GI - Following the earnings call, we analyze the year ahead for GameStop as controversy over Xbox One and used games heats up.
I think GameStop are just as clueless as everyone else. If high up executives at Microsoft don't know for sure what the plan is then you know GameStop doesn't know anything.
In the end MS is trying to control your NOW free physical content like they do your digital content.
too much common sense, can't compute. ;)
GameStop CEO seems to be in full on damage control mode to prevent stocks from plummeting to the point where they will have to close up shop. I wouldn't doubt that he is in communications with MS, because even MS understands the importance of the retail market, but I don't know if MS is giving him any more info than they're giving us. Probably just something along the lines of, "We are going to be looking out for our retail partners, but we aren't ready to comment".
I think they are secretly wondering WTF? Hopefully the latest report on the issue is true, which actually makes the most sense.
So they are charging you a fee to play online, you don't think they will charge you a fee to play a borrowed or used game? You love Microsoft so much you can't see past their disgusting greed.
It looks as if they wont charge any fee for used games :) http://www.theverge.com/201... The online fee is part of life, you want premium services and content, it is going o cost you. Xbox One looks to really improve the entire thing by adding in dedicated servers for every game on the network, so I can imagine that isn't cheap. $4 a month isn't something that is going to break me or most people, and if it is, maybe they should find a cheaper hobby or use an alternative like WiiU, Ps4 or PC? Just a thought.
@jek_porkins wow you sir should work for Microsoft because you know how to spin things the right way. In the article they still left MANY questions unanswered, but I know your response " wait for E3".
So your using the same quote, reported by a different website to prove your point? These are the same quotes that got MS into this mess in the first place. The damn fee, and what it entails(MS control over your property) is the whole problem Jek. How many times do people have to point that out to you. THE FEE IS THE RESTRICTION!!!
No, they are not clueless. They are a billion dollar company, do you really think they have their pants down around their ankles? No, truth is they are set to be one of the only places you can go to trade/sell your used games. They will act as a central hub to deactivate/activate and will share profits with the pubs. There is a NDA involved and that's why there is a lot of smoke going around because no one connected with the deal can confirm or deny, my best guess. @influxity what a way to waste a bubble.
This thing is going to change the industry. The game industry is quickly becoming like the cable/satellite industry. The purchase of physical tied to digital means no way out. You are buying access and Gamestop cannot do anything but take a meager 10 percent or what not. As I stated it's just like any prepaid card, those PIN numbers are the key and only MS or publisher can give them out. The disc will be there just to take some weight off the servers, but I doubt the whole game will be on there, Gamestop is just there to take a fixed percent on used games
I don't know if he'd be in on that knowledge yet. However the thought of how it's going to work may not be that far off base. First limit choice, then strip it away completely. Sometimes moves like this are best done in small doses, and that may have been MS plan from the very beginning. Retailers would love it if they are one of the only places to turn in games. The ebay and personal seller/trader markets cut into their profits. It would mean less money per sale for GS, but in the long run more money since they are one of the few choices amongst individual competition. Edit: OTOH DevilishSix does make a very good point below. Might be worth holding back on the conspiracy theories for now. The GameStop CEO did seem unsure, if not outright clueless.
Wasn't there a rumor that GameStop inked a deal with Microsoft to be one of the few allowed to deal with used games on the XO? I imagine if they do, gamestop will have the ability to deactivate a license in store then assign a new one upon resell. This would also allow Microsoft to set used game prices and get a percentage of the sale which would hopefully trickle back to the developers. It would kill ebay, craigslist and amazon marketplace, yet give GameStop a used games monopoly.
monopolies are against the law and that would constitute unfair business practices. We will see court cases and suites filed everywhere and the gov will eventually step in is my guess to clarify what is a publishers rights and what is a consumers rights of purchase. Also, I see Samsung suing MS as the Xbox One is trying to do what Samsung Smart TV's already do. My guess is there are patents that will be disbuted on that stuff.
Generally I don't root for legal action, but in this case I hope Microsoft and all the other companies who try this stuff spend the next 8 years in court fighting case after case.
All Microsoft has to do to avoid any kind of lawsuit is give this ability to more than one retailer, so say GameStop and Best Buy. No matter how many retailers they partner with, they still get to set the used game price.
Technically they would probably have to offer it to any retailer, although they could theoretically make the contract costs so high that it would be unfeasible for the smaller stores. On the other hand, there is no real reason for MS to limit it's availability to retail. The personal sale side they can have covered, and retail is free to set up a contract based on proof of business. It could get into price fixing cases though if MS controls the costs of used game sales. But I'm sure MS just wants their fee, and doesn't care what companies give or sell used games for. Honestly, this does seem more like a price fixing case than a monopoly case. There is another term for controlling the market in such a way, which is illegal, but I can't remember what it is. I think it has something to do along the lines of the first sale doctrine. However, the courts are actually kind of fuzzy and noncommittal on that issue when it comes to software.
The last time I gave a fuck about GS was back in the day when I used to buy things from there. Now I am older and know better.
Honestly I see one of many scenarios. Either Gamestop is closely tied into how the Xbox One's used game system will work. OR, they're well aware that it won't sell well, thus don't care. OR, they actually have no clue. OR, they'll refuse to stock the Xbox One altogether, thus Microsoft if anything will have to bend over.
Who cares what Gamestop thinks? They are just a private company that sells games and they shouldn't be a factor in anything just so they can stay afloat. I think their glory days are coming to an end and it won't hurt my feelings.
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