Microsoft reveals 100GB 360 drive at X06 Korea

Apparently, Microsoft couldn't squeeze all the announcements they had into TGS and X06 in Barcelona, so they saved one for the X06 event going down in Korea. Trailing slides of 360 peripherals we've already seen -- like the Vision camera, wireless headset, wireless gaming receiver, and the 256MB Memory Unit -- was this shot of a 100GB hard drive, courtesy Korean gaming site Game Inside. While there is no mention of price for the unit, it is supposed to debut in March 2007. Though the images look legit, there doesn't appear to be any counterpart on Gamespot Korea's coverage of the presentation or the rest of the day's news.

[Donkey Slayer]

Would be nice so I could store more demos but it comes down to price

[PS360PCROCKS]

yeah that could be really expensive and now this is beginning to become rediculous if I have to buy that just to save all my stuff

[PS360WII]

would be meaning if it's affordable

[kmis87]

Based on the $100 price tag of the 20gb model, I'd guess that this could cost $200. Of course, Microsoft could be nice and slash prices for the 20gb model and that would affect how much this one would cost. At least now gamers have a choice in hard drives, although it would be better if third party hard drives could be used as well.

[Mikey_Gee]

.. it may take the same path as MP3 prices.

Think about it .. for a decent one or two gig player you pay approx $100 - $150 dollars.

Yet for a fully loaded 30gig video player, you only pay about $300 to $350 dollars.

Honestly, if 20 gig is $100, do you really think they would charge $500 for the 100gig HD .... NO WAY !!!

[Grown Folks Talk]

releasing in conjuction with their direct tv partnership. more space to store downloaded movies, ect.

[Marriot VP]

Some of you guys didn't believe me, well believe me now. The 360 was going to get a bigger HDD because the HDD is where developers are going to store an extra gb or so per game.

Also don't think this is going to be priced above 150 bucks, more like 120, because all their going to do is drop the 20gb price down to 50-80 or something like that. There's no reason for it to be over 150 bucks. Also it's not going to be needed for a year or two so the price will go down.

[THWIP]

You don't/can't "store" extra game content on a console's HDD...the content still has to be on the 9GB disk to begin with, even if in compressed form. The only way this could affect games, is if they do indeed shift the SKU makeup, to a 20GB standard HDD for the "core", and 100GB for a new "premium". Then, devs could at least be able to count on an HDD, like they could with XBOX, for caching and quicker load/decompression times. That was MS's single biggest mistake with the 360; many devs complained about not having the HDD to work with, which was a big advantage of XBOX over the PS2. Several of the early 360 games (particularly Oblivion and most EA games) showed where the lack of a standard HDD limited the content and load times.

[Marriot VP]

What you still mad about me slamming you on your racist Nazi joke. Bottomline is I didn't say how the information is going to be distributed so I have no idea how my logic is flawed. It's more like your jumping the gun thinking you actually have something to say.

There's a couple options they'll take, I say both
1. Include 2 DVD's, make the option of downloading the extra couple gb's to your HDD
2. Or send the extra couple gb's over XBL

Once again you see there's no flawed logic here. Try a little harder to think before you speak. Also don't agree with yourself, it makes you look even more pathetic.

[THWIP]

I told you it was a joke, and that was the end of it. If you "slammed" me, I never read it, and I honestly don't care to either.
This wasn't an attack on you...just a statement of facts, pointing out your poor logic.
I'm sorry you feel the need to pretend you know more than anyone else, and have to be an ass who spouts BS to "prove" it. I don't play that game. If you want to continue believing you know what you're talking about, that's your business...buy you'll soon find out how crazy you sound.

[BIadestarX]

Why would I be the cause? Cause I back my statemens with facts? You comments are like double edge swords, in one side it tries to show you think everever the 360 is comming with is go (since you can't find anything negative to say, on the other you try to add a problem that does not exist. Eventhough I am an MCSD(Microsoft Certified Solution Developer) and I most work developing applications for windoes based OS (i.e. asp.net, C#, vb.net) (notice this site as created with asp.net (a microsoft web technology)) which in terms pays my bills and allows me buy all the stuff I wan't (including the PS3 which I pre-ordered) I don't worship M$. I welcome you to post your disagreements the same as I do when I don't agree with something like, " I also wish as well as developers that MS made the HDD standard in every 360 like they did with the xbox."... i.e. I don't agree with this because (here is my opinion) because giving people options like now(100GB) is better since 5 years from now HD download will be huge and the hardware needs to be ready for this. Integrating a 20GB may sound good today, but what about 3 years from now? Well, if required microsoft can come up with a 500GB HD.
So, having an internal HD has its benefit (you don't have to buy it) well.. sort of, since you can get the $399 which comes with it and still save $100 against the 20GB PS3 SKU.
Ok, this is where you post a response, (something better than accusing me of fanboy) I don't know maybe, "But the PS3 comes with blu-ray and hdmi", the I reply, "Well not everyone has HDMI on their TVs" and "I am not interested on blu-ray" ... you see? No need to get mad because I got my own opinion. and someone does not agree 100% on what you say.

[Donkey Slayer]

As for now, I delete old demo's to make room for new demos.
I would much prefer to have the CHOICE of not buying an MS brand HDD. I also wish as well as developers that MS made the HDD standard in every 360 like they did with the xbox.
I do find it amusing that you are always whining about the PS3 and quick to call anybody a PS3 fanboy that doesn't blindly worship MS or that doesn't exclusively game on MS's system, yet you are the first one to bring PS3 into this topic. Why is that?

You do realize you are the cause of quite a large percentage of flamewars here.

[BIadestarX]

Well at least these HD will not cost as much as Sony PSP memory sticks.

256MB - $35
512MB - $49
2GB - $145

That's $72.5 per GB.
So, 100GB memory stick would be $7,250.

So, wait until the PS3 comes out and you have to buy some of these to store extra stuff.
Condering the fact that HD in the PS3 are integrated I can see where Sony is going to make lots of cash.
So, I think XBox 360 do not have to worry as much as PS3 owners about the price of extra storage.

[Donkey Slayer]

Always bringing in other subjects into a topic.
Now you are comparing memory cards to Hard Drives in terms of $ per amount of memory, lol That's a bit a reach even for you.

Have you ever heard of the terms "apples to oranges" or "red herring" ;)

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Nambo, you can add a non-Sony HDD to the PS3 if you want. Sony comfirmed this already.

Anyways, I imagine the 100GB HDD will really come handy for DVR capabilities.. Just for gaming it isn't essential but it's always nice to have more space.

[nambo]

I did wish included a larger HD than the measly 20GB, but at least it’s replaceable. What will all the PS3 purchasers do when they want a larger HD? With the exception of opening it up and risk damaging their system, I suspect they’ll need and add on.

[Siesser]

I'm not quite sure what you're saying about the hard drive being "integrated." With the ps3, you can swap in and out any standard 2.5" laptop-sized hard drive you want. You don't have to use memory sticks for anything . . . and they're only useable in the 60gig model anyways. Along with other memory formats.

My 1gig xD card for my camera cost $40. My 250gig external drive cost $80 (it was on sale). My $200 gig internal slave drive cost me about $100 a year and a half ago. As you make things portable, their expensive increases I guess.

Over at Best Buy, a 1gig memory stick is $50, and a 64MB memory unit for the 360 is $40. $100 buys you a 20gig 360HD, where for the same cost, you can get an 80gig notebook HD. Granted, you can most likely find each of these items cheaper or on sale elsewhere.

[BIadestarX]

yeah I head the term. but 1) The 360 uses the HD to store data, and the PS uses the memory to store data. Also, does this term applies to people comparing the 360 HD and PC HD? 2) I mentioned the memory sticks since the PS3 supports it and therefore will be used to add extra storage.
@Kevmac83, sorry I may be confused about the HD, I was under the impression that the PS3 had an Integrated HD, I didn't know you can swap the HD the same way you can do with the 360. can you please show me a link that indicate what you're saying is accurate? Ofcourse I don't want to void my PS3 guarantee my opening the PS3 and replacing the HD.

[Siesser]

Sure, not a problem.

http://www.gamesindustry.bi...

[Arkham]

Sorry, your argument doesn't hold any water. You don't have to stick with the Memory Stick if you don't want, as the PS3 model you'd use a Sony stick with also supports other, cheaper flash card formats.

[Marty8370]

Sony has given a choice where u can use any make or model drive with PS3,making it cheap to get 100Gb+ drives.M$ is just a rip off charging $100 for a 20Gb drive,so I bet this 100Gb drive is another rip off price.

[shotty]

Where have I heard this choice speech before. Oh ya the xbox 360.

[highps3]

LOL another Add ON!!! Whoever bought the 360 already certainly got shafted!!!

lol...

How much is every add on if some insane person was to buy all the add ons? Its like over $1000.00 !!!! lol

[Mikey_Gee]

So I guess you will buy no add ons for your PS3 right ??

Ahhh Yeah .... that's what I thought you would say !!

GROW UP !!

[Arkham]

What kind of add-ons? HDMI? HD movie player? A hard drive? A memory unit? Wireless? Oh yeah, I don't have to, they're already included out of the box.

[Mikey_Gee]

Memory unit ???

I don't need one with my 360 ... I use the Harddrive that came with it. (IN THE BOX)

WIRELESS??

My 360 came with the wireless controller.(IN THE BOX)

I can use my Component cables for HD (THAT CAME IN THE BOX), BUT if I want to I can buy the HDMI cable ... THE SAME AS YOU WILL NEED TO BUY A HDMI CABLE

So I do not see your point !!!

[Arkham]

You don't have Wi-Fi (not controllers...duh), unless you buy one after-box. You don't have HD movie support unless you buy one after-box. You don't have HDMI output, unless you buy a proprietary maybe-cable maybe-next-year after-box. Those were my points regarding your comment about "add-ons for the PS3". Capiche?

[Mikey_Gee]

I LOVE my 360 and my PS3 is pre-ordered.

If you are trying to justify to me or anyone else why the PS3 is SO RIGHT and the 360 is SO WRONG .. please ... give up now ... it will not work.

My 360 SPECIFIC cable will run no more or less than a decent HDMI cable you will have to buy.

And no comment on the mem card I guess ??

Not bad, you got one out of three, and even then ... you did not say Wi-Fi ... you said wireless.

NOW .. serious question .. not a bicker question..
And are you sure the PS3 has built in WI-FI or will you use Cat-5 unless you buy a wi-fi adapter.