If you’re a gamer, you’re probably aware of the controversy that surrounded Nintendo about their latest policy update. While this is 'legal', the question remains: is it fair to Nintendo's fans?
its there games and letplayers are making money off of other people games i say its fair
I disagree, certainly not all of them but many LPers put a lot of time and effort into creating informative and entertaining vids, so they deserve the ad revenue IMO. It's no different from independent film critics that show movie footage and game magazines that show screen shots, I can understand why Nintendo are doing this but I still feel they are in the wrong here, if anything LP's increase the chance of a game being sold because consumers can get a good feel for whether they actually like and will enjoy a game or not.
Lets play Turok Seeds of Evil on youtube is equivalent to; lets watch the Dark Knight on youtube.
It isn't called lets review, what Nintendo is doing is fair, when movies want to use certain references they have to pay whoever the IP belongs to, even if it is free advertising.
Not Really the same is it?? I couldn't download a video of Turok and enjoy it how it's ment to be....physically played could I?
It doesnt matter if its fair or not. Nintendo is shooting themselves in the foot with this. Youtube videos are basically free advertising. These LPers have a fanbase and if they put up a game from Nintendos system, those fans may potentially want to play them. I have some Youtube stars that I trust and if they recommend a game, I will probably try it.
I don't think they're necessarily in the WRONG, but I do find it a little ridiculous and greedy of them. "Let's play" videos are by and large just a means of enjoying and spreading the community of gaming and in many ways they strengthen the fanbase for many franchises. I would be surprised if anyone out there felt like they had fully experienced any of these games after watching a simple video of them. So Nintendo trying to squeeze a few "legal-action-bucks" out of their fans seems slightly scummy to me.
It's totally legal for Nintendo to do this. Maybe they see a future that is much more profitable than we anticipate?
As long as a person adds commentary to it, it should be considered fair use...it is a kick in the sack to the people that make it their own creative work. If it is just raw gameplay with nothing added to it, then Nintendo has every right
Adding a commentary doesn't make it fall under fair use. The original content is still under the copyright domain of the holder of that copyright. The only thing the commenter has that is theirs is the commentary itself. By your reasoning, If you took rifftrax, and they put their audio tracks directly onto a stream, they could play that movie over the stream for a small price and people could watch the movie. Since they can't do that because they don't own the content of the film, they just release audio tracks and expect the end user to provide the legally purchased media. A more appropriate example would be, a person could theoretically add a screen filter to any game and redistribute it for any charge they see fit, giving nothing back to the original creator. I'm not commenting on the morality or idiocy of Nintendo doing all this, just that it doesn't fall under fair use.
better than making money off used game sales :P
I'm not for it or against it. Nintendo does after all have the right to do this...
These youtube vids as free marketing for games. It's usually a great way to find out about cool indie games. If many youtubers are now demotivated to publish Nintendo game footage, then I don't really see it as a positive move for Nintendo. But maybe there is method to their madness, who knows...
it's short term thinking. they just want to make money off these videos without thinking about what it means long term. they won't make tons of money off this, people will just stop doing let's plays with Nintendo games. and a potentially huge and free marketing resource will disappear for Nintendo. it's their legal right, sure, but the i believe the worth of the LP community as a marketing tool far outweighs the potential profits they could make by claiming all revenue off these videos.
it's completely fair. if you don't think so then be sure to read the copyright info that is included in every game that is so. "for private home use and rental in the us and mexico" if you are in the us. and to everyone saying its not the same as playing it, explain it to a writer when someone reads their book and posts audo of it online. should the reader have the rights to the profits? or the person that wrote the book? over the internet people seem to think they have rights where they do not. could I run a store and sell off brand halo shirts and not get in trouble?
So let me get this strait. I create a game and you decide without asking it's ok to create a video of the game and get paid off of my work without even contacting me first? It's not like people are uploading a video and receiving no revenue. Who on here can honestly say that they want someone to profit off of their hard earned work. Also why aren't these people reaching out to Nintendo first and asking if it's OK. Per youtube that's something that should have been done anything else is a lack of respect. If you still think it's unfair then why not create a video and take no profit at all. People are doing these videos for revenue no matter how big or small. If it's me I am contacting Nintendo and offering free marketing all they have to do is let me keep the proceeds from whatever I make.
people watch lets plays so they dont have to buy or play the game. guy watching lets plays thinking. 1. i want to play fallout 2. hmm let me look at the lets play footage 3. cool i can watch the whole thing and experience it without even playing or buying the game. 4. this means i can be in conversations on message boards about the game! 5. i talk about games instead of playing and buying them im a lazy arse 6. this is so easy to watch the lets play dont even need to think or sit straight up on the couch. i can actually lay down and just watch the game unfold. 7. why buy it when i already seen the whole thing 8. ill just watch lets plays from now on because im scared to fail in games and its so much easier. people dont watch for the persons playing talk. if you want to hear someone talk then listen to podcasts. the game is the only thing that matters to the people watching lets plays. you shouldnt be waching lets plays especially if you dont own the game. i bet 100% of the people who watch them dont buy the game after they finish it and 99% dont even own the game in the first place. lets plays actually stop people from gaming. why dont they have lets watch old star trek tv eps that are on youtube with commentary? physically playing the game isnt all that is gaming. theres stoy, cutscenes, the world, etc. you doing it and someone else doing it is the same thing essentially only a small percentage difference and in some cases people actually find advantages in the experience watching someone else play. nintendo deserves the money emo. it comes down to this people watch football and or sports and wont play them because they are not good at them or because they dont have to they can watch them. decrease the number of lets plays and people will have to start playing instead of watching. that means buying the games.
While that is true lets plays can put people off from a game that's not the complete truth. I watch lets plays all the time to see people's reaction to games I have or haven't bought. To see gameplay if I was unsure of it before and some for pure entertainment. Same with twitch tv, I go there and watch games I have of haven't bought. Find the right stream and you get a good community who converses about the game or gaming in general. I've watched games I was sure if I'd like the gameplay to see if I would. Seeing someone's reaction live is nice especially when they're a vocal streamer that is nice to the viewers. I've also played online with streamers while they were streaming. Lets play can also be a way for people of newer generations to see old games they've never played like the classic castlevania games, einhander, ff1-9, other nes, snes, 64, ps1 games that get over looked or mostly forgotten. Sure it has its negative but it also is positive. I've see more people come into a Catherine stream and buy it the next day than not. I've also seen people decide not to buy dishonored because its an awful game. Should Nintendo take money for people playing their games...sure it's their property but I think it should only be games still sold in stores. That's my thoughts though.
@TwistedMetal completly agree after spoiling the game most people dont even want to play the game afterwards they just watch it for the story rather than playing it plus their free to do so as long they have internet conection. Nintendo as the right to monetize on those videos its their property.
This has no potiental to nintendo when the LP community can just drop it and call it a day for enternity that is.
That´s what Nintendo wants in the end its more convincing buying a game that you cant know much about. Lets Plays just spoil the experience for the viewer because it shows the whole game. In my opnion Let´s Plays on recent games should only be allowed/uploaded a year after release and during that year only 10-15 minutes of gameplay footage could be shown.
do it for the love of the game or don't do it at all, don't see why these freaks on You tube need paid for it, and don't give me that shit about they put time and effort into it, that's down to them, and all these weirdos on you tube crying about this, yet its OK for them make money off Nintendo, but when Nintendo try and do it back O MFG THERE IS AND OUTRAGE and NO Nintendo did not ask you to do free marketing for them, they can do that themselves
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