Is this why Sony and Microsoft might not care so much about offline gamers

The numbers of those with the Internet could speak volumes about why the offline gamer isn't so important in the future.

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JokesOnYou3472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

I remember saying this before....internet access for year 2012:

UK -83.6%
Germany -83%
Japan -79.5%
US -78.1%

"The figures don’t lie and what’s probably reason enough to drop non connected households is the fact that in the biggest gaming countries, there are more people with Internet connections than those without."

-Whats even more telling is that the numbers are likely much, much higher among those who already own a 360 or ps3. So the idea that micro will lose a substantial amount of its fanbase due to needing internet connectivity once every 24hrs is silly. Also they've said they are working on other offline options for the authentification code in absence of internet capability like for the military for example. Again its unfortunate that a small minority may get left out but the reality is that technology will continue to advance regardless if some can't afford it.

Jek_Porkins3472d ago

I guess it's progress, I still remember the original Xbox only came with a high speed modem, and at the time I was used to gaming with dial up, and I was outraged at the time, but once I got high speed internet I changed my tune.

Also, it's not like you cant play the game if you drop connection on Xbox One. If online truly improves the gaming experience, I'm okay with it. As long as you can still play the games if your internet drops completely, which sounds like the case.

McScroggz3472d ago

"Also, it's not like you cant play the game if you drop connection on Xbox One."

Actually according to Microsoft the Xbox One will do an online check at least once every 24 hours, so you DO need an internet connect. You cannot play the Xbox One without it.

JokesOnYou3472d ago

Well as I said there are reports micro are working on some type of offline option. So any definitive statements about what you will or won't need is premature.

Imalwaysright3472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

Even if those statements were made by MS employees? Are those statements to be treated as rumours? I think not. If MS does come with a different tune at E3 it will definetely be because of the well deserved backlash they got from gamers around the World.

Muerte24943471d ago

in with Microsoft.

"Shuhei Yoshida: Oh yes, yes, you can go offline totally. Social is big for us, but we understand there are some people who are anti-social! So if you don't want to connect to anyone else, you can do that."

Sony hasn't forgot about the people in part of the world where internet just isn't an option. Should they just be ignored? These are the people less likely to trade in their games because they'd probably have more replay value to them.

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HammadTheBeast3472d ago

It doesn't matter, the problem is WHY IS THIS EVEN NEEDED?

It's plain greed now, this generation has gone by without this BS why can't the next?

Sure, we can pull that chart up, but just think of the thousands of rational circumstances that can lead to not being able to even ACCESS THE SINGLE PLAYER OF A GAME YOU PAID FOR!

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney3472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

"The main reason being that many countries don't have robust Internet connections. It makes sense for people to have Internet connections to play online games, but for offline games there are many countries that we saw [that] do not really have robust Internet." - Shuhei Yoshida(sony)

kneon3472d ago

No in fact they are much lower, last years survey showed something like 65% of PS3's were connected and even fewer 360's were connected.

You are making the incorrect assumption that because people have internet that they connect all their consoles, they don't.

3-4-53471d ago

They want us always to be connected to a bunch of people we don't know for stupid little bragging rights features that are douchey.

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KingKelloggTheWH3472d ago

The PS4 allows offline play.So yeah.

Arai3472d ago

Pretty much ^

Europe, US & Japan = not world.
Sony has been active in developing countries for a good reason, there's a lot of growth and gain in those regions.

jeffgoldwin3472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

Except the fatal flaw in your sony offline theory is that sony has not officially announced their used game policy, nor their online policies.

We only have their past practices (which is positive) and rumors at this point in time.

HammadTheBeast3472d ago

No, the major Playstation heads have expressed negativity towards "anti-consumer" behaviour.

jeffgoldwin3472d ago

You can express all you want, doesn't make it reality until confirmed.

I can express I want a supermodel girlfriend.

KingKelloggTheWH3472d ago
The ps4 plays used games.
People need to look this stuff up.

Corpser3471d ago

Yoshida said online activation can be "up to the publisher" to implement, now how can that be implemented if ps4 can be never online?

rainslacker3471d ago

Because if, I guess I'll call it a standard, of the system is that it can play games offline, then Sony expects publishers to follow it's guidelines that the game must be playable offline for everyone who owns the system, regardless of their internet connection. Sony controls what content can be put on the system, so it's within their rights to do this, just like all console manufacturers.

Now, if a game is wholly an online game, or has MP, then it's possible to lock that stuff out based on the fact it has to be connected to work, in which case, online registration would amount to a digital online-pass.

It's feasible that SP content could be locked out because of this if a MP component exists in the game, but Sony tends to be pretty stringent in these rules, and doesn't leave room for interpretation. To them they would want to be able to sell the game to as many people as possible, which means keeping SP offline.

The only thing that throws a kink in this is the "we're leaving it up to the publisher" remark. In which case, it is possible that they have implemented something where publishers can decide to restrict their game through online registration. Whether that's true and whether that applies to the whole game, or just the MP remains to be seen. Either way, it just means that if a publisher decides to restrict it, then it wouldn't work on unconnected consoles.

ziggurcat3472d ago

except you can use your PS4 completely offline, so....

badkolo3472d ago

but you most likely wont, all of a sudden you all forgot about multiplayer online games. just cause a few wont go online the majority will, the crying will eventually stop when you all grow up. get with the future guys, your all starting to sound like a bunch of 50 year old paranoid men

fattyuk3472d ago


What on earth are you banging on about?

SexyGamerDude3471d ago (Edited 3471d ago )

"But you most likely won't"

"The majority will"

Just like the majority of PC games require you to always be online?

Get real. Just because the option is there doesn't mean everybody will want to use it.

rainslacker3471d ago (Edited 3471d ago )

The number of games coming out with multiplayer is declining.

According to NPD though, 72% of gamers play some form of online game. This data is spread out across all platforms and devices, and all types of games, so it's not to say 72% play console games fact MS own numbers don't add up to that as only roughly half their install base has a live account, and actual gold member numbers are unknown. It also disregards the frequency with which people go online. For instance, I play MP maybe once every 3-4 months, but don't invest a lot of time in it.

I'm afraid MP gaming, or using the system to go online is still not as ubiquitous as this article makes it out to be. It leaves out important data, which is weird because I found it quite easily. It also ignores quite a bit of the people that actually do not touch online at all, not a number worth ignoring, although can't find anything specific.

McScroggz3472d ago

Am I missing something? In what way does Sony not care about those without internet? Please don't lump them in with Microsoft just because they are both releasing new consoles this year.

mandf3472d ago

Just a way to lump Sony into a negative situation

bunt-custardly3472d ago

Disagreed with you both for the mere reason that Sony has invested heavily in Online already with its PSN and PSplus. Its acquisition of Gakai for $380 million. Sure the pS4 can play offline, but that's not really what's being discussed here. The focus from both companies is Online users.

mandf3472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

Hey bunt

A console sale is money on or off line. Sony sells to many regions of the world that MS doesn't. Some of those countries don't have internet. Should Sony just give up the money and sales of those places because they don't have internet? Your line of thinking is off. I didn't mention the amount of money off the games offline buyers spend. Get real internet isn't everything for gaming.

Edit Only less than a third of american households have internet. You don't limit a product and hurt your target market.

Rageanitus3472d ago

If MS or Sony wants to apply online DRM, they should honestly really apply the Blizzard approach found in Starcraft 2.
Login ONCE in a while to reregister.

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