GC: "SimCity is having issues right now and majority of people are unable to play the game."
M$, sony, and nintendo fanboys each of you may hate two of the big 3 console manufacturers but we can all agree EA is 10000000000000000 times worse
I think Activision is, in my opinion, still worse then EA....just Activision are so known for what they do now and keep a low profile that we don't bother with them anymore. I could play an EA game but not an Activision one.
What's Activision guilty of exactly? Milking? Their customer service was generally helpful to me when I was still playing Guitar Hero games. EA is a bigger scumbag company to me. They've had as many shady business practices as Activision, if not more. Their lousy treatment of Bioware doesn't help that.
I would agree to that a year ago, but Activision isnt really that bad anymore. I mean, they still milk their CoD games but that's really just about the only thing they do. Ea on the other hand has gotten waaaaaay worse.
Yeah but guys they quality of most of their games....sorry, nearly all of their games are below average. Least with EA you can still get the odd good one, like for example, Mirrors Edge. I'm not defending EA, they are trash but I'm just saying you could still get a better experience playing the odd game from them then from Activision which are either below average games or COD while it's the same game over and over.
F*cking take them to court!!!! I've just about had it with them. I have a few new slogans for them matter of fact: 1.MicroTransactions..It's in the game(troll face) 2 EA Sports..BIG crooks. 3 EA: NO DICE... 4 Microtransactions...Pa dap pap pap pahh because you're lovin' it! 5. Microtransactions R'US 6. and My personal Favorite: Battefield: BAD COMPANY <<<<<< See what I did there?
"Yeah but guys they quality of most of their games....sorry, nearly all of their games are below average" OH MY GOODNESS That's a thousand times worse than EA's games not working!!! /s You not liking their games isn't worse than the BS anti-consumer crap that EA has done.
Console games are just the tip of the ice bird. The sims 3 on pc is still a complete mess after this many years,The new EP doesnt even work for most people.So many modders in the community have to fix problems EA should be fixing. Sad but I still buy their games.. One day I will be so fed up and abandon them like I did with their sports games
Activision are the devil they ban your WoW account for buying gold if somebody tells them you bought it just while they "investigate it" they unban it when they find you havn't been buying gold. No time refunded for the inconvenience or anything. They have the cheek to charge you a monthly fee then BAN you from your account while they investigate it.. No initial proof just while they check it out which can take upto a week. You get ZERO compensation other than a "your account is unbanned with found nothing wrong" email. Activision stealing money for years.. Oh and lets not forget increasing the price of COD by an extra $10/£10 compared to other games right?? Because its SUCH a better game.. *insert sarcasm*
I'm sorry Root, but CoD STILL doesn't ask for an online pass. As bad as the franchise may be, it doesn't ask you to buy a stupid ass online pass. Activision may be horrible, but EA are 10x worse.
Activision = milking and being super cheap. Copy pasting textures to newer cod games. Have the #1 FPS, selling over 9 mil copies YET!, they cant give us dedicated servers and a glitch free games.
I don't like Activision for that too, but it's the peoples fault, not theirs. As long as people keep buying, they keep making. And so they also can ask more money for their services, and people still buy. I honestly don't know how this Call of Duty crap has lasted so long and still is going. And it probably won't end anytime soon. :P
There's no such thing as a glitch free multiplayer game. And Valve ban people for disputing charges too
@2pac Sony will ban your account if you dispute digital charges as well , they WILL refund you but your account will be banned....pretty much the same situation But EA is the big bad wolf of the industry right now.....not that I condone what is happening with SimCity right now but this is exactly why I didn't get the game...this dumbass DRM was announced before release and with my unreliable Comcast Internet I can't rely on constant connection to play a single player game. A SimCity was one of my anticipated games this year....oh well, looks like I made the right choice
Same here rainStorm. I was eagerly awaiting this game when it was announced, as SimCity is by far one of my favorite game series. Each one I've spent countless hours on with the original game and the subsequent expansion packs. Then they say it will be always on-line and my interest went to zero in a second. Having played this series since the first it was a real disappointment, particularly since the "reasons" they listed for it having to be always online are things I generally mostly hate anyways. I have no problem with authenticating DRM schemes so long as it's invisible, but requiring to connect to play just doesn't work for me.
Exactly. Say what you will about Activision, but they screw the consumer WAY less than EA. Less online passes. Less micro transactions (so far anyway). Fewer server shutdowns that disable online play. They seem to take it in turns when it comes to most hated company though, so we'll see what shit Activision pulls next to give EA a break.
Activision only fell off of the map because they can't make games. They got lucky with CoD and WoW but I dont see them as a major threat in the future. I am surprised EA hasn't fallen flat on its face yet though.
They do have Bungie's Destiny going live or should be going live around the time PS4 launches. I'm sure something is bound to happen when something major likes this goes live.
Why did they even make SimCity online only anyway. I would of bought it if it wasn't always online Hell they should bring it to consoles, I'm sure they could find a way to do it. EDIT Wow, reading through that forum there is a lot of EA White Knights.... Came across this though about stuff which has been cut from past Sim City games "laying pipes power lines SUBWAYS!!! terraforming your plot the lack of options. 8 regions? Only a few of them are 16 slots? Laaaaame no agriculture the multiplayer meta game is a joke" Really...they cut all that stuff out.....why Why do something which takes a step back for the franchise.
It's amazing how many people would defend EA. If you paid £40 for a game, it has to work day 1.
It is true for every gamer that is fed up with EA they have another who will defend them. If you say EA is greedy, they will make you feel cheap. If you say EA's games are broken, and most of them are, they will point you towards mods, or claim that it isn't really a big deal, so you should STFU and stop acting entitled. It is brainwashing at its finest.
And cities are small as hell to "promote specialization". Sim City wasn't meant to be like this.
I bet that stuff will be DLC. You know, because the devs didn't have time. *sarcasm* Stupid casual gamers will pay up for this shit. It's not going to end.
haha exactly what I was gonna say, They cut so much stuff out of The Sims 3 that was in Sims 2 to only add it later in EP's or SP's,..
Screw that. Simcity 2000, 6 bucks at gog.com
Sounds really tempting to buy it again... I can't seem to find my old CD's
Well, I'm going to get some hate for this... ...but I own and play Surviving High School on my phone. (Android) It's an EA game. I purchased the "remove ads" feature. The ads are still there. I also purchased season three...and it refuses to download. I should have waited. Other people started reporting the same issue. EA hasn't responded to anyone for over a year about the game, yet the team continues to make content. EFF. THEM.
Get in touch with the Google Play customer service. EA has sold you 2 products that do not work as advertised, the Google Play staff will likely be able to help you.
Awesome. :) Thank you! (This is why I love Google.)
Yeah def contact Google Play. Also, the same goes for buying content off amazon.com's app store. If the developer won't respond, they will. I had an issue with a virtual currency purchase and amazon stepped in and fixed it (almost like an arbitrator). The app market owners know if you aren't happy with a sale, you won't buy as much in the future.
By the way, don't love Google either. Google is a company that is trying to monopolize everything at a cheap cost, thereby giving you a crap service. And, of course, nobody would have the money to go up against Google, anyway. Google screwed over YouTube. And they hand over your search information, sent-received email to the US government. They are a huge corporation. And there's not a single good corporation out there. It's about the money. Don't you forget that. It'll make it easier to accept it when you get screwed later. :)
A part of me wants to feel sorry for all these people going thru the problems with this game. but another part feels like these people should have known better then to get in bed with EA expecting not to get burned. after reading many of the post from the forum. many of the people should have done research on the game before they purchased it. they would have known stuff was cut from the game and would be re-sold as DLC later. if people didn't learn this from ME3. this was one of the main reasons why i wouldn't buy this game. EA has proven time and time again that they are the worst. i hope this is a lesson learned
And I was literally on the verge of getting this game; good thing I didn't. Tomb Raider for the win :P If EA did not own FIFA I would literally do no business with them.
The part that hurts the most is that I REALLY want to play this. I've always loved the SimCity games, but I can't support these types of greedy decisions. I wish at least I could buy it used, but that's obviously not an option.
And so it begins! This is why no game company should be allowed to become as big as EA! Because when they do, the seem to all get a sense of entitlement and believe that the rules that apply to others don't apply to them.
What rules? There are no rules about giving a refund back to a customer who KNOWINGLY bought an online only game. It's called terms and service and commonsense. Should the servers be up and running? Yes. But they aren't completely up and it sucks but it's not a refundable cause. I'm glad they're not doing that. I thought it was stupid they gave refunds back out for mass effect 3. You can't just start going refunds back out to every person because they're whiny. It doesn't work that way.
So your saying you get what you pay for!? Even if the online is practically unplayable?? That pretty much defeats the purpose of buying the game. So anyone can release a online only game, and people have to wait until they say it's playable? SMH.
You have no business sense ... I dare you to open any business then launch into your meaningless tirade every time someone asks for a refund. Would you buy a car with the promise it will work later? The customer is right because they are your revenues ... Wake up
What? They offer you a refund and then refuse to give it to you? You have every legal right to dispute this. How the fuck do they think they can ban you for that? Wow, EA is getting worse by the day. It'll be interesting to see how they fair next gen when everyone starts at 0. Edit: Really, disagrees for that? I guess some people enjoy being ripped off.
I didn't disagree, but it's probably because you said everyone will start at 0 next gen. The big companies will still be big, the little ones still little. I'm not saying that couldn't eventually be changed by only supporting the companies that deserve it, but having new consoles isn't going to magically fix anything.
Yeah they'll still be big companies, but that's not what I meant. I was referring to the fact that there will be a small fanbase at first. So they'll be starting from scratch and build up a fanbase as the consoles sell. 1 wrong move early on in a new gen could have long lasting effects. For example, EA has said they'll have microtransactions in the majority of their titles going forward. Most core gamers do not like or support microtransactions unless it's an MMO, and core gamers are the ones that pick up new consoles within the first 2 or 3 years. If they start next gen as the only company abusing microtransactions that could really screw them up.
The same thing happened with Diablo 3 (they didnt refund money either)
I don't feel sorry for "gamers" that don't do their homework, they're just as guilty as the publisher, period...
If they assured him the he would get a refund why would he do any research? Cant believe that some "people" in this world defend underhanded business practices.
So I guess there was information out there prior to the game release stating that on launch day you will not be able to play the game because the server will die. Dumbass
Perhaps not, but it WAS kind of common sense. Before people start throw a fit, I'm not saying the consumer is as guilty as the publisher, but rather that the consumer is at least partially to blame for a situation such as this. Because they factually are, that's indisputable. The 'Sim' franchise as owned by EA is, probably the largest franchise in gaming (with 'The Sims' as a series being the fifth most successful, or fourth if you disregard the Nintendo-developed games starting with the name 'Wii' such as WiiSports, WiiPlay, etc.) If it isn't THE biggest one, it's certainly one of the top three. The 'SimCity' series has sales of upwards of 18 million copies and is one of the most popular PC franchises in existence. With that knowledge existing and easy to find, there's no reason why people couldn't put together 'Huge series' + 'Tons of advertisement' + Always-on DRM = screwed over servers. I could've told you this would happen before the game came out and I wasn't wrong. And another thing, people should really reevaluate how they like being treated by companies. THey bitch and complain about games with always-on DRM, then go and buy them. Go look at Diablo III. Look at SimCity. It's ridiculous. People need to have some integrity and some common sense if they want things to get better for them. Fin.
The thing is though, that a majority of those 18 million aren't people who research games, or have the "common sense" to know that this was going to be an issue. As soon as it was announced I knew it was, but SimCity is huge, as you say. The majority of customers buying this game just don't understand the technicalities of something like this, and since every SimCity game to date has been mostly playable on release, there is no reason for them to assume that this one wouldn't be. I would even wager that a lot of people buying this game didn't even know about the always online DRM. These consumers aren't stupid, just not as informed as those of us on here. It's sad that they have to get a harsh lesson because of this, and it hurts the industry overall because now some of those people will be more weary of purchasing in the future, particularly in this same series(or other Sim series game), and it could affect other companies as well. I don't like all these reversing the blame comments on here. Gaming forums are one of the few places where I see an over-abundance of acceptance over unacceptable practices. Any other company outside gaming that had such shoddy products and bad customer service would likely be out of business by now, and the only ones that seem to be able to get away with it are the phone/cable companies, and game publishers. I think so far what we've seen is the tip of the iceberg. It's likely mostly the "informed" gamer that we see ranting now, but have no doubt that EA's customer/technical support is being bombarded by people that are just the average user. They have real problems with the game, no one can deny that, and when they seek out a way to resolve them in an appropriate manner, they are threatened...that to me is just unacceptable.
Say NO to EA! There should be a shirt somewhere in there...
insomniac already broke their partnership with EA on Outernauts , they probably will break off completely after FUSE
Well, that's the kind of service you get from a company that was voted Worst Company in America before. Yet, EA continues to try to convince everyone that they give out quality products and services. If people are having trouble with your game, don't threaten them with account banishment just because they want a refund. Actually help them EA! It's not that difficult to do.
#1 The customer shouldn't have bought the damn game. If they thought they would have a problem with DRM then they should've not even gave EA the money, and I bet the Term and Conditions on the game protect EA from being sued for this.
I'm sure there are grounds for a lawsuit here, somewhere.
I can't really believe that they won't give a refund for this. Its not like a customer came back and said they didn't like the game or that it was weeks later and they logged several hours into the game. This is a clear issue of the game being broken upon purchase, and still being broken which results in a defective product upon launch. A defective product should be able to be returned for a full refund or at least exchanged for another game on their service.
I ran into this same issue with ea except my game was bf3, i bought the game (luckily on sale) and couldn't play multiplayer, kept getting a "error from ea online" message, i went back and forth with them for almost a month about it, and all customer service told me to do was reset my password over and over, after not being given a refund, i just deleted my origins account and moved on. Bf3 was the first and last pc ea game i ever buy
I managed to get a refund for BF3 for the same problems, mine was actually done for me out of the blue when I emailed EA/Origin customer service. Its a bit inconsistent on their behalf if this is true.
Guess I'll have to pirate this EA game too, if they plan on treating their customers like this!
How about don't pirate. I know you want to play the game but you're just going to support the need for DRM.
i have 2 extra simcity keys if I gave them away who would want them ;) #deadass (was going to sell them)
Man, thank god I didn't buy Sim City yesterday. I was deciding if I should pick up the game or not with my Tomb Raider purchase but thank god I didn't. First it was Madden and the exclusive deal that prevent a superior product to compete in the market, then, I believed they were the ones that started this online pass for multiplayer BS on consoles if you buy your game used, now this is just terrible as far as ethic goes for a company. I will never buy a EA game brand new again after this latest debacle.
One day somebody is gonna sue the shit outta ea.
EA gave me a refund when I bought BF3 off Origin and I was having problems. I thought their customer service was excellent with me. The games price is crazy though, hope next-gen games aren't that expensive, especially for a digital download.
Vote with your wallet guys. It is the only thing that talks the talk and walks the walk!
It's in the game!!
Actually, no, they pulled it out of the game and will sell it to you later.
They do this yet hold their hands up innocently when getting voted worst company in America, what a joke of a company.
Grow up ppl this isnt something new. all games have isssues. they will patch it and it will work. why is everyone acting like this has never happened before. if you dont have the patience to wait for fix then you shouldnt be buying games day 1. im not defending EA cause this bs happens all the time and unless this is your first vidya game ever you would know that. if they gave refunds then a week later when the game is fixed half those ppl will just buy it again cause they are idiots that just want to be assholes and have a reason to bitch
ROFL. The sad thing is the problem isn't JUST the main issue. EA's servers are notoriously switched off quickly. Hell I've seen a game that came out in february, whose servers were turned off in....APRIL! Granted it was an iOS phone game, but still. Plenty of their games get jobbed after a 9-18 months. So if you need to connect to their 'servers' to play the game..... Not to mention just think in an era of multi TB hard drives, why do the remove the option to save your game? Why? It's not like that 2 MB's is going to be missed here or there. This isn't a bad coding decision, it's a DESIGN decision. They KNEW about the problems. They got TONS OF FEEDBACK. and..... IGNORED IT. I am grown up, grown up enough to have played in an era when games were playable upon launch because they couldn't be updated. Grown up enough to learn how to use DOS at 4 before GUI's were even invented. These 'issues' aren't issues, they are DECISIONS. There's a big difference from BUGS and bad decisions. Thus no, this won't be fixed. Oh I'm sure people will be able to access the game eventually. But think about it, why should anyone have a single line coded that forces people to queue to play a single player game? This is a DESIGN decision. One they apparently knew about since they coded such things in. That it was deemed acceptable. Think about what you are saying though, you think it should be practice to NOT buy something day 1. That is insane. Companies are supposed to not sell a product until it works. Now some bugs happen, but releasing buggy messes is unacceptable, but this goes beyond a buggy mess as the issue is with the horrible, unneeded, bs DESIGN decisions they made that only screws over the customer. Bugs and design errors are TWO SEPARATE THINGS. EA is guilty of BOTH on this release, but by far, the worst offenders were the design decisions. Always online for a single player game that you can't save yourself, taking away a huge portion of the fun its predecessors in the series enjoyed.
Oh EA should be fun to deal with next-gen.... pause...
That dude should just go and rip the game off from some torrent. Seems sad that one would have to resort to such measures for a game that one PAID FOR, but if that allows him the ability to actually play his now $60 paperweight of a game, I would condone it. BUT yes, ultimately you should vote with your wallets and show EA that we're sick of the deceit, quick money-making schemes and their blatant bully tactics, like in this case.
The new Sim City looked fun and I havn't played on in years but for several months I coulnd't play the single player of Battlefield 3 because it crashed when launching. multiplayer worked perfectly. Frustrating paying $60.00 for a game you can't fully play. I feel this guys pain!