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Gamers Not Particularly Happy With Xbox One

Gamers Not Particularly Happy With Xbox One

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xHeavYx4417d ago

Unless you are a Playstation user, then you are very happy

LOGICWINS4417d ago

Your not looking at the big picture. If Microsoft gets boxed out of the industry, then Sony will essentially monopolize core gaming without competition. Hence giving them more room to exploit core console gamers. Any consumer who doesn't want competition in business is an idiot.

NameRemoved00174417d ago

Actually it will switch from Microsoft Vs PS4 to Valve/pc gaming vs PS4.

FlameHawk4417d ago

Well I'm not sure, PS2 basically dominated its time and it was fine. Also there is Nintendo.

-Alpha4417d ago (Edited 4417d ago )

Sony was at their best when they practically monopolized with the PS2. Unlike MS at their height (360), Sony supported and funded games that may not have been all about the money (ICO).

Yeah, they did milk gamers (multitap, ethernet add on, memory card), while MS offered the more valuable box (more powerful, HDD, 4 controller support, etc.) but I have to say, Sony has generally been pretty solid with their philosophy.

Yeah, they messed up huge with PS3. It's ironic to me how PS3 and 360 fans are now flipped. Media is eating out MS, and the X1 videos have a lot of downvotes. This is pretty much this generation, with the shoe of mockery on the other foot.

MS was a great option for a lot of gamers who didn't want to pay for Sony's ridiculous arrogance at the start of this gen, but I think Sony has learned their lesson.

I do not care for MS's future, in fact, the only one I'm really worried for is Wii U because MS is going tear open Nintendo. Nintendo is really the only concern here, as they are so wish-washy and directionless with their audience. MS has made a much better attempt at balancing the two, but it's clear which way MS and Sony are predominantly headed.

As far as competition goes, I think there will always be room for competition if a one-console option is truly so terrible that fans can't stand Sony. Sony wont monopolize with tyranny and limit freedom of choice, competition will always exist.

If that happens, Sony will rightfully lose fans like they did at the start of this generation. I doubt we'll see Krazy Kutaragi Sony Era again.

If MS gets boxed out, it will be their own fault. If the competition can't hang, you can't blame the rival for monopolizing, but if the monopoly is so damn bad, consumers will vote with their wallets.

Shadow Flare4417d ago

Competition is very good but I remember the ps2 and ps1 being damn fine consoles. Both of which swept aside the competition and both of which produced stella gaming experiences for many years.

Lack of competition didn't stop the ps1 and ps2 being awesome. If Sony had no competition, then they would still push themselves, as the evidence shows

Biggest4417d ago

From what we've just seen. . .

I would prefer Sony monopolizing core gaming. They seem to be the only company still concerned with core gaming anyway. Microsoft has been exploiting core console gamers since the beginning of 360. The "competition" from Microsoft is detrimental. A new competitor should enter the fray.

abzdine4417d ago

4>1

Microsoft just brilliantly proved this basic mathematical comparison!

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Cupid_Viper_34417d ago

Nonsense bro... Microsoft didn't exist during the PlayStation 1 and Nintendo 64 era, and Sony improved greatly with the PS2, and arguably the best game library to ever grace a console.

I honestly believe that gaming would benefit greatly benefit mirrosoft player a smaller role. Their tactics are very anti-customer-ish, and the cons far outweighs the pros when it comes to what they bring to gaming as a whole.

Root4417d ago

Sony didn't really exploit people that much when the Xbox wasn't a threat when the PS2 was out

Least then it would allow them to rake in more money to spend on more studios and fund more games.

How many old franchises were better back then

Tomb Raider
Final Fantasy
Max Payne (story wise)
Hitman
Resident Evil
Crash Banicoot
Spyro
Silent Hill

and so on...

It was all peaceful back then and developers didn't have to exploit their own franchises on all systems and dumb them down to sell more

thechosenone4417d ago

You forget Valve and the Steambox my friend. Was Sony lazy and complacent during the PS2 days? I don't think so.

SilentNegotiator4417d ago

They won't get "boxed out"

If they have to put forth an ENTIRE billion dollars in a single year, they'll do it to keep the brand from sinking.

And as has been said: PS2.

Blacktric4417d ago (Edited 4417d ago )

"If Microsoft gets boxed out of the industry, then Sony will essentially monopolize core gaming without competition"

Is that what happened back when Sony had no proper competition towards the middle lifecycle of the PS1?

Is that what happened back when Sony had close to no competition throughout the full life cycle of PS2?

Thought so.

There is one company in your comparison that would make such a terrible thing, and that is Microsoft. Not Nintendo, not Sony, but Microsoft. You know, the company that sees me, you and everyone else who gave two s**ts about their products as sheep?

Oh_Yeah4417d ago (Edited 4417d ago )

And tell me why a Sony monopoly would be a bad thing? The only company which brings about a variety of core exclusives in every genre gen after gen, puts out the most new ips. The company that seems to be most focused on GAMES and value to the GAMER...I think it would be doing the gamers a favor.

FamilyGuy4417d ago

That's not true, was the PS2 bad just because it eclipsed the competition? No! It was one of the greatest generations of gaming.

All PS4 "winning" means is that the game developers will truly be competing with each other for our money.

Donnieboi4416d ago (Edited 4416d ago )

But if Microsoft isn't going for core gamers (and instead wants to be a cable company) then how does Micorsofts fall effect CORE gaming? That's like saying Sony will monoploize because Time Warner/Road Runner Cable goes out of business or falls away from Cable business.

Sony is the ONLY core gaming company left. I don't want to see a monopoly either--but MS isn't filling the shoes of adequate competition when it comes to hardcore gaming anyway. I wish Valve contnued with the SteamBox. Valve is ACTUAL good potential for HARDCORE gaming against Sony. Not MS.

MS is no longer on Sony's level. MS is on some cable TV pop-culture crap. The pressure for Sony is huge since their the only console holding it down for core gaming. Even if the Xbox One could outsell the PS4, it wouldn't matter because it would be like the cable companies selling more boxes then Sony did PS4's--2 completely different markets. MS is impotent now, as far as domestic game-focused rigs are concerned. Fact.

kneon4416d ago

If the Xbox one were to flop that could still cause Sony problems. If Microsoft get desperate to turn things around then we could see big price cuts and a lot more checks being written for timed DLC.

MikeMyers4416d ago

Look at what happened when the PS2 dominated, we were treated with a $600 game console with a terrible launch of games. It took a couple of years for them to get their act together, all largely thanks to stiffer competition.

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My_Name_BTW_Is_Dante4417d ago

Nope. I'm more of a Playstation gamer and PS4 is just as disappointing as Xbox One. PS4 has a terrible gimmicky controller on top of more facebook garbage pushed in for the casuals. They're still going on about motion control and they're leaving used game blocking up to publishers (and of course publishers will want to block their used games as that's even better for them than online passes).

Next-gen the online pass becomes the offline pass. Nintendo's Wii U is the only console that doesn't really screw over gamers but overall all 3 next gen consoles are garbage and you're better off just building a gaming PC.

But yeah, here on N4G I'm sure Playstation fanboys are happy considering they're hypocrites.

BlackTar1874417d ago (Edited 4417d ago )

lol you don't sound bias or fanboyish at all.

Skips4417d ago (Edited 4417d ago )

"on top of more facebook garbage pushed in for the casuals."

LMFAO!

They spent like 10 min on that out of the whole 2 hour conference. -____-

SoapShoes4417d ago

Facebook stuff isn't required... You don't even have to use it! Lame logic!

thechosenone4417d ago

Like Sony is forcing you to use those social features, they're are all optional.

boing14417d ago

You have no idea what you're talking about. Share button alone will change the way we play and socialize with other gamers. And DS4 is a brilliantly designed piece of hardware. They've corrected everything that was wrong with DS3 and added awesome features. You will be amazed at what devs will be able to do with DS4 + Camera combo.

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FlameBaitGod4417d ago (Edited 4417d ago )

What >? didn't everyone love the new halo tv show ? ...... ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh and the fake applause where the BEST!

Aceman184417d ago

yea i watched it once i got home since i recorded it, and notice NONE of the media in the front clapping.

NatureOfLogic4417d ago

So many butt hurt Xbox fanboys today, and I actually feel sorry for them. Blindly ignoring all of the clear facts of MS's direction for the Xbox brand.

BabyTownFrolics4417d ago

i see a console that has the horse power to showcase games with better graphics and ai than the 360 could. I see an improved controller, an improved kinect, an improved live, and more seamless integration into other forms of entertainment.

All you see is something that is not the PS4 and that is a very narrow and simplistic way of looking at things.

I cant wait to get my hands on both consoles, its gonna be fun.

remember fun? its something that happens when your not on this site.

dalibor4416d ago

remember fun?

This should happen with whatever system you choose. Gaming is all about having fun and escaping the crazy world. And N4G(all other websites on the internet) is also about having some fun on the side so long as you don't take s**t seriously. Some might say that life is also fun... so many fun places to be at if you look at it like that. Damn.

THamm4417d ago

Seems as Microsoft is hoping 3rd parties will sign up ASAP as this system is trying to put the lock down on Piracy and used all together

tuglu_pati4417d ago

people are not happy because they showed a week console which will compete with WiiU in terms of power and focusing in entertainment instead of gaming.

Eddie201014417d ago

I own both the PS3 and Xbox 360.

I hate Microsoft's star power, smoke and mirrors style of press conference. Show me games and hardware facts and how they can improve gaming, not a bunch of Hollywood bull @#$$.

Sony did show the important stuff and did not try to manipulate me or the industry.

Lior4417d ago

It's looks like some 80s Atari clone console

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Number-Nine4417d ago

Gamers: Not happy
Others people: Don't care because theyre not gamers.

gano4417d ago

well m$ supporters are not happy.
gamers still have ps and nin, so i think we are fine.

pompombrum4417d ago

Well tbh, what does it do that's going to get other people excited? I can't see people picking it up just for the convenience of voice activated commands (which is going to get abused by bickering siblings anyway) and the tv features doesn't seem like anything my sky box or a few remote control buttons can't do.

MasterCornholio4417d ago

What is the author talking about?

Gamers dont want games they want digital television and kinect features thats why XBOX fans are rushing to retailers to place a preorder for the system.

I didnt enjoy the conference though and at the moment i still prefer a gaming console over a KinectTVbox

BlackTar1874417d ago

when "Gamers" start to make excuses for why the system shows very little gaming focus you know we have a problem

gano4417d ago

then they are not gamers.
they are sales rep, or company emp.
but supposedly gamers wont make ex.

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dumahim4417d ago

"In the Xbox reveal, one new game was announced Fifa 14, along with more info on Call of Duty: Ghosts and Battlefield 4 (For more info on B4, click here). Here’s where one of the key problems lie: all of these games are coming to PS4."

Forza 5 and Quantum Break?

SirBradders4417d ago

All microsoft have done is exchanged free advertising for timed exclusives. Sony have shown a few ips and im damn sure they have got alot of cards still to play because they revealed early for a reason they wanna grab some of their audience back.

Ive owned everything since i was young but as you get older moneys tighter and wiser so im leaning towards sony at the moment, they even sound like they are gonna be cheaper by the looks of it win win. More power for less.

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Shuyin4417d ago

Didn't grab me at all. There wasn't enuff proper footage.

Blackdeath_6634417d ago

quantum break is cool but the shitty live acting didn't help it they also didn't explain what type of game it is (is it a shooter,an rpg, and action adventure) besides it reminded me of beyond:two souls when i saw it so did the guys at the ign stream so it wasn't just me as for forza i had enough of this lazy ass games recycling system Microsoft does had enough halo,forza and gears give us something new

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Microsoft planning “major” Xbox layoffs next week

The cuts are expected to be announced next week.

Microsoft is also planning thousands of job cuts that will impact other parts of it businesses

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Obscure_Observer1h ago

MFs has been beating their chests over great quarterly results and big profits to shareholders while firing people by the thousands just like Sony.

I wonder if at the top of those rumored layoffs they´ll also cancel upcoming or unannounced games while shutting down more studios as well.

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pwnmaster300059m ago

Always got to throw shade at Sony smh.
Yes we get it,
MS good Sony bad
MS bad Sony is also bad lmao

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Obscure_Observer42m ago

F* them both!

Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares.

Terry_B29m ago

Yeah..its super annoying.

Tacoboto34m ago

"just like Sony"

Gosh you're insufferable, not everything needs to be both-sides'd. Sony's had layoffs, but nothing like what Microsoft has been doing and is continuing to do.

CrimsonWing6926m ago(Edited 25m ago)

I mean, no offense, but this is why you’re not some corporate business person running a major corporation. Big profits don’t mean jobs are safe. Do you understand why things like this happen:

Cutting jobs to maintain or increase profitability, especially in underperforming divisions like parts of Xbox like other gaming divisions.

Corporate restructuring and relocating resources for strategic stability in ever changing markets and consumer behaviors.

Investor expectations and optimizing operations to maintain investor confidence. Whatever boosts stock prices and improves future margins.

And there’s many other factors at play. It’s never as simple as business doing well, everyone’s safe. That’s just you not understanding at all how corporations work and have been working since the beginning. This isn’t something that’s specific to Xbox, you can bet your ass Sony and Nintendo do this and if it’s not clear by now, game development is not a stable job nor has it ever been for many. A lot of developers are contractors and guess what happens when a project is done?

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AMD CEO Shares Vision Behind Xbox Partnership and Next-Gen Chip Roadmap

AMD CEO Lisa Su talks about the Xbox AMD partnership, next-gen Ryzen + Radeon chips, and AI rendering tech coming to all Xbox devices.

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Obscure_Observer4d ago

AMD is really building hype around their unique partnership with Microsoft to help and build an advanced and seamless Xbox ecosystem across all Xbox consoles and devices.

I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimized chips" though? Seems ambitious.

Next year´s Xbox Showcase already looks promising and exciting. Here´s hoping they deliver.

InUrFoxHole4d ago

They had best show 3yrs in a row. Heading for another

VenomUK4d ago

Obscure_Observer said “I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimised chips" though? Seems ambitious.” To me, I interpret this to mean rather than having a couple of X/S products for launch and a handheld there is a longer term plan to release new products with higher specs at timed intervals. I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec.

Agent753d ago

But Microsoft forgot the games.

KwietStorm_BLM4d ago

It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever.

Ganif4d ago

Correct.

"Sony's PlayStation 6 reportedly will feature an AMD semi-custom APU with a Zen 5 CPU and UDNA GPU, capable of 4K 120FPS and 8K 60FPS gaming. The console will include X3D cache and advanced AI upscaling technology."

https://www.tweaktown.com/n...

Obscure_Observer3d ago

"It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever."

I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released.

Notellin3d ago

You should have just lead this comment with the fact that you have zero understanding of technology in the consoles and instead have a Toms Hardware online forum level of education.

Obscure_Observer1d ago

"It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever"

I´d told you were on some bs

https://www.pcgamesn.com/wp...

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Agent753d ago

But Microsoft forgot the games

Obscure_Observer3d ago

@VenomUK

"I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec."

Very interesting theory. Still not sure how MS would actually make it work.

KwietStorm_BLM3d ago

"I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released."

How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is.

Obscure_Observer2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

"How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is."

Dude, what I know for certain is that a tech as old as X3D chips which is actually *older* than both PS5 and Xbox Series consoles, is hardly the reason behind this new partnership between AMD and MS to build new *custom silicon* for next generation of consoles.

And yes it´s a huge announcement since AMD is working closely with MS to co-develop custom SoC which will allow backwards compatibility across all MS´s next gen devices allowing seamless integration between devices and full backwards compatibility across all generations of Xbox consoles.

I also know is that this announcement don´t have anything to do with Playstation and their strategy with AMD for the PS6, so stop comparing the two pretending that you know what´s going on, because you clearly don´t.

If Sony is working on something remotely similar, that´s remain to be seen.

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Fishy Fingers4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Some odd, deliberate wording, no branding, not 'Xbox consoles, Xbox handhelds' specifically, feels and sounds like they're building towards hardware that anyone can be used or licensed to/by themselves and other manufacturers.

Multiplatform software and hardware 'Xbox/AMD APU'.

Obscure_Observer4d ago

I guess you missed Sarah Bond´s next generation Xbox announcement this week, were she clearly states:

"I´m thrilled to share that we´ve established a strategic multi-year partnership with AMD to co-engineer silicon across a portfolio of devices, including, *our* next generation *Xbox consoles*."

But hey, I don´t think you´re entirely wrong, maybe MS will build their own Xbox consoles while licencing other manufactures to build and sell their own Xbox branded consoles. Who knows

BeHunted4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I think you watched the wrong video. It's below the description, or you can watch it directly on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/kprpRvsOua...

HyperMoused4d ago

Shares vision....we provide chips for money, this deal will sell many chips, we will make lots of money...good vision

Christopher4d ago

The marketing behind this is so heavy that I worry about the actual outcome. Why are they just not showing us the product, why all this talking in market speak?

Lightning774d ago

Probably because the next xbox isn't ready to release yet?

The marketing and rumors seem to be heavy out of no where. The rumor was a 27 release but it maybe it could be 26 new console launch instead.

Who knows.

Eonjay4d ago

There PR is alrways super heavy handed. No one is acutally buying an Xbox as is.
Also it is very early to be talking so much about a next gen console.

Obscure_Observer3d ago

There´s a lot of people interested on Xbox Next and its ability to run games from major stores like Steam.

We know that the PS6 is just around the corner as well, but so far, no news on what it might improve over the PS5 or PS5 Pro.

However, Sony already made public that their priority and actual focus is the PS6. So its not "very early" to talk about next gen when the very console manufactures are talking about it.

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Activision Forces Adverts into Call of Duty Black Ops 6 and Warzone Loadouts

With the launch of Call of Duty Season 4, Activision quietly put adverts inside loadouts for Black Ops 6 and Warzone, sparking a backlash in the process.

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lukasmain23d ago

Putting Ads in a pay-to-play Premium title? Well done Microsoft. Well done /s This is really scummy.

jjb198123d ago

This game will never change because these sweatlords love buying up all the skins and bundles that become obsolete the following year. They're the ones perpetuating Activision's greed.

VenomUK22d ago

If Microsoft introduces adverts into its other games I hope it can do them without disrupting the immersion of the game world. So for example in the new Fable game it would look out of place if there was a billboard advertising Cadillacs.

A far better way to do it would be to have a wizard conjure a 'dream cloud' in front of your character and then in the cloud you can see the Cadillac car and see the text with price and availability and hear a booming sales voice promoting the car. That would work so well as it wouldn't be a billboard and completely, 100%, fit in with your character's adventuring in Albion. Doesn't that sound so much better?!

crazyCoconuts22d ago

@venom, or how about our of 100 farts in Albion, 1 of them has a Cadillac pop out

VenomUK22d ago

@crazyCoconuts That’s undeniably off-beat - but it could really work!

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