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Michael Pachter Interview -"Next Xbox might cost more than PS4" - Gamertag Radio

This week's episode of Gamertag Radio - Michael Pachter Interview:

*Playstation 4 Reaction
*Next Xbox might cost more than PS4
*Both next gen consoles launching the same day in Nov 2013?
*Nintendo Wii U
*Rumor: Next Xbox announcement in April

Interview starts at 34:25.

All this and more on GTR!

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vyralx4491d ago

So that means it will cost less than PS4

zeal0us4491d ago

Next Xbox might cost more than PS4
Next Xbox might less more than PS4

FFS where are the real analyst at? Jeez my 12yr nephew could told me this.

Cupid_Viper_34491d ago

Wait... did he say that they're trying to include a TV tuner in the next xbox?

That's kind of borderline in my opinion.

TopDudeMan4491d ago

Let's go for the unexpected option. Imagine it retailed for EXACTLY THE SAME price? Then everybody would be wrong.

user39158004491d ago

Michael Pachter = The Kardashians of gaming and the ghandi of superstitions.

Apex134491d ago

why does that surprise you?

the business model of making a loss on the box and profit on software is dead!!!

That-Guy4491d ago

Just look at that troll face of his in the video. And the Internet buys into it.

Nafon4491d ago

@Cupid:
A TV Tuner would get a lot more people using media center... i agree though. probably not going to happen. speaking of media center, hopefully they speed it up on the next xbox (if they include it at all). I have my xbox and pc wired with 100 mbps ethernet, and it is so laggy.

Sharingan_no_Kakashi4491d ago

If that's true MS has lost. I doubt it is though. MS isn't dumb enough to enter a battle with a more expensive, less powerful, suckier games line up console.

M_Prime4491d ago

@zeal0us that was hilarious man, and so true.

Oh_Yeah4491d ago

I'd like to see both launch same day and same price... That'd be a first for the industry and it'd allow people to pick based truly on specs and games, that's real competition right there.

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raWfodog4491d ago

I predict that Michael Pachter will soon make another useless prediction/analysis.

r214491d ago

Actually, his predictions are useful. We can predict the opposite of his prediction to be true XD

M_Prime4491d ago

How did he become so popular?

UnholyLight4491d ago

Not all of his predictions are wrong but yeah hahaha. How nuts would it be if both released on the same day? That would be anarchy x100000 especially if I am trying to grab both systems at the same time hahhah

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Link0794491d ago

It's just a games console people will not invest big money in buying one nextgen ?

Well balanced hardware that can keep up with the best is the way forward i think.

nosferatuzodd4491d ago (Edited 4491d ago )

indeed and that guy is a silent troll he's fabricating shit to let the ps4 look bad check this out

The x86 CPU, incidentally, is a 64-bit, 8-core Jaguar CPU made by AMD, probably clocked at around 2GHz. Jaguar is the next step up after Bobcat, and is targeted at low-power (and low-cost) laptops. Jaguar is expected to be around 10% faster than Bobcat — and the core count is quite impressive, if developers can make use of them all —

Overall, the PS4′s CPU isn’t spectacular. but at the same time its no slouch its a good mid range CPU yo dig

madjedi4491d ago

@link "It's just a games console people will not invest big money in buying one nextgen ?"

Then why the hell would anyone spend $350 + tax for a wiiu + 2 or 3 games to play. How do you make that statement as a gamer.

"Well balanced hardware that can keep up with the best" If it's well balanced it isn't anywhere near the best, especially if we are talking about nintendo's hardware preferences.

Best is a $900+ dollar gpu or a $1000 cpu ect, not a low or mid range hardware, but this is the same guy expecting port of need for speed to match a high end pc version.

-Superman-4491d ago

He maybe right...
We know Microsoft will make Kinect 2, and it self cost a lot. So... there are 2 way Microsoft will sell console.

1)Xbox720(Kinect 2 built in) and console is weaker than PS4 = Same price as PS4

2)Xbox720(Kinect 2 built in) and console is strong or stronger than PS4 = higher price than PS4

If they built just Xbox720, and same strong as PS4, price could be same, but we know that Kinect 2 will be built in Xbox 720 which means cost alot, this means they put higher price in market, or same price and weaker console.

dcbronco4491d ago (Edited 4491d ago )

PS4 has a similar camera included. DDR5 is a lot more expensive than DDR3. Kinect 1 was never as expensive as people thought it would be. Next Xbox might be using a cheaper GPU which is a lot less. They may be using two of them but it still would be less than the one in the PS4. No One knows the price until we see the actual parts. But there are plenty of reasons to believe the Xbox will still cost less to manufacture.

Pachter did at least get it right when he said the new consoles wouldn't appear until 2013-14.

zebramocha4491d ago (Edited 4491d ago )

@dc gddr5 cost more ddr3 but no one knows to what extent and to compensate for ddr3 low bandwidth Ms had to add 32MB of esrsm and those move engines,this could make the cost for both systems similar. The ps4 camera is just two 720p camera duck taped together.

dcbronco4491d ago

@Zebra

True enough, but until we see the final parts we don't know. Overall I don't think Microsoft's goal is to save a ton of money. The 720 might be more expensive to produce. Though probably not by much. I think MSs goal is performance. And the differences in their design are based on things they've figured out.

PSN-JeRzYzFyNeSt4491d ago

DDR5 = Dance Dance revolution 5?

_-EDMIX-_4491d ago

Please. Sit down. MS can have Kinect built in and it can be the same price as PS4. I'm not sure why any of you are adding the price of Kinect as if MS gave you the "discounted" version and just took a loss on it. Its just a camera....

They priced it like that to get sales, period. Its nothing more then a fancy camera (if that).

Its like saying, the same company that made the iphone screen is making a screen for a GPS, "oh man its going to COST A LOT cause iphone cost a lot"

So....are we forgetting this is Apple? Are we forgetting that the SG3's screen is actually HD! Just cause a company sells something at a certain price, doesn't make it really "worth" that price, just to them. Its like saying PS4 will be 440 (cause I'm adding in the price of the eyetoy LMFAO)

Dasteru4491d ago

@zebramocha:

8GB of DDR3-1333 has a wholesale cost of about $30 right now.

8GB of GDDR5 is around $140.

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Mounce4491d ago

Microsoft basically knows that 360's Upper Hand this generation were 2 things....

1. They were out earlier so they had a year headstart to gain a strong ground.

2. It was cheaper than the PS3 so if anyone tried to decide based on pricetag and not Friendslist of Games, they went 360. Especially the arcade model.

I'd find it, even though I don't have much trust or faith in Microsoft as a company, that they'd be STUPID enough to fuck over their Price-advantage that people may have come to recognize for their console brand in a way..... If the tech isn't greater, than the price should most DEFINITELY be lower.

BOLO4491d ago

Don't forget #3. That RROD 54.2% failure rate boosted sales of the 360 drastically!

BOLO4491d ago

Don't forget #3. That RROD 54.2% failure rate boosted sales of the 360 drastically!

/watch?v=F3xBmENXX0Y&list =LLsOrvCJE8JCOz3XuvxhUC-w

Outside_ofthe_Box4491d ago

@vyralx

LOL! That was my first thought when I read the headline. The opposite of what Pachter says comes true.

showtimefolks4491d ago

both ps4 and next xbox will cost around the same price, i can't wait for E3 so all the hate on ps4 and xbox can die down. people are never happy so ms and sony shouldn't worry about the very small number of people who are impossible to please and cater towards us who actually like gaming

gaming journalist has gone down the gutter in last 2-4 years

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clrlite4491d ago

I might eat breakfast in a little while.... wait I might not eat breakfast in a little while.

Detoxx4491d ago

I FOUND CAPTAIN HINDSIGHT

Reverent4491d ago

Lol, I really wanna give you a bubble for "Helpful" but I'll give you one for "Funny" just because I assume that's what most people will give you also.

CapsLocke4491d ago

Wow,the guy got some skills.

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Nintendo Switch 2 sales shatters records, most-sold console in 24-hour period

The Nintendo Switch 2 has set a new record by selling over 3 million units within 24 hours, tripling the PlayStation 4’s previous launch day sales.

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Jin_Sakai7d ago

Crazy. Switch 2 is going to do very well.

darthv726d ago (Edited 6d ago )

No doubt, but.... the current price is out of the realm of the average parent / kid to buy like the SW1 was. So this launch achievement is from those of us with more disposable income.

The number of SW2 specific titles pales in comparison to the variety of SW1 games that get a performance boost right out of the box on this. And like the SX and PS5 before it, you can bet the majority are going to be using it as a means to better enjoy their existing titles that can benefit.

This may have been quick out of the gate... so was the WiiU. I quite enjoy it for what it is, but am keeping my expectations in check.

GenoPurpel6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

The Switch 2’s price point is great and fine and it’s still cheaper than the current gen of consoles aside from the Series S.

The only place I think they will fall short is their software sales, which also in turn may affect the hardware sales but not significantly. Parents will be fine paying for the system for their kids, but one look at an $80-$90 price tag for a single video game, that is where a lot of people will draw the line. Maybe not so much the people who are in the “willing to pay because I buy deluxe editions anyway” crowd, but for parents specifically, more sacrifices are gonna need to be made in their choices of gifts for their kids.

OtterX6d ago

As a parent of 3 with a very modest income, it was very affordable bc I already had an immense library of games, and the Mario Kart bundle came out to only about €50 more than a standard bundle. Both Zeldas were upgraded w Family Expansion Pass that I already had. Many games were upgraded for free. The only additional game I bought was Fast Fusion for 14.99 which was a great purchase!

Killer2020UK6d ago

People seem to forget that the Switch was $299 at launch which in today's money is roughly $400. That makes the Switch 2 a $50 increase when inflation is taken into account compared to the original.

Yes, people have less spending power on average compared to 2017 (Switch launch year) but this is not the MASSIVE price hike that people are making out Nintendo to be doing.

raWfodog6d ago

“No doubt, but.... the current price is out of the realm of the average parent / kid to buy like the SW1 was. So this launch achievement is from those of us with more disposable income.”

It could also be many people rushing to buy to avoid any possible tariff hikes in the future, but I think it’s still a good sign that many people still want physical consoles. Congrats to Nintendo! I’m not getting one at this time though (unless I get it for a Xmas present for one of my kids).

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1Victor6d ago

Congratulations Nintendo on finding the happy medium between their weak console and their invincible handheld plus learning from Sony and clearly defining the new console from the old unlike their Wii and Wii U just add a higher number simple yet effective 👍👍

victorMaje7d ago

Are people that keen on $90 games?
Is it true some remasters will also be $90?

DankSinatra6d ago

Tell me you don't research without telling me you don't research.

victorMaje6d ago

Nope. I didn’t research, I don’t own any Nintendo consoles and I had read on here something about $90 games on switch 2, so I guess it’s good now, people can calm down. Have a nice day :)

1nsomniac6d ago

I bought the Switch 2 I won’t be buying games at MK prices. I don’t ever pay over £45 for my games. Even my Nintendo switch exclusives I never paid more than £33 for.

franwex6d ago

I think the typo you put was meant to be $80.
Anyway, the answer to those questions seem to be yes.

victorMaje6d ago

Looks like I’ve been enlightened about the amount. Happy to see it’s not $90.

Sgt_Slaughter5d ago

Don't get your news from clickbait TikTokers/YouTubers, only go to the source (Nintendo) or reliable new outlets like IGN.

No game is $90 on the Switch 2, and they will never go there. Most games will be under $80, too.

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gold_drake7d ago

cool
wasnt expecting it not to sell well

Profchaos6d ago

Its crazy that it's both the highest selling console on day 1 and people can walk into a store and buy it with no pre order

Ashunderfire866d ago

Yup while I was waiting in line from Best Buy for Switch 2, like I did for Switch 1 back in 2017, every waiting 12am was going to get a Switch 2! I was in the no preorder line too!

My friend manage to get 4 Switch 2s at his GameStop store, that was lowkey not busy at all. Got them all for himself and his family. Super easy to get a Switch 2 over PS5.

Profchaos6d ago

The struggle to get a ps5 was real had mates wait over 2 years for stock i got lucky and got it day 1 but still

Ashunderfire866d ago

I know and I also struggled getting a preorder for the PS5, when Walmart, Best Buy among other retailers open their preorders a day early before most of us realize it. I got my PS5 launch day thanks to YouTube Live Streamer Jake Randell. He helps people get preorders and launch consoles.

Neonridr5d ago

the PS5 also released during a global pandemic.

Ashunderfire865d ago

It’s funny how I got disagrees for speaking the truth for what I experienced getting the Switch 2. Nintendo had more copies of Switch 2 than Sony for the PS5.

Don’t be butthurt about this very fact. People on here disagreeing with crazy reasons lol

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hiawa236d ago

Doesn't that mean Nintendo made sure they had plenty of stock available at retail.

Profchaos6d ago

Yeah it's nice to see they prepped for it

adamwparker6d ago

Yeah, I remember reading an article over two years ago with Nintendo stating that they were going to do all that they could to make sure their next console didn't have the PS5/XBox reseller swiping /no stock fiasco happen to them.

Looks like they made sure production met demand. Refreshing to see that the reseller thing didn't trend and I hope a lot of people who bought multiple units for the sole reason to resell then at $1000 are now stuck with them.

jznrpg6d ago

It also means there isn’t a chip shortage when PS5/Xbox came out during pandemic

gold_drake6d ago

to be where fair, we had a current gen come out during covid ha

repsahj6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

I remembered I tried 7 pre-order events during the PS5 launch. I gave up and ended up buying 1 from a scalper. But now, I already secured 1 pre-order Switch 2 unit in my country very easy and without problems.

Neonridr5d ago

kudos to Nintendo for ensuring a healthy amount of stock.

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Terry_B6d ago

Unlike the Switch 2 , the Playstation 4 was not sold on the same day in most regions.

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Activision Forces Adverts into Call of Duty Black Ops 6 and Warzone Loadouts

With the launch of Call of Duty Season 4, Activision quietly put adverts inside loadouts for Black Ops 6 and Warzone, sparking a backlash in the process.

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lukasmain14d ago

Putting Ads in a pay-to-play Premium title? Well done Microsoft. Well done /s This is really scummy.

jjb198113d ago

This game will never change because these sweatlords love buying up all the skins and bundles that become obsolete the following year. They're the ones perpetuating Activision's greed.

VenomUK12d ago

If Microsoft introduces adverts into its other games I hope it can do them without disrupting the immersion of the game world. So for example in the new Fable game it would look out of place if there was a billboard advertising Cadillacs.

A far better way to do it would be to have a wizard conjure a 'dream cloud' in front of your character and then in the cloud you can see the Cadillac car and see the text with price and availability and hear a booming sales voice promoting the car. That would work so well as it wouldn't be a billboard and completely, 100%, fit in with your character's adventuring in Albion. Doesn't that sound so much better?!

crazyCoconuts12d ago

@venom, or how about our of 100 farts in Albion, 1 of them has a Cadillac pop out

VenomUK12d ago

@crazyCoconuts That’s undeniably off-beat - but it could really work!

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Xbox's first-party handheld has been sidelined

Xbox's handheld ambitions continue unabated, but the focus is shifting towards improving Windows 11 for third-party handhelds — for now. The Xbox Series X 'Melrose' successor is safe, with development continuing at full pace.

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shadowT16d ago

Is there really a market for handhelds next to mobile?

Vits15d ago

If they run the same games as the main home console, then yeah, sure.
But if they need specially tailored games just for them? Probably not, unless there isn't a home console for comparison (see Switch).

RaidenBlack15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

I am kinda low-key happy this happened.
Dont want another Series S situation (games to be designed from 4 to 12TF scale and not 10 to 12TF).
Hope PS follows suit as well. Tablet SKU sharing with console for 10th gen, will just continue the cross gen -esque development/design phase/nature.
Want a proper 20+ only TF rasterized next-gen plz (+ frame-gen and the lot).
If anybody wants to continue the cross-gen, the Series S|X, PS5 will remain for that. And Switch 2, if you gotta go even lower in the TF range.

ABizzel115d ago

Yes and No. All of the PC handhelds combined have struggled to sell 7 million units, which would be a flop for any “console”. So the market is extremely niche because of price and target market (the informed hardcore gamer / casuals aren’t picking these up).

These handheld PCs are $500 or more, and offer at best Xbox Series S performance levels, so it’s best for MS specifically to just partner with ASUS, instead of investing millions if not billions.

Sony can make their own with custom AMD hardware due to their partnership, and stronger global brand for hardware. But even then it brings the question, of being a lower resolution PS5, and what does that mean for PS6 cross-gen (likely another generation where the first 3 - 4 years are just upgraded last-gen games).

Kosic15d ago

Imagine a Wii U style console, where the tablet doesn't rely on the console it's self, you download the game on the console under the TV and play in 4k glory, then you can remote play, get some unique game features if using both console and handheld in tandem. Then you can download the games in 720-1080p to play on the go, continue your progress, and continue on the TV when you get back.

Sony could get away with this due to exclusives, and that would be a reason for sales. Look at the portal.

I can picture seeing new hardware having some sort of GPU dock, where the handheld runs 1080p, and the dock has additional hardware to bring in 4k/60 specs.

I do think handheld gaming is going to be a strong future, imagine Nintendo release a new upgraded GPU dock for the Switch 3, every 2 years. More frames, sharper graphics on the same game for an extra £150 for a dock with a built in GPU chip. Console cycles doesn't have to be renewed, just the hardware can be improved by them reselling docks to us again and again with small/yearly upgrades like mobile phones.

GamerRN15d ago

Did you just imply that Sony can make a better stronger handheld than Microsoft? You do realize we are talking about Microsoft, the tech giant, right? If Microsoft can't make one that's cost effective, Sony definitely can't...

Brand and market share means nothing when you are a trillion dollar company

ABizzel114d ago

@GamerRN

It has nothing to do with what company can do it, or what company can spend.

For anyone taking a basic business class there is a term called ROI, and Xbox home consoles are selling at an all time low, meaning their ROI on a handheld is a risk that doesn’t make sense, even if they can afford it. Businesses are there to make money and it doesn’t make sene for MS to invest in a handheld that’s a companion device when their current home consoles they’ve spent 20 years working on are at an all time-low, when they can invest with little risk with what ASUS already has to offer.

This is why Sony can build a better device, because they have less risk involved, meaning they can invest more in their own product, and they already have an exclusive partnership with AMD on creating features and hardware. So in this specific case, YES Sony can built a better handheld, due to custom hardware, customer tools, low level APIs, compared to an off the shelf product running Windows or a Window Xbox kernel =.

TheEroica15d ago

I play steam deck primarily... Don't play consoles or mobile. The deck covers it all.

badz14915d ago

@shadowT

The Switch is a handheld, so will the Switch 2. what are you on about?

Cacabunga14d ago

To run native games offline? Anytime

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CrashMania15d ago

Funny to see the alt already damage controlling and having a meltdown with multiple accounts in the comments already.

Sad for MS if true, a dedicated handheld would go down a lot better than a rog ally 2 with an Xbox sticker on it I think.

crazyCoconuts15d ago

It couldn't have succeeded for a number of reasons. Now they've retreated to the Windows front and trying to keep that relevant for gaming. How long before Windows Central realizes there won't be a real console successor to Series X either?

Lightning7715d ago

Except there is. That project is reportedly full speed ahead.

Outside_ofthe_Box15d ago

@Lighting77

So was the handheld until today...

Lightning7715d ago

@outside obviously not since they sidelined it and they wanna see how the Asus does. Are you saying they're gonna cancel the next console?

crazyCoconuts15d ago

@lightning - I'm admittedly trying to box you in here - Do you think the next Xbox console will have Steam on it?

Outside_ofthe_Box15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

@Lightning

Here we go with having to spell everything out.

If I told you yesterday that Xbox was going to sideline the handheld console what would your response have been? Probably something along the lines of "I doubt that since Phil has been talking about it for some time now"

My point is just because they are "full speed" ahead now does not mean that will not change in future. As we have seen with the handheld. Do you understand what I'm trying to say now?

Lightning7715d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Box me in? No you said the same thing you've always been saying for years now. Those are the rumors to have Steam integration.

What about it

If you told me they were gonna cancel it tomorrow it would nothing more than fanboy talking points. I only wait for credible sources not what someone else says.

Also this is the handheld not a full blown new console. The Asus is yet to release and they're waiting to see how that thing does. Critical thinking is my strong suit you should try it some time if you can. But Ok cool well you hang your hat on that I guess. Main New console is gonna get cancelled even though the handheld is a different marketing device than the main the console itself.

__y2jb15d ago

I think there is a 75% chance there will not be another Xbox. There is zero reason to buy one now. No way it can possibly sell more than 10m units after Xbox went third party.

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BLow15d ago

That's what they do. Goalposts shift like the wind.

I'm really confused on why they are making a "first party" device and also have a Rog Ally with their sticker on it. Make this make sense. How is their own device going to be any different?

Your console doesn't sell and they expect a handheld to?

RaidenBlack15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

The Rog Ally one is gen agnostic ... as you deciphered, it was to be the updated Rog Ally but just with Xbox branding. PC handheld with some Xbox features.
The handheld Xbox is/was supposed to be sharing the same gen/ecosystem with the next-gen (10th gen) Xbox. Think Series S but handheld ... it'll run the Xbox OS or whatever the next Xbox will run.
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As for anybody wondering/confused why MS is doing another Xbox console ... coz mainly its the 10th gen of home consoles next, which started wayy back in 1972 for the 1st gen. And MS wanna be part in it, in the 10th anniversary gen of consoles. If they gotta bow out, they can't do that at 9th i.e just before 10th. They wanna stick around till the 10th or the X-th gen and check what the fuss happens.

Outside_ofthe_Box15d ago

Curious as to what excuses the spam was saying. Because prior to this news, the Xbox handheld was used as proof that Xbox is still committed to the hardware space. This handheld being scraped is not a good sign...

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Outside_ofthe_Box15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

@Spam
You can replace scrapped with pushed back if you like. It's not a good sign either way.

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1Victor15d ago

asq3= obscured: “ What’s your source on the handheld being scrapped? “
Read the article from Microsoft own website and one of your favorite quotations site when it’s something bad about Sony.
Oh BTW good luck with your next SPAM account.

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