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GDC: Valve confirms Left 4 Dead left off PS3, moots Source for Wii

Speaking to videogaming247 at GDC today, Valve's Doug Lombardi has confirmed that highly anticipated zombie shooter Left 4 Dead will definitely not be making its way to PlayStation 3, and said that if the company were to tool up for a format outside PC and Xbox 360 it would be Wii.

"We were really crappy at bringing games to consoles," he said. He cited the time it took to move the original Half-Life games to console formats as an example of how the company had come "really late" to console development. He said that while the focus had always been on PC, the company had now moved up a gear to produce games simultaneously on Xbox 360 and PC, but that it had limited interest in developing for Playstation 3.

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UnblessedSoul6060d ago

but that it had limited interest in developing for Playstation 3.
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Yeah I bet you stupid retards, learn to program

decapitator6060d ago

Someone send them this link and tell them to STFU. Thanks.

http://nocturnal.insomniacg...

socomnick6060d ago

Thing is they do know how to program they just dislike the ps3.

Panthers6060d ago

That is because Valve are douche bags. Their games would sell on the PS3 if they would just quit being fanboy devs.

SRuN46060d ago

Really? Cause last time I checked they haven't made a PS3 game yet.

decapitator6060d ago (Edited 6060d ago )

I highly doubt that he can code for the system. No developer will pass up an opportunity to make money unless they have been money-hatted by a different company. From a business point of view, it makes no sense.

@SRuN4
That link should be a nice start for them. If they are still having problems with the basic stuff Insomniac have simplified for them, they can check the latest cross platform engine from Sony out:

http://www.joystiq.com/2008...

hfaze6060d ago

That's just flat out bias or just being absolutely set in their ways to a fault...

Infinity Ward has put together a SOLID cross-platform engine with CoD4. It runs great on Windows, Xbox 360, AND PS3. Valve is just so set in their ways that they don't want to learn how to work with the PS3 architecture.

The 360 is a natural extension from PC/Windows architecture, they didn't have to learn much to adapt from Windows development.

The PS3 is more like a vector processing (SIMD) supercomputer, WAY different from PC/Windows development.

Gabe Newell may not be with Valve in body, but his spirit is still there... ;-)

jessupj6060d ago

Valve can go f**k themselves as far as I'm concerned. Half-life was a great game but thanks to their arrogance and stupidity I'll be avoiding their games in the future.

f4nb0i6059d ago

Talk about throwing the rattle out of the pram.

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PS360WII6060d ago

Yeah they really don't like developing outside of PC structure do they?

Silellak6060d ago

Well, I think it's more that they can do 360 and PC development in parallel because the code is so similar, but throwing in a PS3 version makes things that much more complicated and increases overall development time.

You can write for the 360 and the PC at the same time, but not for the PS3 and the PC at the same time, because PS3 architecture is significantly different than PC architecture. The PS1 and PS2 were the same way - in fact, they were supposedly a bit worse.

Sony has been working on remedying this issue - there's an article up right now about that very thing:

http://www.n4g.com/events_g...

It's still not as close as 360/PC development, but it's a big step in the right direction.

decapitator6060d ago

It would seem so. Guess they do not really like making more profit than they normally would. Oh well, is their loss. They prefer developing only for the system with over 100% piracy activity.

Silellak6060d ago

Well, that's it folks. The console war is over. Pack it up - better luck next generation.

...okay maybe not. Looks like a fun game, but not the same level of HOLY CRAP exclusive like MGS4 or FF13. Especially because, like 95% of 360 exclusives, it's also going to PC.

I'll probably get it for the 360 though, if only to avoid cheaters/hackers/etc. that are sure to exist on the PC.

pwnsause6060d ago

thats why theres VAC though, but anyway I agree, tell them to STFU and learn to program.

RIPHDDVD6060d ago

Like I care about this trash with last gen graphics.

Silellak6060d ago

Judging games before they come out is *awesome*.

NEO_X6059d ago

disagree with such a quirky retort such as this.
Bubbles for you :)

p.s. now for my point
PS3 is doing fine with or without them, I really love the Orange box it is loaded with goodies but the attitude that Gabe comes with is so annoying at times

zonetrooper56060d ago

Still getting this game for the PC, so I can make maps for it and because it will be the best version. No it does not take a 2 grand computer to run most of the games on the Source engine.

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Looking Back At 2008, An Unbelievably Incredible Year Of Video Game Releases

Huzaifa from eXputer: "2008 was home to the likes of Call of Duty: World at War, Dead Space, GTA 4, Far Cry 2, Left 4 Dead, and many other hits, which is outright remarkable."

ChasterMies152d ago

Some of these low paid video game “news” writers weren’t born before 2007.

just_looken152d ago

Here here

Those that were around before 2000's i am sure are like me that think we entered a world of non readers or those that follow without question.

I can not wait to see fallout 3 a goty game even though it was about water with non content until you add the dlc/updates then you got the performance/crashing

CrimsonWing69152d ago

I don’t think anything can compare to 2023

lucasnooker152d ago

1998 - the best year in gaming! Metal gear solid, crash bandicoot 3, medievil, half life, ocarina of time, thief, tenchu, resident evil 2, Spyro, tomb raider 3, oddworld abes exodus, banjo kazooie.

It was a different breed of a gaming era. You’ll never understand what it was like back then. The aura of gaming, it was different!

KyRo152d ago (Edited 152d ago )

I second this. Gaming was a lot more varied and fun than it is today. I'm 35 so getting on compared to some here but I got to see all the changes from NES up to now but I've never felt so disappointed in any generation than I have this current gen. I was expecting more from this generation rather than prettier versions of games that came before it. Game mechanics have become so refined that alot of games feel the same and has done for a while now.

Maybe it's time to have a break for a while. I love gaming but I don't feel I get much fun in the traditional sense out of it anymore.

CrimsonWing69152d ago (Edited 152d ago )

Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil 2, Abe’s Exodus, and Ocarina of Time are the only things from that list that I liked.

Here’s the 2023 game releases that I personally liked… and big releases that I didn’t care for:

- Dead Space Remake
- Wo Long Dynatsy
- Resident Evil 4 Remake
- Diablo 4
- Fire Emblem Engage
- Hogwarts Legcay
- Street Fighter 6
- Hi-Fi Rush
- Like a Dragon: Ishin
- Octopath Traveler 2
- Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters
- Final Fanatsy XVI (actually ended up not liking this, but it was still a big deal release)
- Baldur’s Gate 3
- Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon
- Lies of P
- Mortal Kombat 1
- Marvel’s Spider-Man 2
- Starfield (Ended up hating this one, but big release)
- Super Mario Bros. Wonder
- Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (I’m an old-school Zelda fan, but didn’t really enjoy this game)
- Alan Wake 2

I mean, honestly I’ve never seen a year of major IP releases like that, ever.

Profchaos152d ago (Edited 152d ago )

Isn't it just a generational thing realistically.

I've been gaming since way back and I some of my favourite games go as far back as the late 80s for me each generation has a year or two of game changing releases one after another before an inevitable dry spell.

I kind of agree gaming had a different feel games hit different because we didn't have the internet nothing got spoiled and you really had to put in the effort to beat a puzzle which could set entire groups of people looking for a solution. But most importantly games were experimental and not as cookie cutter as today even basics like controls were not universal today r2 is shoot l2 is ads garunteed you can't deviate from that in a shooter back then it could of been square, R1 or R1 and circle nothing was standard.

But as time moves on a new generation picks up their controller they are going to be interested in different things that PS1 demo disc with the t Rex blew our primitive 16 bit brains back on launch but to kids today it's laughable.
The new gen of kids coming into to hobby seem to value different things to us there seems to be a huge focus on online play, streamers, gaming personalities, and social experiences, convience of digital downloads. To me I value none of that but that's ok like my parents not liking the band's I would listen to its just the natural cycle.

Gameseeker_Frampt152d ago

Just about every year in the 7th generation was great and something we most likely won't experience again.

2009 for example had Assassin's Creed 2, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Dragon Age: Origins, Uncharted 2, Halo 3: ODST, Killzone 2, Borderlands, Bayonetta, and Demon's Souls to name a few.

just_looken152d ago

It still amazes me we got over 7 rockstar games ps2/ps3 but 3 for the ps3/ps4/ps5

Dragon age 1-3 and mass effect 1-3 in 7ish years what a generation.

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Most Offensive Video Games That Would Never Cut It Today

Times are changing, and these games would have never been made in today's climate.

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thorstein190d ago (Edited 190d ago )

Every single time someone uses this phrase whether it's music, movies, books, comics, video games, etc it's always the same claim.

The ubiquitous "they" won't allow it to be made. And every decade these claims are made the claimant completely ignores all the "offensive" material that is published when the claim is made.

In ten years, you can write a new article about how you can't make games like Helldivers 2, Resident Evil VIII, Mortal Kombat I, Dragon's Dogma 2, Alan Wake 2 etc etc etc any more.

MrBaskerville189d ago

Yeah, people wouldn't be constantly outraged if there weren't games that people found enraging. The whole SBI discourse shit wouldn't be a thing if all games were inoffensive. A game like Starfield can make a guy froth at his mouth, so there will always be room for a list like this.

0hMyGandhi189d ago

Normally, I'd be inclined to agree with you, but there are massive caveats.
TV shows like Venture Bros, Ren and Stimpy, and Aqua Team wouldn't/couldn't be made today. Hell, Ren and Stimpy was a *children's* show, same thing with Rocko's Modern Life.

It's not for some arbitrary reason, either. It's branding and IP alignment. Companies are far more risk-averse than they were when I was kid in the 90's. Of course, you have companies coming out of the woodwork to hell spur on similar content, but remember: Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon and some incredibly provocative material.

And for movies? it's pretty obvious. American Pie/Wedding Crashers/Eurotrip among many other "raunch coms" have fallen out of style, and are absolutely outside what the modern day film industry is willing to stand by.
Ace Ventura 1 and 2, Dumb and Dumber, Freddy Got Fingered, Rat Race, Harold and Kumar, and Van Wilder follow suit.

Remember: I am not explicitly talking about films put onto streamers. I am talking wide-releases in actual theaters. Same thing goes for games: Carmageddon, Duke Nukem, Manhunt, Six Days In Fallujah (with their original concept), Hatred, and so on and so forth. Of course, I'd be inclined to mention most tactical shooters like Rainbow Six and Joint Ops as well, due to cultural sensitivity regarding *who* you are shooting and why.

And not all of it is bad (obviously). Tastes change, and perspectives change to fit the demographic.
I should add that I'm a lefty, living in L.A. Working in film.

thorstein189d ago

The Boys, Invincible, Jojo Rabbit, Deadpool, Gen V, Last of Us, Banshee... There are plenty of media being made today that people will claim "can't be made today".

Profchaos189d ago

Yeah but if you consider manhunt which was basically a snuff film could you seriously make that game with high than PS2 era graphics.

thorstein188d ago

The Outlast Trials just came out.

But the storyline of Manhunt was that you were executed. But then lived. And if you didn't do as you were told, you'd die. And the people you killed were not innocents.

It was all filmed by a psychopath.

As we speak GTA VI is being finished up for a release. You get to play a Bonnie and Clyde type of protagonist who run up against the law.

Bodycam looks so real.

People are making those games. Articles like this will always exist no matter how incorrect they are, no matter how many times they blame "them" for whatever it is "they" do to prevent "those" games from being made.

Number1TailzFan189d ago

The UK is the biggest junk country pandering to that nonsense as well, with laws against free speech and expression to match. It got so bad even Rowan Atkinson made a video on free speech about it.

Now the UK raises the age rating on harmless films like Mary Poppins, it's just a load of pansy weak ass nonsense.

MrDead189d ago (Edited 189d ago )

The right wing Tories have been in power in the UK for the 14 years you know the ones that are "anti-woke", blame them for your perceptions.

Killer2020UK189d ago (Edited 189d ago )

Are these snowflakes in the room with us now?

This is more faux outrage designed to get hits. The consequences are unfortunately creating hysteria amongst those willing to buy into it and blame "them" or "the left" or "liberals" meanwhile the left are kicking off about genocide, actual real world abhorrent acts. Nobody is campaigning to censor this shit.

Huey_My_D_Long189d ago

Not too mention the fact that some of these game are controversial for you know, underage porn and encouraging rape.

So either the guy just came in to comment snowflakes without reading anything, or he is calling people snowflakes for having a problem with said titles. Crazy how much brain rot someone can have.

banger88190d ago

Dead Island: "The early PC version of the zombie game swapped the playable character Purna’s Gender Wars skill with a prototype name, which shouldn’t be mentioned directly. The skill name made fun of both Purna as a character and feminists."

"Feminist Whore" lmao

gold_drake189d ago

ill add one more to the list.
drakengard 1.

its ridiculous tho, especially since they'd still be able to find their place in alot of places in the world. except america of course ha. and maybe Australia.

ppl are so sensitive these days. ha. but it is what it is.

Barlos189d ago (Edited 189d ago )

They're not offensive.

And we need another Fat Princess. Fantastic little game!

Some people just have no sense of humour if this sort of thing offends them. They need to lighten up and stop taking themselves so seriously.

Deeeeznuuuts189d ago

Would love a new fat princess game 🤟

CantThinkOfAUsername189d ago

Games literally about sexual assault, mass genocide, bombing civilians, and school shooting. None of which is satirical.

isarai189d ago

Actually it's about fat princesses

Huey_My_D_Long189d ago (Edited 189d ago )

Its crazy that people are fixated on Fat princess when clearly the list is going over controversies, and not all of them are equal. Like way worse examples but pretend the entire list is like that.

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Left 4 Dead Writer Explains The Drawbacks Of Releasing Games In Early Access

He wants to launch all his projects initially through close beta.