What Will Next Gen Bring That We Don’t Already Have?

Joel Taveras writes, “Bigger, better, louder, more.” That was the way God of War and Twisted Metal creator David Jaffe described the next gen when I questioned him about it earlier in the year. What I found interesting from that interview was that even an industry visionary like Jaffe couldn’t shoot me a straight answer on what the next generation of consoles and games would even bring and, for the past 10 months since that interview, I’ve wondered the same exact thing.

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taz80802145d ago

If its graphics, meh. I'm hoping for smarter AI

BitbyDeath2145d ago

We're getting that now with "The Last of Us".
I'm hoping for true multi-tasking.

JoelT2145d ago

I'm not even trolling, but genuinely interested as to what you mean by "multi-taking" pertaining to games.

BitbyDeath2145d ago

Ability to play music, watch movies, play games, copy files, run home, access the store/web etc.

All at the same time or at least 2 or even 3 at once.

Septic2145d ago (Edited 2145d ago )

It's about time that significant strides are made in the area of Artificial Intelligence. I think this generation's take on it has, on the whole, been woeful.

With the exception of certain A.I behaviours, I cannot think of a single game that has convincing A.I. Admittedly, it's a very difficult area to program for but even so, in comparison to the effort put into areas such as visuals, physics, scale etc, AI has been neglected to the detriment of the medium.

I really do hope that the Last of Us lives up to its promise. What is the point of amazing looking 3D gaming worlds when the 'inhabitants' that comprise these worlds are hollow and one dimensional at best?

pixelsword2145d ago (Edited 2145d ago )

Accurate grenade/n00b-tube/mine detonation. I hate it when someone launches a grenade from a launcher three feet away from me and gets no damage, or you set-off a mind coming around a corner and detonate it and die before you even go through a door.

That, and advanced boob jiggle.

@ septic;

Play Killzone 2 on elite; it's probably the best AI I've seen this gen.

stragomccloud2145d ago

So.... a PC?
Not trolling. Just being facetious.

Thefreeman0122145d ago

you can already play music and play games at the same time. im not sure why you would want to watch a movie while playing a game because then you are not giving any good attention to either.

th3n00bg4m3r2145d ago

Yep, The Last Of Us has the best AI in a video game ever.

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konnerbllb2145d ago

Graphics, AI, Physics, Map size, Team size, ect.

Conzul2145d ago

I'm tired of seeing cloth clipping.

Anyone who's watched Altair, then Ezio, climb to synchronize and see their cape just magic itself through the wood platform knows what I'm talking about.

Oh, and METAL ARMOR DOESN'T STRETCH! Stop having it deform along with the mesh it rests on! Sheeesh.

ILive2145d ago (Edited 2145d ago )

I think the price range should be between $400 and $500 dollars. We need some form of a noticeable leap in the visual department because that is what they are going to use to sell their consoles. I don't like the whole AI argument. Do you want it to take 6000 hours to kill an enemy because it was super smart? What if you are surrounded by multiple enemies? It is still a game after all is it not? Enemies should be challenging, but not to the point that its vexing. Perhaps when it comes to co-op partners should be smarter but not to the point they are killing all the enemies, leaving you with nothing. Perhaps stealth games are where AI need more work. I want noticeable improvements in graphics, creative freedom for developers (which means taking risks), more rewarding game-play experiences, less sequels and fun games that combine all the elements together for great entertainment like Uncharted 2. I also want more people in multiplayer. 30vs30 sounds good to me. Next gen may be my the last gen I can truly have time to game.

wiiulee2145d ago

the wiiu is the only true next generation console that is going to be out with true next generation gameplay and uniqueness with great and microsoft will settle for prettier picture while pc games still look better then them and haters and silly fanboys will be happy that the next xbox and ps4 can do pictures twice as pretty as ps3....nintendo went the right direction with major interaction upgrade and rounded better graphics then the current generation...then again im sure sony and microsoft are thinking of ways to copy the wiiu gamepad.

BitbyDeath2145d ago

FYI. Not everyone likes the Wii U tablet/gamepad.

Stroke6662145d ago

thus the pro controller was born, problem solved no? but why waste developer time to skip the cool shit the gamepad can be capable of.... meh whatever floats ur boat

Pillsbury12145d ago

Sony and m$ do follow and imitate what Nintendo does which means they are unique. I like the wii u because it tries to innovate but we all know the ps4 will be more powerful, but better graphics doesn't translate to better games. Sony brings amazing exclusives and pushes tech to new heights.

Daoshai2145d ago

Have we not grown up yet? This m$ stuff is so childish

Stroke6662145d ago

so I take it doashai is ur real name?... no? we cant pick and choose when to be freely expressive my friend.

ratcop222145d ago

The wii u is a joke sorry to say. The graphics don't even achieve next gen or current gen.

PopRocks3592145d ago (Edited 2145d ago )

Based on what, launch titles (most of which are current generation ports) or analyses done by random hackers? How about giving the console its due time before writing it off graphically?

Stroke6662145d ago

How about playing one(not kiosk bound) before making empty statements

ratcop222144d ago

Techincally this a response to PopRcoks359 but Ng4 is being stupid and won't let me reply directly. Yes I am saying the Wii u is a joke based off of Launch titles. When the xbox 360 launched it had Ps2/xbox games on but looked and played much better. When Ps3 launched it had Resistance which played much better than pretty much any Ps2/Xbox game

pixelsword2145d ago (Edited 2145d ago )

"the wiiu is the only true next generation console that is going to be out with true next generation gameplay and uniqueness with great graphics"

You *must* hook me up with your supplier.

As most Wii U people state, the next gen is the next one out, so by definition all next-gen consoles will have true next-gen gameplay.

As far as great graphics, when the Wii U reaches God of War III level graphics, I'll sort-of believe it; when it surpasses it, then it will merely live-up to what Reggie and a lot of "U" folks have been saying from the beginning, it will not advance it's reputation though.

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GrandTheftZamboni2145d ago

4K visuals for games on discs, 1080 for cloud games.

JoelT2145d ago

While 4K TV prices linger around 25,000 USD, 4K games seem to be a ways off.

pixelsword2145d ago (Edited 2145d ago )

Some of us can afford 4K televisions, so why should we suffer or the tech be put on hold for the next gen while the other gamers wait around for the tech to drop?

That's the same reason why consoles are behind in some way; This gen is bucking that trend, and I hope the next one puts consoles neck and neck with cutting-edge and near-future PC specs.

I understand that it could add to the price, but basically what will happen is one of three things:

The tech will be available next gen while in a year or two the tech will be old and then old tech will be put in next gen consoles (basically what people are saying Nintendo is doing with the Wii U)

Console will start to have shorter console cycles and will price itself out of the market due to the general population's advancing PC knowledge (hey, if you're going to spend several hundred dollars in less than five to seven years on a console, you might as well do it on something that you can mod and possibly make money on)

Or, the tech will simply not be used this gen (if at all) and it will put the PC in a stronger position because the tech will eventually drop in price, and if it's not going to be used, then it's going to be a tech that PC and graphic snobs will flock to.

GrandTheftZamboni2144d ago

You're right. But take into account 1 year till the next gen consoles are released + 5 years console cycle. Consoles should be able to utilize what will be a standard in their last year or two.

konnerbllb2145d ago

1080p on cloud would be nice, I don't think we'll see 1080p at 60fps this gen, we can't even do 720p at 60fps this gen.

boybato2145d ago

its been several years since "this gen" started.

pixelsword2145d ago

There's been a few 1080p, 60fps games this gen

Qrphe2145d ago (Edited 2145d ago )

1080p should be an easy task for the new gen (it's been a standard for years on PC).

Don't expect 60fps on most games though. I say this because most developers will favor graphical effects over higher framerate most of the time.

FarCryLover1822145d ago

Graphics, AI, PHYSICS, destruction, more NPC's on screen.

madjedi2145d ago (Edited 2145d ago )

I would like to see more games, make use of a more realistic physics destruction engine like the digital molecular matter engine, lucasarts used in the force unleashed games.

And a definitive reduction or all together elimination of loading screens or cutscenes to mask the load screens.

Is a open world game like fallout/skyrim with battlefield bad company 2's level of destruction or better being too greedy?

Does nvidia's physx engine ect do the same thing, ie objects respond more like they do in real life. Wood splinters, glass shatters, metal bends ect.

I could see sony show the infant stages of vr, they have a personal headset tv screen equivalent to a 150 inch screen. Motion controls(move) and add a head tracking device with built in high def speakers and there you go. You could even sub the move for a regular ds3.

Of course if they did do this, it would be a very niche market at first, but as technology progresses over time i could definitely see it take off.

Pillsbury12145d ago

True 1080p standard 60 fps for all games. True multi tasking like opening up the browser while gaming, an improved browser that doesn't crash my ps3 all the time. An overall better smoother experience than we already have. Ps4 I am ready. Long live play.

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