According to DigiTimes, Sony anticipates that PlayStation 4 will reach annual shipments of 16 million units in 2013. If true, this would make it the largest launch of any console.
thats a large launch? i got to say im suprised i first thought it was comparably small, but if this is worldwide then im not so certain about this number i better preorder immediatly after i find out the price
Are you kidding right? XD 16 million shipments at launch, if true, it's simply HUGE...
Well, I am still pre-ordering. And I will be there at launch day, waiting in line! Camp-time come holiday 2013! Wooohoooo!!! :D
That's a good news !! It means, the PS4 will release in Europe too fall 2013, yeah :P
Yeah, thats double the best case scenario for a half years (two fiscal quarters) worth of system sales. And nothing in the article really supports the 16 million unit number. They have new markets in South America, Asia, and Africa, but these numbers are huge. This is either bullshit, which it probably is, or Sony is gearing up to take the throne. By force.
One of those PS4s has my name on it....
And one of them has my name on it ! Can Not wait till launch day
Most of my friends are planning to buy one on release day. So I'm getting three.
Might be true. Sony going hard lately. Plus how hard is it to build a pc?
Yeah, it is quite large - not to mention possibly overly-optimistic - especially considering Sony will only have about 4 months to ship that many, and it usually takes a year before sales really start taking off.
All, We have to remember that sony fiscal year is different than the standard year. Their year ends in March 2014, so this number doe sound reasonable.
they might ship 16 million, but they'll only sell around 3-5 million by the end of the year. there is no way they're going to sell 16 million in the second half of this year. There's only about 5 million Sony drones out there anyway, so they'll sell to the drones for sure.
Dan Holmes literally have part of his name in one of those.
This http://palmettopublicrecord... Does this mean PS4 will be very affordable? PC parts are dirt cheap in Taiwan and China because they are not niche components. Have you guys see a grown man cry because of excitement?
It is a large number considering the fact that it will only be released officially this year in Japan and the US. I will preorder it and pay in full probably through amazon. There is no way in hell that I'm going to stand in line like when the PS3 came out. One of the worst experiences in my life. I've never seen people sink so low in my life than what I've seen there.
It's Over 9000 aawrhhhhh! :D Day 1 preorder.
I am thinking it is large. comparing even comparing it to the Wii U, with its launch, these PS4 numbers are way higher
For reference. Current gen consoles launched with <10M and reached 10-13 in a full calendar year. I could imagine there will be high demand. But 16 is too high, unless this is a quote for a whole year, not just launch. Not sure why'd bind so much capital, though. Maybe to get better rates on components??
16 million in how many months and possibly two regions? WTF are you guys smoking. I want some of it. On average a console sells less than 2 million in first 3 months. Now if you guys are talking about from 2013 launch until 2014 launch date(1 full calender year). Then yes 16 Million is possible, but even so its a little higher than I expected. As PS3 and X360 in one year sold 10.x Million. So I was expecting 12-13 million possibly in one full year.
@ Ju, better rates on components makes a lot of sense, and maybe thats why its being done, to pass the savings on to us, so theres no big price tag @ deadlyfire, i think the ps4 is going to have a world wide launch, not staggered like the ps3 launch. still those numbers are high, maybe ordering that many in bulk grabs a high discount?
Deadly fire, You also have to relize that that may be how many are sold but at least in California finding one of those systems is pretty hard and requires waiting in lines to get. The Supply is way under demand on almost every console at launch by ahuge margin. Im not quite sure why no one has brought that up yet. in cali it took months for us to get a wii and took about a month to get a PS3 after waiting in line at Bestbuy with like 100 other people where they only had 5 for sale.
well no im not kidding, this could just be a number for united states i have no idea if canada or anywhere else is a part of this launch and if so would have to be split up. So to the best of my knowledge that doesnt sound like a alot to me if thats the case
"So to the best of my knowledge that doesnt sound like a alot to me if thats the case" Clearly the "Best of your knowledge" is not much and highly out of line with reality. The PS2 at the peak of its selling powers was shipping between 16-20 million units a year worlwide. Educate yourself, then speak "to the best of your knowledge".
relax sir, not like i was trying to pull a "mika" here or anything.
Console manufacturers hope to push those numbers in a whole year. How could 16 mil this year, When it launches this holiday, Not be a big deal?
9 will be sold to my family. We played video games growing up with no cable.
That's the best way to grow up! Who needs cable tv anyway?
Yeah it sucked being poor. My uncle bought me an Atari and I never went back to tv.
Sony's confident not cocky. That's a ton of shipements that may not pay off. I think this is false.
You don't foresee the PS4 selling 16 million consoles? I'm struggling to understand your logic here, please explain.
They were going to be made anyways....
I was just saying Sony needs to be careful. I can see Sony Selling 16 mill, eventually. I understand they want to go hard but what if Something happens like they're not selling as good as they were hoping. I'm not saying they won't sale well or have a tough launch but 8 or 9 mill is a safe bet.
Yes please!! Sony.. I want to get mine without a problem or having to wait.. and I have a feeling that even then it will be very hard to get one on the first month..
I think people are missing the bigger picture... If SONY is confident they can sell 16 million units in 2013 then I think that also points to a reasonable price point on PS4 - it won't go over $600 To sell that many units you have to be priced just right and I think we could see a price between $529 & $599 or maybe even lower.. (but it will not be over 600) 16 million is huge, even the iPhone 5 had like 9 million units at launch and sold 5 million in 3 days.. So this is possible but the price has to be right in-order to do those kind of numbers.. I think it's a safe bet that the system will not go over 600 (So you can start saving now with 600 as your target- then add 150+ tax because you know your going to need some games at launch) Mine will be -(Day-One buys) DriveClub Killzone Watch Dogs -OMG- how could I forget- Battlefield 4 Assassin Creed IV Guess that 150 is going to have to be +250 -and so it begins- .____........___... .____||......||.......|___|| ||.........___||............ ||
U no liek inFamous? :(
Why would you even suggest *over* 600? Of course it won't go over, but 599 would be the same thing all over again, and they won't meet expectations at that price. That's why even your low ball seems high.
i think $500 would be too much for those kind of numbers. if its $250-$300 maybe. But i cant see it being that cheap.
Those number would actually suggest <400 entry price. 250-300 is too low, but 600 is too hight. My guess is around 400.
@ Conzul OMG! how could I leave out Infamous - ok change that to about +350 because infamous is of course a day one buy Looks like a safe bet is just have a $1000 ready for launch system + Games @ KwietStorm that's a good point, it's the GDDR5 ram -that's expensive so I was thinking we could get over, but now I'm thinking 5 something.. -Trust me I want it lower too but I was just thinking based off the specs and playing it safe.. @ kevnb I agree, but how much lower can it really go, under 500 and SONY could be taking a real lost on each unit..remember PS3 launched at $599 and to do 16 million units is a lot to be taking a lost on.. I think if it comes in under 500 it's flying off the self. No question. But-250-300 is just too unrealistic, I'm sorry but look how long it too PS3 to get to that price point.. PS4 won't launch that low.
It wir serr fo FOOO HUNDUDAN FIFTI.......DORRARS. Just my imagination literally.
400-450 would be the sweet spot for me.
omg i nearly crushed my skull, while facepalming
I highly doubt it. Though it will be good that number is just too high for a launch. If true then Sony is hiding a lot of things seeing how they have a lot of confiden in the ps4. True or not though I'm going to pre-order mine as soon as its available. Have a feeling they're going to sky rocket off retails quickly.
This may very well be the hint we've been waiting on as far as the PS4 affordability.
That's what I was thinking. If they launch in all the biggest territories simultaneously at a low enough price, the 16 million number might make sense. But, it's probably just wrong.
And also a launch window.
I know where 4 of them will be...
If true... Sony making sure all the mistakes they made this current gen (last to launch, too expensive and difficult to develop for) does not happen for their next gen console. This means I expect their price to be $400 - $450.
That's fairly ambitious, can they even manufacture that many in time? If so, what's stopping them from releasing world wide at the end of the year?
This probably a made up rumor. Release worldwide is hard for any console to do because of localization of games. Usually the games just aren't ready in time for some territories.
That number seems crazy inflated. They would have to launch in September and sell 2.5 million to 3 million each month until the end of Fiscal Year 2013 (March 2014). I don't think that this information is correct. Maybe its 16 million in the first calendar year. But even that seems like a lot.
I certainly wouldn't begrudge a September launch, be nice not to have to deal with the Xmas rush while trying to get my console and accessories.
1st they wont have 16 million made by then. 2nd sony fiscal year (2013) ends in march 2013. So this article is talking about calender 2013 which gives them 3 months time. So 5.3 million a month isnt happening. maybe 1.6 million depending on when it comes out
It is a Rumour.
It is a lie. The ps4 is not shipping 16m units between its "holiday 2013 release" and december 31st. Unless they don't intend to replenish stock for the whole of 2014, which obviously is not the case lol
Either way Sony may be just ensuring they have consoles on the shelf for Christmas. I remember having a hard time getting a PS3.
I'd hate to be president of SCE next year.
You don't like swimming in cash while playing every single Sony made game before anyone else on the PS4?
Nah. It's just that then he couldn't troll Sony the way he does now.
On a 4k TV and gold plated ps4 and remote.
Highly unlikely. The PS4 will likely launch in the last few months of 2013, say october or november. Sony has so far confirmed that it would launch in (at least) one country/region this year. If it launches exclusively in Japan, there's no way it sells 16 million units in 2-3 months. Even in NA, this number would seem highly unlikely. As a matter of fact, a wordlwide launch would probably not get these sales. You also have to add the fact that MS is also likely to ship its console late this year, which would mean a fierce competition in NA. By digging up some old articles, it seems that bot the PS3 and the X360 sold about 5.5 million units each in their respective first 12 months on the market. Which leads me to believe 16 million units in 3 months is probably not happening.
I agree. These numbers are too high. But two things to consider. This might be FY13 which ends 1Q14 (March) for Sony (?). And I would guess 80% of a yearly quota is sold around the holiday season. This order could stretch out into 2014 (beyond FY13). But if they'd sell those until mid 2014 this would already be record numbers, IMO. I guess their market research team must have gotten carried away, huh? But then...it's on the internet. It must be true.
i dont care i just want mine!!!
Oh Yeah :) 1 of those is mine :) One of them is my bros :) And about 10 of them are for my mates :) This gen, Sony will retake the market, PS2 style.
I doubt it'll even meet whatever their expectations are anyway with the way the market is atm.
They're combining PS3 and PS4. There is simply no way PS4 can ship 16million units this year, no matter how good the launch is, it will never sell anywhere close to that.
The only way Sony could have these sorts of expectations is if- 1. It will be a worldwide release 2. PS4 will be quite cheap
still zero chance of that happening. Video game consoles simply do not sell at that rate.
It might just be a strategy. They are going to saturate the living daylights on the market and perhaps put advertisements everywhere. It worked for Microsoft.
One of the 16mill Ps4 has my name on it !
The price? That's what I want to know.