Take-Two: New GTA every two years would degrade series value

GS:Take-Two Interactive has explained why it does not release a new Grand Theft Auto game every two years. Speaking during the Wedbush Transformational Technologies Conference this week, chief operating officer Karl Slatoff explained doing so would degrade the franchise's value.

[Prcko]

just announce gta V for ps4 and i will be happy!

[Double_Oh_Snap]

Yup.

[saladthieves]

"Take-Two: New GTA every two years would degrade series value"

WHERE IS AN EA, UBISOFT, ACTIVISION SHOUT-OUT MICROPHONE WHEN YOU NEED ONE!!!

[xHeavYx]

I agree with Take Two, but when you see COD outselling itself every year (while losing hope in humanity) you can't help but wonder what the hell is going on

[fermcr]

Just announce the PC version of GTA5 (and release date) and I'll be happy. Everybody knows it exists, so get on with it.

[FlyingFoxy]

Hopefully it does, it has a lot of potential.. as long as we can have a huge amount of players online like SA-MP and customizable game modes it will be great.

[TXIDarkAvenger]

I find it funny how people agree with announcing a PS4 version even though it won't be much different from the PS3 version but then have the nerve of disagreeing with someone who wants it announced for the PC which btw will actually be much different from consoles.

[1nsaint]

My guess is that they wait for the 720 reveal before they announce anything for next-gen.
If they plan to release it for next-gen, but i think they will.

The release got delayed a few weeks before the ps4 announcement.

Coincidence? I think not.

[Derekvinyard13]

@ heavy

Because demand in quality these days is downhill,

[showtimefolks]

i agree, what makes GTA so special is the wait time and not knowing much till Rockstar are ready to show a little bit

i am fine with a new GTA every 4 years

[MooseWI]

And yet Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty and probably more are releasing every year and getting amazing sales numbers. The value of the brand though? Maybe not as good.

[DARK WITNESS]

I think this generation of gaming has seen a new breed of gamers that will just jump on any game with a little hype.

I am not speaking for everyone here, but happy T2 don't try and pull that crap with GTA both cod and AC seem to be dropping in quality each year.

People buy the games on hype and sure the trailers and dev interviews would make you really think you are getting a real quality game, but the games seem to always turn out worse then anyone could have thought.

I know a lot of people who didn't enjoy AC3 and personally I could not finish that game. Blops2 seems to finally be dropping in the number of people online that play MP. don't get me wrong it's still a lot higher then most games, but I have started to see it hit the 250k mark which is low for cod compared to past installments.

Two nights in a row I have come online and not had one person on my friends list playing it... Not one! There was a time that such a thing was unheard of.

Again I am not saying my friends list makes up the entire population of xboxlive or anything, but when the exodus begins it starts one footstep at a time..

I love GTA (yes even gta4) and I would hate to see it go down the same path as those games.

just my thoughts.

[uncharted56]

But with time less and less people are excited about these games and the quality of these games dont improve. Even though I am excited for AC4 because it is a series which is completely different from anything I have ever played and the new game seems to be doing a lot of things right including an interesting and more flushed out protagonist.

[NYC_Gamer]

I'm happy T2 doesn't wanna milk the GTA franchise with new releases every year or two

[Derekvinyard13]

So true,

[koehler83]

Good to see someone gets it.

[nevin1]

Pretty much JeremyEdson said what I was thinking.

[EliteDave93]

We dont even get a GTA every 4 years. Id say thats way to many years to wait.

[coolmast3r]

Then you don't know what GTA is.

[Th3 Chr0nic]

Too bad Take-Two doesnt make Assassin's Creed. Oh well soon it will be known as Madden's Creed

[ziggurcat]

one of the many things i respect about R* is their typical 4 - 5 year development cycle.

[I_LOVE_MYSELF]

1997 - GTA, London
1999 - GTA 2
2001 - GTA 3
2002 - Vice City
2004 - San Andreas
2005 - Liberty City Stories
2006 - Vice City Stories
2008 - GTA 4
2009 - Chinatown Wars

and they have released DLC for GTA4. Easier to push out DLC than make a new game from scratch, isn't it? If DLC didn't exist I believe we would have seen more of GTA this gen. The DLC still got a retail release.

[dreamoner]

2004 - San Andreas
2008 - GTA 4
2013 - ...

only these count in this arguement.

[I_LOVE_MYSELF]

Okay, then. I'm just going to point out the fact that there has been no Call of Duty 5 then.

2007 - CoD4
2013 - Still no CoD5

The Call of Duty hate is not justified because all the games inbetween don't count. /s

Stop making your own stipulations. The GTA series has been throwing out games left right and centre. Only recently has there been a significant wait for the next GTA title.

[1nsaint]

Vice city counts as well imo.

But yeah the rest on that list are mostly remakes.
Excluding chinatown wars, which is kinda a spin off, still a very cool game.
I hope they include the drug trafficking in GTA V, that would be awesome.

Also don't forget R* got multiple studios, even though there might be "only" 2 years between some GTA's, chances are high that one of the studios have been working on it for longer then that.

[Eyeco]

COD is so overhated you cant even call it overrated anymore, GTA, and especially Assassins Creed does the exact same thing but wheres the constant flaming, that those games get.

Don't get me wrong I LOVE GTA, I think AC is ok, and I think COD is decent time waster but the latter gets way to much hate for what it is.

That said I would prefer if sequels were released every 3-5 years, 2 years is starts to feel routine, and annually just isn't exciting.

[neoMAXMLC]

Great point you have there, GametimeUK!

I almost forgot that San Andreas was the third numbered installment to the GTA series!

/s

[I_LOVE_MYSELF]

Well, since he is making his own rules, I decided to make mine. /s

I was just using stupid logic like the person who replied to me. Fact remains that GTA games have been pumped out in quick succession.

[I_LOVE_MYSELF]

@1nsaint

None of those games are the remakes / ports. They are all the original releases. I didn't include the IOS versions or anything like that. The "stories" titles are atand alone titles.

[1nsaint]

Ah thats true, lol i feel dumb now, just read your comment after commenting about the anniversary games xD

I forgot about that liberty and vice city stories have different story lines, they just use the same city.

[1nsaint]

2011 - GTA 3 ten year anniversary
2012 - GTA Vice city ten year anniversary

;p

[dreamoner]

That fact is true, there is no CoD5. It's still using the same engine since CoD4 and no real changes with gameplay. If there would be a CoD5 for next gen, I doubt it would be any good. All the games after CoD4 was built on it's foundation and i seriously doubt they could make another to built upon in the next-gen.

For the matter at hand. I'd have included Vice City and GTA3 also but they are too old to reflect how an IP would fare nowadays and they are older tech, with current tech, game development time is significantly increased for quality games and making a -real- sequel to GTA takes more than that.

[LAWSON72]

I really hope you are not disappointed that there was dlc instead of $60 games. Why count handheld titles they can barely attract the masses if anything it was to get more fans.

[Thatguy-310]

GTA IV wasn't all that great... just saying.

[roshi1987]

Yes, it was a massive step back. I hope they find again what people liked about the ps2 games. They certainly lost me for this past gen.

[Derekvinyard13]

Not the best gta, but not a bad game on its own

[theWB27]

Since Take Two says this people are going to jump on Ubi for AC. Did you forget GTA 1,2 and 3 released within 4 years of each other. Only the last two have had a decent amount of years in between.

But Ubi doesnt milk their other franchises...they arent doing this to Ghost Recon or Splinter Cell. AC and GTA are totally different open world games. And at least Ubi is still making new IP's. Even though EA has their cash cows they still make new IP's also.

[NYC_Gamer]

Hmmm....GTA is the older franchise but Assassins Creed has more releases[main/spin-offs]..That should give you the direction that Ubisoft is heading with Assassin Creed..R* creates new software and they don't milk any of them with releases every year.

[theWB27]

So they annualize ONE franchise and all of a sudden Ubi is doing something wrong. If I can recall Ubi creates just as many...if not more new IP's than most major publishers out there. Watchdogs is the newest one...looks pretty innovative to me.

Does that make a game better also? As I recall GTA 4 wasn't one of the better GTA's and that took 7 years in-between releases to make.

[Jobesy]

Yup, R* has maintained their integrity of their franchises, eventhough GTA IV wasn't the best at least they tried and it showed. I'm patiently waiting for a RDR sequel, and I know it'll be worth the wait.

[maelstromb]

Ubisoft certainly needs to take a page from Take-Two. I have enjoyed the Ass. Creed games immensely, but after 3, it's feeling really tired and worn out. It's literally been the same formula from the beginning of the series with incremental improvements throughout each iteration. When a publisher makes the choice to perpetually release a new iteration in a franchise year after year, ultimately all it serves to do aside from the initial spike in profits is suffocate the brand, and cause customer fatigue. Nothing more.

And if you want another perfect example, look no further than Capcom's Resident Evil franchise, which is now effectively grounded after two titles that failed to produce the impressive fireworks present when RE4 released back in early 2005. Granted there was a several year gap between RE5 and RE6, but Operation Raccoon City released less than 9 months before RE6 and failed to impress as well.

[1nsaint]

Lol ass creed.

But i know what you mean, i haven't played an AC game since brotherhood. Cause it was more of the same.

But it looks like their are heading in a new direction with AC3 and now with 4.

[rowdyBOY]

only 1 real gta 4 game this whole generation is a massive joke no matter how you cut it .

and the worst gta in the series , lol

if rockstar keep this up gta brand will become forgotten. too many years to wait , so many good games out there .

[C0MPUT3R]

Open World Games take more time to make then linear shooters.
.
Especially when you are trying to do the level of detail in their current gen games.
.
That takes time & a lot of money. $150 Million+ for GTA V.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

What isnt being said but its worth looking at....Rockstar games (that is who we are really talking about here not Take Two ) puts out one big title or major DLC every year of late. What is interesting is how similar all these games actually are, and all run basically the same in many of the game play elements or open world concept. Max Payne 3 was the only game not to feature an open world but the mechanics and game play of Max Payne 3 felt very GTA 4 imo. Red Dead was GTA 4 in the wild west. LA Noire was GTA 4 light set in 40's Los Angeles with a cool facial tech mechanic that ultimately didn't really work. Ballad of Gay Tony & Lost and Damned were just more GTA 4.

I love most of what Rockstar does because they do a great job in telling the stories of their games. BUT, if there stories were not so great, I think many would be realizing they are just hashing out new GTA 4 games with different skins. GTA has already been annualized, they are just better at hiding it.

2008 - GTA 4
2009 - GTA 4: Ballad of Gay Tony plus Lost & Damned
2010 - Red Dead Redemption
2011 - LA Noire
2012 - Max Payne 3
2013 - GTA 5

[KaBaW]

Well, they know that people like to play their games; and not just because of story.
So, I don't blame them for wanting 'their' games to be similar in play style.
Also, of course BoGT and L&D were 'just more GTA4,' it WAS GTA4 DLC, afterall...

I disagree with LA Noire. That wasn't even made my Rockstar, if I'm not mistaken.
I've never played Max Payne 3, so I can't really say anything there, though.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I believe it was Rockstars world engine in the game and they had oversight on the whole project from my understanding. But yes they didnt technically make it just under their flag.

[TotalHitman]

Hello, Take-Two, have a look at the list,

1997 - GTA, London
1999 - GTA 2
2001 - GTA 3
2002 - Vice City
2004 - San Andreas
2005 - Liberty City Stories
2006 - Vice City Stories
2008 - GTA 4
2009 - Chinatown Wars

I want GTA 5 to be like San Andreas, but I also like LC and VC which came out 1 and 2 years after San Andreas. What I'm saying is I don't mind if you publish a GTA game like LC and VC regularly as long as I get a San Andreas quality game afterwards.

[FlyingFoxy]

Out of them all i think GTA 3 was the worst personally, Liberty City is pretty dull.

Vice City is where it got much better and enjoyable, San Andreas was just great. Liberty City stories isn't bad but Vice City stories is much more fun.

Then they went back to Liberty (boring) City for IV. So glad V is going to be like San Andreas with a lot of countryside and less of the dull city. Now i just hope they don't screw up the huge multiplayer potential when it hits PC.

[claud3]

Excellent news from R* and take-two, this makes excellent business sense

[Mr-SellJack]

that's because it lacks creativity, ubisoft could've made the best action adventure game of this generation if they've worked on assassin's creed for 4 yrs but nevertheless the franchise has an 80+average score