it with a grain of salt this leaker has been wrong many Times

The connection has been rumoured in the past so there's some credibility but it's more if it's actually in testing or not

Father__Merrin101d ago

tell u what gears 3 on series x same 360 game but in 4k and 60fps is a dream it looks crystal clear

Sciurus_vulgaris101d ago

The Series X enhanced versions of Gears 3 and Judgement can at times look like Xbox One titles.

Concertoine100d ago

Yeah i got into Gears 3 multiplayer last year. People still play it a lot. Tons of maps and looks great with the 60 FPS.

Brazz101d ago

It would be funny to see Gears of War collection on Nintendo Switch.

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I'll Be Happy With Anything Gears of War, But Nothing Beats A 1-3 Remaster

Huzaifah from eXputer "With a new Gears of War game possible, I'll go ahead and say that the original trilogy was the peak of the series and should get remastered."

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Wyesvin105d ago

I wish they would put 2 and 3 on pc

RaidenBlack105d ago

^ this
and judgement as well
Why not Remaster them and release them as Marcus Fenix Collection for PC and Series

phoenixwing105d ago (Edited 105d ago )

I would buy it. I sh1t on microsoft alot but their gears of War series I loved. Some great gameplay and if they would keep up the multiplayer I'd play that too.

CrimsonWing69105d ago

1-3 are incredible with each one being bigger and better than the last. I don’t know what it is, but 4 was super underwhelming to me and 5 was slightly better than 4, but I didn’t feel the same epic feeling I had when going through 1-3. I hope 6 brings that epicness back, but yea like a full remake of 1-3 with current-gen visuals would be *chef’s kiss*.

ocelot07105d ago

I was actually devastated with Gears 1 Remaster on Xbox and PC. From when the OG released in 2006 right up until Gears 2 released a few years later. Me and a small group of friends would play it almost daily.

When the remaster arrived. It was annoying that they changed the way you could find a create games. The PC version was dead on arrival as it didn't release on steam just the crappy windows store so about 7 people (including me) bought it. I think I managed to find about 5 games in the first week of release. After that it was just a ghost town.

Not sure about Xbox version. Didn't actually try it until I got a series s in late 2022. It was completely dead online.

chicken_in_the_corn105d ago

A new game would be best. I don't understand why gamers want to rebuy old games over something new.

Juiceid105d ago

It an excuse to revisit something you loved a long time, and it’s prettier and shinier!

raWfodog105d ago

Yeah, new game is always better in my book but remake/remaster is definitely a good runner-up.

franwex105d ago (Edited 105d ago )

Agreed. The old games are there anyway.

I went back and played them all again in anticipation of Gears 5 with a friend and they hold up really well. In fact, they were more fun than the recent ones in some ways.

neutralgamer1992105d ago

we need all gears of war games on steam please

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