Talking Point: Wii U's Graphical Grunt is Laid Bare - Shall We Play Games Now?

Today perhaps brings a little closure, for those inclined to allow such a thing, with details and analysis emerging of the Wii U's GPU. Since before its release Wii U has been scrutinised by some in terms of its graphical capabilities, and there are plenty of people who focus on that area when debating whether it's "next gen", a term with no solid definition in the gaming industry — it means different things depending on who you talk to. The CPU speeds of the system were reportedly reverse engineered and clocked last year, so an understanding of Wii U's graphical grunt both now and in the future rested on the setup of the GPU, which Nintendo itself has said is the focus of the system's infrastructure.

Following today's Digital Foundry breakdown of the Wii U GPU, Nintendo Life considers whether a line can now be drawn in debates about Wii U graphical power.

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Qrphe2443d ago

We'll see games that'll look better than TLoU or Beyond on the Wii U eventually, we can trust Nintendo's 1st party studios to do it.

bicfitness2443d ago

With a tripple core, juiced up Gamecube CPU and a 4650 HD GPU? Honestly, it has been confirmed that the system is on par or less capable than last gen-machines, so please stop this nonsense. The Wii U will be what the Wii was to the PS360, only without the benefit of the casual flock, who have apparently moved onto tablets or Facebook or whatever doesn't concern the vast majority of posters here.

Admittance is the first step to recovery.

herbs2443d ago

I ran out of bubbles on the Wii U GPU discussion so I'm going to post this here. Digital Foundry and Eurogamer made it sound like they had the GPU specs nailed down 100% but they are infact making some assumptions and there are still some very big??? It's super lame when sites jump the gun like this just for hits on there site because they know the fanboys will eat it up.
This video sums it up eloquently...

herbs2442d ago

Bicfitness the Gpu has been confirmed to be at worst 1.5X than that of PS360 and far more modern and efficient, how does that make it less powerful? Oh of course your using fanboy logic.

bicfitness2442d ago (Edited 2442d ago )

@ herbs. You realize that once you factor in the crap CPU and the low-bandwidth, garbage memory, that you have bottlenecks at every corner? Doesn't matter how strong the GPU is if it is starved for resources.

The problem with N4G, and internet commentators in general, is that they often have little to no clue what they are talking about. Go build PCs or code some archaic language and get back to me in a few years. The people counting the SOC and modules are far, far better at this than you. There's wild speculation, then there's educated approximation, this is the latter. The fact that Nintendo are using modified tech, from the RAM to the CPU to the GPU, which each varies from 5-10 years old in their "new" machine should be an embarrassment enough.

BullyMangler2443d ago

So whats the deal? . Nintendo gonna show this generation ps3 and 360 HOW to skillfully use this much power? . . Oh okay sounds good, buy me a ticket, ill pay you later

lilbroRx2443d ago

Truthfully we already have when you go into overall detail. I don't see ZombiU being achieved on the last gen console without massive downgrades.

The individual zombie details, character details and the detail to the environment(above all else) just dismissed anything I've seen last gen on a technical level.

Not even going to get into the Monoliths X demo.

Genuine-User2443d ago (Edited 2443d ago )

Have you not seen Halo 4, The Last of Us, God of War Ascension, Bioshock Infinite, Beyond Two Souls and many other titles that are factually graphically superior than the game you name.
Listen I have nothing against Nintendo or Zombie U, matter of fact I plan on buying both the Wii u and Zombie U this summer but that doesn't mean I can't see the obvious difference.
I hope you aren't comparing Wii u to the Wii.

lilbroRx2443d ago

Yes, I have seen and played Halo 4.

I'm talking about on a technical level, not on a level of opinion.(ie. what you found most impressive or which game you like more)

Whether or not you liked how a game looked and what it is it factually doing are 2 different matters. I'm speaking on the latter.

Can you go into a grocery store and looks at hundreds of unique, detailed objects as well as see people really fully rendered teeth, hair and fingernails in Halo 4?

Scale is the big differentiator here. The graphics aren't just pumped into a few single entities to make them look good with remapped textures everywhere. The detail is distributed through many things. The geometry is complex, and a lot of these things you can interact with in ZombiU

Qrphe2443d ago

ZombiU has awful textures. However, the lighting in some areas of the game is very well done (Spitalfields Green for example).

deafdani2443d ago

No. No. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Just NO.

Zombi U is barely a decent looking game. It's nothing spectacular by any means, and certainly doesn't compare to any of the best looking games available for PS3 and Xbox 360. Mass Effect 2 & 3, Batman Arkham City, all the Uncharted games (yes, even the first one), Red Dead Redemption, God of War 3, Halo 4 and a plethora of many other games are undeniably better than Zombi U graphically.

As for Monolith's X demo... we haven't seen enough of that game to judge properly, either in a positive or negative way. The initial impression was a pretty good one, though. It looked VERY good, but we still haven't seen anything that tell us, without any margin of doubt, that it was something not possible on Xbox 360 or PS3.

Stop obsessing so much about the Wii U's power and enjoy its games.

lilbroRx2443d ago (Edited 2443d ago )

The only one "obsessing" over anything here is you. I'm not making any claims of ZombiU being a graphical beast or this huge achievement. I'm just saying that what I've seen looks more detailed than anything I remember on my PS3 or 360 overall.

I just made a simple analysis and people are raging over it.

When I look at something I look at all of the details. I don't say, "Oh look at the face" or "look at the car", "oh look at the shiny armor" and stop there. I look at everything in detail.

I'd image me and you see entirely different things when we look at these.

or these 2

deafdani2443d ago (Edited 2443d ago )

This in particular is what bothers me:

"Truthfully we already have when you go into overall detail. I don't see ZombiU being achieved on the last gen console without massive downgrades."

That's simply not true. Zombi U, graphically speaking, is perfectly doable on PS3 and Xbox 360. Now, when it comes to gameplay, that's another matter entirely, because of the Wii U's gamepad integration on that game, which is superb. But the graphics? Yeah, perfectly possible.

"I'm just saying that what I've seen looks more detailed than anything I remember on my PS3 or 360 overall."

So, you're comparing Zombi U with a 2008 game? Left 4 Dead is hardly a benchmark of what the Xbox 360 can do graphically. Try any of the games I listed for you on my first reply, and you'll see a massive difference.

You said Zombi U is impressive on a technical level, but you don't specify anything beyond that. Technical means particles, AI, physics, lighting effects, etc. Zombi U isn't anything special on any of these departments, except maybe in the lighting, which is really, really good.

What are those details you speak of? Because trust me, I've looked at Zombi U's graphics pretty closely. As I said, it's a decent looking game. The graphics fit the tone perfectly, but it's not anything impressive, neither from a technical nor artistic standpoint.

What makes Zombi U truly memorable is the gameplay.

Waddy1012443d ago

ZombiU is by no means a technological feat, there are a lot more detailed and better looking games out there on PS3 and 360.

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metroidfusion22443d ago

Digital foundry don't know anything and are judging to early

kunluncat2443d ago

Yes, but there are not enough games to play on wiiu now.

Ck1x2443d ago

Whatever people need to tell themselves these days! Tomorrow there will be an article on N4G, of how the Vita is actually twice as powerful as the WiiU as well... Lol

stuna12443d ago

That sounds about right! Since it has been said to be more powerful in certain areas compare to the ps3.

I couldn't care less! It just seems that so many have developed a severe case of amnesia concerning what has been said previously to the release of the WII U.

Don't let me go into detail as far as what was said about the ps3 and yes the xbox360! It just seems only fair that the WII U and nintendo will have to prove themselves just like the others have had too! Instead of recieving a free pass.

Now bring on the disagrees.......

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