Gamers Not Particularly Happy With Xbox One
Unless you are a Playstation user, then you are very happy
Your not looking at the big picture. If Microsoft gets boxed out of the industry, then Sony will essentially monopolize core gaming without competition. Hence giving them more room to exploit core console gamers. Any consumer who doesn't want competition in business is an idiot.
Actually it will switch from Microsoft Vs PS4 to Valve/pc gaming vs PS4.
Well I'm not sure, PS2 basically dominated its time and it was fine. Also there is Nintendo.
Sony was at their best when they practically monopolized with the PS2. Unlike MS at their height (360), Sony supported and funded games that may not have been all about the money (ICO). Yeah, they did milk gamers (multitap, ethernet add on, memory card), while MS offered the more valuable box (more powerful, HDD, 4 controller support, etc.) but I have to say, Sony has generally been pretty solid with their philosophy. Yeah, they messed up huge with PS3. It's ironic to me how PS3 and 360 fans are now flipped. Media is eating out MS, and the X1 videos have a lot of downvotes. This is pretty much this generation, with the shoe of mockery on the other foot. MS was a great option for a lot of gamers who didn't want to pay for Sony's ridiculous arrogance at the start of this gen, but I think Sony has learned their lesson. I do not care for MS's future, in fact, the only one I'm really worried for is Wii U because MS is going tear open Nintendo. Nintendo is really the only concern here, as they are so wish-washy and directionless with their audience. MS has made a much better attempt at balancing the two, but it's clear which way MS and Sony are predominantly headed. As far as competition goes, I think there will always be room for competition if a one-console option is truly so terrible that fans can't stand Sony. Sony wont monopolize with tyranny and limit freedom of choice, competition will always exist. If that happens, Sony will rightfully lose fans like they did at the start of this generation. I doubt we'll see Krazy Kutaragi Sony Era again. If MS gets boxed out, it will be their own fault. If the competition can't hang, you can't blame the rival for monopolizing, but if the monopoly is so damn bad, consumers will vote with their wallets.
Competition is very good but I remember the ps2 and ps1 being damn fine consoles. Both of which swept aside the competition and both of which produced stella gaming experiences for many years. Lack of competition didn't stop the ps1 and ps2 being awesome. If Sony had no competition, then they would still push themselves, as the evidence shows
From what we've just seen. . . I would prefer Sony monopolizing core gaming. They seem to be the only company still concerned with core gaming anyway. Microsoft has been exploiting core console gamers since the beginning of 360. The "competition" from Microsoft is detrimental. A new competitor should enter the fray.
4>1 Microsoft just brilliantly proved this basic mathematical comparison!
Nonsense bro... Microsoft didn't exist during the PlayStation 1 and Nintendo 64 era, and Sony improved greatly with the PS2, and arguably the best game library to ever grace a console. I honestly believe that gaming would benefit greatly benefit mirrosoft player a smaller role. Their tactics are very anti-customer-ish, and the cons far outweighs the pros when it comes to what they bring to gaming as a whole.
Sony didn't really exploit people that much when the Xbox wasn't a threat when the PS2 was out Least then it would allow them to rake in more money to spend on more studios and fund more games. How many old franchises were better back then Tomb Raider Final Fantasy Max Payne (story wise) Hitman Resident Evil Crash Banicoot Spyro Silent Hill and so on... It was all peaceful back then and developers didn't have to exploit their own franchises on all systems and dumb them down to sell more
You forget Valve and the Steambox my friend. Was Sony lazy and complacent during the PS2 days? I don't think so.
They won't get "boxed out" If they have to put forth an ENTIRE billion dollars in a single year, they'll do it to keep the brand from sinking. And as has been said: PS2.
"If Microsoft gets boxed out of the industry, then Sony will essentially monopolize core gaming without competition" Is that what happened back when Sony had no proper competition towards the middle lifecycle of the PS1? Is that what happened back when Sony had close to no competition throughout the full life cycle of PS2? Thought so. There is one company in your comparison that would make such a terrible thing, and that is Microsoft. Not Nintendo, not Sony, but Microsoft. You know, the company that sees me, you and everyone else who gave two s**ts about their products as sheep?
And tell me why a Sony monopoly would be a bad thing? The only company which brings about a variety of core exclusives in every genre gen after gen, puts out the most new ips. The company that seems to be most focused on GAMES and value to the GAMER...I think it would be doing the gamers a favor.
That's not true, was the PS2 bad just because it eclipsed the competition? No! It was one of the greatest generations of gaming. All PS4 "winning" means is that the game developers will truly be competing with each other for our money.
But if Microsoft isn't going for core gamers (and instead wants to be a cable company) then how does Micorsofts fall effect CORE gaming? That's like saying Sony will monoploize because Time Warner/Road Runner Cable goes out of business or falls away from Cable business. Sony is the ONLY core gaming company left. I don't want to see a monopoly either--but MS isn't filling the shoes of adequate competition when it comes to hardcore gaming anyway. I wish Valve contnued with the SteamBox. Valve is ACTUAL good potential for HARDCORE gaming against Sony. Not MS. MS is no longer on Sony's level. MS is on some cable TV pop-culture crap. The pressure for Sony is huge since their the only console holding it down for core gaming. Even if the Xbox One could outsell the PS4, it wouldn't matter because it would be like the cable companies selling more boxes then Sony did PS4's--2 completely different markets. MS is impotent now, as far as domestic game-focused rigs are concerned. Fact.
If the Xbox one were to flop that could still cause Sony problems. If Microsoft get desperate to turn things around then we could see big price cuts and a lot more checks being written for timed DLC.
Look at what happened when the PS2 dominated, we were treated with a $600 game console with a terrible launch of games. It took a couple of years for them to get their act together, all largely thanks to stiffer competition.
Nope. I'm more of a Playstation gamer and PS4 is just as disappointing as Xbox One. PS4 has a terrible gimmicky controller on top of more facebook garbage pushed in for the casuals. They're still going on about motion control and they're leaving used game blocking up to publishers (and of course publishers will want to block their used games as that's even better for them than online passes). Next-gen the online pass becomes the offline pass. Nintendo's Wii U is the only console that doesn't really screw over gamers but overall all 3 next gen consoles are garbage and you're better off just building a gaming PC. But yeah, here on N4G I'm sure Playstation fanboys are happy considering they're hypocrites.
lol you don't sound bias or fanboyish at all.
"on top of more facebook garbage pushed in for the casuals." LMFAO! They spent like 10 min on that out of the whole 2 hour conference. -____-
Facebook stuff isn't required... You don't even have to use it! Lame logic!
Like Sony is forcing you to use those social features, they're are all optional.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Share button alone will change the way we play and socialize with other gamers. And DS4 is a brilliantly designed piece of hardware. They've corrected everything that was wrong with DS3 and added awesome features. You will be amazed at what devs will be able to do with DS4 + Camera combo.
What >? didn't everyone love the new halo tv show ? ...... ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh and the fake applause where the BEST!
yea i watched it once i got home since i recorded it, and notice NONE of the media in the front clapping.
So many butt hurt Xbox fanboys today, and I actually feel sorry for them. Blindly ignoring all of the clear facts of MS's direction for the Xbox brand.
i see a console that has the horse power to showcase games with better graphics and ai than the 360 could. I see an improved controller, an improved kinect, an improved live, and more seamless integration into other forms of entertainment. All you see is something that is not the PS4 and that is a very narrow and simplistic way of looking at things. I cant wait to get my hands on both consoles, its gonna be fun. remember fun? its something that happens when your not on this site.
remember fun? This should happen with whatever system you choose. Gaming is all about having fun and escaping the crazy world. And N4G(all other websites on the internet) is also about having some fun on the side so long as you don't take s**t seriously. Some might say that life is also fun... so many fun places to be at if you look at it like that. Damn.
Seems as Microsoft is hoping 3rd parties will sign up ASAP as this system is trying to put the lock down on Piracy and used all together
people are not happy because they showed a week console which will compete with WiiU in terms of power and focusing in entertainment instead of gaming.
I own both the PS3 and Xbox 360. I hate Microsoft's star power, smoke and mirrors style of press conference. Show me games and hardware facts and how they can improve gaming, not a bunch of Hollywood bull @#$$. Sony did show the important stuff and did not try to manipulate me or the industry.
It's looks like some 80s Atari clone console
Gamers: Not happy Others people: Don't care because theyre not gamers.
well m$ supporters are not happy. gamers still have ps and nin, so i think we are fine.
Well tbh, what does it do that's going to get other people excited? I can't see people picking it up just for the convenience of voice activated commands (which is going to get abused by bickering siblings anyway) and the tv features doesn't seem like anything my sky box or a few remote control buttons can't do.
What is the author talking about? Gamers dont want games they want digital television and kinect features thats why XBOX fans are rushing to retailers to place a preorder for the system. I didnt enjoy the conference though and at the moment i still prefer a gaming console over a KinectTVbox
when "Gamers" start to make excuses for why the system shows very little gaming focus you know we have a problem
then they are not gamers. they are sales rep, or company emp. but supposedly gamers wont make ex.
"In the Xbox reveal, one new game was announced Fifa 14, along with more info on Call of Duty: Ghosts and Battlefield 4 (For more info on B4, click here). Here’s where one of the key problems lie: all of these games are coming to PS4." Forza 5 and Quantum Break?
All microsoft have done is exchanged free advertising for timed exclusives. Sony have shown a few ips and im damn sure they have got alot of cards still to play because they revealed early for a reason they wanna grab some of their audience back. Ive owned everything since i was young but as you get older moneys tighter and wiser so im leaning towards sony at the moment, they even sound like they are gonna be cheaper by the looks of it win win. More power for less.
Didn't grab me at all. There wasn't enuff proper footage.
quantum break is cool but the shitty live acting didn't help it they also didn't explain what type of game it is (is it a shooter,an rpg, and action adventure) besides it reminded me of beyond:two souls when i saw it so did the guys at the ign stream so it wasn't just me as for forza i had enough of this lazy ass games recycling system Microsoft does had enough halo,forza and gears give us something new
props to ms for having a vision with xbox one where xbox 360 had none. took like 4 years for the 360 to not be a mess of limitations due to idiotic choices with hardware and even still it held everyone back. i dont agree with the xbox one ideology but at least it has one this time
Yep. Wasn't impressed with their reveal. I bought a 360 at launch, but I won't be buying an Xbox One at launch. Im going with PC and PS4.
same got my pc ready just need the ps4.
So basicly what you're saying is........... I dont give a crap if Microsoft shows the best games I have ever seen at E3. I dont care if it launches with great games. I dont care if the new Remedy game gets great reviews. I dont care if The exclusives they talked about are truely groundbreaking. I've already made my decision based on this!!! Good luck to you. But if nothing is shown at E3 myself and others will join you.
MS has had too much negativity and too much worry about moving away from gamers for too long. This was a golden opportunity for them to come out and dismiss all that and say we are for gamers. I wont state bluntly whether they failed at that or not, decide that for yourself, but it seems to me they had the world watching and had very little to say. Youre right but, they need to Wow at E3 or it might be the last straw for many, but people also said that about the reveal too.
i will not put up with having kinect always connected, not being able to let my brother play games i buy on his account without paying a fee, with all the dashboard advertisements,with paying for online and paying for features i will never use regardless of how many amazing games they announce at E3. besides there are more than enough games on ps4 and pc to satisfy my gaming needs
ps4 and wii u is all im getting so far,but ill hold my final judgement on xbox one for e3,and for their sake they better bring there A game.
i'm just getting PS4 and Wii U for this coming generation.
not gonna lie that sound like a better idea, infact its how i was with ps3 and wii this gen.
Wow did they drop the ball, this is a cable box... not a gaming box.... in fact it punishes gamers if anything... with its piss poor used game fees.... Not onlyis the game you buy tied to one account but to one HDD... meaning there is no more going over to a friends house and bring games to play... NO MORE LOANIng games.... No more borrowing And if you have to uses in the same house hold they have to pay a fee to use the full features of the game since it is one game to to one account and HDD Sure they can play them game but no achievements for it... Go check out wire and joystick it is pretty shocking what MS is saying to them...
this is shocking and unprecedented. Imagine your friend gets a copy of a crap game and wants you to play with him to make it bearable... nope you have to pay 9.99 install fee first (obviously this is going to be 5.99 to 19.99 it won't be like .99). Stupid! not a chance I sign in for this, can't wait to dump my gold account.
You've already set a price on an unconfirmed rumor? Microsoft even called the original website that published the rumor to set the record straight.
Sony just won E3
It's like microsoft looked at what gamers wanted and did the complete opposite. But we'll get kinectimals 2.0. Ps4 and wii u for me
Microsoft really likes cable boxes eh?
Wait, my comment was trolling yet the one asking the question wasn't? You want to write anyone up someone for trolling, flag Microsoft for trolling. They've been at it all goddamn day with this farce. 3/4 of the presentation were about TV features no one asked for. So cable box console(Only in the US), required internet connection for offline play one a day, used games are allowed but only if you pay full price for the license, always on, always listening...and then insulting their fan base by showing nothing but pre-rendered cgi? How on earth is my comment trolling amidst all this nonsense?
PROS -15 Exclusives. Microsoft listed -Gamertag and gamerscore carry over -That Quantum game -Halo tv series CONS -More multiplats than exclusives shown -The console looks like a VHS tape case
I dont think N4G realise they said E3 will be for games and they stated the exclusives...highly glossed over here.
They always say that E3 is about the games. The fans always fall for it. Then a dance party breaks out on the stage at E3, Kinect games fall from the heavens, and a brand new package of apps sprout up. Let's be real about this. Microsoft is playing with your head.
The real issue is that they have had plenty of time to TOP the PS4 reveal. They couldn't show some live gameplay of just one...or should I say ONE? They are "saving" games for E3 right? Well, so is SONY. Yet, we still saw gameplay of 4 games during their reveal. Quite simply, it was disappointing because it didn't really belay the issues of MS moving away from the core. If anything, it may have reinforced this particular idea.
15 Exclusives == 13 Xbox Live / Kinect / Mini game / Half production based games != PRO
I loled when I saw this on twitter.
Yup there's an article on the front page if i'm not mistaken.
The hype for Sony jumped way up today and Sony didn't even have to do anything. MS did all the work.
but after learning about the Anti-consumers bullshit, Sony is going to get my money.