Killzone 2 DEV responds on provocation in boardsus.playstation.com forum

In very popular topic "Ask the Dev thread" in Killzone 2 section at boardsus.playstation.com fourm, dev known as Killzone EON(he answeres on all questions)responded in "angry" fashion after one forum member provoked him.Check out the link for reason and complete and probably longest comment EON has posted there. Part of EON comment:

"Honestly. I've started writing this reply three times, switching from angry flaming of the kind of mentality that draws people to wasting their lives making posts like the above, through into a factual listing of the many inaccuracies in your post (almost every word is, in fact, objectively incorrect). I've no idea what makes gamers turn so frigging nasty when Devs don't cater to their every whim and I'm not going to start guessing now - if you want to go be excited about Eight Days then be my guest. You're not commiting apostacy, nobody's going to want to tear you to pieces for it. You're really not going to hurt my feelings."

[Marceles]

"Honestly. I've started writing this reply three times, switching from angry flaming of the kind of mentality that draws people to wasting their lives making posts like the above, through into a factual listing of the many inaccuracies in your post (almost every word is, in fact, objectively incorrect). I've no idea what makes gamers turn so frigging nasty when Devs don't cater to their every whim and I'm not going to start guessing now - if you want to go be excited about Eight Days then be my guest. You're not commiting apostacy, nobody's going to want to tear you to pieces for it. You're really not going to hurt my feelings.

But really - how you can turn 'looks better than any other PS3 game in development (even Killzone 2!)' into Killzone 2 being a failure beggars belief. Is there only allowed to be one good game at once? When it is news that a game looks better than Killzone 2, I'd say that suggests that Killzone 2 looks pretty damn good.

The E3 2005 trailer was NOT false. One confused Sony rep claimed it was a movie from the game engine - one guy blizted out of his mind on fatigue, jetlag and the madness that is E3. One guy not at all affiliated with Guerrilla Games - probably with a head full of 30 different titles. Everyone else named the E3 2005 video for what it was - a target render of what we thought would be possible on the PS3. Something we would be aiming for.

Then, during E3 2007, in front of the majority of the gaming journalist press we released a trailer of Pre-Alpha code running and demonstrated a PLAYABLE Killzone 2 that stunned the industry. If you know me at all from watching me answer questions you know that I'm not prone to hyperbole in the slightest. The quotes coming from those sessions included 'jaw dropping', 'amazing', 'stunning' and 'a complete vindication'. Notwithstanding that, you decide that the E3 2007 sessions failed - a completely reversed opinion from just about everyone who saw it running or played it. What you say 'everybody' knows is something that almost nobody believes.

The truth is that NOBODY is releasing the definitive game of the PS3 only 3 years into it's lifespan. And no sane person would even try to release 'the definitive game' - because who knows what will make the definitive game definitive? The only shame here are whatever feelings made you decide to come in and post things that even you must know are untrue, simply in an attempt to score points and / or upset people."

Very good quote I'd say...forum gamers seriously need to stop making asses out of themselves, you can see that he took it a little personal even though he said he doesn't care, but that guy posting was totally trying to get a rise out of the developer. We'll see the truth when it finally comes out, but as of E3 2007, if the game looks that good at pre-alpha then there's a very good chance it'll be identical to the trailer in 2005

[fenderputty]

in there about 3 years into a consoles life cycle? Does that mean we ain't seeing this until 09'?

[jwatt]

No, he is just saying you won't see games taking advantage of the ps3 untill 3 years down the road.

[rbanke]

I think he may mean dev time, 2008 marks the 3rd development year for the ps3.

[fenderputty]

I'm just hoping that wasn't some sort of Freudian Slip. Lord knows I want this game ASAP.

[sonarus]

seriously speaking i find it very difficult to feel pity for guerrilla games no matter how much flak they take. Thats what happens when you show a game to early. I can understand the tremendous pressure from sony to show the game but if you show a game playable and almost a yr later you are still dodging the release dates gamers will get wary. The ps3 is powerful from a graphics stand point KZ2 is amazing but whats the hold up. Release the fvkin thing already or at least give us the beta.

[fenderputty]

I feel you sonarus. They showed a playable level almost a year ago and have not givin us one update since then. To further that, they only showed us that much to combat the ES 2005 debacle. With that type of marketing and hype building of the game, it's only natural that people speculate it's arrival and it's success.

Personally though, I don't doubt this game. Take what you saw last year and add another year of Dev time to it. I think this game is going to be a monster.

[solidt12]

I think the developer handled that pretty good. Killzone 2 will be a great game and I get tired of people jumping on the bandwagon for every great looking game that comes out and then talk bad about the ones previously announced. It is possible to have more than one great game in the same year you know.

[fusionboxer]

I personally have a lot of faith in Guerilla Games and have confidence in killzone 2 more so then any other game coming out for the ps3.

One reason why is because they were able to improve a whole lot from killzone 1 to killzone liberation. They went from having a relatively unpolished title with pop in and lack of a solid online infrastructure to a psp continuation that addressed every problem that fans of the original had.

For example they added a solid tested online with great maps, free DLC in the form of a brand new chapter, co op campaign mode, better checkpoints, interesting guns, drive able vehicles, squad commands, improved AI that reacts to their surroundings to flank you and just a lot more polish (it ran super smooth). If they could do all that with the psp then i say give Guerilla all the time they need to put out a great product on the ps3.

PS: I personally loved killzone1 because of the characters, dialogue, guns, atmosphere and story, but I don't deny the problems it had. Then again it remains to be one of my fondest memories on the playstation 2 and killzone liberation remains to be one of the best games on the psp.

[Lifendz]

I like that he responded. It shows these guys are really surfing the forums and reading our comments. The fact that he responded without coming across like a jerk shows character. Good stuff. I wish they had said this immediately following E3 in 05.

[Brian5247]

I think gamers have this false idea that developers are just mindless robots who are there simply for there own entertainment. Before you judge this guy, look at the ridiculous post that he's referring to. He actually claimed that 'Eight Days', a game in which no footage has yet been shown, is now better than Killzone 2. Read:

Well...I think Killzone lost the battle for best PS3 upcoming game. "Eight Days" won!

http://www.ps3informer.com/...
better-than-killzone-2-will-b e-awesome-008730.php

And it's funny to say that there's no HYPE over Killzone 2. Since the FALSE E3 2005 trailer, there's a hype...and now, when everybody knows Killzone 2 WON'T get the level of E3 2005 trailer, so the devs say "THERE'S NO HYPE OVER KILLZONE 2, KILLZONE 2 WILL BE A GOOD GAME , AS MANY OTHERS". It's more comfortable to think like that and that is a way to answer the "failure" of the final product, (in comparison with E3 trailer, about being the defitinive game pf PS3).

Shame.

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This is why the dev said what he did. Can you blame him?

[Marceles]

And the screens for Eight Days later were just meh from what I saw...

[Iamback]

It wasnt my intention to blame him, i am actually on his side. That troll really asked for it and he owned him. I just thought it is well written comment with many great point that get overlooked.

[Marceles]

I agree...if it was just 2 normal forum members arguing then it's something different. Stuff gets posted from devs @ the Playstation Blog so I don't see the dev's post on the forum to be any different.

[VirusE]

The screen shots are not the best but there is some sick detail in that car. The rims look very nice and so does the sky. I still think killzone 2 looks better though.

[marinelife9]

Eon owned that guy with his reply.

I like how the PS3 development teams work together and share technology. That should cut down a lot on development time.

So many games so little time.

[Nathaniel_Drake]

Yeah I just read from that cowboy junkie poster, and his name fits his personality, but I have been on the playstation forums and you get these kinds of behavior from these people that just make a account just to harass other ps3 board users, just look at his count post, I mean you get this kind of people all the time there

It seems like Killzone offended his family or something

[Marceles]

Yeah I hate that...it's always the "Newbie" posters with 1-20 posts who do stuff like that

[Douchebaggery]

this is gonna get hot

[Violater]

They are both PS3 exclusive games.
One coming out after the other, it is only natural progression that it should look "better"
"better" being subjective as they are 2 diff. art styles.
Why people get hyped up over speculation and from such a source is beyond me.
But that did not stop this story from being approved did it.
Honestly I would rather have the MART back on N4G than 99% of the fanboys that have made the recent jump from Gamespot/Faqs

[robbo918]

"Why people get hyped up over speculation and from such a source is beyond me"

In source you mean the developer? Seriously I just am not sure what you are meaning on that one, are you talking about the first kid or the developer's reply because to me the developer of a game is pretty reliable.

"Honestly I would rather have the MART back on N4G than 99% of the fanboys that have made the recent jump from Gamespot/Faqs"

The Mart is still here, trust me, otherwise a national holiday would be declared or something. <SARCASM ALERT> Gotta love the Mart <SARCASM END>

[VirusE]

I am impressed; i think he handled himself very well. I would have been pissed and tearing beating hearts out if i was him.

[alan001]

looks like killzone 2 will be released in 2009 then?, "The truth is that NOBODY is releasing the definitive game of the PS3 only 3 years into it's lifespan"

[Iamback]

He used it as an example, he tried to say that even if games in 2009-2010 might end up looking mind blowing it still wont be best from PS3. Just look at Gow2 and FF12 on PS2, oth came out in 6 or 7 th year of PS2.

[alan001]

ow ok cool, nice to know coz i cant wait that long for killzone 2 ehehh

[JoelR]

KZ2 was in development at least a year in advance of the Launch of the PS3 putting it squarely into three years + of development so far.

[Iamback]

Yes KZ2 has been to long in development. I understand that technology that is financed by Sony will also be used among other 1 party studio, so they can cut cost of development and earn some money back, but still it is really taking damn long. I hope they release it this year, but at the same time i hope they don't rush it.

[vloeistof]

time for a new killzone 2 trailer

[fenderputty]

A lot of talk around the net about RFOM2 and now 8 days being top notch. I think it's time we see something further along then "pre-alpha" so people can shut up. Well ... shutting people up is a postive but, I really just want to see more damnit.

[longduckdong]

new video will come at E3, not before.

[fenderputty]

we've been HOPING for a release date before E3, I hope the next footage shown would be before that. As of now, I do think that E3 plausible though. If RFOM2 and MGS4 are due out this summer, Sony wouldn't want all of their inhouse monster shooters competing with each other. If that's the case then, look for KZ2 to come out closer to xmas.

And I was hoping for KZ2 this spring .... /sad

[Fishy Fingers]

I love forum kids, they seem to think they are the worlds best developer/analyst/gamer of allllll time. When in reality, they're kids who can only play the games they can talk their parents into buying them.

[Iamback]

They are just trying to release some of that life frustration they have, no big deal ;)

[JoelR]

It's nice to see people actually respecting the DEV for his response.
I am glad he did rewrite three times - His reply shows his thoughtfulness without recourse to ripping the posters head off.
He did show the poster to be an idiot but in a clear and nonrantful manner.

[Iamback]

Yup, and he has to have self control no matter how much some kid might annoy him, or he could loose his fine job. Damn i wish i was on his place

[pwnsause]

EON just killzwned that kid lmao. I still believe that this game is going to be such an amazing game. I want them to put a call of duty 4 dramatic type of game, a chaotic one, just like COD4, but with its own style.

[Kleptic]

that is exactly how I thought of Killzone 2 after seeing the E3 07 trailer...MS showed CoD 4 at their keynote, the night before the Killzone 2 trailer was released to the public...and I remember thinking how good CoD 4 looked...but then Killzone 2 made it look like a warmup imo...it had all the perfect lighting and everything of CoD 4 (and then some), but had way more cinematic flare...Resistance 2 will be awesome as well, but the one I really want to see more of right now is Killzone 2...just release some more gameplay already...

[fopums]

bout time a dev slapped some dumbass on the internet with a verbal web beating, stupid fanboys(yes specificly PS3 fans attacking PS3 games in this case) who think becuase maybe they read a blog every once in a while know every detail about game development.

Jesus you show one of these baffons a glimpse at all the code running threw a game and their scrot's would blow off.

[Grahammad]

I'm very active in that forum, and I'm commenting here and now hopefully we'll make a thread there discussion people discussing this here! lol Why is this funny to me? Anyway, yea, as a very active member of the Killzone 2 boards I can assure all of you that he had that coming well in advance and I think E0N (the developer in question... or at least his screen name) did handle himself very well.

[Kain81]

Killzone 2 is an Awesome game, but i need some more Info about it.
iam excited about this game

[Maddens Raiders]

is going to kick ass. 1st day purchase for me, followed up by marathon gameplay.

[gEnKiE]

pwnd! lol.....that kid is an idiot. Best thing ive read in a long time. Cannot wait for Killzone 2!

[hiphopisdead]

I 100% agree with the killzone developer. but in addition to what he said, be careful how you react to this issue that the rude/stupid guy brought up.

dont start hating on eight days. the trailer they showed back in 2006 looked really promissing, and now that there is news that it has come a long way and is looking amazing! that is making me want to put this on my list of games to buy! i have been waiting for good ps3 exclusives (that show the ps3s ability)... and i know devs are taking their time to do the games justice. so this news of eight days should be good news to ALL PS3 owners. dont let this guy ruin what could have been amazing news! now in addition to GT5, FFXIII, KZ2, GOW3, MGS4, LBP, ... and more... now there is EIGHT DAYS! i really want to see this.

I'm not sure who this guy is that posted the rude and unintelligent comment about killzone 2 and eight days, but it seems like that post is for no other reason than to turn people against top exclusive sony invested ps3 games. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy is an 8 year old, an xbox fan boy, or someone over at microsoft that is being paid for posting these replies...

And just to conclude, Killzone 2 is the best looking game i've seen to date!... in gameplay... with pre-alpha code... it looks AMAZIIIING! nobody can argue that it will be THE BEST looking FPS on any CONSOLE!... arguably... it could be the best looking GAME PERIOD! i can't wait for this game!! Killzone 2 looks like it will be the game I put into my playstation 3 to show it off to people (that's considering by then, everyone I know will get a PS3 by the time MGS4 comes out)

[Marceles]

yeah, the provoking guy had a link to the Eight Days later screenshots and they didn't look so good, but I went to youtube and the game in motion is a really a site to behold. But I understand where the dev was coming from when he said "there can't be 2 good games coming out?", like if one game is better from opinion, the other is an absolute failure...and also that Eight Days trailer has been the only footage we have of the game while at least the Killzone guys gave us an alpha demo of how the game is shaping up...so the Eight Days guys still have to kinda give us another preview to make sure the game will be identical as well

[longduckdong]

They just only show little bit years ago and nobody knew anything about it until now.

[TheHater]

And another Idiot got owned by a Killzone 2 developer. Who is next?

[Ps3ShellShock]

E3 this year KZ2 will once again blow our minds to sh/t...EON comment was rite on.

and its try..if every game that comes out is being compared to KZ2 then guess what KZ2 must be great to be compared to. E3 2005 showed us what a FPS should act and look like...E3 2007 showed us that E3 2005 trailer is more then possible...E3 2008 will convert the ppl that havent already been converted as KZ2 will rank one of the best FPS to date

[undacovabrothe]

Does look fukn sick graphics/gameplay wise, but like the dev said if ppl are comparing the graphics to kz2 then kz2 must be pretty sik itself. Plus if games dont top games that are coming out now then all games would look the same. Im glad that devs are increasingly topping what is being put out. I dont think 8days is coming till 2009 if its this year may Sony have mercy on the oompetition and if a game comes out after it should be better I expect no less, but to try to downplay kz2 a game he has we have never seen in action yet is kind of foolish.

[poopsack]

why can't we have more than one great game at the time. Just cuz the 8 days new came out yesterday stating it looked better than kz2 this loser starts ripping on the dev. His actions reek of loser. I hope KZ2 is one kick ass game that revolutionizes the FPS genre tag teaming with R2. two great games by two great dev teams. Unsleepable Guerrilla FTW!

[Adriokor]

I am guessing there is a lot frustration going on at KZ2 developer as that poster provoking him wasn't that bad.

I think KZ2 is more of a technical development of technologies for other games rather than just simply "the best looking game", therefore it might be in development for a long ass time still.

[carl ps3]

99% of people on these sites are idiots!!! :-/
They talk a load of crap. They don't make games etc etc.
Really people, people think what they like and do what they like and no fool fanboys are going to spoil a game or a console!!!
EVERY 1! Get back 2 playing computer games!!! Stop wasting your time talking crap!!!
See i just wasted my time putting this on here!!! ;-D

[DTClown]

;)

[Doctor Strange]

Its comment like that guy who provoked Eon that I hope KZ2 just blows us all out the water.

To put in so much hard work and to see people not appreciate it he deserved every word Eon said.

Considering we saw a game in pre-alpha last year I think KZ2 will deliver. I'll take many great games over one anyday.

[meepmoopmeep]

for the retarded post, i think that kid deserved more ownage than what EON had wrote.
how the hell can someone who has not seen either game in its final product come up with a winner/loser scenerio? what a retard. 2008 will not have ONE super game.. it will have MANY

[misterssippi]

I think he is pissed because Sony isnt realy on KZ2 like they once were. Sony was pushing it as the killer app, but in a short span of time they have moved on to showing more MGS4, RFOM2, 8Days. I can see him being frustrated and then having to defend his work when some fanboy tries to crap on it.

[fenderputty]

I just think the whole thing is supposed to blow people away. If your going for shock and awe, then they're going at it right. People freaked after E3 2005. Then they got let down only to be broght back up after E3 2007. Now ... here we are yet again, knowing this time that KZ2 was a monster in it's early build. We wait in anticpation of it's awesomeness. We hunger for it. Sony's letting this whole thing just brew. They're waiting for that moment to release the thing and wow us all.

I just wish they would wow us sooner then later.

[MiniMii]

And how is this even news.

The guy is entitled to his opinion. What, you dont think he was allowed to pwn some sick xbot troll?

[HarryEtTubMan]

Killzone 2 is gonna be so good

[Ri0tSquad]

That kid got what he was asking for. Good for him.

[Ri0tSquad]

was anything Eon said not true?

[xg-ei8ht]

Not sure why the dev vented his anger.

But lets be honest, all i hear in forums, is release the game already, give me a beta, give me this, give me that.

Just STFU and you'll have it when its good and ready, just like epic states, when its ready, its ready.

You can bi^ch and moan all you want, but the title-s not going to come out an earlier.

Too many childish brats, with too much time on their hands. If an adult made that post, then that is some seriously sad person who really needs to get a life. Go out and get some fresh air.

Also wtf has eight days got to do with killzone 2, they are completely diff games. Graphically, They are both looking sweet. Gameplay wise, ppl have played killzone 2 and been impressed, from its early code.

So whatever game your waiting for, just stfu and wait for it.

[omodis420]

"Sony's letting this whole thing just brew. They're waiting for that moment to release the thing and wow us all."

I think he has it right. If you have a game like Killzone 2 with all the hype (possative and negative) YOU DON'T RUSH IT! You take your time and do the best job you can possibly do.

Do you think Microsoft wanted Bungie to rush out Halo 3?
Or what if Nintendo rushed Zelda and just put it out on Gamecube. (wasn't this in development for 3 years?)

Everyone should be happy that they are taking their time with it. You will be happy when you throw down 60 bucks for a quality title, instead of a rushed bugged out game.

Good Things Come To Those Who Wait!

[pwnsause]

LMAO, Gamesblow is getting famous, hes finally getting credit!!!! http://www.ps3fanboy.com/20...

[Ps3ShellShock]

but isnt it hilarious that all the 360 fans seem to have fanished without a trace lol i guess they died when HDDVD died lol

lonestar/jason/mart where are u guys...i would like to hear more on how the PS3 has failed etc etc etc

KZ2 will own...im actually waiting for those games that will top KZ2 - bc when we are saying that game looks better then KZ2 then we know we have reached a point in gaming that is truly amazing...only found on the PS3 thanks to blu-ray storage

[robbo918]

I am a Sony fan as we all know but I don't want the X360 fans to leave, its good to have both sides. The extreme fans on both sides can leave but I never want this to be a PS3 only site. I respect most of them for not coming into this thread and trashing it honestly. I don't mind when they bring actual good debates in here and welcome them to do so. Jason has his moments where you want to kill him but mostly he does that to get a rise (as he has stated before), when you see his non-flame posts he tends to make good points. There are a lot of good X360 fans, and a lot of good PS3 fans, sometimes we get so caught up in our war we forget.

Anyway, grats to the dev for sticking up for himself and I think Sony will release something big on this game very very soon.

[THE_JUDGE]

seen in a while so why are people trying to attack the dev's over what another game may or may not look like. I'm sure KZ2 will be fantastic.

[stuntman_mike]

the guy should have just banned him straight off. otherwise he'll get loads of idiots keep flaming the thread he made.

[Mc187]

Will be a great game and I for 1 can't wait for it to come out.

[Fux4Bux]

Well show us another level then. They weren't even done with the engine and texture streaming wasn't implemented yet. I'm sure it'll turn out visually stunning and hopefully a great game.

[phalanges]

for speaking his mind. What an idiot poster. Haven't seen anything of 8 days (Passes) and thinks it's the best game eva.

[undacovabrothe]

That people are too impatient if GG never showed us at e3 2005 trailer then people wouldnt be bytching about how its not out yet when the game really didnt start development until 2006 so 2 years is about time for a awesome game. I really dont think that studios should release info about a game until the year its going to be released for sure. And as gamers we know regardless of how long we wait we will get it if its good. Keeps a lot of people from being disappointed about potential delays and gives devs less pressure to worry about from the public. Im glad that Square hasnt announced any time table for ff13 because next thing they know they decide to do something or something comes up and every1 has a crap fit omg another delay wtf Ima Die. I like the saying "Dont rush greatness".

[SSCOOLCHEA]

First console was intellivision , I have never seen a game who gets beat up more than this one (KZ2).maybe its this internet thing. I didnt play the first one but most of friends that played it likes it and there not FPS guys either . All am saying is let this game come out first before anybody make any judgement . As for me I will be picking up this game just to check it out.

[wow4u]

Maybe someone should ask him about the $60 Million budget.

[Grahammad]

So it's $60 million now, is it? Motherh, the other dev that posts on those forums, put it best... "It seems every time I hear about the budget it seems to have increase a few million." Last I heard it was 40 something million... lol

[GETPWNED]

ok, so he got called out for making a crap game. big whoop.

[whitesky]

Please inform us as to why you think that way.
If you don't, then you're just going to be looked at as a complete tool in front of many people here. Try replying with some logic on why Killzone 2 is a crap game. Bet u cant

Oh..and btw..woulld u please get tht sick f@#$ing avatar off ur profile? im tired of comin on here to read news and getting disturbed with tht nasty pic u damn freak

[GETPWNED]

at least I have a pic, n00b! and Krapzone 1 was Krap. Krapzone 2 will also be Krap, but to the 2rd degree.

[CaliGamer]

Don't even bother with this a hole, I owned him on a forum a few days ago and he was so angry he PMed hours later where an epic verbal A$$ whooping ensued. I mean the guy was trying so hard to hurt my feelings calling me a n00b, called Little Big Planted (Little Kiddie World), he was just corny and so unoriginal I almost felt bad for the things I said. He's just trying to insult someone because this is the only place he can talk SH!T and not get physically handled and I violated that comfort by calling him out on all aspects of his pathetic life. Not to mention he is probably looking to redeem himself after the verbal beating he got by me.

His avatar is a result of his unnatural obsession with little girls and putting things in his mouth, this all stems from his constant abuse at the hands of his scary uncle who comes in his room and gives him "back rubs" and plays "Hide the Stick" with him on a nightly basis.

I suggested he change his name to "IGETPWNED" but I don't think he liked that idea. After several sessions of verbal abuse he finally stopped PMing me and admitted defeat, his insults were weak and you could tell by the way he responded that he was shaken by the turn of events when I called him out for what he was.

We should all feel sorry for GETPWNED really, he is a product of mental and physical abuse as well as a broken home. I would suggest you give him a hug, but due to his obsession with banana shaped objects and putting them in his mouth I shudder to think what he might try with you.

Take a lesson from GETPWNED kids, mental illness is real and can strike anyone. At least most of the other 360 fanatics have good points from time to time, if you look at this guys post history from just a few days ago it becomes evident that he has no evidence for anything he says, he's just a rambling crazy person who probably sleeps in his own filth.

Good Day Sir.

[ER1X]

Here's my problem with Killzone 2. It's been in development for god knows how many years, and who knows if they're even close to done. I'll be surprised if it comes out in 08. This game will have to absolutely unequivocally destroy all games to live up to the hype and standards that have been building up around it over the years. Otherwise, it's going to be considered a flop. And, that's unfortunate. I really want this game to do well but I just don't know if it's possible to live up to 3 years of hype.

[undacovabrothe]

Look at halo3 it had 3 years of hype but it sucked but people still bought it and played it.

[ThaGeNeCySt]

if people bought it, played it, and continue to play it (number 2 played game on xbox live behind COD4 :-D ) then obviously the game doesn't suck and people like it.

[power of Green]

I don't know why any PS3 game is so hyped up to be frank.

Splinter cell DA for the 360 looked as good as any PS3 game.

[SSCOOLCHEA]

no comment ---a-hole

[power of Green]

lol.

[b777conehead]

to pog i don't understand all the 360 hype you moron

[jASSon 360]

hahahahahahahahahahah

[Big Jim]

Killzone 2 looks good, no question about it, but why are people going INSANE over Killzone 2? Why are they FREAKING OUT? I'll come right out and say it--COD4 looks just as good as Killzone 2. Seriously. What is so mind blowing and earth shattering about those KZ2 videos? What am I missing?

[smitty]

At the end of the day, only the finished game will determine how good it is. Until then, nobody knows anything, it's all speculation and BS.

[CaliGamer]

You would think the haters would cool it, especially seeing as how the last showing KZ2 was so close to the target render.
If I had doubts about the game I would be very cautious about being too sure it was going to garbage, lest I look like an ass when proven wrong. But I digress as it seems like many on this site have no shame and will be here talking SH!T minutes after they are proven wrong. You have to admire their ignorance and tenacity tho.

[KozmoOchez]

gamers in forums like that like to act like they being the consumers can tell the devs and such how to run business like they are their boss or something...this happens all the time, I remember when UT3 was first released and this one guy freaks out on them b/c there was no mod support at the time due to settling issues with Sony and the kids calls them liars and says that they have no business selling games and bla bla...baby stuff

[Superiorrior]

Just like the titles said, everyone is human everyone has outbursts and this guy was just defending his work, his hard earned work, wouldn't we all? Killzone 2 looks far from a "disaster", not only that they met there target render in PRE-ALPHA, the words target met and pre-alpha give me shivers up my spine, so early in development and they nailed it on the head, congrats seriously.

[poopface1]

that why I never believed the hype about this game. I played the demo of killzone 1: decent, and all I head about 2 was about how good it looked(graphically). Im sure this will be a good game, and better than the original, but I wonder what is with all the grafix hoars all the sudden. Grafix dont make a game and some of the best looking games suck mad balls,and some of the best games dont look so hot. Plus, weather or not someone thinks a game has the best grafix is subjective, in my opinion. Why would someone like that, who seems to like killzone less than me, even bother posting on the killzone page: cause they are a douc# bag.

[anglefire]

http://www.YourPS34free.com...

Please help me get some referals people

[THWIP]

What a whiny little b1tch. I hope not everyone at Guerilla is that pathetic. :o

[Utalkin2me]

But in all honesty. It doesn't look as half as good as the CGI teaser that was showed IMO. But the game will still be good game.

[Toixer]

When gameplay and story can hold up with the very promising graphics, and I'm talking bout both games, then they're gonna be totally awesome. No need to be rude or aggressive. Actually you can't react anyway other than being grateful for these devs.
Well, the internet is a big nasty place, where you can't prevent immature ppl from writing.

[ThaGeNeCySt]

I hope Killzone 2 lives up 2 the hype, but right now, as far as FPS on PS3 goes, it's all about RESISTANCE 2!

[caffman]

its a slow news day.
I hope that killzone 2 is great as killzone 1 sucked big time. It's on my to get list at the mo

[George Washington]

ahh i dunno about KZ2.. it has awesome graphics but.. gameplay is where it all at.i think KZ2 is gonna flop. i mean seriously when was the last time gorilla games made a good/decent game?? ...never. anyone remember black for the ps2?? well this is black for the ps3.