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Has the Wii U had a better launch than the 360 did?

Nintendo has taken a lot of heat from gamers and the gaming press for the Wii U's lack of software after launch. Comparing it against this generations top console, the Xbox 360, the Wii U actually measures up quite well.

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Zodiac4516d ago

I think so. Some high quality games were ports, but the they were still higher quality games than the ones that launched for the xbox in 2005.

Forget if they are ports or just enhanced versions. Just look at the games themselves and you will see that the Wii U had a high quality launch.

Thatguy-3104516d ago

It does but wii u won't have the legs the 360 had in the long run.

Deku-Johnny4516d ago

Nintendo's consoles always have legs to stand on because of their 1st part titles. They pretty much carried the Wii by themselves and if they have to they'll carry the Wii U that's how they've managed to keep going all these years they're the only ones who could have a successful console with next to no third party support.

mcstorm4516d ago

I think the Wiiu will have legs. I think next generation will be closer between all 3 this time around as they will all offer similar experiences where this gem the 360 and ps3 were similar and the Wii was different so the people who got a ps3 did not get a 360 and vice versa where alto that got a ps3 or 360 got a Wii. Plus Nintendo managed to grab the big market in terms of the none core.

This time round Sony Microsoft and Nintendo will be going after both markets from day one rather than part way through the gen.

Ju4516d ago (Edited 4516d ago )

That's hardly comparable. First the 360 had a slow start, no doubt about it. But the PS3 wasn't the end it all console as many had hoped. So, eventually the decision wasn't so clear why to actually wait that long for a console you can have today.

This time I am quite certain that both PS4 and 720 (or whatever they will be called) will be quite a step up from what Nintendo has to offer.

Sure, we haven't yet seen what the WiiU can do, and I expect better looking games than ports. But I am quite certain it won't match neither 720 nor 360 level. Depends on the additional features (like the tablet controller, Kinect or w/e Sony is cooking up) what is the distinguishing factor between the three.

I am not sure if I want all these gimicks; I just want pretty games which play like what we have. But maybe that's just me. I am in no rush to change everything - how we play games. Maybe I'm just too old fashioned.

blackbeld4516d ago

My predictions for next ten.

1 PS4
2 WiiU
3 720 xbox

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xursz4516d ago

It had a good enough launch line up but I can't ignore the fact that nothing they have has topped the games that are releasing on current generation systems.

In other words when are they going to surpass ps3 and xbox360.

Deku-Johnny4516d ago

When PS3 and 360 released they had nothing that topped the games being released on PS2/Xbox/Gamecube, what's your point?

lilbroRx4516d ago (Edited 4516d ago )

When are they going to top the last gen consoles that have been on the market for 7 years?

I'd image when a similar amount of time has passed, or did I miss the console that achieved a 70 million a user install base and peek performance in 2 months?

xursz4516d ago

New consoles are supposed to be better and perform better than old consoles. I guess you can chalk it up to lazy porting but third party games have actually been worse on WiiU.

Resistance Fall of Man was leaps and bounds better than Black. So yes I expect next gen games to be better than current consoles, otherwise what's the point in "upgrading" to a new system.

Imalwaysright4516d ago (Edited 4516d ago )

"When PS3 and 360 released they had nothing that topped the games being released on PS2/Xbox/Gamecube, what's your point?"

I purchased my PS3 a few months after it launched here in Europe and it came with 2 games (starter pack) : Motorstorm and RFoM. Motorstorm absolutely destroyed what had been done on the previous gen graphically speaking. I know that you want to defend the Wii U and I will purchase one soon as Zelda gets released but there is no need for you to lie. BTW Motorstorm was released just one month after the PS3 launched in Japan.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Deku-Johnny4515d ago

@Imalwaysright, I wasn't speaking graphically. I meant the games weren't much better than what was already available on the other consoles in terms of how good the games were rather than how good they looked.

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Starfox174516d ago

I think so and with MH Utimate and LegoCity in a month ? very good

corrus4516d ago

I think that on Wii U the luck runs out your luck runs out hehe awesome song

GalacticEmpire4516d ago

Unless we see a WiiU RROD, I'd say yes.

Seriously though, there are some quality games out already and with the promise of HD Mario Kart and Zelda I'm tempted to buy one myself.

KnightRobby4516d ago

My question is: Can it sustain itself for the next year with 2 major next-generation consoles releasing?

I believe that it can to a degree because of its first-party titles. If they keep pushing their first-party content, this would be the reason to purchase the Wii U. And it looks to have a lot of good upcoming games.

Then again, so does the PS4 and Xbox 720 - and many of the first-party titles haven't even been unveiled from Sony or Microsoft. And they're going to look a lot more appealing to anyone ready for next-gen consoles...

lilbroRx4516d ago (Edited 4516d ago )

The Wii did that and more. Why can't the Wii U?

Ju4516d ago (Edited 4516d ago )

Different markets. Wii was cheap and focused on family oriented markets. While the WiiU is not. Wii sold in a complementary market, WiiU sells in to a competitive market. Currently it doesn't look so good that the WiiU actually sells half of the other current gen consoles sell. I would be more optimistic if it would at least sell in the same range. But it doesn't. Wii as a competitor only plays a smaller role here; the sales tanked. But it might be enough to cut Nintendo's own margin in the family market (which doesn't matter for Nintendo right now - because they can't care less where their money is coming from).

Hicken4516d ago

The Wii U is not the Wii. That;s obvious enough to those of us who frequent sites such as this: we should all be well aware of the differences in the two systems, who they're aimed at, and so on.

The fact that the people OUTSIDE of core gamers don't really know that is what will wind up hurting the Wii U. Since many of them see little more than an add-on to the Wii(which is mostly Nintendo's fault), the market that previously bought the Wii won't have as much interest. And that market is far larger than the one the Wii U targets: the core.

It's not impossible, but I don't think the Wii U will have anywhere like the runaway success that was the Wii.

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AMD CEO Shares Vision Behind Xbox Partnership and Next-Gen Chip Roadmap

AMD CEO Lisa Su talks about the Xbox AMD partnership, next-gen Ryzen + Radeon chips, and AI rendering tech coming to all Xbox devices.

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Obscure_Observer1d 15h ago

AMD is really building hype around their unique partnership with Microsoft to help and build an advanced and seamless Xbox ecosystem across all Xbox consoles and devices.

I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimized chips" though? Seems ambitious.

Next year´s Xbox Showcase already looks promising and exciting. Here´s hoping they deliver.

InUrFoxHole1d 9h ago

They had best show 3yrs in a row. Heading for another

VenomUK1d 2h ago

Obscure_Observer said “I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimised chips" though? Seems ambitious.” To me, I interpret this to mean rather than having a couple of X/S products for launch and a handheld there is a longer term plan to release new products with higher specs at timed intervals. I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec.

Agent7516h ago

But Microsoft forgot the games.

KwietStorm_BLM21h ago

It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever.

Ganif20h ago

Correct.

"Sony's PlayStation 6 reportedly will feature an AMD semi-custom APU with a Zen 5 CPU and UDNA GPU, capable of 4K 120FPS and 8K 60FPS gaming. The console will include X3D cache and advanced AI upscaling technology."

https://www.tweaktown.com/n...

Obscure_Observer16h ago

"It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever."

I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released.

Notellin16h ago

You should have just lead this comment with the fact that you have zero understanding of technology in the consoles and instead have a Toms Hardware online forum level of education.

Agent7516h ago

But Microsoft forgot the games

Obscure_Observer16h ago

@VenomUK

"I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec."

Very interesting theory. Still not sure how MS would actually make it work.

KwietStorm_BLM12h ago

"I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released."

How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is.

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Fishy Fingers1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

Some odd, deliberate wording, no branding, not 'Xbox consoles, Xbox handhelds' specifically, feels and sounds like they're building towards hardware that anyone can be used or licensed to/by themselves and other manufacturers.

Multiplatform software and hardware 'Xbox/AMD APU'.

Obscure_Observer1d 14h ago

I guess you missed Sarah Bond´s next generation Xbox announcement this week, were she clearly states:

"I´m thrilled to share that we´ve established a strategic multi-year partnership with AMD to co-engineer silicon across a portfolio of devices, including, *our* next generation *Xbox consoles*."

But hey, I don´t think you´re entirely wrong, maybe MS will build their own Xbox consoles while licencing other manufactures to build and sell their own Xbox branded consoles. Who knows

BeHunted1d 10h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

I think you watched the wrong video. It's below the description, or you can watch it directly on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/kprpRvsOua...

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HyperMoused1d 14h ago

Shares vision....we provide chips for money, this deal will sell many chips, we will make lots of money...good vision

Christopher1d 14h ago

The marketing behind this is so heavy that I worry about the actual outcome. Why are they just not showing us the product, why all this talking in market speak?

Lightning771d 9h ago

Probably because the next xbox isn't ready to release yet?

The marketing and rumors seem to be heavy out of no where. The rumor was a 27 release but it maybe it could be 26 new console launch instead.

Who knows.

Eonjay21h ago

There PR is alrways super heavy handed. No one is acutally buying an Xbox as is.
Also it is very early to be talking so much about a next gen console.

Obscure_Observer16h ago

There´s a lot of people interested on Xbox Next and its ability to run games from major stores like Steam.

We know that the PS6 is just around the corner as well, but so far, no news on what it might improve over the PS5 or PS5 Pro.

However, Sony already made public that their priority and actual focus is the PS6. So its not "very early" to talk about next gen when the very console manufactures are talking about it.

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Nintendo Switch 2 sales shatters records, most-sold console in 24-hour period

The Nintendo Switch 2 has set a new record by selling over 3 million units within 24 hours, tripling the PlayStation 4’s previous launch day sales.

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Jin_Sakai13d ago

Crazy. Switch 2 is going to do very well.

darthv7212d ago (Edited 12d ago )

No doubt, but.... the current price is out of the realm of the average parent / kid to buy like the SW1 was. So this launch achievement is from those of us with more disposable income.

The number of SW2 specific titles pales in comparison to the variety of SW1 games that get a performance boost right out of the box on this. And like the SX and PS5 before it, you can bet the majority are going to be using it as a means to better enjoy their existing titles that can benefit.

This may have been quick out of the gate... so was the WiiU. I quite enjoy it for what it is, but am keeping my expectations in check.

GenoPurpel12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

The Switch 2’s price point is great and fine and it’s still cheaper than the current gen of consoles aside from the Series S.

The only place I think they will fall short is their software sales, which also in turn may affect the hardware sales but not significantly. Parents will be fine paying for the system for their kids, but one look at an $80-$90 price tag for a single video game, that is where a lot of people will draw the line. Maybe not so much the people who are in the “willing to pay because I buy deluxe editions anyway” crowd, but for parents specifically, more sacrifices are gonna need to be made in their choices of gifts for their kids.

OtterX12d ago

As a parent of 3 with a very modest income, it was very affordable bc I already had an immense library of games, and the Mario Kart bundle came out to only about €50 more than a standard bundle. Both Zeldas were upgraded w Family Expansion Pass that I already had. Many games were upgraded for free. The only additional game I bought was Fast Fusion for 14.99 which was a great purchase!

Killer2020UK12d ago

People seem to forget that the Switch was $299 at launch which in today's money is roughly $400. That makes the Switch 2 a $50 increase when inflation is taken into account compared to the original.

Yes, people have less spending power on average compared to 2017 (Switch launch year) but this is not the MASSIVE price hike that people are making out Nintendo to be doing.

raWfodog12d ago

“No doubt, but.... the current price is out of the realm of the average parent / kid to buy like the SW1 was. So this launch achievement is from those of us with more disposable income.”

It could also be many people rushing to buy to avoid any possible tariff hikes in the future, but I think it’s still a good sign that many people still want physical consoles. Congrats to Nintendo! I’m not getting one at this time though (unless I get it for a Xmas present for one of my kids).

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1Victor12d ago

Congratulations Nintendo on finding the happy medium between their weak console and their invincible handheld plus learning from Sony and clearly defining the new console from the old unlike their Wii and Wii U just add a higher number simple yet effective 👍👍

victorMaje13d ago

Are people that keen on $90 games?
Is it true some remasters will also be $90?

DankSinatra12d ago

Tell me you don't research without telling me you don't research.

victorMaje12d ago

Nope. I didn’t research, I don’t own any Nintendo consoles and I had read on here something about $90 games on switch 2, so I guess it’s good now, people can calm down. Have a nice day :)

1nsomniac12d ago

I bought the Switch 2 I won’t be buying games at MK prices. I don’t ever pay over £45 for my games. Even my Nintendo switch exclusives I never paid more than £33 for.

franwex12d ago

I think the typo you put was meant to be $80.
Anyway, the answer to those questions seem to be yes.

victorMaje12d ago

Looks like I’ve been enlightened about the amount. Happy to see it’s not $90.

Sgt_Slaughter11d ago

Don't get your news from clickbait TikTokers/YouTubers, only go to the source (Nintendo) or reliable new outlets like IGN.

No game is $90 on the Switch 2, and they will never go there. Most games will be under $80, too.

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gold_drake13d ago

cool
wasnt expecting it not to sell well

Profchaos13d ago

Its crazy that it's both the highest selling console on day 1 and people can walk into a store and buy it with no pre order

Ashunderfire8612d ago

Yup while I was waiting in line from Best Buy for Switch 2, like I did for Switch 1 back in 2017, every waiting 12am was going to get a Switch 2! I was in the no preorder line too!

My friend manage to get 4 Switch 2s at his GameStop store, that was lowkey not busy at all. Got them all for himself and his family. Super easy to get a Switch 2 over PS5.

Profchaos12d ago

The struggle to get a ps5 was real had mates wait over 2 years for stock i got lucky and got it day 1 but still

Ashunderfire8612d ago

I know and I also struggled getting a preorder for the PS5, when Walmart, Best Buy among other retailers open their preorders a day early before most of us realize it. I got my PS5 launch day thanks to YouTube Live Streamer Jake Randell. He helps people get preorders and launch consoles.

Neonridr12d ago

the PS5 also released during a global pandemic.

Ashunderfire8611d ago

It’s funny how I got disagrees for speaking the truth for what I experienced getting the Switch 2. Nintendo had more copies of Switch 2 than Sony for the PS5.

Don’t be butthurt about this very fact. People on here disagreeing with crazy reasons lol

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hiawa2312d ago

Doesn't that mean Nintendo made sure they had plenty of stock available at retail.

Profchaos12d ago

Yeah it's nice to see they prepped for it

adamwparker12d ago

Yeah, I remember reading an article over two years ago with Nintendo stating that they were going to do all that they could to make sure their next console didn't have the PS5/XBox reseller swiping /no stock fiasco happen to them.

Looks like they made sure production met demand. Refreshing to see that the reseller thing didn't trend and I hope a lot of people who bought multiple units for the sole reason to resell then at $1000 are now stuck with them.

jznrpg12d ago

It also means there isn’t a chip shortage when PS5/Xbox came out during pandemic

gold_drake12d ago

to be where fair, we had a current gen come out during covid ha

repsahj12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I remembered I tried 7 pre-order events during the PS5 launch. I gave up and ended up buying 1 from a scalper. But now, I already secured 1 pre-order Switch 2 unit in my country very easy and without problems.

Neonridr12d ago

kudos to Nintendo for ensuring a healthy amount of stock.

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Terry_B13d ago

Unlike the Switch 2 , the Playstation 4 was not sold on the same day in most regions.

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Activision Forces Adverts into Call of Duty Black Ops 6 and Warzone Loadouts

With the launch of Call of Duty Season 4, Activision quietly put adverts inside loadouts for Black Ops 6 and Warzone, sparking a backlash in the process.

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lukasmain20d ago

Putting Ads in a pay-to-play Premium title? Well done Microsoft. Well done /s This is really scummy.

jjb198119d ago

This game will never change because these sweatlords love buying up all the skins and bundles that become obsolete the following year. They're the ones perpetuating Activision's greed.

VenomUK19d ago

If Microsoft introduces adverts into its other games I hope it can do them without disrupting the immersion of the game world. So for example in the new Fable game it would look out of place if there was a billboard advertising Cadillacs.

A far better way to do it would be to have a wizard conjure a 'dream cloud' in front of your character and then in the cloud you can see the Cadillac car and see the text with price and availability and hear a booming sales voice promoting the car. That would work so well as it wouldn't be a billboard and completely, 100%, fit in with your character's adventuring in Albion. Doesn't that sound so much better?!

crazyCoconuts18d ago

@venom, or how about our of 100 farts in Albion, 1 of them has a Cadillac pop out

VenomUK18d ago

@crazyCoconuts That’s undeniably off-beat - but it could really work!

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