Just thought I would share what I found while surfin the gamestop website.
a great idea by MS, cause now you will have to buy their special HDMI cable for your 360, unlike PS3 which will allow you to use any hdmi cable. very smart marketing decision to line your pockets and not your competitor's.
Actually yep you're right. It's a special connection, so a special cable. All HDMI cables are expensive though. The best thing is: Sony needs to put in special HDMI ports, while 360's port is just a digital out that can be used for whatever cable is on the market. Like it can do 1080p now, it gets a HDMI cable and actually it might be included with the HD-DVD add-on.
Nope, not all are expensive. In fact there are some as low as $7. The thing with HDMI, that people should know, is that either the cable works or it doesn't. People will pay anything, it's $200 so it must be good. Monster is ripping people off, and so is Microsoft if they're charging $100. Don't be fooled, the cheaper HDMI cables produce the same signal at the same quality.
Not cheap. Built Ford tough. You cant really tell the difference unless you compare on a really big HDTV, Radio shack $40 HDMI vs Monster $150 HDMI, i say Monster has a slight edge, it has deeper Black level. People are paying for the way HDMI cables are built not so much the BS you pointed out that everybody knows.
Mart said this figure a few days ago but obviously can accept the fact hdmi cables can be bought for coppers/cents..........yes there are expensive cables BUT, the average jonny will quick happily have a cheap as chips cable.
HDMI is a digital sytem not analogue. Ones and zeros are the only thing it carries. Either the cable functions or it doesn't. Saying a monster hdmi cable produces deeper blacks is like saying that the number one is way deeper on a monster cable than on a generic cable. It simply doesn't make sense. Resistance is the enemy here with these high frequency transmissions. The resistance goes up with frequency and a lot of data needs to flow down an hdmi cable to support 1080p60. A generic cable may be fine at short lengths but at longer lengths you may have trouble supporting even 1080p24. Of course, as with all things, you need to avoid the companies that are making marvelous snake oil claims for a premium price or companies that promise the world at rock bottom prices. As with all things, you get what you pay for to a point but after that you are just a sucker.
100 bucks is out of the question, that's too much. VGA is 30, HDMI should be 50
A good sheilded HDMI cable that won't break cost around $80 to $150. Plus you don't know what the connector includes, do you. It could have extra features ect(AUDIO ports, EXTRA HDMI PORT). Why would MS try and ripp people off when they sell stuff at a loss to try and keep everything as cheap as possible.
What about the $100 20gb hdd. I'm pretty sure they're making a profit on that ripoff.
That price will be decreased around when the PS3 comes out. Mark my word on that. But still it did make them alot of money, i'm no fanboy
I brought two hdmi cables for my comcast hd/dvr receiver over a year ago. The 6' cables were around $8 a piece and they work perfect till this day. I originally had a $90 cable from Fry's (phillips brand I believe) and I saw no difference between it and the cheap cable.
Consoles are sold at a loss but accessories are bread and butter. They are profit makers. A good rule of thumb for decent functional hdmi cables is to expect to pay about $10/ft but this is of course skewed here since one end is a multiport so it is kind of specialized. There are only 2 reasons for hdmi on 360 at present. 1 - 1080p game support. At present there aren't any games that support this resolution. 2 - 1080p movie support. Component will carry a 1080p signal so if you have a native 1080 set check if it will accept 1080p component input. Also, the 360 does not have hdcp hardware so at present it can't support ICT implementation. This cable will not solve this problem. ICT isn't enabled right now and shouldn't be until after the 360 life cycle. Sooo... this means the only reason to buy this cable after the HD-DVD add-on release or 1080 game support) is if you own a 1080 set that only accepts full 1080p over hdmi. I'm guessing this represents precious few people. I would wait to see how things unfold over the next year.
You just hit the nail on the head. They take a loss on the console and mind you that is only really true for about the 1st yr, then the price of all the parts come down, plus through cost cutting, they eventually bring it down to the point where they are straight up making profit of the system), but they make all the profits on the accessories. Controllers, HD's, cables, games, memory cards, etc. However, I have to say that the Xbox1 is the exception to this rule, but its their own fault for making bad licensing agreements
Thank god, someone tell C-net and everyone else to shut up now. And if you really want HDMI, you will fork out 100 bucks for it. Me, im extremely happy with 1080i, so ill stick with it.
Are you saying a 20 gig Hdd is worth less than $100?. Sony has to use the Hdd for games(they wern't thinking of you when they give you such a big HDD for free) it's not MS's falt they have to sell the PS3 at Such a loss to compete.
Yes I'm saying they shouldn't be that expensive. I bought a 250gb hard drive, 7200 rpm, for $140. So I think a $100 price for a twelth of that is ridiculous.
Well you bought a standard PC drive. The xbox 360 uses the smaller 2.5 Inch notebook harddrives which cost way more.
that's a seperate HDD. This is an integrated one with a case and other hardware included. Furthermore, smaller HDD's are more costly per GB then large ones. And yeah, it's a special product with no competition in producers. Seperate HDD's are having competition. Competition gives lower prices. But the PS3 hardware won't be cheap either. So what's your point exactly?
http://www.newegg.com/Produ... You can get a 60 GB 2.5" notebook hard drive for under $60 (western digital), so seeing Microsoft shove a 20GB 2.5" notebook hard drive in an empty plastic case and charging $100 is pretty questionable.
SO what do you expect from Sony? To give you cheap stuff? Like the PS3? For real. It's not a legit point. Seperate HDD's have competition. There are more suppliers. Stuff special designed and patented in total always are more expensive. Understand me well, I would like 100 GB 360 HDD's for 100 Euro if you'd ask me. But I understand why there aren't (yet). Look at all special hardware stuff, always more expensive then free to place universal hardware stuff. So DJ you're wrong. This is the demand/supply question. High demand, limited supply/suppliers --> high price
Although the ps2's hard drive was pretty much useless, it was 40 gigs and came with FFXI for 100 bucks. I'm hoping MS does something so I can upgrade from the 20 gig HDD. I really like downloading demos
20gb external hard drives run for $75 and that is for 4,600 rpm. Is the 360's hard drive 7200 rpm?
No, its not! its a 5400RPM drive, and the 360 HD is too expensive. Dont give me this, "it's not", crap. And to KMart, the PS gives you 40 gigabytes mores (equvalent to 2 more 20 GB 360 HDs, which would cost you $200), and a wireless wifi (which is $100 for the 360). So the HD is cheaper on the PS3 than it is on the , period! There is no way around it, the HD on the 360 is expensive
You really do not need it. My projector can do 1080p and it only has a 5%-10% improvement. It not that important. But I will get the HDMI cable when it is offered under $40.00.
What, 1080p is 5 to 10% improvement on 720p? Or do you mean that HDMI is 5 to 10% improvement on the signal being more stable?
The 360 hard drive has some music and a game and some other BS on it also. MAn! the price is normal/average. give it a rest.
how Microsoft is going to put a built-in HDMI port in order to compete with Sony. Whether or not they're get the rights to version 1.3 is another story, and that's if it's built-in. If they do another add-on (which they have to in order to support older versions of the console) the quality might not be as good as having a built-in port. There's little doubt in my mind that they'll try it though.