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PS4's Share Button Will Have Limitations, You Can't Upload Whatever You Want

"When Sony unveiled the next generation PlayStation 4 at their February 21st event, they also showcased the new DualShock 4 controller. It was a significant step up from the original DualShock, particularly in the new Share button taking the place of the Select button."

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TacticProductionz4440d ago

Well ofcourse...You not gonna share everything and anything!! That would just be wrong lol.

gameseveryday4440d ago

Important point to be noted here is that developers can set restrictions in different sections of the game. In this way they will not allow uploading of those particular sections.

PLASTICA-MAN4440d ago

"For example, on Vita, developers can in certain scenes disable the feature that lets users take a screensho" ?
That's news for me. I didn't know about it. Any example?

-Alpha4440d ago

^ Probably areas where the game reveals spoilers?

Nitrowolf24440d ago

@PLASTICA-MAN

Yep.
Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 on the PS Vita

MikeMyers4440d ago

It's going to be hard to think they can actually control this. People have put up the whole game of Heavy Rain on YouTube. We live in the information world full of spoilers.

There are those who get off ruining the experience for others and there are also those who do this stuff accidentally. I can see why they would want to put in restrictions but it still won't work.

creatchee4440d ago

I could see the share functionality disabled or limited in cases of music. Music seems to be a sticking point in relicensing everything from old TV shows to even relatively newer games because it isn't considered part of the work. In some extreme cases, particular songs are replaced, which definitely changes the original feel of something.

Also related, YouTube and other sharing sites mute audio or limit accessibility to videos that contain copyrighted music, so there's that to contend with even past the initial PS4 sharing limitations.

I understand why it's done, but it does kinda suck to have your videos muted or blocked. In my opinion, music will be the biggest factor that affects what is able to be shared.

abzdine4440d ago

Every social media has limitations in terms of online chart and confidentiality.
It is for example not allowed to share some types of videos on YouTube or some types of photos on FB end those boundaries are set by the owner of the service, the same should happen with Sony and share because it is subject to so many standard rules and agreements.

I dont see that as a limitation i see that as a customer and developer protection.

Blacktric4440d ago

"The creator may not want to make video of the final boss sharable, for instance,” Yoshida stated to 4Gamer.net (via Edge)."

"B-but you won't need an HD PVR with PS4."

Told you people to keep dreaming when you were yapping about how the share button was going to make HD PVRs obsolete for most users.

3-4-54440d ago

The best use of this is for GTA5...if it ever gets to this platform...

All the crazy stuff you did others can now see.

I've done way cooler or crazier stuff with friends in that game than 95% of the GTA4 videos I've seen on youtube...

* Find a cool glitch or easter egg ? Instantly uploaded!

Dee_914440d ago (Edited 4440d ago )

@MikeMyers Well yea you can work around it using something else other than the share botton.But I think the point of the article was about the share button,not using hardware to record gameplay.As far as they are concerned it will work with the share button.They cant control what you record using something other than the share button.

Looking at that screenshot I can definitely tell PD had some input on the design of the UI.
I cant wait to make my own videos.But I know with this ALOT of gamer channels are about to pop up on youtube when ps4 release lol

BitbyDeath4439d ago (Edited 4439d ago )

@Blacktric, not many people have a PVR. Infact i don't know anyone who has one.

The share button makes this feature open to everyone.

SilentNegotiator4439d ago

@Blacktric

You sure showed that one guy who said that one thing that one time that you're pretending was some significant sized group.

SLEDGE4439d ago

My guess would not be "Spoilers" but more stuff like nudity, and m+18 stuff.
Or things like the Airport scene in MW2 that was a "OPtional" mission.

@Plastica-man

http://i.imgur.com/Q1dPa.jp... There are ofcourse work arounds :)

But as long as I can put it the HDD and retrive it too my PC, i'd bee happy about it.

ThanatosDMC4439d ago

@plastica-man

Mostly Capcom games doesnt let you take screenshots. Really annoying.

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-Superman-4440d ago

“There will be parts of a game that the maker does not want people to be able to see. For example, on Vita, developers can in certain scenes disable the feature that lets users take a screenshot, and (the Share function) will have a similar mechanism. The creator may not want to make video of the final boss sharable, for instance,” Yoshida stated to 4Gamer.net (via Edge).

Knight_Crawler4440d ago (Edited 4440d ago )

Wait I am confused... didn't Sony announce that the PS4 would let you live stream your gameplay to your friends ,this way if you were stuck on a level your friends would be able to help you or take over and beat the level for you.

How is live stream gameplay different than the captured card feature that the share button will have - the content that the live stream will show is the same content that the capture card will show so why restrict one and not the other?

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

KwietStorm_BLM4440d ago

Yep that's a good point. Would kind of be silly if you can live stream but are restricted with what you can record and upload.

MysticStrummer4440d ago

I'd say live streaming to friends who have a PS4 is different than uploading to YouTube or some other site, but I don't know how they'll control one more than the other. There will be ways to work around whatever restrictions they put in.

MonkeyNinja4440d ago (Edited 4440d ago )

I'm glad they're doing this, because I was worried about spoilers being uploaded from a game.

But this way, users shouldn't be able to upload a video that gives away a major plot point or who the final boss is, etc.

Didn't Sony also say that you could upload videos to Ustream? I don't think they said anything about YouTube, but I could be wrong. I don't think you can upload directly to YouTube through the share button.

Garbanjo0014439d ago

There is a lot of negativity about the share button, and whether it will even be used. Personally, I like the concept. Sharing EVERYTHING is something I don't want to see on my buddies accounts. However, I do want to watch some people rage while killing a shit ton of ghouls on the next fallout.

MYSTERIO3604439d ago

I personally cant wait for the PS4, this news hasn't put a dampener on my anticipation in the slightest. As MS has pioneered the growth of online gaming and apps for consoles i have a feeling Sony will pioneer cross sharing and the user experience in general.

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Arai4440d ago

It's to prevent spoilers in games so the experience isn't ruined for others.
Handy especially if you don't have the game yet, last thing you want is someone to ruin the ending for you.

claterz4440d ago

if you don't want it ruined for you then you don't search for the video. its not like it will just pop up in front of you unexpectedly. Imo this is a pretty big deal as a lot of people were expecting a fully functional built in recording feature to avoid the need of an expensive capture card.

DoomeDx4440d ago

The share button puts everything on your facebook wall. Dont friends love to post spoilers in the title :)

NBT914440d ago

On the WII U, you can upload screenshots etc and just mark any spoilers as spoilers, where they are hidden until one clicks on them.

The reasons that is not ideal is, you don't know how far in the game the post is. It could be the mid way point which you are at, or it could be the ending, no way to know until you click that post, by then it is too late. Plus people just forget to mark them as spoilers a lot of times.

As for your suggestion about only having the level name, even that is still not great. Imagine if MGS4 released on PS4 and people were reading the titles "Act 4 - Shadow Moses", thus it can still reveal a lot about the game.

I think that this way on PS4 is much better. There is no reason to be able to upload ending scenes. I think it is more for sharing goals on FIFA, decent killstreaks in an FPS, hole in one on Tiger Woods, you know the kind of thing? That's what I felt it was being advertised as, not really as a tool for complete playthroughs...

Arai4440d ago (Edited 4440d ago )

I read about this last night on NeoGAF, there's a whole discussion about it.
To those disagreeing you might actually want to read the original article and this discussion:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

It makes perfect sense, this "article" could use a better title.

@ claterz what about friends sending you a video, you don't know it's content before viewing it.

Nevertheless it's a rough translation, I'm sure we'll get concrete information within the next 7 months.

claterz4440d ago

I see what your saying but using the example you gave, wouldnt't it be easier to have the system add the level of the game in the title of the video? That way you can decide whether or not you want to watch it, and the player can still have some freedom in terms of what they want to record.

baodeus4439d ago

@arai

"@ claterz what about friends sending you a video, you don't know it's content before viewing it. "

If PS4 improve on connection/cross game chat/etc.....it is really that hard to add a spoiler alert/note on video that you send to your friends?

Garbanjo0014439d ago

Exactly. I am seeing a lot of negative posts about the share button. As I said above I like the concept. I don't want to watch the next spoiler of a game I want to play badly. That's just stupid.

jcnba284440d ago (Edited 4440d ago )

The Wii U has a function where you can tag your post as a "spoiler" before you post it on Miiverse so people will have the option to view it or not. I'm sure sony will have something similar to this with their sharing options.

mcstorm4440d ago

Lol like how you got some disagrees because you said the Wiiu has a spoiler option. I think your right I see both Sony and Microsoft having options like this on there next consoles.

OC_MurphysLaw4440d ago

I think the disagrees are for Sony having a similar spoiler tag system. Seems like Sony will just let devs block content instead and thus avoid the spoiler issue altogether by controlling what can be recorded.

wishingW3L4440d ago (Edited 4440d ago )

so basically the share button is useless? Because seriously this kind of kills the point of it.

OC_MurphysLaw4440d ago

Yes and no. Yes from a video upload point of view since it will have limitations but don't forget the share button is most assuredly tied into sharing you screen play..

OC_MurphysLaw4440d ago

Point of clarification. .. the button won't be useless. The recording video will have some limitations so for some that may seem "useless" but there clearly will be more functionality to it regardless.

lodossrage4440d ago

As the article states, the game makers themselves will have the option to pick and choose what can't be shared.

smashcrashbash4439d ago (Edited 4439d ago )

Exactly. If the developer decides they want to keep certain things from people because of spoilers and such it is up to them not Sony. Once again the blame goes to Sony when it will be the developers who are deciding if they want to do it or not.For example Two Souls which is mostly story based Quantic Dreams might decide not to use the share button at all so everyone can work it out themselves.Others can decide that they don't care what you share and not use it at all therefore no restrictions. Sony is giving them the option and it is not a rule set in stone or Sony's decision. Why is it that Sony haters AND fans over react to EVERYTHING? If a developer wants to keep something from everyone that is up to them and their reasons.You don't read, talk crap, then wonder why you get disagrees

Hicken4440d ago

Basically? How did you even come to that conclusion?

a_squirrel4440d ago (Edited 4440d ago )

And here I wanted to upload myself dancing naked in front of the TV.
ANOTHER LIMITATION.

OC_MurphysLaw4440d ago

LOL...can we agree that is a good limitation?

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hesido4440d ago

I don't remember them claiming that everything could be shared. Most things will shareable, don't worry. It's for the good of everyone. Those that are really really interested in sharing spoilers can still buy themselves a capture card, if that was your main purpose.

lodossrage4440d ago

They never said EVERYTHING was shareable.

Not just that, if you read the article, the INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPERS are the ones that make the choice on what they do/ don't allow to be shared.

banjadude4440d ago (Edited 4440d ago )

Besides people not even reading the article, it would seem these trolls have "selective memory" too. SMH.

LoveOfTheGame4439d ago (Edited 4439d ago )

Well in the same sense if PS4 let devs control whether their used games are able to work or not and then say the PS4 plays used games it makes the point moot if most devs make their games unusable if used.

Edit: It won't necessarily be a lie but more a way to cover themselves.

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Ace Combat Celebrates 30th Anniversary With Promise to "Take Flight Once Again" and More

The Ace Combat series celebrates its 30th anniversary, and Bandai Namco revealed interesting initiatives, on top of a poignant message.

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darthv7222h ago

That controller looks like a cheap knockoff... it should have been a proper DS5 design.

darthv7220h ago

...the VR aspect in 7 IS the redeeming quality.

Abriael19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

what a dumb take.

Ace Combat 7 is one of the best games of the past generation. It doesn't need VR gimmicks to "redeem" it.

TheColbertinator12h ago

I have enjoyed nearly every single Ace Combat to death (except that helicopter shooting one) and have never needed VR once to enjoy it greatly

PapaBop3h ago

^^^ I'm guessing you've never actually tried it in VR then? VR elevates games like this way beyond just a gimmick, just ask any GT fan who owns a PSVR 2. You may not need VR to have a good time but it's an absolute game changer and something that shouldn't be dismissed as a gimmick.

S2Killinit3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

@Abriael
Spoken like someone who never played it. But who are we kidding. We know why VR hate. No one is fooled here.

Abriael2h ago(Edited 1h ago)

@PapaBop: I tried it in VR before any of you ever did, since the game wasn't even out yet. It's a gimmick, disjointed from the AC7's main gameplay and far removed from its best parts.

It's nothing more than a limiting factor, as Ace Combat's most complex missions require hardware power to be focused on other things. That's why the VR missions are very basic.

If you think Ace Combat's strengths are even close to the platform it's on, VR or non-VR, you obviously aren't an Ace Combat fan.

In any case, I suggest you folks prepare yourself for disappointment. There's a reason why the VR gimmick was never expanded, and it's that, besides a few fanatics who care for evangelizing their VR fad more than they care for the franchise, no one gave a flying F.

The developers are going to use the resources to make the whole game better for everyone instead.

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S2Killinit3h ago

VR was the best thing that happened to Ace Combat. You kidding?

yeastori1h ago

VR is perfect for this type of game wdym

Abriael15m ago

It's a perfect way to limit this type of game.

CrimsonWing6921h ago

Look, I’m a simple man. I see Ace Combat and say, “Yes!”

Abnor_Mal20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

Can we get a new Ace Combat, with full vr and not just three or four levels, for PS5 and PSVR2
Also if we could get a remake of my all time favorite, Ace Combat5: The Unsung War, again with full vr for every mission with DualSense and flight stick haptics.

yeastori1h ago

I just want them to remaster AC4 and AC5, a new AC with better more realistic looking world and planes would be great too

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Lionsguard11h ago

I knew holding off playing it for 10 years was the right call.

ocelot078h ago

I remember playing this for the first time on the PS4 and it knocking me sick and hurting my eyes due to the horrible motion blur and FPS.

Played it a lot on pc a year later. Then again on ps5 once they dropped the 60fps update. I'll be giving it another go. Mad how they have kept updating this game for 10 years.