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MGS4 Confirmed 50GB Blu-ray?

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"It was revealed last month that a Blu-ray disc wasn't big enough to hold all languages for the upcoming Metal Gear Solid 4. Since all previous Playstation 3 games have resorted to the more constricted 25GB Disc, it was unclear whether MGS4 was to stray from this trend.

In a Konami retailers meeting yesterday, it was exposed that the game would be produced on a 50GB Blu-ray disc. "

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mighty_douche5884d ago

Oh, i heard it was fitting on 25gb, no worries...

durrrr..

Breakfast5884d ago

thats a huge ass game...imagine mgs 5 on the ps4

mighty_douche5884d ago

MGS4 is the last MGS :( or :) I'm not sure which it should be?

Breakfast5884d ago

ooo...i didnt know... i hate it when big games like this and halo have an ending. Hopefully we'll get a spinoff or something...a GOOD spinoff

Meus Renaissance5884d ago

It's the last with Snake. Not the discontinuation of the franchise.

MURKERR5884d ago (Edited 5884d ago )

dont we all just feel like applauding sony for the risk they took in putting bluray in every console

it was a gamble that could and nearly DID bring down their empire, getting bashed from every website known to man.

lots of people say microsoft have eggs on their faces its not just microsoft its numerous websites who are also eatin humble pie

tidus0075884d ago

damn so good to own a PS3

not only you have the best game for 2008 but it is CONFIRMED TO BE EXCLUSIVE too

Kenshin_BATT0USAI5884d ago

Last Metal Gear SOLID. But there will be more Metal Gear (insert title)to come hopefully.

liquidsnake5884d ago

I know what you're saying mate. But I wan't worried, never. Sony is a big f''king company who has been around for decades. I think they know alot better what they are doing than some random yaahoo from a random website.

c-redz5884d ago

why did games leave cartridge... we would have no worry about how much it can hold!!! might be a little bigger but sh*t you could have like a year long game on one of those 1 TB cartridge

cmrbe5884d ago

I think meus is right. In any case.Future MGS without Snake is going to be tough for me. I'll ware a black arm band for a week in remembrance if he dies in MGS4.

sonarus5884d ago (Edited 5884d ago )

MGS4 confirmed GOTY (lol opinion)
Well 50Gb is a lot of data. Let me clarify all mgs4 cut scenes have ALWAYS been done in real time so i don't expect to see anything but. This is going to be the biggest of the 3 games. For sure there will be tons of cinematics but the gameplay should be longer this time around. Overall a fantastic game i can't wait to play.

ps3 haters disagree all you want, MGS4 still remains exclusive

f7ss15884d ago

thats completely outrageous, that about the size of a small hardrive haha

sonarus5884d ago (Edited 5884d ago )

How could they have made this game multiplatform??? Think of how the quality would have suffered. Nice to know they are nearing release though.

lol @breakfast how am i turning it into a flame war. The reason why COD4 got so much praise was what it was able to achieve on both platforms. If mgs4 had been built on both consoles, something would have had to give for sure. Kojima would have been forced to tone down his dreams and aspirations for this game. Even though he still had to tone it down for 40GB. Since future 100GB blu ray will be compatible with ps3 i wonder if anyone will ever use that

Breakfast5884d ago

Thanks for the info guys....

@ Sonarus
Dont turn this into a flame war

Glad to be a gamer5884d ago (Edited 5884d ago )

Sony really did go out on a limb to push the industry forward and i commend them for it.

But my only worry is that Br may not be the right direction as far as games are concerned. I say this because of the read times of br drives. This has meant that games cannot be compressed and to get them to run at a good frame rate a large part of the disc must be saved to the hard drive. I mean if mgs4 can't fit on a normal Br disc whats gonna happen in 3-4 years time.

Anyone got a view on this?

I am hoping that mgs4 will be bigger and better than ever but uncompressed video plus uncompressed sound for various languages will take up a fair bit of space. Not to mention the uncompressed game its self.

Glad to be a gamer5884d ago

Man i can't believe it's almost here.

Genesis55884d ago (Edited 5884d ago )

The size of a small hard drive. It's 2 1/2 times the hard drive size of a 360 pro.

meepmoopmeep5884d ago (Edited 5884d ago )

i see where you're going with this and i agree, but i have a feeling this and future gen consoles will require a standard HDD for caching and consoles will soon become much like PC's with initial installs. I think they should try to find a better faster alternative for the next gen.

Cartesian3D5884d ago

damn it kojima.. why MGS4 is the last in series? :(
with firmware update PS3 games can be on 100GB Blu-ray..

and anybody knows.. that MGS4 will be the first 50GB game in history ?
such an EPIC ending ( sad but EPIC )..

Glad to be a gamer5884d ago (Edited 5884d ago )

Yeah i suppose the hard drive will be the key. I was pissed that ms did not make a hard drive mandatory as games like pgr 4 could of done with it. i mean pgr3's dynamic light effects were amazing but they scrapped them for 4 for static lights placed round the maps because of lack of space.

Don't get me wrong the game is still great looking but it could of been even better.

Im just hoping that br's slow read times can be combated by hard drive caching as i for one am expecting great things from Sony. Just don't want to be disappointed. For me if Mgs4 and GT5 lives up to expectations then my mind will be put completley at ease.

nsky1715883d ago

When reading Single Layer DVD, the xbox 360 will read faster then the BD drive on PS3.
But when Reading double Layer DVDs, the xbox 360 will be slower then the BD drive on the PS3.

most games on the xbox 360 are double layer now.

Mu5afir5883d ago

MGS 4 is not the last MGS game, it is probably the last game with Snake as the main character. Kojima already stated that if there is demand for another game, he would be more then willing to make it.

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skynidas5884d ago

This game will be awesome, if it needs a 50gb disc, it means that is a large game maybe 20-25 hours...CANT WAIT!!

socomnick5884d ago

Well it could also mean that it is uncompressed. I expect a 10 hour game It will probably be around the same length as previous mgs games.

Vertius5884d ago

You get through an MGS in 10 hours? MGS3 took me 26 hours to complete.

LJWooly5884d ago

When you get past all the cutscenes in MGS games, there's usualy about a 10-hour game there :)

COD4 and Halo were both about 5 hours each, and everyone loved those two, which goes to show that the length of the game doesn't matter all that much, as long as it has something to back it up.

COD4 makes up for having one of the best campaigns ever and a great online, while Halo made up for it with the online.

As long as MGS4 carries on the usual awesomeness, I'm happy.

eagle215884d ago

There is a gaming heaven....Kojima, thank you kind sir....

athlon7705884d ago

It does not say the game uses 50gb of space, simply that it is using the 50gb disc. The last I read they were trying to get it down to use the 25gb disc so even if the game is only 26.2gb, it is going to use the 50gb disc.

"Many presumed that Kojima decided to go with a 25gb Blu-ray disc to save on costs, but it was yesterday revealed in a Konami retailers meeting that the game is the biggest of the series, and will be presented on a 50GB disc"

Still very cool to hear that there is so much content to require the use of a 50gb disc. Sony is def smiling now showing that the Blu-Ray drive was and is the correct choice for future gaming.

tweaker5884d ago (Edited 5884d ago )

Athlon, I'm guessing they actually did fill an entire 50gig BR for MGS4. We wouldn't hear problems from Kojima about the exclusion of Japan voiceovers in NA versions and vice versa if they only used 26.2 gigs.

Burekman5884d ago (Edited 5884d ago )

From what I understand, they don't have enough space to fit japanese voice over on that 50 gig blu-ray. So they must have come pretty close to filling it up.

What your saying is voice overs take 20GB of space? That just doesn't sound right.

ZeroXMD5883d ago

Actually, not that long ago, they said that they had to make some cuts to the game so that they could fit it all onto the 50gb blu-ray. Really, this article is kinda old. but yea, they said that about a week ago. so this game is going to take all 50 gigs of the disc. Heck, kojima requested a dual layer blu-ray about half a year ago because he had already filled the single layer.

athlon7705883d ago

I stand corrected. I just can't see voice over taking so much space. wierd. I read the article totally different. If you guys say it is confirmd that the 50gb of space is being used, then I say that is both cool and troubling. Only a year and a half out of the gate, and games are already filling up a 50gb disc. Sorry, that still does not sound right. I just can not believe they filled up a 50gb disc!

I am very supprised about that.

ZeroXMD5882d ago

but in that article i read, he said that he had already filled the single layer with just the audio. I'm not sure, but if that is the case, i could see that only if there is an absolute shht-load of battle-field noise. Cause this game will be on a battle-field alot so there could be alot of different voices. This IS kojima, and he likes to go all out. I could see him thinking "too many games have too little different pedestrian/extra's voices. Lets get a crap load, like over 150 different people to do the voices of the different soldiers and different sounding explosions, not the same old ones. We have a crap load of space, so lets fill as much as we can." In a way, it goes along with how he said this game has to do with "sense". So he prolly wants to overwhelm your senses.

Again, not for sure, wish i could find the article, but that's how I see it. But Kojima is my writing idol so I'm a little bit bias when it comes to him. (I'm a starting-Author)

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SeanScythe5884d ago

Talk about sweetness! Just to think we get to unleash this beast on our PS3's. Then off to online battles. Can't wait to play this game in it's HD glory in june.

techie5884d ago

That's if they actually knew it was....Konami officials in the meeting that is. i don't know if this really is confirmed. Hm

Keowrath5884d ago

Deep, quick question off topic (kinda) Have you Photoshopped Drake into Big Boss? =)

techie5884d ago

Drake has been Snakefied :)

Loor5883d ago

@keowrath it's from a hilarious thread at neogaf "MGS4 - Snakify your Avatar ~ OP has them all!" Laughed my ass of at work while reading. Some really nice GIFs

back to topic. 50GB ?? uncompressed sound and vids + bose surround sound system = win !

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro46d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv7246d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_46d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga45d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos45d ago (Edited 45d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt2345d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball200046d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin46d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole46d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix46d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel198946d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel198946d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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One Last Smoke - The significance of Snake's cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4

An article looking at the symbolic meaning behind the cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots.

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Hideo Kojima laments that Metal Gear Solid 4's digital battlefield 'is no longer science fiction'

Game creator Hideo Kojima is and probably will always be best-known for his creation and stewardship of the Metal Gear series at Konami, which since his departure has been more-or-less on permanent hiatus (don't mention Survive). In his almost three decades these games evolved to the point where they predicted certain problems of the information age (MGS 2), took aim at contemporary topics like Guantanamo Bay (MGS: Ground Zeroes), and ended on a profound sense of sadness about our species' inability to break the cycles of global conflict (MGS V).

It's not clear what sparked this reflection, but Kojima's been thinking about Metal Gear Solid 4, an entry that was (and unfortunately still remains) a PlayStation 3 exclusive. In that entry the player controls an aged Solid Snake in the year 2014, caught up in a civil war being fought between Private Military Companies (PMCs).

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Dirty_Lemons356d ago

That was a great fucking game/ movie.

DarXyde356d ago

To this day, it's one of those games where I refuse to skip the cutscenes, no matter how many playthroughs I've done.

But if you ask me...MGS2 was bloody prophetic and has aged like fine wine. That game was blasted as the weakest entry, and yet it's so enduring. I replayed it some time last year and it was remarkable.

sadraiden356d ago

Heed not the lamentations of people that say that MGS2 is bad because of the Snake/Raiden bait and switch. Every MGS game has its own merits, and while most people consider 3 to be the best, they all shine equally in my opinion.

porkChop356d ago

@sad

I would generally agree but with the exception of MGSV. It had truly excellent gameplay/combat, but dull and largely empty open world(s), and a narrative that is literally only half finished.

I really wish Kojima hadn't tried to go open world with MGS. It just wasn't right for the series. But I get it. He didn't want to make MG anymore but he wasn't allowed to make anything else. So he had to experiment within that franchise. Still, it was the wrong direction.

Santouryuu356d ago

I have been thinking about this a lot, MGS2 being the weakest and getting blasted.
My conclusion, for some years now, it's my favorite game of the series.
Going from MGS1 to MGS2 was such a big leap, in graphics, mechanics, etc.
And now it's even more relevant for being 'bloody prophetic' as you stated.

Maybe dust of my vita and play it again...

porkChop356d ago

It's a shame we never got a remaster of MGS4. The original game only rendered at 1024x768, and it ran anywhere from like 20fps to 60fps depending on the area. A remaster could have very easily cleaned up the visuals and performance. It's such a great game. I just want to play it again but in its best possible state.

MIDGETonSTILTS17356d ago

I agree, but they did all sorts of tricks to make use of the ps3’s cell processor….they’d probably have to rebuild the game in order to make it run on another machine. And, if that involves remaking those cutscenes somehow, then itll never happen, unfortunately.

porkChop355d ago

Nah. There have been plenty of remasters of PS3 games and they've turned out fine. It can be done.

ANIALATOR136355d ago (Edited 355d ago )

You can get near enough 4k 60 with it on RPCS3 these days

FallenAngel1984355d ago

War... war never changes. Or does it? The war has changed ...did it? The answer is no! Unless it is yes! No, of course it is! Is war! Yes! No! Yes?

PitbullMonster355d ago

Ah a man of culture. Duty calls

cell989356d ago

He was always ahead with this series. MSG1 taught me about the importance of passing on our genes into future generations but in a responsible way, for they are bound to what we experienced in our lifetime. Sons of liberty taught me about global control and simulation runs to test society in a grand scale, the importance and dangers of control of information. MGS3 taught me about patriotism and how that can blind you into doing things you never would have otherwise, all for the sake of politicians who only see you as another pawn in their grand scheme of things. MSG4 taught me war is inevitable and always orchestrated because it's great for the economy. Soon simulation systems will start dictating who goes to war and why, all run through proxies. Privatization of military company are already here. We already started to see how a small group of elites dictates everything that happens. Nothing is done, nothing happens without strings being pulled.

Eidolon356d ago

You learned all this from MGS?

Tody_ZA356d ago

All that was literally the themes and core story of each game, so not surprising he learned that from MGS. Metal Gear Solid 2 in particular is so relevant today, it was more than a decade ahead of its time and a work of genius. Kojima saw what the digital future was going to become when it was in its infancy. Even MGS 5 despite being unfinished and less of a traditional Metal Gear Solid game with regards to story, had a fair bit to say about language and control over it that is relevant today.

It's a highly acclaimed series for a reason, and one of my favourite.

Eidolon356d ago

I've watched my brother play the MGS games, but I only beat MGS1 myself on the PSP in 2014, and MGSV in 2016. I took the themes and plots as lore, tbh.. trying to piece together the story of MGS rather than relating them to our current times.

Tody_ZA356d ago

It's definitely social commentary, Eidolon. You should read the "themes and analysis" section of the Wikipedia page for MGS2: Sons of Liberty for a start! Game was heavy on this.

Eidolon356d ago

I'll take a look, thanks. Actually might pick up MGS2 again (PS Vita), It's been years since I last played. Might start a new game tbh.

sadraiden356d ago

MGS2 literally predicted digital manipulation of information that we see today all the way back in 2001. MGS2 became Zucc's playbook.

Knushwood Butt356d ago

MGS taught me not to pee my pants.

cell989355d ago

Yes back in 1998 when I was 13. Throughout the years more information has been shown on this subject matters, but go back to early 2000s and information wasn't as prominent. Kojima was ahead of the game

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MaxiPower90356d ago

He was on the ball about many things. A true visionary.

sadraiden356d ago

If it wasn't for the retconning of how FOXDIE works, including clunky scenes with Naomi and Liquid, MGS4 would be a perfect game. There are so many gameplay options. It felt like us PS3 owners got something truly unique and special.

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