Has Microsoft Already Ruined the Xbox One?

Microsoft’s big day at E3, the world’s largest video game expo, has been tarnished – perhaps even sabotaged – before the convention begins. Fans, who have been waiting nearly seven years for the Xbox’s 360 next-generation successor, had their excitement turn to anger when it became clear that Microsoft would require internet connectivity and impose restrictions on how used games are re-sold and shared.

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Wizziokid2011d ago

With every bit of news the release things get worse, E3 is their last chance. if they mess that up then I have no idea what people see in the Xbox One

Sandmano2011d ago (Edited 2011d ago )

Even thought they release interesting looking exclusives I believe its too late.

Wizziokid2011d ago

I will miss playing games like Halo but I just can't see myself paying money to partially own my games.

The last thing I want to do is support this direction MS is heading which, if successful you will see as the norm in the future generations.

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guitarded772010d ago

I'm interested in a new Gears, Forza, Halo, etc, but the current online and privacy issues have me not buying one until possible way later in its lifecycle.

Now this rumor from NeoGAF saying that MS is paying 3rd party pubs to not show their games on PS4 at E3 has me really disturbed. I'm taking it as it is (a rumor), but if it turns out to be true, that would be another huge strike against the XBOX One.

I thought Nintendo screwed up with their initial reveal of the Wii U, but MS has taken it to a whole 'nother level. They are being shady with the gamers, and it looks like they have aligned themselves with the publishers and not the developers and gamers.

fr0sty2010d ago

This is what I've felt I'm seeing every day leading up to the E3 press conference...

Man-E-Faces2010d ago

Your post is 1 of the most truest I have ever laid eyes upon not only on here N4G but any other gaming forum,
thank you!

fr0sty2010d ago (Edited 2010d ago )

"Now this rumor from NeoGAF saying that MS is paying 3rd party pubs to not show their games on PS4 at E3 has me really disturbed. I'm taking it as it is (a rumor), but if it turns out to be true, that would be another huge strike against the XBOX One. "

I'm a gaming journalist and have been for many years. I've attended press events where Microsoft paid to have their logos plastered all over the lobby, even on the napkins, and only Xbox 360 consoles were present. No PS3 version was shown at all (THQ was especially bad about this.), or if it was shown it was on two or three TVs vs. 30-40 for Xbox. In other words, Microsoft has already been doing this for a long time, just not on the scale that they apparently are these days.

I also have seen them do similar things at E3, but not on the scale they are rumored to be doing this year.

I miss when companies used the merits of their own games to sell them, rather than tossing piles of cash around to give the impression of a preference for their product. Thankfully some still do let their games sell themselvess, but this is still disappointing to see none the less.

ABizzel12010d ago


I don't know about paying third parties, but I wouldn't be shocked if they're paying the media off. Perfect example Spike TV is airing the EA and M$ conference, but passing on Sony and Nintendo.

I'm sure being having exclusive coverage of M$'s conference in the pass hasn't had any effect on this decision, or the fact that the X1 needs all the positive press it can get seeing how the PS4 is demolishing it amongst the core.

Shady underhanded tactics like this, just makes me dislike M$ even more.

fr0sty2010d ago (Edited 2010d ago )

I can confirm I have never seen this in practice. While I did get showered with gifts and free all expenses paid trips to New York, L.A., Vegas, etc. to attend press events (a common industry practice used by all), I never got cash outright from any publisher or developer. Not saying it has never happened, but I haven't personally observed it.

Spike not airing Sony is due to Sony having their conference during prime time. No network is going to change their prime time programming just to cover a video game conference. I've also spent time working in television so I know how that all goes. Nintendo isn't even doing an E3 conference, opting instead to release some nintendo direct videos to the public, so that explains that.

I don't doubt that MS has engaged in some shady tactics with the media, but I just don't see the link with the Spike TV thing. My gut tells me if Sony's conference was at noon rather than 6-9pm (depending on time zone), we'd be seeing it on Spike as well.

I'm no fan of MS, but I have to be fair about it.

Sono4212010d ago (Edited 2010d ago )

Now hold on you guys.. just wait till E3 where Microsoft will announce all of those games you can license ;)

Seriously though, one thing I just thought of.. what if for some reason your Xbox One breaks and you have to get a new one.. then you will always be limited to the 1 hour rule.. your screwed. Also aren't they technically preventing you from buying a used system with the way they set this up? I would think so if they link your account to your system, unless you can somehow deactivate it from the system but doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of these hoops? Wouldn't that be a way around it? So F***ing confusing... seriously... why M$

But imagine later down the road when the Next consoles come out after PS4 and Xbox One and the servers are taken down for Xbox One.. You can't even go back and play old singleplayer games(offline).. so you should just sell them... oh wait...

ShwankyShpanky2010d ago

@fr0sty: re Spike/Sony/primetime

But isn't Spike showing a run of the movie DodgeBall during the Sony presser? It's not like they're skipping Sony to show some hot new primetime material.

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Sandmano2011d ago

Yeah I always enjoy playing the latest Halo game and also gears. I had high hopes that MS might just sway me this gen but Sony just stole the show.

kneon2010d ago (Edited 2010d ago )

Sony isn't stealing the show, it's been handed to them on a silver platter.

I hope they hang on tight and not drop it.

Dee_912010d ago

This is the first time im gonna actually pass on games because of principle, and it sucks a lot.My gamer side keeps telling my integrity to just give up and buy it, but I have to keep telling myself theres a bigger picture and hoping this will make an impact for a better future.
Even though I doubt PS4 will have any type of DRM XBOne has, this goes for PS4 too.
Honestly its bigger than PS4 vs XBOne,its bigger than the future of gaming too.This is about rights and our rights to own what we buy.
You say " oh where I live the internet goes out so I wont have any issues" or these restrictions dont effect me, or we are making this bigger than it really is, we should be making this a bigger deal.

Mr_Nuts2010d ago

I don't think E3 will do any good, they could announce a crap load of games but the negatives out weigh the possistives. Lets not forget they're only doing that to lure us in, after those games you'll hardly see a new IP from them again

TheEvilWithin2010d ago

Umm SOOOO true... Lets Look at Xbox 360 for starts. Mass Effect, Bioshock, Dead Rising, Witcher 2... these are just a few that Xbox used to entice people in then latterly they drop them and BOOM there muti system sellers... Xbox 1 can shove it up there A$$ with there exclusives. If I was to buy an Xbox 1 it would be at yard sale in the junk box for $5 bucks... Hell they might pay ME to take it from them.

AngelicIceDiamond2010d ago (Edited 2010d ago )

Xbox is bad terrible, they lost, anti this, anti that, Sony wins by default blah, blah blah whatever.

Good god its getting old....

All these posts are just filled the same stuff over and over and over and over and over again(annoying right?).

Just don't buy the stupid console boycott it whatever. Instead of parroting the same stuff over and over and over again. This goes for eeeeverybody here.

Good lord its giving me a headache.

EDIT: @Nuts You know what I mean. I'm sick and tired of everyone saying the same thing all the time in EVERY SINGLE article every second.

In the Forza article or in the article where Xbox 360 is suppose to have a huge game coming for it, its the same people spouting the same stuff.

It doesn't help that people on this site already don't like MS to begin with.

Its damn near impossible to properly speculate anything in MS related articles without all the parroting. Listen, literally the only thing that bothers me is the no offline play that's killer, absolutely killer, a deal breaker. That's one MS has to change because internet isn't perfect. I get it, I don't like what MS is doing either.

If MS brings some crazy games I personally won't be able to contain my excitement for the console it will be hard.

You don't hear me saying Anti, this, that Sony wins its too late for MS blah, blah just don't buy it at launch and stop complaining. Again this goes for everyone.

Now what exactly am I defending?

Mr_Nuts2010d ago

Angelic, you do the same thing by trying to defend them and then saying your sick of peoples posts all the time. A little

MoonGazing2010d ago

Nope they pretty much blew it i live in NYC and i have bummy TWC as my internet provider and i cannot tell you how many times they F'ed up my internet.Ive had to wait 2-3 days for them to fix it each time so the 24hour check in is a definite NO.

Testfire2010d ago

"E3 is their last chance"

Really? The direction of the brand has already been set, that's not going to change. It doesn't matter what shiny, new games they show, their policies have already been laid out for us to see. It's game over for them in my mind.

ginsunuva2010d ago

E3 last chance? I don't know how they're gonna reverse the confirmed stuff.

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RandomDude6552010d ago (Edited 2010d ago )

Without a tv tv tv tv sports tv tv tv tv tv dog

It was worse than Sony 2006, but at least Sony was showing games. Don't think they can recover.

Edit: and it wasn't just the reveal...they've been going down that path for the last couple years. All the people that cared about gaming left the xbox division

shuuwai2010d ago (Edited 2010d ago )

And little fishes.
Serial key, it's a 50/50. I may try to look the other way. DRM. I hated EA for doing that to the simcity.
Example: waiting 25 minutes to reconnect. The best part is waiting another 25 minutes if it fail to log the user in their crap servers, reason being it's full. I could see server crash day one on x1, it happen blizzard, EA, Ubisoft. History will repeat itself on X1.

Golden302010d ago

its.... tv tv tv tv sports sports tv tv tv forza5 breakdown tv tv tv tv dog dog dog
to be exactly

FrigidDARKNESS2011d ago

Another insecure fanboy thread and article that has no merit at ll.

LostDjinn2011d ago (Edited 2011d ago )

The article is from a tech site that has nothing to do with videogames. They're simply advising their readers on MSs' policies regarding XBOne as stated by MS.

It's not a smear using grey language like MS "could", "may", "might" or anything of the sort to imply guilt on MSs' behalf (as there is no lack of proof and as such no requirement for the author get creative when writing it). No, this is just an explanation of a straight up set of quotes from MS.

How does that make this piece "Another insecure fanboy" anything? It also decimates your argument that this piece "has no merit at ll" (I'll assume you mean all here shall I?).

Tell you what Frigid. I'll just leave this here http://dictionary.reference... with some friendly advice that you seek help. The impact this is having on you isn't healthy.

Wintersun6162011d ago (Edited 2011d ago )

What a strong counter argument against the article you got there pal. Good job!


mario192010d ago

Frigid, go home, your drunk

Bigpappy2010d ago

If these guys are so paranoid now, what will happen when all games go Digital Downloaded. Who will they resell those and lend them to friends. Before this coming gen is finished, most games will be downloaded. M$ actually has a policy that allows for games to be shared and traded on Xbox 1. That same policy could be applied to downloaded games.

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Excalibur2011d ago (Edited 2011d ago )

Since May 21 and beyond every time M$ opens their mouths I cringe more and become less and less interested in their vision of Next Gen.

At this point I don't care if they announce 100 Kinect free exclusives at E3, I'm just not interested.

-Mika-2011d ago

No, gamers overreacting to MS policies is what ruining the Xbox one.

KillrateOmega2011d ago (Edited 2011d ago )

No. What's been ruining the Xbox brand as of late has been MS's poor decisions in regards to the handling of the One.

It's nobody's fault, but their own.

V0LT2010d ago (Edited 2010d ago )

Overreacting? LOL! With these polices why should anyone buy this console? They should lease it to customers since you don't own anything you do with it let alone use it offline.

pr0t0typeknuckles2010d ago

overreacting,to used used game BS,and DRM,and system thats destined to become a useless brick with games that will eventually become coasters after the servers go offline,yeah your right were all overreacting,we have nothing to be mad about,gosh your so smart

mario192010d ago (Edited 2010d ago )

Mika oh, I think you meant to say under reacting. It's okay though we understand

On a more serious note, it is really great that people are actually doing something about this

Majin-vegeta2010d ago

Man i wish i could just write everything.I wanna say but I dont wanna get banned.

Mr_Nuts2010d ago

Ha I know right...i mean we have to censor our bad language because they think under age kids will see it LOL

MysticStrummer2010d ago

Yup. You can lose bubbles and be marked a troll by telling the truth around here if the right people get their panties in a wad.

N4G for ya.

Karpetburnz2010d ago

Well if you can't express your hate for Microsoft, instead, express your love for Sony, that's what I do.

Thank you Sony for listening and caring for us, you are our last hope in a dark time and you never let us down, love to learn and learn to love the Playstation way, our saviour, our legend, our Sony.

God bless you Sony.

gano2010d ago

Gotdammit n4g.
Now you got to limit the great prince vegeta.
Bring back the open zone so he can show his true power.
Will it be over 9000?

Why o why2010d ago

Trus me. Im not even trying to lose bubbles on that ****** *** ***** ****** **** * * ** ****, not even

Anyway their console is now less of a viable purchase but it wont be ruined for some and thats fair enough for them. Many are 'jumping ship' whilst many perceive those who are sticking with the x1 as those 'going down with the ship' ... e3 or bust for me me personally. Ms aren't bereft of a few tricks and not all of them are negative so we'll see

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