It still amazes me how Microsoft can have incidents occur (discontinuing original Xbox, discontinuing HD-DVD add-ons, and such) and show no sympathy in any way for all of the loyalists who paid their hard earned dollars for their products, I guess thats just business, straight Cut-throat.. .... ... ......"The JOEY has Spoken"
MS never really fully supported HD-DVD (luckily), i believe they did it purely just to be a thorn in Sonys side.
So the news of its defeat wont really effect them, apart from maybe pushing a few customers towards the PS3. But to be realistic, someone who was on the fence between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray wouldnt of bought a 360 for movies when there was much cheaper stand alone players out there.
The only big loose for them is the stock of HD-DVD add-ons they have sat in a warehouse somewhere.
I hope MS doesn't treat the 360 like they did the HD-DVD add on. I'm still not convinced that MS is in the gameconsole business for the long haul. Some of the moves they've made recently can be construed as an exit strategy.
Robbie Bach selling stock
Losing Bungie
Losing Bizarre
Canceling X07
Less than stellar 2008 lineup
Non existent 2009 lineup
Key executives leaving
They better make some big announcements at GDC this week. They need to reassure people they are willing to keep investing in what's been a difficult industry for them.
I don't think they are going to be jumping out of the console business. Their 2008 line up isn't bad you should take another look, in my opinion it is better then sony's.. however I do believe a new console will be launched somewhere around 2010, after all this is MS (they release new operating systems every 2-3 years). But 360 games will most likely be compatible on it, and it will be far superior then any current console, killing the ps3's precieved longevity.. for me honestly, i am used to upgrading my pc yearly.. having to upgrade a console once every 4-5 years for 400 bucks isn't a big deal.. and honestly.. makes sense.. i dont want to be playing the same old console 6+ years down the road like the ps2.. i'd buy a pc to play better games if it takes longer then 5 years for a new console to come out.. I am already tempted to get a pc and its only been 1 year...
Those add-on hddvd drives sitting in a warehouse are not an entire profit loss. On the technical side some of hddvd components are the same components used, and valued in blu-ray drives. Particulary, the blue laser diode that both formats utilize. Microsoft like any major company does recycle (some more than others) they will get money no matter what.
Microsoft and Defeat in the same sentence as they have a pretty good handle on all of their businesses and monopolies, but hey, I guess everybody has to try a slice of Humble Pie every now and then..... .... ..... ......"The JOEY has Spoken"
The only people that the HD-DVD defeat effects are the people that brought the add-on. But they are right in saying as a whole this does not & will not effect the XBOX 360 in any way
behind the scenes theres frantic microsoft excutives going sh!t Sh!t damn that there sony and there vision for the future get me their fortune teller i dont care how much they cost!
it was a joke,those of us who dont think the so called 'console war' is going to save poverty,cure cancer,bring the troops home from iraq or feed all the starving babies in the world, have a sense of humour.
its a piece of plastic technology you plug into your tv,and play for a few hours of enjoyment,its not that serious. get a life!
I mean just a little bit. It worries me but lets hope they dont follow this jump ship type trend/attitude with the 360 like they did with the original xbox and now hddvd
remember, MS built the 360 to be a games console, not a DVD player, thats why they offered the add-on, they didnt force people to adopt the format, everyone knew there was a battle between HD/BR and it was up to them to take an educated guess at which would win.
Obviously, MS could offer people their money back but this is business and you dont become a global leading company by giving things away.
Cause they didn't give a sh** in the first place. They were only doing it to have something else to go against Sony. Now that HD-DVD is dead, their going to focus on downloadable movies.
Microsoft did not own HD-DVD Evils & a silly add on for it does not really say much. So Microsoft has every right to be calm because as a whole this DOES NOT effect the XBOX 360 at all. Though the NEXT systems after these just got interesting with Blu-Ray being standard. The Playstation 4 will loose what made the Playstation 3 stand out unless Sony starts another format war
blu ray does affect 360 due to the surge in consumers who will buy a ps3 due to the fact it being the most future proof bluray player plus the bonus of being able to play games
and for gamers its a blessing because we get to watch the winning format as a bonus if we feel.
but the biggest news i believe is that games come on bluyray for ps3 this will be the next big news with developers stating dvd9 is a pain, i 100% guarantee it! you have all seen how fickle this game is all i read now is news bashing 360 and praising ps3
i say that because MS made a hddvd add on for a reason and one of those reasons was to get people who wanted to watch hd movies to purchase a 360 or people who already had one to get the add on so they too could experience hd movies without having to buy a stand alone hddvd player or better still a bluray player or ps3. Nothing you do in life carries zero risk or consequence especially in business. What happens to the surplus add ons now, they did cost something along with the r+d amongst other things. Of course MS aren't the main casualty of the format war but to say they are unaffected is a touch naive
You are underestimating the new kind of consumer thats wants everything in one box, so this might steer more consumers to buy a PS3
Not to mention the fact that PS3 sales units will rise due to it being the best overall blu-player, and even though it was bought as a blu-ray player and not a game machine it will still count as a sale for sony which will boost its units sold, and we all know the progress report for any company selling products is the units sold
So when consumers see the units sold later on in the year, and if this does help the PS3 boost it's units sold, then the consumer will see it as a popular machine and if a casual consumer is looking for a game machine these variables might help it get bought
"You are underestimating the new kind of consumer thats wants everything in one box"
You are underestimating the kind of consumer who wants connectivity and interoperation.
Everything in one, short-lived, fixed-life, closed, black-box device? no way.
I want my devices to do what they intent to do well, and work together with the other devices I own. My cellphone plays the MP3s that reside on my PC, so does my Xbox 360.
My Vista box has a TV & Radio tuner, and I use my Xbox 360 as the front-end to my PVR and as a playback device.
My MP3 player? Connects to my AP and wirelessly syncs from the music on my PC.
Does Sony have the power to say no Blu-Ray for Microsoft? I think they should. I don't think the Blu-Ray will do go on the xbox because the users who bought the HD-DVD will feel too burnt to waste money on it and will probably instead just buy a PS3.
First, I doubt Sony would ever say no to MS since MS would just sue for rights. Second, did Nintendo fans abandon the NES when ROB didn't work or had no games or when the powerpad and got lost in the shuffle? No, they just bought the next new thing from Nintendo...the SNES. You may have a few defectors but don't expect many. Fans tend to stay loyal. A true gamer however will own a PS3, Wii, XBOX360, PSP, and DSLite.
Either way this certainly does not effect me in any way as I am more then happy with DVDs & even though I have a PS3 Im not buying Blu-Ray until DVD is discontinued & that wont be for a long time
If microsoft gave a dmn about Hddvd or blu-ray then why since it's launch have they been pushing the High Definition download angle. I gaurantee you more people download media today than they watch and listen to on hard media.
but they do need though to do something because now the PS3 is the only console with a next gen standard optical drive. What this means is that people that don't know it already will start to perceived the x360 as inferior to the PS3 especaily with the x360 much publicize unreliability factored in.
Blu is no longer a gamble and those who might want to upgrade to blu from DVD will also look at the PS3 as its still the cheapest and arguably the best blu player. MS shouldn't panic but they definitely need to do something to counter this blu victory with regards to their gaming div.
They will be saying this when the PS3 SPANKS THE 360 ALSO. Or blame it on fake shortages. Microsft cant believe Sony are coming from behind to SMASH them... but they know its coming.
Grow up people. Do you really think Sony are about you? Have you forgot the lies sony continually spread? The fake videos... No one cares about anybody. Sony laugh at you fanboys. Your doing their job for them and they don't even have to pay you.
the have no problem w/ f**kin people over. right?
MS never really fully supported HD-DVD (luckily), i believe they did it purely just to be a thorn in Sonys side.
So the news of its defeat wont really effect them, apart from maybe pushing a few customers towards the PS3. But to be realistic, someone who was on the fence between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray wouldnt of bought a 360 for movies when there was much cheaper stand alone players out there.
The only big loose for them is the stock of HD-DVD add-ons they have sat in a warehouse somewhere.
Microsoft and Defeat in the same sentence as they have a pretty good handle on all of their businesses and monopolies, but hey, I guess everybody has to try a slice of Humble Pie every now and then.....
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The only people that the HD-DVD defeat effects are the people that brought the add-on. But they are right in saying as a whole this does not & will not effect the XBOX 360 in any way
"The John Rico has Spoken"
about it cuz it wasnt integrated into the system. boy imagine if it had been. down down down the xbox would have fallen. lucky they didnt