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Developers, please take note of Naughty Dog’s inclusion of women

The ideology that only certain subgenres of games appeal to women needs to radically change before we can begin to work on other sexist issues within our community.

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Ashunderfire864090d ago

Women are now the new target audience. They starting to play the same games as men, and are almost half the gaming public. Women into gaming has evolved like women into sports. There should be no discrimination against women. Us men need to be better stewards of the gaming industry.

krontaar4090d ago

Oh please. "farmville" doesnt count as a game.

rainslacker4089d ago

By who's criteria? It meets every definition of what a game is according to almost every book written by every industry vet on what a game is.

It's not a "hardcore" game, but it is still a game. It's just not one that appeals to you, but I would wager the people that play it aren't attracted to anything that we hold up high.

TheFirstClassic4090d ago

Women may or may not take up half of the "gaming public", I don't know, but they do NOT buy as many games as men. They are not the target audience, and you are much more likely to achieve high sales by targeting men, not women.

Testfire4090d ago

Aww, such a gentleman, now excuse me while I throw up. Men are men, women are women. Different hormones and in general different tastes. Sure there are women that like violent games but in general they don't. Sure there are men who like Cooking Mama and Animal Crossing, but in general they don't. I really cannot stand people like you that want the world to be one big androgynous society. Grow a pair and act like a man.

Ashunderfire864090d ago

I am a man, and I am just stating the facts. There nothing wrong with women and men liking the same thing anyway. Your a female I assume. You should realize the change in women, in terms of entertainment. Look at the many sports commentor that are women now, and women watching sports. They actually even know the team player names. Nintendo Wii help bring more women into gaming also. Don't forget that the game Portal was a woman's idea and etc. Lady take that pair and go suck or stuff it. I kid I kid LOL!!! But you should still take notice of the change.

Wenis4090d ago

Hold up, I get the point you made with genders liking certain games, but dude, Animal Crossing is the bomb no matter what your gender.

Why o why4090d ago

Im with wenis

Cooking mama's alright too.

GribbleGrunger4090d ago

So you're saying that the inclusion of women as leads in games is because more women are playing games? That's rather a shallow view. I watch films with female leads because I find the character interesting, not because it's a female lead. This world is full of diversity. To define something based on just one of those diversities is missing the point. Do you honestly think that ND sat down and included a female lead just because they thought women would then play it? Give me a break. They included characters that their story required. It's as simple as that.

Ashunderfire864090d ago

14 disagrees yet one person sees the point. Thanks to the Blue Ocean strategy by the Nintendo Wii, which many of you forgot, brought us those female and older audiences to gaming in a revolutionary way. Need I remind you that females are about 40 percent of gamers(And still growing). So take your disagrees and go shove it!!! It is very true that the gaming industry in a way is a bit sexist, and we need to be better stewards. Atleast that we can agree on. Yeah men are still the main audience, but women are the new target audience. I did not say the most targeted, so get that straight people!!!

TheFirstClassic4090d ago

If they are THE target audience, then they are the most targeted, or should be the most targeted for success.. That's just what that means. The Blue Ocean strategy has its weakpoints, strong hardware sales and lowerr software sales. That's why wii's third party support was so low. The casuals may play a game every once in a while, but they won't buy that many.

Pushagree4090d ago

Appealing to a target audience is not the same as discrimination. Saying video games are sexist for not appealing to women who don't buy them in the first place is like saying The View is anti-man for not featuring explosions, fist fights, and constant swearing.

user76939584090d ago (Edited 4090d ago )

what did he/she say?
lol

I guess Kinect is the new hardcore audience.. wait! I did not say it or think this way.. it was M$ don't blame me ..

PS4v

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Ewok4090d ago

It's a circle. Developers think women don't play games, so they target their games at men, so women don't buy them, so developers think women don't play games, so....

We are lucky to have three female writers on staff right now and we've had emails from female readers saying it's quite refreshing to read a publication that isn't male dominated - so I know that female gamers are out there!

brbobcat4090d ago

Another day, another article about "female gaming." Not that this one is irrational; on the contrary, it's one of the more constructive articles about sexism in gaming. Still, these type of articles focused on gender in the gaming industry are getting stale.

Sketchy_Galore4090d ago

Ellie is about thirteen isn't she? If that's a woman there are a few angry mobs that owe me an apology.

Ps. Yeah, I know that wasn't really the point of the article but I had the bad joke in my head and had to get it out. Pretty good article overall. I never particularly opposed women in gaming since I'm not some kind of savage but I must admit until recently I kinda didn't take the issue as seriously as maybe I should have. I still think many critics complaining about sexism in gaming go way too far and pick silly examples but it cannot be denied that there is some degree of sexism behind the scenes. That My little pony comment is just idiotic for one thing.

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Neil Druckmann: Philosopher gamer behind 'The Last of Us'

who is now the sole leader of Naughty Dog, “I promise you, we will not be ‘The Last of Us’ studio forever.” Numerous games, he said, are in the works, including “multiple single-player projects.

Lightning7720d ago

I know he has a celebrity like status but unless he's announcing his game soon idc what he has to say from this point on.

We need announcement something from him.

Crows9018d ago

The dude is a nobody. He's also wrong. Naughty dog is the uncharted and Jak daxter studio.

They only made one universally praised last of us game. They're not know as "the last of us studio" but they are currently known as the "remake" studio.

Lightning7718d ago

I like his games tbh I'm just more upset at the fact that he's been talking and talking and not showing anything. I'm an actual fan of his work, don't cars if that's that's a popular take or not.

If he has nothing to show or talk about. I don't care about his interviews, his red carpet appearances or what's next for last Of Us 2 TV, leave that to Hollywood. You don't see SP, Bend, or any other studio doing what he's doing. They're remaining quiet and focused as most PS studios do. He should do the same. The next thing I wanna hear him say is "now heres our game" we know that probably won't be for another year or so, so he needs to remain silent and stay out of the limelight for awhile.

AsunaYuukiTheFlash18d ago

You are wrong. LOU2 won a lot of GOTY and was highly rated. It's okay to dislike the game but saying that ND just made one critical acclaimed LOU game is just hating at this point.

rippermcrip19d ago

Kind of a weird interview. No substance, hardly any questions. It's almost like they forgot to post the whole thing or something.

neomahi19d ago

Oh brother...... It's like a balloon filling with helium. He's got nothing new to say. Naughty Dog went from being a studio of numerous developers to being about him and what HE does. Bruce Straley was the co-creator of The Last of Us, and he left--I think for the same reason Christophe Balestra left and since then, Naughty Dog haven't been the same. PlayStation is incredibly woke, as all businesses seem to be these days, ignorant to what's really going on sacrificing the greater for peanuts, but I think they left because of the uprising political atmosphere. They knew there was nothing they could do about it and an attempt to try and combat it, in today's society would end them up in legal trouble so, they just left, what else can you do when the opposition behaves like a child, screams and yells louder than you want to in raged fits, and will throw lawsuits at you at whatever chance they can, but you don't play that way, so they left. And Naughty Dog hasn't been the same since.

Naughty Dog was huge at one time! They were the underdog that became the top dog but, the direction it's fine, just watch and wait. It's ego, and Druckmanns ego of thinking they're untouchable and can just coast along, will drop them rock bottom, in due time, they could see the same fate as Xbox's teams met. Fans will turn on Naughty Dog because A) Naughty Dog aren't producing, they're not what they once were.
B) Gamers ARE growing tired of the woke culture overtaking their lifetime hobby. They're just more silent about it, it's the quiet cool

anast19d ago

Non of this makes sense. I would like to think you didn't spend too much time writing it.

Crows9018d ago

I hope you didn't spend much time reading..it...cuz obviously you didnt understand it. But that's okay. There's many other comments to read...

MIDGETonSTILTS1719d ago

You project your own views on the world, and that is a mistake.

Crows9018d ago

Um...so you project someone else view on the world? What are you talking about?! We all project our view on the world lol...smh

anast18d ago

It's called perspective. I understand that. But I don't understand the poster.

smashman9818d ago

you know it's not his fault that people are interested in what he says, right?

Also, Naughty Dog is bigger than ever.

Crows9018d ago

Smaller....where's their last big game? Yeah...I remember when they were actually releasing heavy hitters.

smashman9817d ago

@Crows90 It was in 2020 and despite what a vocal minority says it was critically acclaimed and the 2020 game of the year. Not only that but The Last of Us is also a critically acclaimed television series and PlayStation's most successful foray into Film and TV yet.

So yes, Naughty Dog is bigger than ever, and just because you don't vibe with them or whatever does not change that fact.

anast19d ago

He's a solid theatre arts person, but he's not a philosopher. Being good at one thing doesn't mean he's Descartes.

DarXyde18d ago

I believe that philosophers are more principled than Druckmann, to be honest. It's fascinating that The Last of Us Part II was literally inspired by the Israel-Palestine conflict and was a needed commentary on humanity and ending the cycle of violence, only to have some questionable commentary after 7 October.

I don't hate the guy as some others seem to. He's been a big part of some great games, but I'll never understand the obsession with hanging on all of his statements.

Chard18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

That's a good point in relation to 7 Oct - a far more important issue where valid criticisms could have been made of this guy, but most here seem thoroughly distracted by trivial issues

anast18d ago

@DarXyde

Like all artists he has a signature. People that have an agenda will try to look for that signature and use it. This is why a lot of "journalist/game influencers" hang on every word. Most of us just enjoy his work and get hyped when he mentions something about a possible new game.

@Chard
"a far more important issue where valid criticisms could have been made of this guy"

Which is?

MIDGETonSTILTS1719d ago

Sony should try and stay radio silence outside of hard reveals.

It’s painful to wait for any info at all, but it’s less painful than skimming an interview that avoids all details whatsoever.

Commit to radio silence, Sony. You can afford to leverage the trust in gaming output that you’ve cultivated.

anast18d ago

That wouldn't be a smart decision. There must be a constant stream of connection in today's world.

MIDGETonSTILTS1716d ago

When a constant stream of connection delays a game 1-2 years, and said games take 5 years to make anyways…. Sony fans are better off trusting Sony to deliver than expecting frequent confirmation.

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The Sounds of the Fireflies ("The Last of Us") concert kicks-off on April 28th, 2024

"The Game Music Foundation are today very proud and pleased to announce an additional concert, circling back to the roots of Game Muisic Festival in Poland. On April 28th, 2024, the National Forum of Music in Wroclaw will once again become a place to celebrate the art of video game music, featuring scores from The Last of Us and The Last of Us Part II." - The Game Music Foundation.

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The Last Of Us Series Has Remarkable Potential For Spin-Offs

Najam from eXputer writes "It's time fore a new installment in the series, not another pointless remaster."

anast142d ago

They are working on something new. Not to be rude but it is impossibility stupid to think ND next major announcement is going to be a remaster or their next Last of Us entry is going to be another remaster.

AlterRecs139d ago

I think this is in response to them releasing a remaster for the sequel, a game that didn't need a remaster.

Basically a "why did you put out a remaster no one asked for when you have all there options available"

anast139d ago

They remaster is to put out something quick while they are deving new stuff. I don't get how people can be so static.

AlterRecs138d ago

There's no news about a third game being in production, you're just assuming that they're working on something that they aren't

anast138d ago

When they release the news to start the hype-train, you can give me my props then.

DrDoomer142d ago

I want an alternate timeline spin-off, where part 2 never happened.

CrimsonWing69142d ago

They’ve already done Remasters of 1 and 2… what else is there to Remaster?

AlterRecs139d ago

Considering they remastered the first game twice, who knows lol

CrimsonWing69139d ago

That was a Remake. I guess they could do that to 2, but man…. They should wait a couple generations so it can look like a major upgrade.