Is Microsoft's Xbox One doomed to fail because of the reactions from the Xbox Reveal? Why is Microsoft focusing so much on the 'Entertainment Box' instead of focusing on gamer's?
Title is totally flamebait. Video makes sense tho.
Flamebait? Getting the very strong impression he's defending them. Saying gamers are in the minority on the 360. Which wouldn't have anything to do with them focusing on multiplayer. And the BS about privacy? Let it happen because its already happening? The presentation failed because it was so shallow. It not only didn't go into games it didn't go into any real technical details.
it was never about that... here is another way to look at it... from the game journalist prospective... that's 1 less hour they have to site at the Microsoft E3 press event listening to things that have nothing to do with games at the biggest games conference.
And come the big game conference they're going to talk about the Halo TV series. And their media channels. And they're going to go into further detail on how much better Kinect 2.0 is when they should have done in the presentation prior.
Godmars, is that what MS is going to do or that is what you wished MS is going to do at their E3 conference? Fanboys always amazed me with the things that are coming out of their mouths. You could be right but if you are wrong then there is a big crow burger waiting for you. The hatred for one company is unbelievable here.
@GamingWorldPeace: Does that mean you're amazed with yourself? Or at the very least do you think they aren't going to go to show a teaser for the Halo series? Have something with kinect on stage at E3? That's the true mark of fanboyism: let someone who doesn't think as you do bring up something commonly expected, like a segment from a sizzle reel or a live stage demo and its only an attack on the system you support. The guy in the video said its no big deal to let a company put a camera in your home because the government already has one on most street corners, and all you and others can do is defend such as asinine stance as if its the exact same thing. Like there is no difference whatsoever between a civil authorities actions which has checks an balances to see that its not abused - no matter how watered down that's become post 9/11 - and a company's "trust us". But you are right - Its so sad what comes out of fanboy's mouths.
It will sell to who wants a TV box. Gamers, probably not so much.
Turn about is fair play. this is payback for all those doom and gloom articles that kept coming up day after day after day when all the Microsoft fans kept on bashing the PS3 and its fans. and don't act like it didn't happen, it you can't handle what y'all dished out earlier this gen don't bother complaining about it now. personally i won't be buying the system, but its safe to say no console is doomed to fail this new coming gen.
The trouble here is the hypocrisy that is running a muck.. When the PS3 went the all in one media route you guys were like YEEAAAHH. BUT the moment MS does the same with the Xbox One it is all doom and gloom and ohhhh poor old me they are forgetting me the gamer. One billion dollar investment in games let me repeat this ONE BILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT IN GAMES for all those that are bit slow to catch on. How is this forgetting their core market that they have built up since the very first Xbox. Go hit the disagrees, go tell how me how it is all BS or PR spin in respect of cloud processing. Go buy the PS4 if that is what you want no one is stopping you. But for me I might buy both yet next gen in my house will start with the X1 and nothing anyone here says is going to change that.
@ma1asiah first i didnt hit disagree, and second dont speak about hypocrisy running a muck since 360 fanboys ran a muck on PS3 and its fans, so now that the shoes on the other foot no one should complain period. as for them spending a billion of games big woop both nintendo and sony constantly spend money on games so this isnt surprising.
Unlike most of the stuff that got pushed around during the early days of this gen, and later, these reports are actually real news that should be discussed by gamers because it has an effect on all of us. It should also be discussed without the console wars being brought into it. I don't care who did what first. It's a chicken and egg argument, and it's very weak to just blame the other side.
It's not as much forgetting gamers as it is them wanting to make a profit on every front.
That along with the lack of privacy with the new kinect always being on. What if that shit gets hacked? We'll have a bunch of crazy muthfukas watching us and shit. It's not even that it's so bad that I don't want one, It's that I'm too creeped out about the new kinect. They could release 20 AAA exclusives, I'm talking rockstar, valve, and naughty dog quality, I STILL wouldn't buy it because of this. It's too creepy... This is going beyond "innovation". I'm personally not comfortable having a camera always on watching me in my home. Hopefully nobody supports this.
Do you guys worry about the lack of privacy, when you use a tablet or a laptop with a built in camera. You do realise that, that same camera watches everything you do while you are online just like the Kinect would.....what a bunch of paranoid idiots
Or maybe it has something to do with trying to make sure that if you buy the system you get more use out of it then just gaming. For real gamers they'll be playing their PS4's on their Xbox Ones while playing their Xbox One and looking up a Wiki on their PS4 game
For real gamers, they'll probably just turn on the system and play their games. From my own experience, and anecdotal data, most gamers do not multitask large numbers of media and social functions while playing their games. The game typically takes front and center attention for the real gamer.
most gamer? You've got some scientific study on that... perhaps the older generation of gamers may be less inclined to do so, but the younger are clearly doing many things while gaming
Kinda like releasing gt6 on ps3. Kinda like reducing activated systems down from 5 to 2 Kinda like forcing you to buy proprietary memory cards MS and Sony are both in this to make money so don't think one is less profit driven than the other in that regard.
You really HAVE just become an anti-Sony troll. How is GT6 relevant? It's the GT5 engine- built for PS3- so it makes sense for it to be on PS3. And they haven't ruled out a version for PS4, so... What does reducing systems have to do with it? In fact, it's really only for new systems/accounts. They didn't forcibly remove old systems, so if you had 5 PS3s connected(not including PSPs or Vitas) before the change, and you didn't deactivate any of the consoles, YOU STILL HAVE THEM. Who DOESN'T "force" you to buy proprietary memory cards? Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't EVERY manufacturer since the introduction of memory cards done that? Finally, it's the difference in how the two companies go about things... something you apparently lack the common sense- ironic, huh?- to understand. If you can't figure out why people say Sony seems to be all about the gamers, and why they don't say the same of Microsoft, you're in the wrong hobby.
I hate to admit it, but it won't fail. Casuals and Xbox loyalists will eat it up. The Xbox One WILL be successful, but I will not help it get there. It will not have my support.
That could be a possibility but how casual are we talking about? Angry birds casual or Wii casual or COD casual?
Everyone other than hardcore haters will support it once it has a nice library of games.. I mean, that's the most important thing, right?
Hardcore haters AND anyone that is aware of their rights as consumers.
Anyone who doesn't consider games the top priority, I guess.
Absolutely. There far more important things than games which to me are nothing more than hobbie. I refuse to bend over to support the greed of multi billion dollar companies and in the process lose my rights as a consumer over some games even if it is my main hobbie.
Time is the important thing. Letting ANYTHING prevent you from using it to do your favourite thing is 'bending over'.
Yeah you are right, My one friend is a huge xbox fanboy, and he's eating it all up. none of the DRM bothers him at all. If it has Halo, he wants it. /shrug Although I doubt the "one" has any real shot at winning the next gen over all, the TV gimmicks will work for a year or two, and then get old, and the only gamers they have are hardcore Fanboys and some casuals. All the policies and alienation will no doubt cause enough damage to guarentee they sell less then PS4. Sony really has nothing to worry about next gen, so long as they stay the course and keep the games coming. MS has halfway switched itself out of the gaming market.
M$ can put out whatever games they want.. It wont change all the problems about the console.. Plus hes got a COD shirt on & a poster.. Thats all i have to say
From a purely hardware perspective what are its problems, I mean really, what are they?
He said nothing about Xbone hardware.
Its not the hardware that is concerning, its the restrictions & extra fees microsoft are trying to pull off that is the main problem.
hardware is decent imo.. No problems there either.. Its the BS always on, the BS used fee, the BS kinect requirement, the BS full game installations, the BS not letting u use any headsets already owned, & their BS focus on entertainment as a whole instead of gaming.. All them resources used for a halo tv show couldve been used to make a new game..
Let's hope so. Gamers shouldn't stand for the crap they're trying to pull.
No company should ever get away with this & since microsoft is the only one trying to do it then I hope it fails for them. Dont want them to ruin the gaming industry because of their greed.
What do you mean? Xbox One appealed to gamers. The EA Sports gamers that buy Madden every year and get Call of Duty for Christmas. They count you know. P.S. Xbox Done. That's Hilarious
I doubt xbone is doomed to fail, but it may not as sell as well as 360. Maybe it will sell better. No idea. I know I'm getting PS4 for the better looking/running games and several exclusives.
Well I'd like to wait for E3 before saying it's abandoning gamer's, I mean if the games they show are great, and obviously they are spending a billion in games alone for Xbox One, not to mention it'll play virtually 90% of the same exact games as the PS4, so I think it's best to wait and see.
its not really the games.....its the wallet rape. its a xbox so games will come...that's a givin but I will not pay them then pay for their xbl (god knows how much they are going to charge for the TV bullshit) pay fee for buying/trading used games, micro transactions ect. then the always on shit. we as gamers shouldn't show support of these kind of business practices by not buying it...period. im skipping it and if ps4 pull this shit the ill be skipping It too. we need to fight this kind of bs and not let them run over us. we dont buy then they wont try this shit....simple
while i don't agree with people dumping on MS for not showing games at the reveal (since they clearly stated that they weren't going to), they should have spent a little less time focusing on TV because it clearly came across as though they had almost completely abandoned the gaming side of the system. they could have given a few more details on the specs, they could have given more information on the cloud functionality... anything, really. (and if you get disagrees, none of them came from me since i don't necessarily disagree with you here)
Forgetting 15 first party exclusives? To E3!
If they show gears of war 4 running...at e3, thou shall also buy xb1 along with my PS4.
Im not a CONSOLE GAMER and completely play on pc but I agree with the author. I've gone through a lot off these articles and what I feel will happen is Xbox one will sell VERY VERY well. When they get more ppl to buy the Xbox with the multiple features for a WIDE audience it will be a win-win situation for Microsoft, Developers and GAMERS. The DRM stuff will be sorted when they realize gamers wont go easy on them. Besides the DRM CRAP the Xbox one features with kinect is quite brilliant. Eventually when there will be more owners of the xbox they will be able to fund even bigger, better games. Its good for everyone. Microsoft is trying to make the WHOLE WORlD PLAY GAMES and im ok with it.
Well, I certainly won't be purchasing one. Sony have already got my money on the PS4. Sony advertises the PS4, Microsoft advertises a multiplatform game, ENOUGH SAID!!
I reserve my judgment for E3. I'm hoping to see another jet set radio game where you use the controller with kinect to Scribble bad words on the wall.
I don't think MS really has forgotten gamers as much as the internet thinks, they just didn't show much of the gaming capabilities and probably wanted to wait for E3. There will be games for the XOne, and they will be great games. The whole TV and sports thing are part of the ecosystem, and is used as a selling point over the competition, no different from BluRay movie playback being a selling point for the PS3. That being said, the used games and always on DRM really bothers me and as long as MS sticks with their decision I will not buy an XOne and staying on my 360.
It won't fail. There are SO many people who play fantasy football and watch TV. /sarcasm
" There are SO many people who...watch TV. /sarcasm " I actually do not know for the life of me, what to say about this. Although, I cannot think of any better moment to sum up my thoughts of your comment. http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Not to be a dick or anything but I thought the gaming community has made that fact pretty clear.
Its really nice to here a proper response to xbox ones reveal. Thanks Red Dragon. Do not be fooled Microsoft knows gamers people. They told everyone that the reveal was to show the console not the games. E3 will do the games. Xbox one looks to be amazing.
Is 15 exclusives, 300,000 servers, COD Ghost, Battlefield 4, Watchdogs, Fifa14.Madden etc not playable on the Xbox one ? For a moment I thought they'd forgotten gamers.
300,000 virtual servers** Not physical.
Hoping this will fail spectacularly.
two words only in my opinion (Of Course)
yea have fun with that shit constantly recording and listening to you.
The only thing I enjoyed about this video was the pets. The dog have a face like he's lying again. Don't do it. The cat started rolling off. Maybe they just wanted to be fed. LOL.
Had to stop watching when he said we are already in the minority. Here's my issue with that.... 1) Nobody signs up for XBL just to use Netflix. Sure a ton of people use it for Netflix and other things but the primary purpose of XBL is ONLINE GAMING. The other stuff is a bonus. 2) Just because I watch a 2 hour movie and only game for an hour, does not mean I bought another Xbox just to watch movies. 3) MS f***ed up and no longer know who their audience is.
The problem with N4G is that it is a gaming site. It misrepresents the people who actually buy consoles. So called hard-core gamers make up a small percentage of the market. Very small. PS3 owners use their PS3s for much more than games. So has Sony abandoned half their market. http://www.technobuffalo.co... Sony isn't stupid, they have the same features. But they have fulled the small group of people that lives in the gamer bubble that know little or nothing about the real world. They sit in the basement waiting for their mother to bring them their --cking chocolate milk. The reality is that consoles serve a lot of people and MS is not only pushing for gamers, they are pushing for an advantage with those people too. And again, the others far outnumber the gamers. So as Microsoft takes away all of the bubble dwellers excuses, exclusives and first party studios. Sony could start losing its foothold in gaming. All of the fanboy nonsense is chasing potential customers away from Sony. Anyone with common sense would want to disassociate themselves from fanboys and Sony's unwillingness to advertise the true capabilities of their machine could end up being the very reason MS does better this generation. SO keep allowing yourselves to be fooled. You're actually killing the thing you believe you are supporting.
Judging by your Avatar, you are and NFL loving, Dudebro, and not a gamer. You probably jumped for joy at the NFL Fantasy bullshit at the reveal. Therefore your thoughts mean nothing here.
I've been a Broncos fan as long as I've been a gamer and maybe you didn't notice my name. Or would you prefer I change it to PS4FTW or 360Ninja or something else stupid. I don't play fantasy football, haven't bought any NFL products since the EA exclusivity contract because I support 2K. They had the better GAME. So your idiotic assumption means nothing. I just live outside the games are everything bubble. And you should put down the Hotpocket and move out of your mother's basement. That is what "real" gamers do, right? Kinda funny you questioning me being a gamer when I have more time and twice as many comments as you do on this site. And judging from your avatar what the --ck does it have to do with gaming.
Its not really rubbish guys
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