PS4 takes the top spot on Amazon.de's Bestseller in Games. You can pre-order it here. The €599 ($772) price tag is most likely just a place-holder though, the same exact price that Xbox One was given a few days ago.
I'm guessing budget model $399 - hardcore model with bells and whistles $499.
399,- Euro seems possible in dollars would be stretching it tough. 499,- for full blown edition would be cool but i'll probably opt for cheaper one and add in a SSD at later date to really make the system fly.. i'm hopping that replacing hard drives is still possible on ps4 as is with ps3..
They'll go for $499. I'll even bet my left nut on it. They've already said they're not going to announce a $599 pricepoint. They won't announce $399 either since that 8GB GDDR5 and all that custom tech doesn't come cheap. It's a safe bet that they'll announce a $499 price for PS4 this E3. It's not too expensive. People will buy it.
499,- dollars would be 386.55 euro. so whats your point? lolz that's exactly what i'm saying it's going to be killer at that price point for sure!
competitively priced, world wide release, a ton of games ready to go on day one. this will not be a repeat of 2006. 37 games announced so far for PS4 for launch and we're still not done yet, we'll see more at E3!! :D http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
Lol I was also thinking of putting an SSD in my PS4 x) But if they do make a low model and a full model it will all come to down to the small extras. If theirs more USB ports on the pricey one then I won’t have a choice. I really hate having only 2 USB ports on my PS3 slimer. The HDD it comes with won’t really affect my decision due to my SSD craving lol. Just not sure what size of HDD ill get yet. I may install my games just to boast loading times. The PS4 will have a 6x BluRay witch is enough, but maybe not enough. FU**KING 12DAYS TILL E3 lolll cant WAIT
@sengoku If it's priced at $499 in North-America it's going to be priced at €499 here in Europe.
That price isn't right. I'll pre-order mine on June 11th cause I want a bundle with a game not just the console and they're gonna announce all their bundles at their press conference
"PS4 takes top spot on Amazon – Pre-order for EUR 599,00" 599€, way to expensive for me. I'll wait till 350-400€ if i decide to get a PS4.
It still baffles me how people will pay over €600 for a phone but think that price is way to expensive for a console. I bought my PS3 day one for over €600. I have used it nearly everyday since then. Probably the best investment I have made in a long time in terms of how much I use it vs cost.
@asmith - I feel the exact same way, for what I got with my PS 3 out of the box, I've never felt short changed by the console. But for true market adoption, its not consumers like me and you they are trying to capture as fermcr points out. They're are still some who feel that's way too much for a games console. For all the people who don't read N4G or other gaming websites, they wont know the panning the X-Box One has been taking. So if that comes in at £100 less, with COD timed exclusivity, the PS 4 still has some work to do.I'm sold though. Why Sony don't offer the pre order themselves and cash in on some of the people willing to spend just now i'll never know
I would never give 600€ for a smartphone, unless i was rich. My smartphone cost 149€. Has android and does everything the most expensive ones do, just a bit slower :) Just like i would never give 600€ for a console.
'It still baffles me how people will pay over €600 for a phone but think that price is way to expensive for a console.' The price is too expensive for a phone or a console. If you think the ps3 was worth €600 that's fine. Personally I thought it was a rip off and waited until I could get one cheaper, which I did do. I got my ps3, my old 80gb phat, for under £150 a couple of years later. Was probably the best decision seeing as the ps3 didn't get any decent games until a couple of years after anyway. €600? That's a joke of a price.
@asmith2306 Those people arent many, and alot of those phones are sold with a subscription which makes the price of the phone lower, tho maybe not in the long run when you factor in sunscript cost. But it's easier for people to grasp, rather than having to pull up 600€ here and now.
It sucks we can't pre-order in NA Amazon. Now I can't wait to E3 to see what it the two bundles (if we get it)comes with.
not bad im going for it
Well... Yeah. It's EU lol. That's PS territory there.
So what is Xbox territory...Just N. America?? 'Cos if that's true, N. America alone is not enough. MS needs all territories to get behind their platform. Granted, Japan is lost to MS, but don't assume consumers in the EU only support the PS brand. Here in the UK, Xbox 360 is/was leading PS3 in sales. I believe it's only in the last 12-18 months PS3 has began dominating, and that's because Sony have been more consistent. *Edit* Yup, I read what you said properly this time..I hate when peeps put words in my mouth on here too, so apologies and my bad Snookies12....are you interested in XB1 or PS4 or neither at this point?
I didn't say EU people only supported PS, I'm saying that's the PlayStation's biggest territory. :] Essentially yes, Xbox has N. America. That's pretty much all they seem to focus on. EDIT: It's okay, no worries! Honestly, I didn't care for Microsoft's reveal. So, I'll be waiting for E3 to give them another chance before considering anything. I'm worried they're not as focused on games as they should be. Which is why I want to wait and see. (Although I'm hoping for a 360 price cut, as I'd like to pick another one up soon.) As for Sony, I really liked what they had to show and tell at their reveal. It gave some good insight as to what to expect with the PS4. So, I'm leaning that route for sure. I just once again, want to wait for E3 to place a pre-order on anything. We'll see how it goes. :]
Xbox/MS has North America and UK, albeit Sony/PS isn't weak in those territories. It's MS sell almost twice as much. In rest of Europe, Sony has very strong brand power combined that with Japan which MS is non-existant. That is why the numbers are very even overall. What is interesting is that Nintendo typically is strong in all regions.
Ya know...with all the negativity towards MS right now, it wouldn't be a bad idea for Sony to officially open up pre-orders. But I guess then they'd have to give a price, and that would probably be a bad idea before E3.
In the UK and Ireland you can preorder at GameStop already since February.
In the UK, Asda, Tesco, Game, all are taking pre-orders as well.
Yeah but why aren't Sony doing this themselves. Don't stop Gamestop from doing their own pre order system, but surely there's money to be made from a couple of million fans wanting to stick £10 down as a pre order. The interest on it alone would be worth doing. If it wasn't worth doing financially, do you think Gamestop would still do it?
Xtra vision have been taking orders on both the next gen consoles since January. A friend of mine here says he has ordered his ps4 from the Sony website too
Yeah, here in the US GameStop doesn't take pre-orders until they have an official price on console hardware. At least that's what I've been told. I think I was talking more about announcing retailers could do it now officially, just to get people locked in.
In the UK you can pre-order it for a deposit of £20. They should have done something like that worldwide since feb 20th
All the PS4 and X1 games are also listed at 99 EUR (around ~$130). Obviously place holders.
True. If you order something and it retails for cheaper than you paid you are entitled to the rest of it back in some form. However there are certain laws that if you order and it is more expensive than you were originally given a price for you are entitled to the cheaper price. This is just a safe bet for Amazon to prevent this I recon
i willing to pay up to 600$ only if PS4 have no DRM
499 Euro's seems expensive...This is NOT the official price... PS4 will more than likely cost £329 entry level, and £399 for deluxe. No way are games 99 euros....LMFAO!! Remember Sony said they will not make the same high price mistakes as PS3...that was £429 in UK for 60GB model, so it's entirely realistic it will be around the price I suggested. *My budget is £500 and that MUST include at least 2 games and extra controller, or no deal until a price cut!
Sweet,buying day 1
Wonder why this isn't up for preorder yet here in the states? I'm guess 449 - 499 and hoping only 1 sku.
I'll be buying the premium version on day one without hesitation.........I paid $1000.00au for my launch PS3, overly expensive for us Aussies, but that's life, & it's only money & you can't take it with you, so faaark it... The only thing I hope is that it releases in Australia before Christmas. Even if there are very limited machines available, as I'll pre-order, as soon as possible anyhow. I just hope that Sony recognize us little countries, that have heavily supported them for years, & give back with a proper WORLDWIDE release, as I'm pretty sure Australia are part of the WORLD..... Not only that, Sony really need to look after Europe, even before the America's, as we know that the America's is ALWAYS going to support the home team & buy MS consoles before Sony's, that is just a given. But, Europe is very much Sony's territory, & was even moreso before they released PS3 well after Jpn & US, & also inflated the price, for no other apparent reason, other than simply because they could. Fact is, Sony lost a fair chunk of support across most of Europe (like UK for example), but, fact is, that they could win back a fair chunk, as well as making a big splash in America, if they give us ALL a release this year, & for a fair price, along with some nice exclusives, such as Killzone, infamous, Driveclub, Knack, along with some other exclusives, & some awesome 3rd party games, such as Watchdogs. They actually have the potential to truly have THE BEST launch lineup of games in the history of console launches. I mean, with 7 or 8 more launch window games announcements, of similar quality levels, to what has already been announced, then they will be well on track. I really hope Killzone & infamous are not rushed, & are made well, with decent length campaigns, & in Killzone's case, awesome, lag free online multiplayer, as I am really looking forward to both games, as well as Driveclub (although, I would have far preferred a new Motorstorm).
I'm American, and the home team can suck it.
A man is in the same boat, but a man would remind everyone that PS2 dominated Xbox One (the first one) here in the states. A man thinks PS4 could make it much closer than the current gen given how many Xbox fans were impressed with PS4's showing and...less impressed to say the least on the 21st.
I too paid $1000 in Australia at launch from EB games i didnt have enough money for games tho lol , but i did have my ps3 paid off about year before it launched because of how many delays we put up with , im pretty sure it was on the way to 2 years late. I pray to all that is good in this world that Australia doesnt get stuck waiting again i just need a ps4 *fingers crossed* @Adolph fitler you can preorder the ps4 at eb games already i have had $500 on it for about 2 months or so now.
PS4 or XBONE ...... hate these difficult lifestyle choices.
A man thought MS made this easy for everyone to know that they needed PS4 a lot more
Oh, and a Australian launch price of around $649 for smaller HDD version, & $749 for deluxe, bigger hdd version would be smart & fairer of Sony, than that $999au that PS3 launched here for. At least, when I've handed over my $749, I can buy 2 launch games & still be $50 richer than I was when PS3 launched.....although, I'd be more in front of that, as I bought 3 games at PS3 launch, so it ran me up to $1,200-$1,300.
Had my PS4 pre-ordered since February
HOW MUCH!! Sony could dominate this gen if they price the PS4 right!!
sorry but no PS4 for me.If the price is correct i'll buy it when it drops to 400 euros.
it could be 400 Euros at launch
£349.99 Sterling. $449.99 Euros. $449.00 US Dollops.
mmmm dollops *dribble*
£399 at the very least for ps4
People pay £500+ for mobile phones, Yearly. If people think a £349.99 Next-gen console is out of affordability, a long look in the mirror is needed! That's around the price I was guessing it would come by, I'll buy one for myself at launch, and one for a Christmas present :)
That's totally how I'm thinking. Other people might say now that they use their mobile phones much more often and for many more things, but that's a little bit hypocritical imho. People also pay 10€ to eat at Mc Donald's, waste enough money for their designer clothes, spent hundres of dollars for styling, cigarettes, partying and, well, you get the point and are able to think of other examples. So 400 or 500€ wouldn't be that bad for a device that you use quite often and that you'll have for more than 4 years. That's why I wasn'T complaining about the 599€ for the PS3. (Well, that and because I got it for 20% off at a Sunday opening two days after it came out, but that's not the point I'm trying to make here)
A lot of the most expensive phones are sold on contract payment plans though. That makes a world of a difference because you don't need to be able to afford it all up front
However many hardware stores offer you an installment payment at a zero percentage rate, that's pretty much the same to me. Edit.: And if people can't afford it all up front they should relearn how to lay money aside, but in today's society we want everything NOW and CHEAP.
The only items you can get on finance in my area are televisions, so that's not an option here. I fail to see your point on people wanting items cheaper. Of course they will its in their best interest, don't mistake the poor economy for a cheap "society" next gen consoles are a luxury not a necessity so if people refuse to buy it a high premium that's not because they are all cheap Obviously some will prove to be exceptions ;)
No the problem that I see is that people want to get stuff even if the cannot afford it right away. They no longer want to safe for something when it's already available. That's kind of sad.
You should know that for hardware the price in EUR is the same as the price in USD, so it's more like 599USD for the pre-order as well. Consoles are much more expensive over here, at least you know how much we had to pay for the PS3. And the Americans were pissed because of the infamous 599 US dollars...
We paid 620 Euro for the PS3 when it came out, that's probably close to 800 dollars.
I know, I'm European as well, and even though that would be the correct equivalent in USD, as you know the just swap the $ with the € sign, so in the end they pay less in the US. But to say that it will be at around 770$ in the US is wrong, because if you swap the currency sign it would still be 599 USD. Who cares though, it's for pre-order and they even say that the price is not final (obviously) at Amazon.de and people do expect it to be cheaper, because it will be and Sony confiremd that afaik.
The night of launch I paid 800e for my ps3 with 2games a 2nd controller and hdmi. Never once did I regret it! Alas the leap between generations this time around wont be as substantial from the offset so I wouldn't be doing it this time. Sony's 10 year life cycle and continued support for the ps3 has to be both a curse and blessing for them ha
the price is just a placeholder. thats what it says in the article, its the same price xbox one was posted at.
So getting one when it launches later this year... My wallet is READY!!
Interesting...looks like PS4 and X1 are 1 & 2 on Amazon. The fight for Europe should be intense. http://www.amazon.de/gp/bes...
people like myself paid a lot of money for the ps3 when it arrived. i like gaming and ps3 but it was a time that i had a job and i could afford that money. now i don't have a job so i can't afford more than 400-450 euros. at the time i am working but for another month. i will be without job again! no job no money. no money no ps4!
The numbers some of you guys are tossing out in regards to what you are willing to pay are surprising to me to say the least. I understand a hardcore gaming enthusiast is willing to pay the price of admission no matter how high, but it will take a hell of a lot of you guys to make a system costing $4-500 a success.
TechnicianTed + 4h ago I got my ps3, my old 80gb phat, for under £150 a couple of years later. Was probably the best decision seeing as the ps3 didn't get any decent games until a couple of years after anyway. ----------------------------- --------------- I respect your opinion about not wanting to pay 600$/€ for a games console or a phone, but I have to strongly disagree with you when you say there wasn't anything worthwile on the PS3 for the first couple of years. The PS3 actually had one of the best launch lineup in history, with games like Resistance Fall of man, Motorstorm, Marvel Ultimate Alliance, Call of Duty 3, Fight Night round 3, Virtua Fighter 5 and more. And during the same year, or just a few months later, we already had games like Warhawk, Uncharted Drake's Fortune, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet & Clank tools of destruction, etc. all released within the next 12 months or so after the date the PS3 was released in Japan (early Nov. 2006 if my memory serves me right) Let's be honest with this now, the "PS3 haz no gaamez!" mantra was entirely built up by the biased media and fanboys who completely distorted reality. The PS3 DID have great games from the get-go. :)
599 Euros bloomin eck! You can bet your house then that the PS4 will cost £500-600 in the UK if Amazons prices are anything to go by lol only joking! Hehe! I hope Sony charge max £349-399 or they'll be facing pricing issues similar to those seen when PS4 launched.
ps4 on top.