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BioWare Director: “I’ve Never Been At A Company With This Level Of Fan Engagement”

BioWare has been extremely keen to court fan opinion of late. Many believe this has been directly prompted by the ferocious backlash over Mass Effect 3′s controversial ending. But a senior member of BioWare’s development team claims that the company has always worked hard to reach out to its fanbase.

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Jinkies4313d ago

"that the company has always worked hard to reach out to its fanbase."

Oh you mean like you asked us for months what we wanted to see in a Uber Mass Effect 3 Collectors Edition only for you to cancel it. Then theres the rushed ME3 ending which I'm pretty sure Casey was the main problem behind it, lets not forget EA pulling the strings behind closed doors and you guys covering it up pretending that everything is fine.

If you guys really cared then the inducruation theory would of been the ending of ME3, we would of gotten a DLC pack to actually finish off Harbinger and everyone would of been fine with that, but I guess you couldn't face the fans coming up with a better story then you guys.

SephirothX214312d ago

If you spent less time bitching and more time learning how to develop games, maybe you could contribute to a game better than Mass Effect 3. Though, I have my doubts.

ForgottenProphecy4312d ago

We shouldn't let Bioware forget their mistakes

Megaton4312d ago

I agreed until you mentioned the indoctrination theory. That stupidity and the people who follow it are a pestilence.

Jinkies4312d ago

Nope...it made more sense then the ending so calling it stupid is ignorant.

Megaton4312d ago

It's a series of reading between lines that don't exist and clutching at imaginary straws. It's the pinnacle of desperation and delusion.

TekoIie4312d ago (Edited 4312d ago )

@Jinkies

I agree with megaton. I would much rather get a choice of 3 shoddy endings than 1 being forced down my throat which downright sucks.

Now if they had made it so Based on certain combinations of every major decision you made throughout the game resulted in a different ending and the indoctrination theory was one of those (which is what should've happened) then I'm on board...

But otherwise it can go straight to hell.

TrendyGamers4313d ago

I wonder if the next Mass Effect will get a reveal at E3?

animegamingnerd4312d ago

its probably right now only on the drawling board

omi25p4312d ago

This is EA we are talking about, its probably almost finished. It will be there " Big triple A" Rpg next year.

2011 it was Dragon age 2, 2012 it was mass effect 3, 2013 is dragonage 3 2014 its mass effect 4.

Its how EA develops they release the same game every year with a different story and weapons ect.

Just look at Battlefield and Medal of honor

Aloren4312d ago

They'll probably reveal the next Dragon Age. I don't think we'll see anything about the next mass effect before the next VGAs (at the earliest).

shodan744313d ago (Edited 4313d ago )

@ TrendyGamers

Probably too soon. I know there's six months to go, but only last week BioWare were suggesting they hadn't actually decided whether it would be a prequel or a sequel! I reckon they're in the VERY early stages of development.

unchartedxplorer4312d ago

Considering that bioware made an entirely new dlc for people because that weren't happy with the original ending, is generous enough. Sure they shouldn't have released the game with that type of ending, but think about the amount of developers that made a new ending dlc because fans weren't happy with it. Heck, even bethesda couldn't make proper port for the ps3 and still can't for the past year.

Summons754312d ago

Entirely new dlc = a slide show. The ending isn't the problem, the fact that they promised your choices from me 1,2&3 would effect the ending and then turn around to completely ignore every plot choices since the start (ie: killing the rachni means that they still survive in me 3). The only fan interaction Bioware has with its and is making promises and breaking them and listening to their wants and doing the opposite.

I use to respect Bioware too.

Aloren4312d ago

Even if it were only a slide show, how many developers have made such a move ?

If you want a game that completely ignores every single choice you made even though it promised they would change the outcome dramatically, try the walking dead. It's an excellent game, yet nothing can change. No matter what you do, you'll always have the same ending with the same survivors.
ME3 vanilla ending actually offered a lot more diversity than TWD.

I agree some choices in ME (like the rachni queen) were not given the impact they deserved.
Still, it's not "completely ignored", you get different dialogues and a different outcome when it comes to war assets.

But anyway, you can't say everything is ignored. You still decide the fate of entire races (Geth, Quarian, Krogan...), most of the ~20 squadmates you have during the trilogy can be either dead or alive... Look at Ash for example. She can die in ME1, she can be killed on the Citadel in 3, she can die while running to the beam, she can leave the normandy to be a specter on Hackett's ship...

aliengmr4312d ago (Edited 4312d ago )

@Aloren

I would expect any developer that botched a part of their game to fix it.

For ME3, its story is its primary selling point. It was broken. It wasn't just the choices, but the entire concept was a mess. I expected them to fix it as I would expect the COD devs to fix a gun that was messed up.

You don't end anything, much less a trilogy, with more questions than answers. Sure you can leave some things to the imagination, but not the entire thing. You also try to avoid putting the resolution BEFORE the climax. Even if you could justify doing all that, ME is not the type of story to do it with.

When the readers of Mass Effect Deception pointed out serious inconsistencies in the story Bioware and Del Rey acknowledged the mistakes and promised corrections in future editions. When you create a "lore heavy" story like ME you have a certain responsibility to that lore. And while the book had far worse errors than the ending of ME3, it was still terribly inconsistent.

ME3 was terribly rushed. While great care was taken with the sub-plots, the main plot seems like it was hammered out in no time at all. Had they had more time, they might have done better. They had a certain amount of responsibility to the lore they created and tossing it all out on some half-baked, "rocks fall" ending, complete with its very own plot holes, was something they had a responsibility to fix.

rpd1234311d ago

"the fact that they promised your choices from me 1,2&3 would effect the ending and then turn around to completely ignore every plot choices since the start"

This argument makes no sense to me. The plot choices from ME1 meant close to nothing in ME2. Why would it be any different in ME3? What did you want 100 different possible endings? It's not their fault you had unrealistic expectations.

Godmars2904312d ago

And never has a game company so failed such a fanbase.

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Dragon Age Director Says Anthem Taught BioWare To Focus Only On "What You're Good At"

Dragon Age: The Veilguard's creative director has recently claimed in an interview that Anthem taught BioWare to focus only on its strengths.

TheNamelessOne43d ago

Let's hope so, because I'm pretty sure they're one more stinker away from being canned by EA.

RaidenBlack43d ago

2 stinkers
They are already working in the next Mass Effect.
And both Dragon Age and Mass Effect are valuable IPs ... EA aint selling those IPs. So, if EA cans Bioware, who'll make those after?
Yes, if EA outsources, like Dragon Age to Larian, then that's justifiable but keeping an internal RPG studio is more viable.

Willbo4742d ago

Sad thing is, EA was the beginning of Bioware's woes. When EA made Bioware move away from it's traditional rpg model towards an action/adventure model, it hurt Bioware as a developer, and let's not even get started on how EA rushes releases. They've wrecked EVERY developer they have touched

Lightning7743d ago

y'all were good at Jade Empire 2 back then. More Jade Empire please. Though it'll probably be a LS. At this point IDC just bring it back.

TricksterArrow43d ago

Too bad most of the talent that made BioWare’s strengths, already left.

anast43d ago

Brought to us by the same people that said it was exciting to only focus on gameplay while they were hyping up Anthem. So, this could mean that they dropped the ball on Dragon Age. I mean, the art looks like Fortnite and the quick banter of a Disney action movie doesn't really say "Dragon Age."

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH43d ago

The thing about Anthem is the game had a good foundation. To this day I haven’t played a mech suit game with better flying mechanics. It’s everything else in Anthem that sucked.

Michiel198943d ago

thank god they released that EA access thing at the time for anthem, so we only had to waste 3.50 for the game instead of 60, good guy EA thinking of their consumers for once.

The flying/combat was actually really fun, but as you said everything else was really bad. the gameplay loop, the gear, loading, the open world was empty and that story hub was one of the most terrible hubs I have ever seen.

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Insulting Its Own Legacy To Promote Dragon Age: The Veilguard, BioWare's Lost It

Hanzala from eXputer inquires, "If Dragon Age: The Veilguard needs BioWare to degrade its own works just to promote it, what does that tell you about the game's quality?"

Daeloki58d ago

Damn, people really need to calm down. Every Dragon Age game has been wildly different from each other, there is no singular version of what it used to be... Back when DA2 came out, people complained and compared to DAO, but still played the game. When DAI came out, they complained and compared to DAO and DA2, and still played the game. I know, I've been there. I complained about DA2 and DAI, but I still played them and I still enjoyed them. All 3 first games were vastly different, and I count them all among some of my favourite games. We've seen very little so far, it's much too early to be this dramatic about it.

just_looken57d ago

What we know/seen is dragon age 4 for through over 3 overhauls have entire teams leave all the original bioware member's leave and now we have a game that decided to redo all the known designs of every enemy.

This thing its going to be saints row reboot and or anthem/redfall/me4

You should watch the netflix dragon age that made it cannon da3 ending is that inquisition gone everyone split up and or is dead why? we need that dei clipboard paycheck.

https://www.koveras.net/ind...

https://gamerant.com/dragon...

https://stlawyers.ca/blog-n...

Daeloki57d ago

I watched the netflix show, not that I see what it has to do with anything? We already know we get to set our own world order for our game. There is an "official" canon that is separate from each players personal canon. This is nothing new.

As for the rest of your comment, that is purely speculation (I think, consider proofreading before hitting send).

just_looken57d ago

@Daeloki

" watched the netflix show, not that I see what it has to do with anything?"

If you actually watched the show you would know at the end the item they have is in vanguard gameplay the part they climb the steps.

Also in the anime da3 charecters appear it shows one of the end of the games dlc which is cannon because again da4 starts after the anime.

Not to mention your talking about dragon age keep that has not worked for 8 years on pc and sits dead not updated sense da 3.

Just like mass effect 4 they have not shown any interest in porting over old data from the keep.

Now everyone mass down vote yell i am a liar with 0 evidence sense no doubt no one on here has ever played the games or used the keep in the last 5 years.

Daeloki57d ago

"If you actually watched the show you would know at the end the item they have is in vanguard gameplay the part they climb the steps."

Ok, so that item will be relevant to the plot. I still don't see what that has to do with my original comment?

"Also in the anime da3 charecters appear it shows one of the end of the games dlc which is cannon because again da4 starts after the anime."

So? You realize Dragon age has had books and comics before too? There is an official established canon for publishewd media like that, and then there is the canon we players determine in the game. These are separate canons.

"Not to mention your talking about dragon age keep that has not worked for 8 years on pc and sits dead not updated sense da 3."

Nowhere did I mention Keep, I said we get to set our own world order, they've confirmed that this is part of the character creation. But since you brought up keep not working, it worked just fine for console less than a month ago when I started a new Inquisition playtrough. Can't say for PC though.

jznrpg57d ago

2 was janky. I enjoyed 3 buts it’s failed MMO roots showed. 1 is still the best

just_looken57d ago

I prefer number 3 combat but number one had the best character's choices its to bad that game is abandon ware now.

Its a pain to get running without crashing has 0 controller support and the mouse/keyboard controls are barbaric.

We need a collection like they did with mass effect.

bababooiy58d ago

Similar thing happened with SaintsRow and look how that turned out. To be fair we are seeing this happen in other industries as well. This is what diversity hiring gets you, people that hate gaming and only ended up in the industry for the money.

swedishMeatwad57d ago

Wow, everything can be blamed on diversity hiring... "the problem with the world today"

just_looken57d ago

wow 12 dislikes on a comment that actual devs of the game agreed on
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

But the mega cult is getting trump into power again so i should not be surprised saint row reboot has a fanbase.

EternalTitan58d ago

Legacy?
I can hear the fans being insulted and being told that this is no longer a product for their audience.

RiseNShine58d ago (Edited 58d ago )

I can't think of anything more dumb than insulting past games legacy to promote your new game, even more when they were among the best CRPGs ever. The game has to be in really bad shape if they want to promote it that way.

CrimsonWing6958d ago (Edited 58d ago )

So, he insulted the legacy by stating better combat in this than previous entries, better story telling with a bigger focus on narrative than prior entries, more intricate character designs, which he claims were limited in the past to make cosplay “easier,” is “insulting” the legacy?

Ive seen so much sh*t talking about DA2 and Inquisition that it weirds me out to see people now defending those games. I, personally, thought the gameplay trailer looked great… while the initial teaser, not so much. I’ll wait for the game to come out and see if it’s “better” than the previous entries, but people need to calm the f*ck down over this. He’s just claiming improvements they’ve focused on that I’m pretty sure stemmed from consumer criticism in the first place.

jznrpg57d ago

I liked Inquisition but 2 was not very good. I have no idea about this game yet I haven’t played it

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BioWare Could be Working on More than Just Dragon Age Dreadwolf and Mass Effect 4

Earlier this year, BioWare was hit with layoffs as part of a downsizing of parent company Electronic Arts, but fans have been reassured that the next Mass Effect game hasn’t been impacted. Likewise, Dragon Age: Dreadwolf’s development is still churning along, with BioWare putting it at the forefront of its focus and rumors suggesting that it could launch sometime later this year. Fans might be getting another look at the long-in-development Dragon Age: Dreadwolf at the Summer Game Fest in June.

If the recently posted job offering for a temporary development manager is any indication, BioWare could have yet another surprise up its sleeve for when Mass Effect 4 and Dragon Age: Dreadwolf are nearing completion. This mystery BioWare video game could truly be anything, from another spin-off of its two major properties to something entirely new. All there is to go on at the moment is a vague mention in the job posting, and it might still be some time before BioWare is ready to confirm any new games in its pipeline.

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just_looken176d ago

So a studio that spent years on anthem then this dragon age thing is now also working on another ip along with mass effect,

You think they would be worried that there brand has been on 3 major screw ups

Dragon age 3 launched broken with the frostbite engine yes its a good game but you can see in the late game how rough it was

anthem......

Mass effect 4 well that dev team was fired so yeah.....

They should make sure this new dragon age is a goat instead of putting more work on the table

bababooiy176d ago

Bioware today is like 150 poeple i dont see how they are seemingly working on all these projects at the same time.

Michiel1989176d ago

Inquisition wasn't broken, it just had some flaws and on the contrary it also had some strengths. If you call inquisition a major screw up then idk what to say.

That said with what happened to the study since then and now, I'm not really confident that their next game will be any good.

just_looken175d ago

If you played it fully to get plat like me back in its novemeber launch window you had that castle with empty area's endgame missions not there or working and a mp that was made around loot box grind like the mass effect mp.

Its hard to explain to those that played it years later after they tossed out the dlc/patch's

Michiel1989175d ago

entitled much? I played it at launch too. Why you even platted it if it was a "major screw up"?
It was good enough for you to sink 100 hours in but also a complete fuckup at the same time, make up your mind.
So either you like shitty games or you're just talking out of your ass.

RaidenBlack175d ago

Well just wanna say, Archetype Entertainment is the new BioWare, composed of mainly ex-BioWare vets.
And they're developing Exodus (starring Matthew McConaughey), a new sci-fi RPG (spiritual successor to Mass Effect, dare I say?)

CantThinkOfAUsername176d ago

I hope it's a single player game with Anthem's gameplay mechanics.

Becuzisaid176d ago

They're owned by EA. What makes you think that they wouldn't publish for PS5? Shoot, if your fridge could connect to your bank account EA would try to release it for that if they could!

Double_O_Revan176d ago

How about they focus on those games and not over extend themselves? We don't need another Anthem.

Becuzisaid176d ago

Bioware died after Inquisition (some would even argue after ME3). They are no longer the same company.

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