PS3 vs. Xbox 360 ports: The cold, hard truth - GamePro feature

GamePro examines four recent multi-platform titles to determine which console has the better games -- PS3 or Xbox 360. What they discovered challenges the common wisdom that "Xbox 360 is better."

[Mr_Kuwabara]

I was about to submit this but someone got in the bloody way!

=P

It's good to see that now it's impossible to make a duplicate story using the same link/story altogether since once you put the link source, you're blocked from the person who beat you to it.

Anyway nice article..

[blacsheep]

waiting for fanboy warfare on this article

[Tempist]

Eh, I didn't like it. Found it bled too much testosterone for me. But hey, good try and good method.

[Maddens Raiders]

Herr Kuwabara. [When you try to submit the same story and someone beat you to it with the same link it will let you know who it is]

The concrete conclusion that I took from this article is not that PlayStation is an excellent brand or has great ports coming out for it, but that the PS3 is affecting hearts and minds.

We should bomb our enemies with crates of PS3's (with LBP pre-loaded) and see what happens. It's just an idea. 8D

[sonarus]

uh oh.
I have been saying it for quite a while if its not a fps or a racer ps3 controller feels better. I own both and i have played both extensively. 360 controller for me is a complete fiasco when it comes to fighting games. Tried playing MK3 on it and it was just terrible. How the hell do you want me to perform cool moves and fatalities on a joystick and the damn dpad seems to have webbed feet or something?

[kevoncox]

Above....
It's also better for sports games and action games...
Basically Sony's stick is only better for fighters and puzzle games.

[marinelife9]

Either make the PS3 the lead and port over to 360 or have two separate teams dedicated to each console like Infinity Ward did with COD4.

Developers have already discovered that it doesn't work well when you make the 360 version first and then try to port.

[cmrbe]

The x360 controller is made for FPS but not for fighting or 3rd person games. However the PS3 controller still is good to play FPS. I have no problem using the analog sticks for aiming in Resistance. When i played virtual fighter on x360. Trying to do combos is a pain in the ass with the positioning of the buttons. Its hard to use the index and middle finger on button pads for x360.

[sonarus]

I disagree on the sports an action. I think ps3 controller edges out here as well especially on the sports.I have madden 08 on 360 and ps3(bought 360 version got ps3 version from a friend) and i can tell you it really only boils down to preference. The only advantage would be in the R2 being easier for running. On the other hand performing truck moves on the 360 controller where you have to push the right bumper and right stick is quite uncomfortable. A lot more comfortable using R1 and right stick.

I am being very objective in saying this you have to admit the bumbers arent as comfortable as R1&R2 and triggers are more comfortable than R2&L2. All that rubbish about 360 controls being tighter is rubbish to me especially when i play both versions of games cus i don't notice any difference. I still get the same kills as quickly as i would using both controlers. In fps where you have to use sniper maybe but thats when you need to be extremely precise. Other rubbish is 360 controller is heavier i never knew controller weight had any effect on gameplay. I own a dualshock 3 and i gave it to my friend to play nba 2k8 with and he couldnt stop complaining about how heavy it was and i'm like wtf. Everyone has preference.

I give 360 controller advantage on games where you are mostly pushing triggers e.g. racers and shooters. Games where you need more than triggers ps3 controller usually comes untop for me

[hades07]

I have to say I am amazed and impressed with the people commenting here today. Usually a biased article like this would have a war started by now, but other than a couple of people like power of green it seems quite civil.

It's nice to see people just expressing there opinions and not shoving it down someone else's throat, like I prefer peer to peer networking because in a couple of years if I want to play a game I don't have to worry about dedicated servers, just if people still want to play.

[LJWooly]

Yeah, while seperating the comments into zones hasn't really solved the fanboyism problem, it has sort of motivated a few people to try and police themselves a wee bit.

Great job, N4G :)

[skynidas]

WOW i'm surprised that ps3 won

[THWIP]

...considering the writer's comments didn't WARRANT a PS3 win. Completely bogus article, and a waste of time. This guy basically says there's little to no differences between the games he highlights, then finishes with "PlayStation 3 beats the Xbox 360 handily". He tries his best to hide it, but it's obvious he's a biased Sony fanboy.

[deeznuts]

He's trying to correct the imbalance created many moons ago by Gamespot when they compared games from a 3 day old console to one released a year ago.

:P

[Monchichi025]

GAME PRO said the PS3 was better!!! What a SOCKER!!! LOL (Sense the Sarcasim!) C'mon now, we all know Game Pro is in Bed with Sony and has always and will always be biased towards Sony. Article is useless.

[skitzoid]

Awe buck up buckaroo. Wipe those tears away and turn that frown upside down.

Some people put way to much weight on reviewers and their opinions. Whenever the opinion differs from your own they are bias. It's just "their" opinion. Why do you let it bother you so?

[power of Green]

The issue has never been about how easy the 360 can run PS3 ports, the Multi platform issue has to do with the PS3 having trouble with 360 ports.

This guy's PS3 prefference has nothing to do with the issue nor does it have to do with many other games.

Button mapping and DualShock prefference has nothing to do with the Multi platform problem, dedicated servers has nothing to do with Texture issues or frame rate problems.

COD4 was developed for each platform from the ground up for the most part, the others had PS3 in mind" we already know the 360 can handle PS3 ports easily the issue is the PS3 handling 360 ports etc.

DualShock doesn't solve theses issues, finding a few games doesn't get rid of the issue.

[moparful99]

Power of Green you are like a cancer on this site. Im tired of reading your anti ps3 commenting. Instead of participating in healthy debate you seek out ps3 related articles and then proceed to denounce it as much as you can. You speak as though the 360 is the god of gaming and ignore the negatives. EVERY console has negatives, there never has nor there probably never will be a perfect console considering the differing tastes of the consumers and the type things we ask our consoles to do. I could go on all day about the qaulity of the 360 or the shovelware that gets released but for what? There is no point because you have your mind made up and arent open minded to others opinions. I really wish you wouldn't come in here with your overflowing testosterone and biased opinions...

[Smudge2626]

I had the same problem with the article that you mentioned. In almost every category he mentioned, it was a close call between the systems or one had a single feature that was better. Concluding the article by saying that the PS3 "won handily" is completely incongruous with the points he made. I thought the conclusion seemed a little biased, but it doesn't mean with completely certainty that he is a Sony fanboy, just that he needs to write a better article that supports his conclusion.

[Scrooge]

3 out of 4 of those games have the best version on PC. PC FTW!

[DiabloRising]

Anyone else sick of the media fueling the whole console war/fanboy BS?

[rawd]

It's getting very old.

[BeaArthur]

It doesn't bother me from a debate standpoint. When people can debate like civilized human beings and not scream obscenities at each other because someone like Resistance and someone likes GOW you can get a lot of good view points. I get sick of constantly seeing dumb people on forums for the sake of trying to irritate someone because they like something different. I own both I like different things about both and I will continue to play both.

[green]

This issue was news in 2007.As of 2008 all the multiplats are equal,so its just down to your console of choice or your controller preference.

articles like this are no longer needed

[novaIS350]

It's mainly for page views, advertising dollars pay the bills. More page views equal more long term advertisers, which of course equates to more revenue. Not to say that the site/magazine loses any credibility... but this is why they have these articles (with flamebait titles), we're all fascinated by competition etc. etc.

[Ri0tSquad]

It'll never stop though.

[Skizelli]

Only people with small wieners fall into this kind of crap. And if you're passed puberty and still involved in console flame wars, grow up. Whatever happened to live and let live? Play what you enjoy and STFU. We're all gamers here. Some more than others. Why do people have to argue about what they *think* is better? As a gamer, I really don't give a rat's ass about a console's power, so long as it pumps out some great games and new experiences. I still go back and play retro games every once in a while -- once again, because power doesn't mean jack. It's obsolete the day you take it out of the box. The 360 may have its fair share of problems, but it does have some great games. There's plenty of other consoles from past generations that have been plagued with issues. It happens. Maybe not on such a broad scale as the 360's, but it's not a first. Regardless, I'm a gamer, first and foremost. I go where the games are. That said, I can also say that PS3 is shaping up to have some epic stuff. Even though I'm a 360 fan, I can admit this because I don't have to compensate for anything. It's video games. Remember that.

[FrozenFrag]

3.6 you deserve a medal seriously, at the top of n4g they should quote that

[rawg]

But the troll-on-troll action has died down recently. Maybe people are more comfortable with their individual choices or the trolls are quietly switching sides.

Or maybe it's because I don't browse the Open Zone any more.

[wageslave]

Your only sick when the article supports your fantasy worldview.

This article is crap (because it doesnt inclue the whole library) -- and, the PS3 is a lie.

[BeaArthur]

wageslave..."The PS3 is a lie"....great argument.

[HarryEtTubMan]

PS3 = LEAD sku from now on bots, just like the Sony CEO said.... get used to it hahahahahhahahahhahahah

YOU CAN DISAGREE BUT PS3 WILL BE THE LEAD SKU FOR THE MAJORITY of companys starting now including Midway, Lucasarts, Epic

GET OWNED BOTS BUHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Did anyone notice the PS3 outsold the TURDbox again last week EVEN IN THE UNITED STATES of America(my homeland)

HAHAHAHHAHHA Xbox 360 got nohing at GDC except a FAKE Goldeneye article and Gears of war 2 which everyone knew was coming, a ton of RROD articles and ....well nothing else buhahahahahhaahhahaha. Xbox 360 sales are TANKING why the PS3's get stronger every week.

BOTS THE MGS4 BUNDLE IS COMING. BUHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA HHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA H AHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Even though I have one(gamertag get shank d) I just love saying how big of a stinky TURD the Xbox 360 is BUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHHAA HAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHA

Halo Wars.... BUAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

I base saying almost ALL companys are going to the PS3 as the LEAD SKU from what a Sony CEO said days ago. Its true bots. The PS3 is worthy. Its winning everywhere. The 360 is already limping on its last leg with 250$ mainstream priced 360's and all Xbox 360 SKU's available ALL OVER my hometown of Tampa Florida.... one of the biggest in the U.S. and no one is buying the 360. I mean it should be seeling a lot more for the price it is and its games already being released. All the good Exclusives are Multiplatform or PS3 Exclusives except Gears 2 and Banjo 3 LMAO. Fable 2!!!! NO. YOU FAIL.

[rawd]

Someone needs to kidnap your H and A keys

[Laexerias]

Good one Rawd

[ScentlessApprentice7]

For Real.

[Surfman]

I am a PS3 fan but man... relax. Whatever which consoles is better, the differences are so small..

[BloodySinner]

Good thing you only have one bubble.

[sak500]

Would be hard to do since they seem stuck. Could this be cuz of watching animal pron?

[Bill Gates]

You're such a LIAR HarryEtTubMan. You said that "xbox 360 got nothing at GDC", and that's a lie.

The xbox 360 got 2 Red Rings of DEATH. So please Harryet, stop lying.......AAAHAHHHAAHHAHA

[power of Green]

You base that comment because of PS3 HDD installs, dedicated servers and preffernce for Dualshock?.

Burnout is a PS3 port the others were develpoed along side eachother still catering to the lowest denominator. LOL No one's ever talking about dedicated servers or HDD installs when talking about PS3 development issues. lol This post is off.

When folks talk about PS3 issues lets use Lost Planet as an example, folks are talking about the way it runs and looks not the fact Lost Planet PS3 is going to have dedicated servers with no lag on PSN. lol

PS3 is getting a free ticket with this one. lol DMC4 and COD4 360 version has better textures than the PS3 version. Don't dissagree I'll post links.

This post is pointing out things that have nothing to do with the Multi platform issue.

Button mapping? gives PS3 a win lol. lol

Just 4 games out of many

[heyheyhey]

oh noes- your version has an extra bush an 0.001 more frames per second

and get this guys- the textures are "slightly sharper"- how am i to progress through life without that divine "sharpness"

fact is, i have COD4 on PS3 and i love playing it and i think it looks incredible

and everyone agreed that the PS3 version is "slightly better"- not that i care- i want a good game, not a game that is "slightly better" than the version on another console- that isn't what i look for in games

that's why i dont care about this "360 versions are better" crap- because i really wouldn't know the difference if i wasn't looking for it

games are too fast-paced to be looking for "slightly sharper textures"

come on we're not playing "spot the difference" here- we're playing next-gen games

the ONLY game that has a noticeable difference is the orange box- didn't stop me playing it and loving though- a few FPS stutters don't stop me from enjoying a game

so you POG can carry on and fight you battle to prove that the 360 versions are "better", but you should understand that no-one cares

[Ali_The_Brit]

actualy burnout was one of the main tittles noted for working on both along side. the devs say so themselfs in there podcast

[rgduhart]

Great article...it seems like having the ps3 as the lead development console is really making a difference. At least with Burnout. Again, great article

[niall77]

they said it not me :O

Im surprized too.

[TitanUp]

nial that is surprising

[Milkman541]

Everyone with a brain knew that it wouldn't take long for PS3 games to be on par with the Xbox 360 games...Now it's just going to come down to the exclusives...

[2 cents]

Wow. Who would`ve thought that only 2 months in 2008 the ps3 will have a complete turnaround. Now the ps3 is the favoured console. Imagine 6 years from now.

[Guitarded]

I've not heard a single 3rd party dev say PS3 is favored for anything. In fact it's been just the opposite. It's more like they are forced once again to cater to Sony's arrogance and stupidity and forced to learn new programming techniques that are useless in the real world outside the Sony universe. I'm sure they don't favor having to spend more time and money to get the same result, but they have no choice because people bought the PS3 with a high price and virtually no games either on brand loyalty or whatever. So if they want to make money they are forced to cater to Sony stupidity.

[Kaz Hirai]

This whole time you thought you had the better ports! You naive, deluded
SWINE!!!
Prepare for a bad year, you Nazisoft loving HOGS!!

MWAH-HA-HA-HA!!!

[OmegaKulu]

OMG, a flaming pile of crap.
Really, these stuff are complete stupid, stop with these vs/comparison junk and play your freaking game.

[Lord Vader]

No doubt - these articles are worthless. I have both consoles & I actually opt'd for both DMC4 & COD4 on my 360 (5GB download + more friends on XBL for COD4). Assassin's I got for my PS3 & I dont care for Burnout...

But it's just personal preference for all of us, I spend more time on my 360 mostly b/c of the online service & more online friends + Gears (my favorite MP game by far). Both machines are great systems IMHO, that is, unless my 360 ever RROD's (JK)!!! It is nice to see the PS3 catching up with the 360 in the Multiplat arena though...

It's a shame that articles like this are even written considering most all of what the author writes is nothing more than his personal opinion.

[gamesR4fun]

vader have you tried Warhawk yet games an addiction here.
gears is fun tho the second one should blow it out of the water :D

[Lord Vader]

@ gamesR4fun

Absolutely. Love Warhawk dude, Resistance too, but I do like Gears better. It aint nothin' but one man's opinion, I like Gears better than COD4 MP & Halo MP & Warhawk MP & Resistance MP. I'm not saying it's better for all absolutely, it's just better for me.

Mostly, I do my single player games on my PS3. I just have way too many friends on XBL & they are all ravenous for MP/co-op type games (which is cool), & honestly, the whole friends list/chat thing is so much better on XBL than PSN, IMHO.

I think Sony will eventually make the friends list/chat thing more streamlined though, I sure hope so.

[gamesR4fun]

sweet if your loking for m8's on psn add me
psn id dferr

I've got a 360 too but no live and no gears :( but just about every good multiplayer on ps3.

[bolitas100]

Everyone knows that when a new console is launch the first games dont work the realy power of the console but in comparation with 360 launch the ps3 have with no doubts the bests results i have a ps3 and i never live a great experience like ps3 is offer me.thank you SONY to make my days better.

[PS3n360]

I want the best version of the game and will buy it for the system it works best on whether its ps3 or 360. I always lean a little to 360 for acheivements and an already established friends list, but going forward with games getting better and better on PS3 I might have to let that go. I would guess that the PS3 will be competing with the next xbox in a couple years. Just like the ps2 gave the 360 a run for its money.

[Snukadaman]

Most people complain that alot games drop....it takes more then 5-10 minutes too get a game....I agree that peer too peer sucks but it takes less then 3 minutes too get into a game and when it plays good you have team communication, lag free games and the occasional drop but thats only when your playing a host that is on the losing team.

[Roller]

I connect to a game in less than 20 seconds on my ps3 so I don't know where you got your numbers from.

[Superiorrior]

20 seconds? Max is 5 seconds to find a game.

[dfcm2003]

Hum, I click and join game, Is that 5 mins in xbot talk? Dude Cod 4 has no problems, Iv been playing it the day it came out. The only problem i have ever seen, was when Ward had server problems about a week or so after launch, since then, PERFECT............

[sak500]

@domretard

5 secs? That is not even when you connect to the lobby with no one around. Same B$ we hear from sony management and fanbois exaggerate the same way.

[InMyOpinion]

They handpicked the only 4 games that are identical on the PS3. Not the "cold hard truth" if you ask me. Turok and Lost Planet are recent multiplatform titles as well. How come they weren't compared? ;)

[skynidas]

Dont you think that it is because these games SUCK on both platforms?

[Dacapn]

They picked the most recent high profile multiplatform releases to do comparisons. There's no point comparing Turok cuz deciding which version is better is like a choice between a the clap and genital herpes. I could personally live without either.

You can compare Lost Planet all you want, but anyone who's trying to decide whether to get Lost Planet on the PS3 or 360 in 2008 is gonna end up getting COD4 anyway haha.

[Kleptic]

didn't catch that Jenzo?...he picked the 4 biggest recent multiplatform titles...the 4 with the best review scores overall...and the 4 that people actually purchased...

its been touched on for the past 6 months...if the game sucks...its most likely better on the 360...if it is anything worthwhile...they are identical, or possibly marginally better on the PS3...

happened with Oblivion...Vegas 1 (ugly and it stuttered on both systems, but neither system trashes the other with that game)...The Darkness...Dirt(although that game sucked imo)...and the games mentioned in this article...the AC thing is the most retarded one of all though...some sites say the 360 is way better...some say the PS3 version is way better (didn't gamespot say the PS3 had 'much more dynamic lighting')

the 360 gets better versions of games like Turok and Denied Ops...congratulations...

the only outlier so far is Lost Planet, which was said to be decent by many...It is suprising that the port sucks so much, but it didn't seem like any PS3 fans were interested anyway...Capcom is selling it for like $35 right?...cheap quick port...oh well...

in either case...it doesn't matter...there isn't really one multiplatform game that really looks to be pushing either system, except for CoD4 (and I guess paradise looks amazing as well)...but both systems have exclusive games that appear to really show off what the thing can do...so why argue about what multiplatform version is better?...its meaningless...

[InMyOpinion]

Sorry. I missed the "By picking apart four recent, triple-A multi-platform games"-part the first time I read it. I was just questioning the credibility of their article.

[ATLRoAcH]

out of 4

[etownone]

why not list games where the difference is actually noticeable, like in recent games like Lost Planet, Conflict Denied Ops and then there are Orange Box, FEAR, Splinter Cell, Madden.... the list goes on and on.

Always HUGE differences in framerate and graphics. Someone should actually have a list of all multi-plat games to date and THEN compare so that we can see the COLD HARD TRUTH

but the again, the article was written as flame bait, and they got me responding to it..... oh well. Mission Accomplished GamePro.

[JoelR]

They state up front that it's not all multiplatformers but newer ones that are starting show that the PS3 and the X360 versions are very close:

"The common wisdom is that Xbox 360 versions are typically better than their PS3 counterparts, and this is true in part. The PlayStation 3 2006 launch lineup was choked with quickie ports that did little to tap into the system's power, and a few high-profile games (Madden 08, for one) were undeniably superior on the Xbox 360. But as you'll soon see, that trend is changing...and fast.

By picking apart four recent, triple-A multi-platform games--Assassin's Creed, Burnout Paradise, Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, and Devil May Cry 4--we're aiming to settle the contest over which console has the advantage in multi-platform releases moving forward. This is more than just gazing at screenshots--we're delving deep to discover the best controls, loading times, and online integration. "

They also make special mention of Black Site and Orange box as being examples of where this statement does not apply:

"Judging by what we've seen with these recent games, you may be better off picking up PlayStation 3 versions of high-profile multi-platform games for the time being. The notion that PlayStation 3 ports are inherently inferior to Xbox 360 simply doesn't hold water these days. Some games do perform worse on Sony's console--Blacksite: Area 51 has been plagued with performance issues, for instance, and The Orange Box suffers from groan-inducing load times and chugging framerates. "

[cmrbe]

they based their comparison on recently released high profile multi-plat games which i agree is not very conclusive.

[etownone]

not for nothing, but there should be a list that states the so called "COLD HARD TRUTH"

list should have ALL mulit-plat games released with the dates they were released, and the on which version it is superior.

Maybe we will see more games being superior on PS3,
but these 4 games do not define "recent" high profile games, because Orange Box was released around same time as AssCreed, and then there is the year old port Lost Planet, and recent ones like Turok and Conflict...etc, etc.

[Xi]

that find it odd they only selected 4 games, 2 of which were developed specifically for the ps3 first and 1 split?

cod4 was developed for both system independantly, but burnout, and dmc were both developed for the ps3 then ported to the 360. Where are the comparisons of sports games, and games developed for the 360 first?

bah... double standards.

also, he sort of glared over features that one has over another... like achievements.

[BrianC6234]

I don't. They're four of the most recent games. I bet you want to compare crap like Rainbow Six Vegas. The truth is third party developers are figuring out the PS3. The good developers are at least making the two versions the same. I think the 360 is holding back the PS3 versions but soon that might not be true anymore. For now at least there isn't much difference.

[JoelR]

he isn't argueing that there are no bad ports... He is just stating that a previously held belief is no longer accurate.

"The notion that PlayStation 3 ports are inherently inferior to Xbox 360 simply doesn't hold water these days."

[InMyOpinion]

That's what I was thinking. Just couldn't express it as good as you =)

[LightningPS3]

is that developers just weren't as experienced with it and sometimes even had to rush out the PS3 version to meet deadlines.

More and more as developers are getting better suited and have better tools, the PS3 development is just getting better.

Why is that so hard for XBOX 360 fans to understand?

[GodsHand]

Because they hear Jimmy, but they are not listing to Jimmy.

[SSCOOLCHEA]

""""The truth will set you free""""&q uot;""

[Death]

Hardly unbiased though. Reading through all the sctions for each game, the conclusion I drew was both consoles had excellent games with neither having an edge. I'm not sure how much I agree with his conclusions, but I won't say he was wrong. Much of what he compares comes down to a persons preferances. I have always been a fan of the Dual Shock,but I prefer using my 360 controller. It isn't because it is better, but because I am used to it since I have it in my hands more.

I also disagree on the online conclusions. Much depends on your connection speeds. I do not have any noticable issues with lag on my peer to peer 360 Live games or my "dedicated" PS3 online games. The biggest differance I see is in the way the online experience is implemented. Live is much better than PSN right now with connectivity with your friends and Achievements do make a game last longer and in many times more fun. The author of the artivle does not mention either of these facts for any of the 360 titles.

Bottom line is both systems have excellent games. A persons preferance is the biggest factor when choosing a system. This holds true for all games that came out this past year. The games that the 360 has that "crush" the PS3's offerings aren't crushing them to the point it is really worth dwelling on.

-Death

[DiabloRising]

Indeed. Sure, if you own both systems, I'm all for being able to know which one is better. But when people use it as flamebait, or attempts to get hits on their websites, or reasons to slam a system, its pathetic. I mean honestly now, do you really care that much if Dante on the PS3 has 1 more polygon in his hair than on the 360? OMG PS3 AM SO SUPEREOR! Please. People need to get back to worrying about enjoying their games I feel.... or at least worrying/discussing about things that matter, like EA's attempted monopoly and destruction of gaming as we know it.

[power of Green]

Devs really work the PS3 on Multi platform games when useing the PS3 as the lead making the best game they can and easily porting it to the 360.

Devs have to slow their role when the 360 is the lead to make sure PS3 can handle it.

The devs making ACE multi platform games are talented and they can do wonders with Multi plat games imagine if they were working on 360 exclusives.

A

[CaliGamer]

Interesting conclusion POG. Then by your logic, Halo 3 should have been the best looking game on the 360 since it was exclusive and Bungie had the full backing of MS. Not saying Halo was a bad or good game overall, but If we are talking about pushing the system or looking the best then this games directly refutes your conclusion, I have even heard the most rabid 360 fans say that the graphics left a lot to be desired.

1st and second party games for the PS3 for the most part tend to consistently look rather great compared to 3rd party games on the system, as they should. Good examples of this are Uncharted, R&C, Heavenly Sword, games that though their overall execution can be argued depending on your taste, the fact that they were visually stunning cannot be refuted.

I fail to see your point about exclusivity making a difference, if anything exclusives look worst than 3rd party games on the 360. I mean think about it, Gears is held up as being the pinnacle of 360 graphical achievements yet it is a game developed by a 3rd party that also makes games for the PS3, that would be alarming to me seeing as how any technology used on Gears will surely find its way onto the PS3 in a subsequent EPIC game. Shouldn't Bungie have taken the role of setting the bar for the 360?

Your entitled to your opinion, it's just that the evidence thus far doesn't support what you stated.

[power of Green]

Why do you people even reply?, piece of mind?. Can't even see your replies.

[rogerm16]

it does show that things are changing even a little for the ps3 and im glad about that, but its still funny to see the 360 Fanboys get mad as usual...Get over it man its cool, i come here every day and im noticing that a couple fanboys stick out like a sore thumb and kinda make themselves look kinda bad.(etownone). I swear if it has anything to do with the ps3 ill see etownone in the gamerzone and power of green in the openzone and if ya dont believe me then check. you guys are kinda sad

[Surfman]

When the war will finish? Probably never.. Anyway more that the PS3 get experience, more the PS3 will get better (the developers).

[TitanUp]

ea sucks period they shouldn't even mention madden come on look at what the game developers did with cod4 devil may cry burnout rock band guitar hero

not to mention developers have been praising ps3 for standard hdd and blu ray

lucas arts say after force unleashed ps3 will be lead system just think its unfair of you etow to even mention any ea games for ps3 when most of their games suck on both systems. orange box not so bad everything else is same old thing that they bring out each year.

some developers still need more time with ps3 maybe insomniac tools can help them out

[rogerm16]

rawd's comment made my day

[Spydiggity]

So, i'm prepared for a lot of negative feedback for this even though i'm being honest. Sony made so much money and ran the industry for so long that now instead of putting up the numbers, they can just put up the bucks. They are buying reviews like this.
I was actually planning on buying a ps3 because it has a pretty nice lookin line up this year. But as far as games that come on both systems, i can honestly say, every game i've played on 360 and then played on a friend's ps3 has been better on the 360, and he agrees. first of these as assassin's creed. it is instantly noticeable that ones you start free running the frame rate goes down a lot on ps3. graphics and everything else are basically the same.

burnout looked an dplayed the same, and call of duty 4 isn't a powerful enough game to put either machine to the test. but i personally think cod 2 3 and 4 are all cheap gimmicky video games with nothing more to offer than a lot of noise and scenery that you have no impact on...but hey, that's just me.

but these reviews about one system being better than another are getting old. and some are obvious BS. even if everything they said was tru, how does that put ps3 on top? they basically said everything was a wash up until the conclusions.
oh, and as for controller...that's completely based on preference. i like the triggers, and obviously a lot of other people did because not only did sony steal the motion sensing from nintendo, but they stole the triggers from xbox. the playstation 4 will probably move the left joystick too.

my point here is that blu ray didn't win because it was superior quality, it's because sony paid newspapers and magazines and websites to say that it won before it did. then the consumer (who doesn't like to waste money on "dying" technology) bought blu ray instead of HD. Most people agreed HD was the better product but because sony played dirty, blu ray won. now, because that worked, they are doing the same thing with the playstation 3.

fan boys, if you like xbox only, play xbox only. and if you like ps only, then play that. the mutual titles are all going to be basically the same, so when you buy a ps or xbox, you are buying them for the exclusives and your preference in controller style. It's been like that every generation, and it's that way now. so don't pay attention to articles like this. form your own opinion based on your own experiences, not what some corrupt businesses say.

[tweaker]

Even if thats true, Microsoft does that as well but worse.

[MiniMii]

Xbots: "hahaha, 360 is better console. Just look at the multi platforms, every article on the web says that multi titles are better than PS3s"

Now: "WTF, they said PS3 wins, fk this shiat is soo old, dont listen to this. Its getting old and tiring. Fk, they liars."

Oh how the tables have turned...

PS3: best line up ever in 2008 with unmatchable exclusives.
Best hardware to back it up.
The superior next gen format to back it up.
Stable servers for superior online experience.
And now, even the PS3 is even winning on the multi platform titles.

Now what? And so it begins.

[InYourMom]

Better games

Multiplatform games are better on 360

Better online service

Nothing has changed. You think a GamePro article is going to change the truth??

Do you own both systems? If you don't then you are just a sheep being led by news articles.

[FirstknighT]

"...mainly because the game was originally a PlayStation 3 exclusive and we expected it to out-class its Xbox 360 sibling. Instead, they're identical."

Like I been saying all along, the 360 can easily handle ps3 graphics. So after reading this article the 360 equals or beats the ps3 in all 4 games in the graphics department. That's all I need to know! :)

[Howler9443]

Graphically, sure the 360 can do similar graphics to the PS3 quite well. I don't have an argument there. In fact in some cases the X360 graphics could be superior.

Where I do think the X360 will start to slow down is when future games start putting MORE on the screen. Remember its not just about graphical fidelity, its about getting that fidelity to numerous moving objects on the screen at the same time.

In my opinion, thats where the PS3 will really begin to shine. Simply because of how devs such as Insomniac, Naughty Dog and Guerilla have been able to use the Cell SPEs to pre-render data, thereby reducing the amount of work the GPU needs to do. If you scale that out to MANY objects, it could means that you could have a really high level of graphical fidelity on realtime rendering of objects. It also means that you could have SPEs handling particle effects as well.

Basically the Cell allows the devs to ease the burden on the GPU as well as, use them for other things. I just think you will see really gorgeous games for both systems, but perhaps the PS3 screen will have more going on and being able to keep up. It doesn't mean the X360 GPU is any less capable.

[Bizmal]

I simply will not buy anything for my 360 these days any way. It's always PC or Ps3 untill Xbox live is free.

[rogerm16]

but im still jealous of the 360 for Ninja Gaiden 2, hopefully my hurry ups and gets his 360 fix then ill play it there

[power of Green]

I Just don't understand what button mapping has to do with PS3 having trouble running games made with 360 in mind.

Alot of whats said in this post has nothing to do with the Multi plat issue. Its like saying COD4 should have broke even or scored higher due to the 360 controller being better for FPS's.

The issue never was about Dualshock prefference or dedicated servers it was about games running on par and other issues.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

I gamepro sticks to their typical gameplan. They will be stroking xbox 360 balls next month with this one is really better articles.

[TitanUp]

the media was completely against ps3 last year! everyone dissed sony for having blu ray.

but yeah your right people need to just play their own systems im not bashing 360 just trying to defend ps3 a bit dont really know why im doing it but do know that the media has turned around in the last 2 months.

been following ps3,360 since 2005 and i could say microsoft payed people last year to advertise games bring their reviews up but thats just bs ps3 is just gaining ground.

as for 360 ill get one sometime this year

[FirstknighT]

"i could say microsoft payed people last year to advertise games bring their reviews up but thats just bs ps3 is just gaining ground."

Paid reviews??? LMAO! This is still my favorite excuse the sony fanboys use. :D

[cmrbe]

according to this article Burnout loads faster on the PS3 than the x360.

[wow4u]

Playstation 3: Assassin's Creed (2007) 81
Xbox 360: Assassin's Creed (2007) 81

Playstation 3: Burnout Paradise (2008) 87
Xbox 360: Burnout Paradise (2008) 88

Playstation 3: Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (2007) 94
Xbox 360: Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (2007) 94

Xbox 360: Devil May Cry 4 (2008) 84
Playstation 3: Devil May Cry 4 (2008) 84

Hm. Seems that the industry disagrees with this assessment.

The Metacritic scores say she's wrong.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

More magazines review 360 games...

That's all there is to it.

That's the reason Burnout: Paradise got a higher score on the 360. Criterion said the PS3 version was the best.

[etownone]

your girlfriend lies, your best friend can lie, but numbers dont lie.

[George Washington]

this article is complete bs. how the hell does cod4 which is a FPS win on ps3!? even sony fanboys admit 360 is made for fps games. i cant believe these duchebags would say cod4 is better on ps3. all ive heard is it breaks 40 gig ps3s and the online wasnt even playable until a patch that came out 2 weeks ago.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

You haven't played it, have you?

I played COD4 on my PS3 from the day it came out until about a month ago. There was barely any LAG...which makes me sad there was ANY LAG...because there isn't on RFOM and many other PS3 titles. Trust me, it was very much playable and it looked better on the PS3...ask Infinity Ward.

Don't listen to your local Gamestop fanboy...

[iHEARTboobs]

Mr. Washington, you sir, are an idiot.

[rogerm16]

i think till around mid 2009 when some of the other exclusives come out, but it dont really matter the 360 still is a fun system to play on, Test Drive Unlimited is awesome

[jinn]

the 360 is all about the games

[cmrbe]

about hardware reliability.

[cmrbe]

that PS3 versions of high profile games are getting better. Its expected with devs getting use to PS3 development as well as the knowledge that PS3 is set to with this gen.

[wow4u]

"as the knowledge that PS3 is set to with this gen."

Not. Going. To. Happen.

[Jack Bauer]

seemed very biased... every clincher was a matter of opinion, and everytime was swayed to the ps3 version for some reason... maybe gamepro PS bias, i noticed that a while ago, i want fair and balanced, not bias.

also all of those PS3 winners were lead or co-lead on the PS3 version...

and idk bout a 22 minute install and 5 gb of space, winning out with slight better control, over slightly longer load times. (i own the game on 360, the load times are next to nothing as it is)

[trancefreak]

The ps3 has been to hell and back and hes ready to woop some azzz in 08.

[Spydiggity]

dumb

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Common knowledge?

What?

How stupid do you have to be to think the 360 is more powerful than the PS3? This isn't flamming...it's just blatent truth.

[littletad]

More powerful on paper or actuality? Don't worry I'm "just" asking for blatant truth. :)

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

It's not an excuse. Somebody was scared.

R&CF:TofD a 7.5??? I don't think so...

[makingdamage]

If dedicated servers is the best, how come ms has peer-to-peer and sony dedicated servers? How come you pay for something that´s worse then something that´s free?

[Howler9443]

Oh, thats an easy one to answer. Since when has MS ever used, "The Best"? They make and use Windows (Most definitely NOT the best)...that should tell you something. ;-P

[iHEARTboobs]

This really has nothing to do with the actual PS3 or XBOX 360 IMO. Why? Because, if some games are practically identical and others aren't, where in lies the problem with those that aren't? With the developers right? Well that's what i think. Someone said that you can't have a non-heated discussion about gaming just like you can't with religion and politics. Nobody wants religion and politics to be compared to gaming right? Spare me all the B$ please!

Thank you.

[darthv72]

It only goes to show the dedication of the programmers to find the common ground for creating a great multiplatform game. Sloppy ports come from devs who dont want to take any time in optimizing code from one platform to another.

A few things came to mind in reading this and i am looking for clarification. The 360 has a unified shader system and a unified memory system. It also helps that more of the system memory is available with the lower resource requiring OS as opposed to the ps3. So if the 360 is the lead platform and it is taken into design to use the unified memory systems, it is likely that due to the lack of such effeciency on the ps3 that the port would come out sloppy.

So by making the ps3 lead it only goes to show the 360 could stand to run in "ps3" mode with regards to how the memory and shaders would be divided up. That would ultimately lead to both platforms getting virtually the same version of the game.

360 lead = crappy ps3 port
ps3 lead = virtually identical 360 port

Differences in control scheme and online seem to really be the deciding factor. The "feel" of the controls is more opinionated than anything else. Just depends on how quickly you can adapt to the obvious physical differences to the controllers. Online...got a few questions about that.

Dedicated servers...?? are they dedicated by sony or by the developer of the game. Example: EA hosts their own burnout servers or does sony host them? MS doing peer to peer has advantages as well as disadvantages yet why havent they opted to allow some dedicated servers? What was all that work on live for during the halo 3 launch? Are there no dedicated servers for halo 3 from bungie or MS?

Is the peer to peer way of running online MS way of controlling the flow of things because to me it sounds like the opposite. I would think dedicated servers would yield MS more control of the action online.

Thoughts anyone?

[Howler9443]

I think that the unified memory model is a double-edged sword. Sure you can access a bit more memory and use it as main memory which can be a great boon, but at the same time you are taking away memory from the GPU and that could lead to rendering issues such as screen tearing and texture pop.

This also doesn't mean that discrete memory is definitely better either as you can have video memory go unused while your main system RAM is slam packed. Its really just a trade off and a balancing act.

[paracardium]

We already new ps3 is superior to the 360..If I thought 360 was worth the money I would've bought one but I don't think it's worth it.Only 360 fanboys argue this fact and the truth hurts em.. nobody likes to be proved wrong time and time again.

[wow4u]

No. You are imagining things.

[littletad]

Yes, because you give such conclusive evidence to support your ridiculous claim. Right.

[ceedubya9]

In order for developers to have ports on par with each other, they have to be developed on the PS3 first and not vice versa. However, last gen, PS2 ports to the Xbox actually turned out pretty well, and obviously the Xbox was technically the better console. I didn't see developers jumping to develop on the Xbox first then. But for some reason, just because Sony says its best, developers want to go PS3 first and port to 360. Whatever works I guess. You'd have to wonder if this would be the case if the PS3 wasn't doing well worldwide. But it is, and I guess overall, developers have a lot of faith in Sony and its console and want to make sure its games are good to go for that platform. Nothing wrong with that though, I guess. As long as nobody's getting gimped games I guess we all win.

[SKullDugger]

I think developers have gotten greedy and develope a game for one system and then try and port it over to the other one, when they should develope it for each system on its DEV. kits. 10yrs ago this was not a problem because there were so many exclusives and far less muitiplatform games. The best games out there are the ones that were done just for that console such as GOW,HALO3 and RFOM,Uncharted these games showcase how each console can perform.

[etownone]

there should be a list with ALL the multi-plat games with their release dates, and state on which console was it superior, as in check their metacritic score.

then we can have the "COLD HARD TRUTH"

[g4n]

Having owned a PS3 since launch, but not getting a 360 until last month, my “expectations” of the 360 were “at least ps3 quality”

Well, that’s NOT the case.
Simply put, the 360 runs, sounds, and acts EXACTLY like an overclocked PS2 with inadequate cooling. It’s loud, frame rate suffer GREATLY during intense graphic, and the overall feel is “PS2 quality”

“the cold hard truth” is the 360 is a glorified PS2. The PS2 developers are EXPERTS at this point. A lot of 360 developer are prior PS2 devs.

I don’t want to down any system, as I think the 360 is great for the 3 games I play (and they are NOT “dumb dumb FPS’s!) but the cold hard truth is, it’s a last gen system with the highest resolution of any of its last gen counterparts.

[etownone]

"I don’t want to down any system" but you just finished saying "the 360 is a glorified PS2"

c'mon sonyfan, you just couldn't be any more obvious.

You want the truth, go check out metacritic.com, and then go see who has the highest rated games to date, and how many more multi-plat games are superior on 360. Its makes you understand why the 360 games keep winning GOTY awards since launch

@ g4n talk about denial. excuses for 360 getting GOTY awards, attacking the intellingence of all americans (PS3 best and highest rated games is made by americans) and asking me if i went to college?
if you took the time you would see that the industry looks at metacritic.com because they make a combined average review score from various sources, not just in the U.S.

by the way? how was Orange Box? i'm assuming you were smart enough to buy one of the highest rated games of ALL TIME for your "glorified ps2" haha...

you sound very defensive in your choice of words, but the "COLD HARD TRUTH" is out there. goto metacritic.com

[g4n]

"You want the truth, go check out metacritic.com, and then go see who has the highest rated games to date, and how many more multi-plat games are superior on 360. Its makes you understand why the 360 games keep winning GOTY awards since launch"

those are US results... the avarage US IQ is well below avarage (sadly).

truth is, if almost "all" americans like something, chances are its the dumb choice (can i say president Bush? Clinton? etc...) PS: im american, but i can face "the cold hard truth"

did you even go to college? you'll learn this stuff there...

[Mattearl]

also sick of the media "fueling" this console war.

But knowing that the PS3 is starting to show more potential is like... is like.... is like a breath of fresh air! :)

I'm glad dev's are finally getting their head around PS3 development!

[Fux4Bux]

Yeah the PS3 version has been equal or better for all the best mmultiplat games, which are the only ones that matter anyways.

[Mc187]

I like eating pie as opposed to not eating pie.
There will be more on what kind of pie in my next post so everyone tune in.

[onyxbox]

i've got both 360 and PS3 and appart from Mass Effect everything I've bought in the last 6 months has been on PS3 and I'd agree with this article... i.e. games are pretty much the same between 360 and PS3 these days.

I personally buy for PS3 because the system is quiet and I like the pad.

[TheMART]

Too bad they're wrong in all conclusions. It should be the 360 everywhere, well maybe Burnout Paradise with a slight twist towards the PS3.

BUT the 360 has rumble right out of the box on all games. That alone should give all games the edge on the 360!

But COD4? Have they done the texture comparison? The 360 is sharper, plus the 360 controller is the perfect fit for FPS, the PS3 controller isn't.

Lets put it simple: rumble makes the game feel more real. Get shot in COD4 and feel it, any other game.

[robbo918]

They are wrong because they disagree with you? Interesting version of reality you exist in. Well they are wrong to you at least, I will give you that.

[Ariexv]

Wrong because they're Idiots, CoD4 and BP for Ps3 don't have dedicated servers they use Server/Client just like the 360.

[littletad]

What a damn flamebait article. The worst case is the control scheme. Regardless of what they say, it's an opinion. Dedicated servers and peer-to-peer differences are entirely different. Yet most of their claims of the ps3 winning is because of the control scheme. Ridiculous. I myself found DMC4 to play equally on both systems, as call of duty 4. however you might find the controls different to your liking. That doesn't mean one version is better than the other. God, is Gamepro in need of selling subscriptions and getting everyone's attention with this junk?

Update: oh wow I forgot about rumble.

[Spike47]

controls feels comfterable>vibration.

you're gonna say games on the xbox360 are better just because of rumble?

That's just lame.

Yes, read the article again, they clearly state how the xbox360 controller is built for FPS.

I guess your post will be outdated when metal gear solid 4 comes out with dualshock 3.

and dualshock 3 has better rumble.

[Spike47]

a fellow gamer stated earlier,

RELIABILITY.

[PSWe60]

X-Butts got PWND!!!

[InYourMom]

the complete sheep of the industry..

[PSWe60]

LOL!!!!!!
You're just as guilty x-butt, tell me, were you able to get all of Bill Gate's pubes out of your teeth?

[GETPWNED]

LLLLMMMFFFAAOOO what a joke of an article. They say 360 is better in just about every area for each game, then they go out and say PS3 wins? lol. What kind of braindead droids do they have working over at GamePro anyway? loloololol

[InYourMom]

I have both systems and these crotchlicks can talk to their blu in the face and I know the truth. The PS3 struggles.. STRUGGLES! with far too many games. This cold, hard truth is cold hard bullsh!t.

I just feel bad for anyone who reads this stuff and get's duped into thinking the PS3 is some huge leap over the 360 only to get it and find out it is definately NOT.

[SKullDugger]

@OnslaughtX I agree the bigger EA gets the worse their games get. Competion is good it brings gamers better products.

[sleepbox]

bu bu but what about teh cell?

[Rageanitus]

I am a ps3 fan (not fanboy or troll) and I much prefer the ps3 over the xbox due to 1) reliablity 2) BETTER all in one entertainment unit 3)More exclusive title games on the system and that are coming out that cater to a wider target audience (lots of great games from varios genres).

But the sad truth is multiplatform games on the xbox REALLY do tend to look better than the ps3. You can blame the developers to a certain point... but multiplatform games on the xbox do look a tad more vibrant. Im suspecting its a hardware gpu limitation of some sort. But when it comes to exclusive titles the side has to go to Sony.... most likely its managment telling studios are acquiring studios that cater to a wider target market.

But if you look at a gameplay mechanics and playablity they are essentially the same... thats why its called ports... It comes down the controller preference ....

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

You said you're a PS3 fan but not a fanboy, lol they're the same thing. I think you mean you're a Sony-Fanboy but not arrogant I made a blog about this.

HTML: http://www.gamespot.com/use...

I honestly think the PlayStation 3 can have better graphics due to the Cell's real-time ray-tracing. Just when people make it go multiplatform they have to level the playing field. So they might do more work than the other by mistake.

[eagle21]

All day, everyday...

[Princess_Pilfer]

im just glad that the ps3 has caught up as i had every intention of buying because square is still exclusive at this point $600 is kinda steep for like 4 games

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

You do know that you have to pay more with the XBOx 360 than the PlayStation 3. Plus the best of the XBOX 360 like Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, Assassin's Creed, Brounout Paradice, Rainbow Six Vegas, etc. is all on the PlayStation 3 or PC. You don't even have to pay for the online.

[The Closing]

$600? You're way behind the times man. They dropped the ps3 down to $500 for the 80gb, and $400 for the 40gb months ago.

[chaosatom333]

it goes from xbox pro to ps3 pro. anyways, i am here to say that ps3 online integration is getting better and with home, there is going to further improvements. i am proud that sony learned their mistake from ps2, which had almost a non-existence internet connection and now sony just needs to achievements .

[sonyfanonly]

LOOK AT GAMES LIKE MGS 4 KILLZONE 2 FINAL FANATSY 13 AND 8 DAYS AND THEN TELL ME THAT

[Genuine]

For a pro gaming media site, Gamepro must let just anyone write for them. Anyway, COD4 wasn't a port on any system. It was built from the ground up for PC, 360, and ps3 using separate teams with the same game assets.
I also think dedicated servers are a double-edged sword. The reason being, it puts a shelf life on the online capabilities of a game. What happens to your favorite game if a publisher goes under, or if they decide to divert their server space to a newer more popular game. Atleast with peer to peer, as long as Live exists you can play anygame, anytime online.

[Rhezin]

you ps3 fans are sooo damn arrogant, and when you don't want to hear the truth you just won't allow it by shutting up the people up who DO speak the truth like gamepro. YOUR ALL SOO DAMN PATHETIC IT MAKES ME LAUGH.

[Ariexv]

Amazed no1 has pointed this out yet.... look @ why CoD4 and BP win for the Ps3 according to Gamepro the Ps3 version has dedicated servers.....except in reality they don't have dedicated servers =\ could you look like bigger retards Gamepro?

[jmiscavish]

It would make sense if the whole thing wasn't just subjective. The controllers are pretty much the same (save the stick placement), so I don't see what the big deal is.

This article misses one major point thought (which I'm sure has been brought up already...): achievements. I buy multi-platform games for my 360 because of achievements. Online is virtually the same (except free on the ps3), the graphics look GREAT on both systems, neither controller bothers me, so I just like getting achievements. Hopefully, soon, that won't be a problem.

[Ariexv]

Reasoning for CoD4 and BP winning on the Ps3 was dedicated servers...... that the Ps3 doesn't have for those games.

[Gamingshouldbefun]

I notice how people started ignoring 'xbots who try to put their bs on the table' and just enjoying how great their system is!!

yea ps3 is an awesome system the blog was about right though I prefer having 1-2 sec loading times which happen a lot than 3-5 on xbox so dmc4 is better on ps3 in all views.

EAT IT UP XBOTS!!

[Dannagar]

This article is based on subjective opinions.

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

lol, every opinion is subjective that's why they call it an opinion.

[Aquanox]

I honestly don't know what kind of objectivity policies this publication has, but there's certainly something really wrong with them.

Remember this article?

http://www.joystiq.com/2007...

They've been trying very hard to try to make the PS3 look superior to the Xbox 360 for a while now. Ignoring the Games of the Year "Bioshck" and "Mass Effect" that comprison made in 2007 and now chosing the only PS3 to Xbox 360 ports to try to prove their point (where the difference is almost unexistant) except fort he only parallel development (Assassin's Creed) in which the Xbox 360 version is more than noticeably superior.

Conviniently enough, they've chosen to ignore big games like "The Orange box", "Lost Planet" and many others where the Xbox 360 version proved to be superior. Let alone not mentioning the recently (supossedly) canceled "Dark Sector" due to the inferior performance the PS3 version had.

Last but not least, considering an advantage a 5GB install in exchange of slightly better loading times than a "Plug and Play" game in the Xbox 360 is simply absurd. Games do NOT install on Xbox 360 because they don't need to. They do on PS3 because developers find it as an easier way to get over the slow 2x blu-ray speed (must be cost saving compared to the Bethesda's data duplication process) Try to consider that an advantage a year from now when this becomes a standard for PS3 and gamers start getting tired of uninstalling games just to perform a horrid 20-25min installation to be able to play a new game (It's not even optional) in similar conditions to their Xbox 360 counterparts... only eating 5GB of their precious, small hard drives. God help them if they want their oldies back!

Come on Gamepro, try to save some of your reputation... if it's not too late already. Just check their article title, sounds like a fanboy post in a fanboy forums.

[GETPWNED]

OUCH.

[Sez]

you are right. i never understood how installing 5 gig for 20 plus mins just to only get 1 or 2 seconds faster load time is better than putting a game in and playing. it's not.i wait long enught just waiting for the game to be released. now i have to wait longer to play it to.get the f@ck out of here. and the controller excuse is weak. 80% of multi-plat look and play better on the 360. even if the ps3 is the lead console look at VF5 better on the 360. gamepro has again shown that it's the seconded biggest sony fanboy site on the net.(not to be out done by this site) the sixis controller feel to light and the motion controlls feel as though they should have been left out. there no custom soundtrack. so you are force to listen to the garbage music on some games. i could go on about why the 360 version of games are better.but talking to some fanboy on this site is useless.

[JeepGamer]

Unless the programmers are lazy or incompetent the only differences between a 360 and the PS3 version of a game are going to be so minor that 99% of people won't notice or even care. Unless there's some glaring difference between the two versions, they're the same game.

It's like you've got two sports cars to pick from and you're concerned about extremely minor cosmetic differences between them... While everyone else is just glad to have a cool car.

[ReBurn]

At this stage of the game the 360 and PS3 appear to be pretty evenly matched. I'm pretty impressed all around.

[Morgue]

I'm not going to sift through 107 comments but the same could be said for a game made on the PS3 and ported to the 360...maybe? I played Lost Planet for the 360, beat it and it was garbage. Why would I waste my money and HD space for it on the PS3? When I buy a game for a console, I don't want too buy a port. I want a game that is going to EXPLOIT that systems potential and right now I think that Sony has a chance but at the same time they can't keep saying Blu-Ray or Cell this. It comes down too developers and what Sony can do to help these companies come along, make a great product and I hope we see this in the coming year.

Am I on the Fronline of A Fanboy war?

[wallace1000]

No one really cares. We buy the console and games we like and have a good time playing them. After all we are all the same, we are gamers!

[wowsauce]

Is he serious? Shoulder buttons? R1>triggers. R1>shoulder button.

WTF? please tell me I'm not the only one that thought that was a rediculous reason.

[heavyarms]

I have played cod4, and devil may and in my opinion the 360 is much better. They both play the same but the fact that i can invite my friends from in game, voice chat with friends ingame, play my own playlist music from media player everything while i'm in game i can do on the xbox that the paystation 3 does not do gives the edge to the xbox360. This article left so much else that they didnt talk about when it comes to online play. They constantly said the xbox has better controls, looks better but we give the edge to the ps3, oh really. Fanboy i guess.

[Big Jim]

What he forgot to point out was that COD4 looked much better on the 360 than on the PS3. The 360 had much better textures and anti-aliasing. Not a big deal, but there is a difference in the 360's favor. (I'm not a 360 fanboy, I own both consoles and both consoles are great, I'm just saying.....)

[funkysolo]

PSN IS FREEE!!!!!!!I think 360 fans are not mad that PS3 won but that king of online COD4 is better on PS3 and PSN is free and they have to pay $55 a year to.

[JokerSGS]

As much as I don't want to be a fanboy it's nice to see how a year later how things have changed for us PS3 owners and fans. Finally all of our expectations have come true and there appears to be even more improvements and enhancements coming down the road. Just a superior console delivering well for the well respected Playstation brand.

[Enigma_2099]

... and this doesn't help their case.... anal retentive, much?

[Citizen Cook]

You just got OWNED PS3 FANBOYS!!!!

HA HA HA HA!

[stennexxx]

COD4 ROCKS! on the PS3. I am not even using the Dualshock 3 either. April is going to be great.

[caffman]

but it FREAKING ROCKS on the 360!!!!

[Robearboy]

There are plenty of other sites that say the exact opposite, it all depends on that one persons preference.

[silenius]

but the thing is that Developers didnt know and had lack of experience of PS3 system back then...
For sure it wasn't fair to be compered to the 360...

but i guess there will no problem in the future ports

[Shankle]

My god just look at the comments on that article.... That website is teeming with 12 year old fanboys! Christ almighty it's hideous!

[Rabid Hamster]

I find it interesting that all these comparisons between games never seem to take into consideration that the PS3 hasn't been out there as long as the 360.
It's not that surprising that the 360 is better in some areas as developers have had far more time to get used to the style of programming required to achieve better results. In addition it is built to be similar to PC structure for which developers have been programming for even longer.
What i find surprising is that the PS3 is comparable to the 360 at this early stage with a new programming requirement & development strategy required.
However i believe that the 360 could benefit from the PS3 becoming a lead platform as the multi core processing of the 360 could become more heavily used further opening up it's potential. Currently developers are using their old linear programming methods with minor tweaks. True parallel processing will benefit both consoles, but is truly required for efficient PS3 programming.

[Jeebs]

Nothin to see here, move along!

[Robearboy]

The ps3 was hyped up to be some kind of Superbeast console, you all know that drill, 120 fps yada yada yada, yet here we are a couple of years down the line and everyone are flaming about which console has the better port, madness just pure madness

[leon76]

I told this before in a comment I made yesterday, and I mention the same games that were analysed here:
COD4 better in PS3
DMC4 better in PS3
Burnout Better in PS3
This only confirm what I said: THE BEST GAMES OF THE ACTUALITY PLAY BETTER IN THE PS3!!!.... but xbots only see the games like lost planet and conflict denied ops......who cares about this sh*tty games!!!!.....if they like them so much, go buy and STFU!!!!...

[caffman]

not mine or quite a few other people. Win because they prefer the dualshock? I nearly p!ssed myself!

[Ariexv]

Reason they said the Ps3 wins for CoD4 and BP is a lie..... the Ps3 doesn't use dedicated servers for those games they use Server/Client just like the 360.

[JasonX43]

I can hear the super fanboys already! Arguing over things as silly as framerates and loading times as if the balance of the universe depends on it! Me, I'll just enjoy Devil May Cry 4 on my PS3, while waiting for Ninja Gaiden 2 for my Elite 360 because that's what GAMERS do!

[ROCCOZILLA]

its ok your 360 has a good 6 months left in it,lol.PLAY B3YOND!!

[DFresh]

Sony will just keep growing while the 360 keeps falling.
All these games look better off of the PS3 in my opinion.
Most reviewers don't know how to set their settings right for display and audio w/ HDMI Cable.
No more 360 ports starting 2008 plus Sony developed a better engine that's a lot easier for developers to make games now so this little problem is officially over.
From an exclusives stand point PS3 kills everyone in graphics.
ex.)
Killzone 2
Resistance 2
Eight Days
GT5
DMC4
Soul Calibur 4
etc.
I'll admit multi platform games need work but exclusives are really what sells.

[she00win99]

to all xbots, it's really hard when your favorite console lost for the first time isn't it, don't worry their will be more bad news to come...

[Ariexv]

to Break up your celebration but whoever wrote the article is an idiot.... Cod4/BP do not have dedicated servers on the Ps3.... which is the sole reason for them winning over the 360

[sleepbox]

This article is retarded. They pick and choose here in PS3s favor when if they were to count every single multiplat, 360 would be the clear winner. No contest

[Silellak]

It was obvious this article was a load of crap simply because their reasons for choosing one version of a game over another - "the controller is better" or "the online is better" simply aren't PROVABLE quantities. The first one is entirely a matter of opinion, and the second one is based on personal experience and (apparently) flat-out misinformation.

But then, I can see where Gamepro is coming from. "THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH EQUAL YOU STUPID FANBOYS" just doesn't generate many hits, I guess. There had to be a "clear winner".

[jmiscavish]

The games where there actually IS a noticeable difference weren't even taken into consideration. The author even says there's a big difference between the Madden 08 and the Orange Box versions. I'm sure some games run a lot better on ps3, too.

The more I think about it, the more rubbish this article is.

[trancefreak]

This is the year your ps3 gets born again. 2008 THE REBIRH

[Martini]

I will take Eurogamer word any day over Gamepro....

Gamepro - Load times: Extensive optimization by the Infinity Ward team leaves the loading times virtually identical between the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 versions.
http://www.gamepro.com/micr...

Eurogamer - Of slightly more consequence is that the loading times on the PS3 game are noticeably longer: anything from 10 to 15 seconds longer compared to the same data being streamed in on Xbox 360.
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

[poopface1]

but loading a multiplayer map on 360 COD4 takes like 2-3 sec. if that is too long im not sure what to think.

[TheMART]

Haha great so this article is made of quicksand!

COD4 & BP on PS3 have no dedicated servers either. hahaha

And this guy hits the nail on the head:

"you are right. i never understood how installing 5 gig for 20 plus mins just to only get 1 or 2 seconds faster load time is better than putting a game in and playing. it's not.i wait long enught just waiting for the game to be released. now i have to wait longer to play it to.get the f@ck out of here. and the controller excuse is weak. 80% of multi-plat look and play better on the 360. even if the ps3 is the lead console look at VF5 better on the 360. gamepro has again shown that it's the seconded biggest sony fanboy site on the net.(not to be out done by this site) the sixis controller feel to light and the motion controlls feel as though they should have been left out. there no custom soundtrack. so you are force to listen to the garbage music on some games. i could go on about why the 360 version of games are better.but talking to some fanboy on this site is useless."

In short:

PS3 to 360 ports look equal
360 to PS3 ports suck

BluRay drive on the PS3 is freakingggg slow nasty installs of 22 minutes and 5GB are getting normal. The 360 is just put in and play

The PS3 controller is too light, exactly. Played with it, it feels like a cheap fake toy. Lets hope Dual Shock 3 puts some more weight in so it feels better

No custom soundtracs on the PS3??? You have to be kidding me...