something about this sounds fishy, how can a reviewer even be able to post a review before having it go to the chief editor, which of whom always knows if you have source material, i think this is side stepping tac-tic by ninja theory so they wont be exsposed, for getting a negative review.
I guess all the fake reviews will be the ones shooting down this game. First time in a while I seen a game developer make a statement about fake reviews.
i posted it as a rumor because there is no concrete evidence to show that the review was fake or not, and i agree, heck when uncharted 3 got an 8 naughty dog could have said oh the reviewers just hating, or the review is fake, but they didnt, why, because naughty dog is a company full of respect for themselves, the industry, and their fanbase.
is that Eurogamer gave Uncharted 3 that 8 rating. Eurogamer of course, being one of the most widely known, reputable video game publications online. Not just that, but Eurogamer actually waited for the embargo to lift before publishing their review.
In the case of DmC/Ninja Theory, the embargo was broken by some no-name Italian site who didn't even get a review copy according to Ninja Theory. Highly dubious stuff. Other than that Italian site, the only other reviews for DmC we are aware of are all from magazines.
They're aware of the immature hatred there is for this game out there, and some people go out of their way (kind of like in this console war) to make things up and write fake reviews in order to attempt to mislead people.
It's the cool thing to do to hate on NT and DmC though. Get on the bandwagon.
Real or fake, those dudes will will get slammed by a few people for changing it so much; What really is a bit of an insult on the company though, it plays like Heavenly Sword; NT aren't one-trick ponies, but doing a game so similar to another tame they made when nothing was wrong with the old game really isn't helping their rep.
no, but realize that most of those are from people that never played the originals, mainly 3, now reviews from gamespot, ign, and gametrailers, you know the big companies, then i wouldnt believe those, heck even before this game i never believed them, like seriously, skyward sword, uncharted 3,10/10 really?, and people that used to work there already said that ign, gamespot,etc.. have been paid off hundreds of times before, and if not they will get crap reviews, example splatterhouse(2010), or better yet some reviewers like to troll just to stir up the internet, example destructoids review of Assassians creed 2, then look at the review of brotherhood.
@Prototype- What difference does it make if these reviewers play the originals or not? Ninja Theory's DMC is an entirely different game, not a sequel, prequel, or side story. It would be like comparing the new Tomb Raider to the PS1 games.
The originals have NOTHING to do with the reboot. DMC should be judged on its OWN merits.
this games animation and weapon noises and WEAPONS themselves make this game KINGlike. some peeps play video games for the STYLE of play, and the SOUND DESIGN, and the GRAPHICS, not JUST for the POINTS system, ex: SSS this SSS that ? . . irrelevant . . .so i think Ninja theory is just warning us gamers about bunk reviews given by pre mordial DMC fans .. .
@Logicwins: Doesn't work that way. Tomb Raider will be judged on the series, DmC will be judged on the series. When you try to cash in on an established name, the game gets judged based on the series. That's the way it is, and always has been. Those playing DmC that have never played Devil May Cry don't know what they are talking about. Plain and simple. They should also have some integrity and put that in their review, but most will lie and say stuff like "Old school DMC fans will feel right at home" as though they know what they are talking about when they've never played one game in the series.
If Capcom or anyone wanted a new game judged on its own merits, they should have made a brand new game, not try to be greedy bastards and ruin a franchise while trying to cash in on its name.
I'm sorry, but if this game can get a negative review while games like Black Ops 2 (which really don't push the formula forward) score highly, then something is very wrong with journalistic integrity.
DMC is fantastic, I've played a nearly complete build and played numerous builds over the last year and a half at various shows. It's an amazing testament to Ninja Theory's talent and keen eye for design and style (going all the way back to their Xbox days with Kung Fu Chaos).
Ninja Theory quaking in their boots. I hope this game bombs so Capcom restructures their company. First Megaman, then Resident Evil, and now they're killing Devil May Cry.
No idea if the game is any good or not, but while I was at the eurogamer expo there was a couple of games that made me think "how are these games looking so good on such old hardware" and DMC was one of them.
No, fake as in the publication wasn't sent a review copy, so they either made everything up, or they reviewed a leaked version of the game. Oh, and they broke embargo, which further questions the site's validity.
Assuming they reviewed a leaked copy of the game ( street dates are always broken ) and broke embargo, it shouldn't discredit their opinion.
Calling them fakes just because they didn't receive a review copy is just as unprofessional as the site which broke embargo, in my opinion.
Many bloggers purchase copies of games then post their review. Not everyone can get on a publisher's list for reviews copies but that shouldn't be held against them.
They are called fakes because there is no proof they played the games because they hadn't officially or legally obtained the game. If a reviewer reviewed a game they own then good. Counting out the fake reviews of people without the game reviews are pretty fake anyways. Opinions are influenced by popular opinions. All are written almost the same. They praise one game for something and then ignore that when it is done better in another game and point out that other games faults instead.
Question is the Italian magazine, and they actually gave the game a 9/10 so I don't think they really are focusing on bad reviews, its more likely that this publication got a leaked copy or broke the embargo, or made the entire thing up for generating hits. at this point it shouldn't matter to most of the haters here if NT is warning the gaming community of the fake reviews, because 98% of the people here vehemently hate the game for very silly and arbitrary reasons and were already discrediting all the "positive" reviews and were fanning themselves with that one review that came in at 7.5/10 as if it was in line with what they were hoping since this game was announced.
At this point it shouldn't matter, the hare for this game is already at an unbearably inhuman fervor on this website so most who like this game or is willing to let it stand on its own merits are drowned out by those who hate it. What will likely be the case is that This game will do well perhaps even better than what the community here expects, 8s - 9s I'm predicting more scores in the low to high 80s, there will be a shit storm on N4G and most who were on the fence will cave in and buy, the game will sell reasonably well to warrant another sequel, it won't break records but it'll be enough for Capcom to increase its budget for the next game and the community will commit hara kiri in large over out rage that the game defied their hate and wishes for failure. There will be low scores, as everyone has different tastes, that's expected, and that'll be fine because this game won't be for everyone. But it'll be a game that does well because damn near every reviewer will have spent plenty time to realize that this game is a reboot and shares little in common with the original and they'll review it on its own merits and strengths and weakness and I feel most of the positives and not so favorable reviews post for this will be based on those review criterias. The controversy of this game will be put to rest and I have faith that review publications and media outlets will do this game its just. And not out of hate.
as for me, all I care about is playing it for myself from start to finish. Bring on Jan 15th 2013.
lol @ people thinking this is some kind of conspiracy. I guess the haters can't accept that this is really a good game that has been getting great reviews so far. It will be the best hack & slash this year (aside from maybe GoW:A).
Rising will destroy this game. My opinion only. Although I think you can admit that objectively, the response from a majority of people is similar so far.
The demo of Rising was waaaay closer to the feel of what DMC used to be before NT turned it in to Heavenly Sword 2 with more weapons. If you re-skinned everything in Rising with the same art style and characters from this reboot DmC, but retained the feel of the combat system in Rising, I guarantee you public opinion would be far more favorable. It still wouldn't excuse annoying characters and boring enemies, but the feel would be intact.
Platinum programmers created this style of combat. It has a feel all its own and I hope Capcom finds this reboot unsuccessful and hires them to create DMC 5. You can call me a hater all you want. NT should have made their own game using these ideas instead of taking a franchise loved by many out of commission.
Despite what ever gripes i had about this reboot, Ive decided to go in with no negativity towards it. After all those goddamn shooters of 2012 i cant wait to get back to sum hacking and slashing!!! These guys made heavenly sword and that was a fantastic game released in a bad period for the ps3.
Abit off topic but anyways my first DMC was number 2 and i loved it! So u can guess how much I enjoyed this hole serious even that mindfuckery that was 4..,
Same story, just more info. Heres a quote for anyone that doesnt care to click on the link
"Chief designer Tameem Antoniades has also posted warnings. "Dear followers," he tweeted last night. "Online reviews shall arrive closer to release. Online reviews that appear now have not had review code. Don't be duped."
It sounds like they are basically saying that any "online" review published so far is bogus. But it does sound strange to hear a developer speak out about something like that, especially about a game thats already so controversial.
It does seem strange since companies almost never comment on reviews. Even stranger is that so far the few reviews I've seen have been pretty positive, although I haven't been looking too hard for them.
I don't know though. Closer to release? It's coming out next week, so don't know how close they'd want to cut it. Maybe they're just worried people will give it a bad review because of all the negative press it's gotten so far.
"especially about a game thats already so controversial."
Wouldn't that be exactly why they have to make consumers aware of this? If online reviewers haven't received their review code yet, they can hardly publish a fair review. Any review that is published is derived directly from controversy.
But by being so vocal about this at least to some people that already dont have a very positive perspective on DmC, it may seem "shady". So really its a no win situation, either you say something (like what happened)and people might question your motives for doing so, or you dont say anything and have people doubt your product.
However I just posted what I did up there to kind of clarify what was really said as his original quote was taken out of context.
They fear the game will be a flop judging by the fan reaction. Never thought the day would come when i'd skip a DMC game. I mean what did they expect, that people would go and buy a game with added/removed features they never asked for? I loved the series but like most third party games recently, it's either a bargain bin purchase or save my money for something i actually will enjoy playing.
It will be a good game. A whole new group of ppl will like the new dante, well the previous dante was a hot headed kiddo and the new is a street punk so pubescent nerdgasms for both dantes anyways.
Capcom dont make me regret this, edit button does not work after a while
@Canary: You're one of those "I have to spend $60 to judge a game because there is no other information out there on it" types aren't you. Look, these days there is all kinds of information to give gamers a chance to make an informed decision on whether a game is good or not. We've seen a plethora of info on this game and it all points to bad. If you're the type that likes to throw away money, give it here and it will be spent on REAL games that actually ARE good.
Not games with broken combat, tacked on sex scenes for the hell of it, ripped off weapons and story elements, a cliche story, terrible characters, ugly characters, and the use of the most ancient of ancient engines of the gen all just to make a patchwork clone of other games.
This is a terrible excuse of a DMC game, deal with it.
@DragonKnight: That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying you have to play a game to judge it. One would think the reasoning obvious.
Can you review a book without reading it? A movie without seeing it? Of course not.
And you don't have to spend $60 to play a game. You can rent a game, borrow a game from a friend, buy used with the possibility of return/refund, or even pirate. There are plenty of options.
If you think gaming such an expensive hobby that you have to judge books by their covers, so to speak, odds are you need to find a cheaper hobby.
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@Omnislash: probably. But given how many examples, just from last year, of games that looked like they should have been fantastic (Mass Effect 3) or games that looked terrible (Dragon's Dogma) and ended up being quite the opposite, I'd think our little community would have learned to withhold judgment.
I mean, christ, I can sit here all day and tell you what a terrible game Final Fantasy XIII-3 is going to be, but my opinions won't have any legitimacy because I haven't played the game. I'm not saying you can have an opinion of a game without playing it, I'm saying you cannot have a LEGITIMATE opinion of a game without playing it.
This is logical, common-sense stuff, and the fact that anyone finds cause to disagree with something like this is both mind-boggling and depressing.
It's like dealing with children. "Wah! B-b-but I -hate- broccoli?" "How do you know you hate it if you've never tried it?"
-Lame Story -Short game -No replayability value -Poor Story -Unreal 3 engine, no 60fps -Too Easy, even on hardest difficulty -Tasteless jokes and humour
Why are people still so butthurt about the new DmC and Dante in particular. Those people should get over it and wait for the actual game. Imho it's not a big deal if a game is taking a new direction.
It's more than just the direction that people have a problem with. It's the actions that Director Tameem Antoniades, Producer Alex Jones, and Capcom themselves have said and done in the past. Their mockery of the fans and the Devil May Cry series has made people despise them.
If this game bombs then it will send a huge message to Capcom that you can't insult your customers and still expect them to buy your product.
something about this sounds fishy, how can a reviewer even be able to post a review before having it go to the chief editor, which of whom always knows if you have source material, i think this is side stepping tac-tic by ninja theory so they wont be exsposed, for getting a negative review.
Ninja Theory quaking in their boots. I hope this game bombs so Capcom restructures their company. First Megaman, then Resident Evil, and now they're killing Devil May Cry.
So by "fake review" they really mean "negative review".
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In other words, the reviewers they didn't pay off will be releasing their reviews soon.