Xbox 720 Becoming the Wii/Wii U Confusing Mess

VG Republic Writes: Intriguing information about the Xbox 720 surfaced yesterday via VGLeaks, which reported from an anonymous source that the next Xbox system will not be required to be connected to an internet source to function. This is contrary to many reports that the system will need to have a secure connection constantly to work, and also negates the thought of creative director Adam Ortho's Twitter comments about the same issue and his support of it. The other reports that hit the web was that of the upcoming, disk drive-less, Xbox Mini which will be unveiled supposedly around the same time that the next console is shown to the general public will be a key player in the next console as well. We'll come back to this in a moment.

[VirtualKatz]

It's unfortunate that we are to this point but this is the case and direction the they look to be going. All of it is rumors to this point, but most solid rumors come from some bit of truth.

[Jek_Porkins]

Well the most solid rumors are that the DRM thing is something that got confused with the Xbox Mini, and the 720 will not require always online to play games, and it will also play used games.

Honestly, why gamer's always tend to believe the negative right away kind of baffles me, what on earth would Microsoft have to gain by eliminating used games and making their console DRM, which effectively means close to 30 million current 360 owners would be SOL.

There is nothing to be gained, Xbox Live Gold Subscriptions help cancel out the used game issues, and Microsoft doesn't even release digital games the same day they release physically for fear of pissing off retailers, so no way do they alienate themselves from the other consoles, they want to be as similar as possible as far as features and what is/isn't allowed.

[TheGrimReaper]

You've said: [...] and it (720) will also play used games.

Article:
"The small-i-fied system (new, driveless 360, priced 150$) will connect to the larger and newer Xbox to enable people to play games from the past generation on the new console. So in other words, Microsoft is hoping consumers will be dumb enough to buy another Xbox 360 without a disk player in it just so they can play 360 games on their new console instead of just keeping your current 360 console and playing the older generation games on it, in conjunction with playing the next-gen games on your new fangled technology."

Honestly, why fans always tend to spin anything until they like it kind of baffles me...

:P

It's about time MS announces the damn thing...
I'm curious which rumours (hardware, software, features etc.) are true -.-"

[Jek_Porkins]

@TheGrimReaper

Not sure what "spin" you are saying I'm trying to do?

This Xbox Mini is an Xbox 360 and is the rumored $99 Xbox 360 that will compete with Roku and work as a hub so if people choose to play 360 games on their 720's they have the option, honestly I'd love for Sony to come out with something similar, nobody is forcing people to buy it.

Rumor that is wont use DRM
http://stickskills.com/2013...

Rumor that it wont block used games
http://www.gamingcapacity.c...

There is a more recent rumor about the used game issue from yesterday.
http://www.nbcnews.com/tech...

*Edit*
@TheGrimReaper
It's all good, I wouldn't have posted it if I didn't read it myself, it seems that one of these articles was denied from being posted yesterday, not sure why we keep seeing the older rumors instead of the newer more positive one.

[TheGrimReaper]

Ohhhhh I've made a big mistake!!!
Sry I've misread "used games" and thought about old gen games...
2:30 am ...
I shouldn't comment at this time!

My deepest apologies to you Jek_Porkins!!!
Everything you've said is true and sounds plausible.

EDIT:
You've answered while I was writing this...
Sry you've had to use your last bubble!
And yes, these rumors keep contradicting themselves. E3 can't come soon enough.

[DEATHxTHExKIDx]

based completely on rumors. My GOD just wait till MS says something official. THEN complain!

[Qrphe]

I doubt it since Microsoft will put millions upon millions in advertising to make sure such scenario does not happen. A $200 million dollars campaign resulted in the success of over 20 million Kinect units sold.

[GamersRulz]

$500 million

[2pacalypsenow]

$500 million and 2 years later and no fuc*s are give about the kinect

[Software_Lover]

My family and I use kinect every other day. Fruit Ninja, Kinect Adventures, Netflix, Hole in the Wall. Good humorous fun.

Gaming is not about "being cool" its about having fun. Companies are just looking at different avenues to change the way we game. If they did not, we would still be using the Atari stick. Everything they make is not gonna be a success, just look at all of the different nintendo peripherals, but atleast they try.

[ALLWRONG]

"$500 million and 2 years later and no fuc*s are give about the kinect"

Sony does because they copied it.

[Qrphe]

Except millions of people bought it and proved to be successful. In fact, the Xbox 361 will openly go after that audience.

@ALWAYSWRONG

What is the EyeToy

[kirbyu]

EXCELLENT!!!!!!!

[AO1JMM]

It is sad how people get easily confused these days.

[Capital Dream]

You are absolutely right. People who shop in Ikea can't even use their common sense how can we expect for them to use it on anything else. In todays people, thinking is really starting to become a privilege.

[Software_Lover]

I dont see how it's confusing. You have the new xbox "durango" that will play all of the new games and have all of the features of the xbox 360 mini. You only need the xbox 360 mini if you want to play 360 games on your "durango" unit. You could also just keep your 360.

The 360 mini is a media box in the realm of apple tv etc. You can play downloaded games from the marketplace, ala itunes, that includes full retail 360 games that you download.

I think people make this harder than it actually is.

ADD TO THE FACT THAT ALL OF THIS IS A RUMOR.

[theWB27]

If people didnt pretend this was the so hard to follow...they wouldn't have crappy articles to write about a product that has no concrete information.

Like you said...it's not hard at all to follow the mis-info.

[ceedubya9]

Yeah, I'm not seeing how it is confusing. Seems pretty cut and dry to me.

[rainslacker]

It's not confusing the way you wrote it. It's not even confusing when you actually logically put together the information.

However the original post most people read about this was poorly written, and I had to read over it a few times to finally get what it was saying. This article made it worse by rambling on and repeating the same information while adding too much...I guess I'll call it jaded sarcasm. Basically this particular article is self-fulfilling. The author goes out of his way to make it confusing.

No doubt MS will put together a better presentation to distinguish the two, what they're capable of, and how they can interact together, assuming it's true of course.

[Capital Dream]

The problem is, is that they are doing it on purpose.

[US8F]

You can't compare the two. Microsoft fired an employee before a console reveal, and Nintendo didn't. Big difference!.

Just get orth of here.

[Belking]

Xbox 720 is getting ready to take over NA just like the 360 did. Get your fanboy tears ready.

[rainslacker]

That's great. Too bad the rest of the world combined is four times the market the US is. The old saying, "Don't put all your eggs in one basket" comes to mind. You think the rest of the world is going to care about Durango's media functions if they aren't getting media content to serve it? So many competing technologies and providers in that field...the biggest of which are the cable companies. MS is fighting a bigger market than gaming, and their competition is much more fierce than Sony or Nintendo.

[ichimaru]

with respect...where else would I put my eggs

[hellvaguy]

MS hasn't officially announced anything. Whereas the WiiU official announcement left more questions than answers. Seems like 2 different situations to me.

[Capital Dream]

Go tell that to the dumb ass whom copy and paste words to his site and calls it journalism . IV been and now I'm being censored.

[Bumpmapping]

In Nintendos defense at least they have games worth playing.

@Belking awww I stwuk a nerve little fella didn't I :D

[Belking]

In MS defense they aren't so broke they need to sell off buildings around the world to finance their product.

[Capital Dream]

Just to correct you a little bit on your comment. I'm not replying to be rude but Microsoft is no where being broke.

[StreetsofRage]

I stwuck??? Are you hunting wabbits Elmer Fud?

Lol.

[rainslacker]

Nintendo is selling off buildings? I thought they had money just sitting in the bank from the Wii's profits.

[Asuka]

Lol confusing my a$$. MS hasn't said a word about the new system yet. Its everyone else that is saying stuff and making the situation more 'confusing' then it actually is.

[r21]

The only thing im really really curious bout the nextbox is its name. Seriously, if that xbox 360 BC add on is called the Xbox Mini, whats the nextbox going to be called? I hope they're not actually considering calling it the xbox 720.

[josephayal]

I give my honest opinion, I never played a XBOX 720 in my life

[AO1JMM]

How can you get confused when there has been no announcement ? There isno official name forthe machine yet!

[Agent_hitman]

Xbox 720 is like Agent47, it doesn't even exist. All these urban legends makes me sick.. Well.. uhh.. Whatever.

[MultiConsoleGamer]

Speculation based on nothing. More fanboy spin. Author knows nothing about the final name of the console or how it will be sold to the public.

[ironmonkey]

i think there will be alot of dead servers on 720.

[Max-Zorin]

What confusion? Microsoft didn't say a word yet. It's just that people suddenly became too obsessed with these rumors.

[headblackman]

stop posting old info (especially when the same rumors have been debunked by those who posted them) and you idiots believing in them really need some help. PlayStation fanboys really want Xbox gamers to come over to the lame side so bad that they've gotta try to keep lies circulating in hopes that they will turn one Xbox simple minded gamers. the real Xbox fans know better. we know and knew that this was nonsense the day it got posted. we know that Sony and its fans put this garbage out and is keeping it going, but I'm sorry. there is nothing that can be done to evade your true fate. the next the first Xbox put the name out. the Xbox 360 tested the crown and was successful (in more ways than 1) the next Xbox will take and keep the crown while giving the competition the final blow and nail in the coffin. we know that you are scared but resistance is futile.

[NYC_Gamer]

What's to be confused about?nothing but rumors have been floating around the web with no solid weight.

[lema008]

It confusing as heck with developers, game sites and Brain Orthy and Manveer Heir twitter dialog- which I think was real and not just joking around. I can see where a lot of people would believe it's true. I guess we'll have to wait until E3 or in May to find out for sure.

Personally, I find it hard to believe they will implement the DRM thing for playing games. But that's probably where were headed in the furture as companies try to have more control over you.