Intel believes Nvidia is panicking

Fudzilla:

"An Intel representative has described Nvidia as a company in panic. We already told you that there is a big feeling that Nvidia and Intel have started to confront each other, and now we have some proof of it."

[General Pinky]

Why is that you ask?
Maybe because of the gaming industry is making people talk about games in a different way...its no more for children...
It’s for the big boys now... with the 18 + games.

[mighty_douche]

It's because people have become more interested in, hardware sale's/software sale's/review score's/comparison's with "rival console"/comparison's with "rival manufacturer" than the actual game's.

Everyone like's to play the analyst now, and from a journalist point of view, negative news is easier and get's you more attention than positive news.

[JsonHenry]

MightyDouche you took the words right out of my fingertips. : ) Bubble for you!

[season007]

more like the shifting of the gaming industry from PC to console...
instead of putting countless time on video cards, maybe they should develop for Sony PS4, xbox 720 or Nintendo Game Circle

there is less and less people who wants to spend 600bucks on display cards, there are simply NO game for you to play recently...

[Kakkoii]

That's a common misconception. When a person becomes like that, they start to think tons of other people think like that to.

But most of the people who upgrade there graphics cards will take a PC over a Console any day. And will continue to forever.

[Charlie2688]

funny that you mention that considering last year NVIDIA performed THE best on video cards and everyone one seem to have bought the 8800GT that got excellent reviews all around

and again why would you buy a $600 card? is there even one left at that price? last time I checked THE best card as of right now is priced at $300-$350 and still most sales come form the $200-$250 8800GT that seem to be flying off the shelves

funny the you menton price when NVIDIA has already promised that the new 9000 series will be as cheap as ever and the new revealed prices confirm this

[season007]

but you know what, i built my PC around a year ago, its E6600, 4gb of ram, striker extreme, 8800GTS 640mb, with 2 10000rpm hdd running in RAID 0...i don't really play a single PC game since i built it......

and yea i guess i am just used to upgrading my PC, but i can tell you for sure next time i will be spending more on CPU or HDD but definitely less on graphic card

[Baliw]

9000 Series are oveclocked cards.

[TheIneffableBob]

Do you seriously believe that, season007?

You are delirious.

[JsonHenry]

I don't believe the lie that PC gaming is dead or even going to die.

Consoles that surf the net, support keyboard and mouse, and rent movies online? Consoles are TRYING to become LOW COST PCs.

Consoles are mimicking PCs, not the other way around. And if you truly believe that consoles are the wave of the future, then ask your self this- Why do consoles try to be PCs so bad? Answer - BECAUSE PEOPLE REALLY WANT A PC LIKE GAMING EXPERIENCE!!

[solar]

bubble for you j. you see the light :D

[Scrooge]

For every PC gaming thread there is always one "PC gaming is dying" console boy to give his opinion, completely ignoring the fact that Crysis went platinum, Orange Box sold more on PC than consoles, and 8800gt sales are thru the roof. Dont get me wrong, I love the consoles too, but just cause you feel a certain way doesn't mean that its fact and deffinitely doesnt mean that everyone thinks the same way as you.

[solar]

@scrooge

bubble for you my friend. i own OB on the PC rather than my ps3. 1) because EA was doing the port...and we know how that smells (+ FPS superior with keyboard and mouse configuration), and 2) free content, mods, maps, game modes, constantly patched to fix annoyances and problems, and my personal fav! the young players are kept to very small number. once and a while you'll hear someone gabbing on the mic...you ask how old they are and bam! 8 yrs old. but they are well behaved 99% of the time, arent screaming profanities and actually strive to play team game to win. i like the more mature players of online PC MP games. always have...will never change.

[Charlie2688]

I find this VERY hard to believe considering NVIDIA was named company of the year 07 and had one of THE highest revenues last year, I guess Intel is angry at the fact that NVIDIA seems to be resisting the buyout

Also I find it ironic that they mention AMD/ATI as being the super one Intel is getting close to since as we probably all know AMD/ATI is REALLY the one thats is in "panic" state with the massive price slashes just to remain competitive and the bugs in the processors along with experts saying buy Intel and NVIDIA parts...

[meatnormous]

I just upgraded to a amd 5200 x2 and I have no problems with it at all. I was going to go intel but the prices are what kept me from doing that. I just wish a new killer game would get released so I can use my new pc to its potential.

[mirroredderorrim]

CEO of Epic games has already called this thing out in another article.

[Avto]

what Nvidia is saying is not quite true in gaming a better GPU is an advantage but the same is not true for general use plus Intel is way ahead with their multy core CPU which are much more powerful than Nvidia can imagine and I don't mean just the processing power I mean Intel is the king everyone knows Intel makes good CPU but not many know about GPGPU just think devs are too lazy to learn Cell who will bother with D9X. And if what Intel says about Ray tracing is true and their CPU will do it Nvidia's finished

[Kakkoii]

Not true.

Do you know the reason why GPU's have such a lower clock then CPU's?

It's because a GPU is alot more complex then a CPU.

Look it up for more info on it, I don't know enough to explain it fully.

[sak500]

I feel Intel has some change burning hole in its pockets. Maybe we see some takeover soon ;)

[Bleucrunch]

Nvidia is not going anywhere.....lol are you kidding me. When you say graphics card the first name you think of is Nvidia! Enough said!

[cjp4eva]

Bye bye Nvidia. Larabee ftw!

[Kakkoii]

Larabee ftl.

We need Nvidia And Intel to work together and make Larabee type processor's together. Nvidia has the technology and knowledge, Intel has the Experience, Tools, ability to make it great.

[heyheyhey]

perhaps

since CPU's like Cell are becoming capable of handling graphics, Nvidia will eventually have to shift to CPU manufacturing or die

but they certainly are still king of the GPU- ATI would die waay before Nvidia

[Tyrael]

Agreed Kakkoii. The most popular CPU and GPU combo out there for PC enthusiasts seems to be a high rated Intel Core 2 with an NVIDIA G force 8800 series. With these products flying off the shelves, they should be working together to milk the most out of this mutual relationship before AMD/ATI comes back with something even better.

[Gorgon]

Except that we need AMD/ATI to come up with something better so that we have competition. Don't you find it strange that it took 1,5 years to the 9000 series to come up? Not only that, but the 9000 is just a tweeked version of the 8000 series, not a whole new architecture? That's because there's no fight back from AMD.

If you want nice prices and new tech, you need all the competition you can get (wow, it rimes!)

[Tyrael]

Right you are. The competition is the best part for us especially when it comes to price.

[Kakkoii]

Yeah, This year both teams didn't really do anything WOW. So what 2 chips on a board. All you did was put SLI on one PCB to make things easier.

ATI pretty much won this year. Because ATI and Nvidia have equally matched power products this year. Except ATI has it for cheaper.

[Tyrael]

Which one of ATI's GPU's is the rival for Nvidia's 8800GT? Cause if its cheaper I might end up getting that instead.

[Kakkoii]

og1rd0r:

Well, Now that I look into it a little more.

Ati is only leading in price by 10-30 dollars. Which isn't that much.
But that's in the high-end. In the low end, there much cheaper.

In power, Nvidia has them beat a little bit.

ATI's new HD 3870 has shown to be almost as good as the 8800GT, If not the same. The 3870 Can be found for 10-30 dollars less then an 8800GT, and with double the ram of a sub 200$ 8800GT.

But if you have some money to spare, wait for the 9800GT and buy that, I'm sure it will bring a slight improvement to the already great 8800GT.

I actually think Nvidia is in the lead now, There a bit pricier, But that little bit of extra money brings you more performance.

Although, I Personally. Am going to wait until Nvidia's next series. ATI & Nvidia's New series this year are a disappointment. And I'm thinking that the next series will be an explosion of performance.
And by that time, There should be more good games out to push the new cards :).

I think what they did this year, Is just an attempt for both companies to suck what ever money is left out of there 8 Series, before they move on up to more performance. And to give them more time to bring a much needed raise in performance.

[Charlie2688]

Dude I think you are forgetting something major like so many other people when complaining about the not so massive performance jump between the 8000 and 9000 series

NVIDIA basically already spoiled us with the new 8800GT and 8800GTS that are based around the new G92 tech that gave a massive performance upgrade to the old D8P tech of the 8000 series

take this into consideration, the new 8800GT has the same performance as the old 8000GTX and the new 8000GTS has the same as the 8800ULTRA and finally that the new 9600GT has slightly slower performance than the new 8800GT and this 9600 is a entry level card while the 8800GT is "midrange"

so what happened if we never had the new 8800 cards based on G92? it will mean that we basically would have had a entry level 9600GT with a somewhat similar performance to the "high end" 8800GTX and the other 9000 series card would have blow out of the water the 8000 series

but we were already spoiled :( at least for the entry and midrange of the 9000 series the high end could be a completely different story considering they are THE cheapest NVIDIA has launched their high end making the previous medium range buyers be able to actually afford the high end

[psnDevistator356]

I have a Nvidia 9600 and LOVE IT!!!

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Gentlemen...what we are seeing here is the beginning of the end.

The end of technology, of civilization, of the world.

It was fun.

[Bleucrunch]

Intel should stick to what they do best and leave the graphics business in the hands of the ones that know what they are doin.