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PlayStation 3: The Final Hack

EG writes "Trouble for Sony as new custom firmware and security keys are released."

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Tired4631d ago

Ah crap...and so it begins...

GribbleGrunger4631d ago (Edited 4631d ago )

A sensible comment from someone who knows what they're talking about:

'I think Sony are laughing their butts off. The CFW that is out is bricking a lot of 3.55 PS3's - the only people who would benefit from this leak are those who already have CFW installed. Newer PS3's have lv0.2 which can't be cracked (the private keys are with Sony and no where else) so can't go to 3.55 to get the CFW.

So we have pirates who have no real change, they just have an update to their CFW, normal users who can't use the CFW and pirates who have now lost their pride and joy, their 3.55 PS3's so will have to get it repaired or spend a fortune on a used fat with 3.55.

Sony will have learnt a lot about security with the PS3 though so the PS4 should be very secure, I'll be very surprised if it's ever hacked unless Sony make a major mistake with the software or hardware that gives an attack vector.'

It's a hack of a hack people. So only those that have already hacked the PS3 can use it.

shoddy4631d ago

These day hacking any device isn't really beneficial.

They all have fw update wich is a pain in the buttock to keep up.

I still waiting for IOS 6 jailbreak and unlock.

TronEOL4631d ago

See, this sort of works two ways. This whole hacking thing sucks horribly (or at least did) for normal users who just want to play and enjoy video games (you know, the reason Sony makes PlayStation), but, it also allows Sony to beef up their security. To say the PS4 won't be hacked, tho, is kind of unrealistic.

It may last longer than the PS3 did (which was very long, and only hacked because something was stolen, which is illegal), but someone will get it eventually.

kane_13714631d ago

I doubt they will make it easy for PS4 to be hacked at all.
The PS Vita is pretty much impossible, why should PS4 be any less

guitarded774631d ago

@ shoddy

Exactly. If some of these guys have such a passion for running custom software for specific hardware, then build a custom PC and go crazy with Linux. If you buy a console, or phone or whatever, they are designed to perform specific tasks implemented by the designers... So we purchase those consoles, phones, etc because we want access to those services on that design. If these hack/crackers are so brilliant, there is an entire industry in which they can work and bring their constructive ideas to life. I can certainly appreciate pressing the envelope to tear through the abstractions of hardware v software, but if it's just about free games and phone calls then the hack/cracker in that case is nothing more than a thief with too much knowledge.

Autodidactdystopia4631d ago

Man you guys get worked up over the dumbest shit.

sony will fix whatever the problem is and ittle be over with.

people are gonna do what people are gonna do. nothing whining can do to stop it.

andibandit4631d ago

I guess we all knew the PS3 would face this day at some point. Too bad it was a fun ride.

Danbruno13104631d ago

I like you comments gribble. Your crazy but I like u

ZombieNinjaPanda4631d ago

@Guitarded

Who are you to tell someone what they can/can't do with their own device that they purchased?

GribbleGrunger4631d ago

True. If I buy a crowbar, no-one should be able to tell me not to break into your house and take your money.

ZombieNinjaPanda4630d ago (Edited 4630d ago )

@Gribble

You can straw-man all you like. It doesn't support your argument any better. I can come up with a million different situations that SOUND terrible, but are related in no way whatsoever.

Fact of the matter is, it's your device. You do with it what you please. If you want to hack it, you hack it. If you want to pirate, then do that, but you may have to deal with consequences. But who are you people to actually tell a person what they can or can't do with WHAT THEY PURCHASED WITH THEIR OWN MONEY.

In fact, the people saying that modifying their devices isn't even worth it, the fact that features come about that Sony, Apple, or any other company would have never included way outweighs not jailbreaking/modding it.

I have my ipod jailbroken, and I do not even use it to download apps. The functionality increased by several 100%, but according to you I'm scum and villainy. The fact that you clowns automatically jump to piracy as the number one reason that a person would want to modify their device speaks wonders about your insecurities and your loyalty to a company that doesn't give two craps about you.

CommonSense4630d ago (Edited 4630d ago )

right.....cuz we know the hackers will just stop here and not have a new firmware update within a week. those hackers are notorious for being extremely lazy and unmotivated........

@ZombieNinjaPanda: you'd think these people had something to do with the creation of the system or the software...the way they get so bent out of shape over something that has nothing to do with them.

GribbleGrunger4630d ago (Edited 4630d ago )

ZombieNinjaPanda

I don't recall calling you scum. You're argument is flawed in a fundamental way but I doubt a long drawn out explanation would convince you of that. You need to protect your position in order to justify what you do.

I bought my PS3 to play games. How many of those games is down to developer support. If I play copied games then the developers have less reason to support the PS3. This leads to me having less games to play.

No matter what you use cracks for, others use that same crack for something less benign. If what you are doing allows you to play games for free, then people have the right to complain about you because you are removing the incentive for developers to support the console. Ask any PSP owner

Walk into a store, pick up a CD and walk out without paying. Do you think your argument would stand then? What's the difference? It's a product that someone has made that you should have paid for but you didn't: theft.

yeahokchief4630d ago

Thank you for this comment. I am totally buying a PS4 next gen over whatever Microsoft puts out.

Through their ordeals they will have learned so much since this generation. And they handled the attack like pros giving us free games and stuff.

And they don't spam us with ads like microsoft, they don't give into the lucrative sales to casuals, they have free online and they have been pushing out some great new IPs.

SONY FTW!

TheLeapist4630d ago

@GribbleGrunger
While I agree with most of everything you're saying, what you stated there isn't the definition of theft. On top of that pirating games also isn't theft. It's actually copyright infringement, which of course is just as illegal and admonishable. The more you know.

Outside_ofthe_Box4630d ago

***"The fact that you clowns automatically jump to piracy as the number one reason that a person would want to modify their device speaks wonders about your insecurities and your loyalty to a company that doesn't give two craps about you."***

Ummm that is the number one reason why a person would modify their device.... well I'm pretty sure it isn't reason number 28....

Don't tell you're one of those people that think that most PC gamers that pirate a game only do so to test the game before buying it.

Please, we all know people want stuff for free.

r1sh124630d ago

@GribbleGrunger...
The only reason the ps3 took 'so long' to hack is because all of the big hackers did not care, but once sony gave them a reason to be angry they opened up the system.
All systems/hardware/software are prone to hacks, its a matter of time.

Back to the article - I dont know how these USBs will be used, I assume most users will have a more up to date FW installed.

Sony really wont even take notice of this, the console has to be already hacked for this to work, and of all the PS3's out there I assume its less than 1% (generous) that are hacked.

AsimLeonheart4630d ago

Hacking has one benefit; it results in more hardware sales. I live in Asia and over here people are poor. An average person who works 10 hours a day only earns around $200 a month out of which he has to pay for rent, bills, food, clothes and transport. A passionate gamer may be able to buy a console after saving bit by bit for a couple of years but he could never afford to buy $60 games when he has a family to feed. He only has one choice either to quit gaming or get a hacked console. Therefore they buy the console brand which has been hacked so that they can play games for a cheap price. For several years XBOX360 was the most popular console over here because you could buy a pirated game for as little as $2. That is why XBOX has higher sales; it is more popular in third world countries like Pakistan, India, Philippines and Malaysia. Nobody bought the PS3 because it was unhackable but after the CFW 3.55 hack we were able to play PS3 games finally. The hacks only result in sales for the console in third world countries and more total sales. Consoles are not officially released over here so the sales appear in sales numbers from their respective regions. I know people hate pirates and hackers but for us guys they are like heroes and saviours who allow us get a taste of the fun and pleasure of gaming. If there were no hackers, we would never be able to experience any of the great games. It is a necessary evil for us...

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monkpunk14630d ago

@ zombie

Ok i paid for it but i also bought my House, where there are clear and spacific rules about what you acn and can't do. i decide however to modify it, i put an extension on, raise the roof 10ft build a garage, even have chickens in the back garden etc etc etc...

Local authorities see this due to either complaints by their other residents or by just checking an area. i am forced to remove everything as i did not have permission, planning etc etc. in other terms you may own the device however you do not own the abilty to mess with everything on that device. Its called control and when it affects others i.e. me getting online for a game it then affects the masses and further stricter measures are taken and enforced. it's a minority of bloody minded people that insist and continue to try to push little boundaries all the time for very little or no benefit to others.

Sony may not give a hoot about me personally, although i am a customer and i think that customers are respected and their needs are looked at very closely, whatever you want to say about any company customer service be it excellent or pants they still invest millions into maintaining a certain image that they and every other company in the world try to do. if you had someone that affected your business and customers you would certainly look at ways to make sure your customers were protected, unless you really did not care about their personal details being leaked and you name being bad mouthed in the press. How much did the downtime cost? i don't have the figures but i'm sure it wasn't pennies...

Go and build something on the side of your house (modification) then watch as you are forced to remove it, or taken to court if you dont!

GribbleGrunger4630d ago

Just read back through this from last night and have to say: 'what an half-baked argument from me that is'. Up late/No sleep/Oh dear.

But in essence, I stand by what I waffled.

d0nni34630d ago

@ZombieNinjaPanda

You're using the same argument everyone does to justify this and i'm the same, it's a nonsense argument you own the hardware and yea you can do what you want with it, the thing you don't own is the software and when it comes to editing software you have no rights at all.

I have a jailbroken phone and i've modded my consoles in the past but i know full well in the eyes of the law i don't have a leg to stand on when i start playing with the software.

violents4629d ago

Anything can be hacked and it's stupid to think it's impossible to hack any device, essentially thier only hope is to make it as difficult as possible for it to be hacked, not to say they havent done that or anything but either way its unlikely but not impossible.

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Pushagree4631d ago (Edited 4631d ago )

The PS3 has remained an unhackable console for the last 6 years and it will continue to be unhackable until the end of time. Sony will just keep patching any holes they find and arrest anyone who hacks the ps3. If you want to steal games, do it on PC where there is no console war. Sony can't afford to have anyone stealing games or hacking into psn. They have a war to fight and they will win.

yoonakron4630d ago

A war to fight? No, my brother who is stationed in Afghanistan has a war to fight. Sony's just another corporation that wants to make money and is protecting their interests. Ease up on the hyperbole, it's just videogames, here.

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r1sh124630d ago

@yeaokchief..
Sony might be doing great in the gaming division, and having 'core gamers backs'
But lets not forget the other things they have done in the past.
Not having backwards compatibility even though it was possible, or the CD root thing, or how they did not let customers know about the hack for a few days. Thats a few things

You can say the RROD was a catastrophe but MS at least provided a free repair service and an extended warranty.

All large organisations just want to effectively make money, so if thats the primary goal everything else is secondary..Like its customers.

Also if a person does not yet have a console, now is not the time to invest in a ps3 or xbox 360. Wait for next gen or the Wii U.

Chucky20034630d ago

well you're right and wrong,if these LV0 keys are for real,SOny can't do shit anymore,they need a new hardware,so they actually released the new PS3 slim,that one can't be hacked,but the people who still have fat consoles and early slim versions they can jailbreak it,if these LV0 are the real deal,it means ever update Sony will make,they will be able to break it
Sony to arrest anyone who hack a PS3,dude don't be so naive,wake up,Sony again can't really do that,the first time it was easier for them because those guys brag about,it was easy to find them,then there is the problem with the laws,every country has there own law,and not every country is that harsh about piracy,deal with it,piracy was before you were born,and it will remain after you are dead

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Cam9774630d ago

I'VE JUST UPDATED MY PS3 and singstar is ON THE XMB!!! WHY?!

AsimLeonheart4630d ago

This hack wont hurt PS3 sales because it only works on some of the older slim PS3 models that or on FW 3.55 or less. The new super-slim models are still unhackable because they have different LV0 keys and even most of the older models are getting bricked. Rogero who created and uploaded the first CFW 4.21 has pulled it down due to large number of bricks and is testing the CFW again. So to those hoping that this spells the end for PS3 should go back to their caves. If hacking killed a console then XBOX360 should have been dead a long time ago. It is the most easily hacked console and in my country I can buy a pirated XBOX360 game for only $2. As a matter of fact hacking only helped XBOX360 maintain its sales lead because it is is cheap to own and play one

scottd4630d ago

@ AsimLeonheart Your right and hacking did not hurt Wii sales either, it was hacked within the first year.

AsimLeonheart4630d ago

@scottd

Your absolutely right, I completely forgot about the Wii. It is the most selling but the most pirated as well. We even have fully working Wii emulators but still it has sold more than any other console. I think the best strategy for a company is to earn profit on each console sold and let it be pirated just like Wii. It will become hugely popular in the third world countries and there will be a lot more sales and profit as well.

LUKENBACHER4630d ago (Edited 4630d ago )

@Autodidactdystopia

Really? Sony will just "patch it up"? Are you sure?

The SOCOM franchise has been hacked ruthlessly for over 7 years straight. It started on the PS2, and it has carried over to the PS3 for several years now. It has completely destroyed the competitive community that has played it for over a decade. Some of us have been waiting a long time for Sony to "fix" it to no avail.

You can log on to Confrontation on the PS3 right now and run into people flying through the air with unlimited health, unlimited ammo, fully automatic sniper rifles, can turn invisible, can have a 20' knife reach, can freeze rooms causing hard reboots, can force matches to start prematurely, can have 1 shot kills, no recoil on guns, and see where everyone is at on the map at any given time. The same thing happened on the PS2 and was a major problem all the way up to the point where Sony shut the old SOCOM servers down last August.

Be careful what you claim, because not all "hacking" is just done for pirating software. There are some fanbases out there that have had their favorite franchises completely ruined by extreme hacking in online servers and have begged and protested Sony to fix it since 2005.

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bad naruto4631d ago (Edited 4631d ago )

F*CK Hackers, they think they're doing the greater good, pushing companies like Sony to further the limitations on legit user with access/online keys to play and shit.

this will backfire i tell you.

SAE4631d ago

Pass codes not because pirates , because they are greedy , 10 dollars for a pass -.- even though hackers cant play online when they hack , so thats not the reason to blame hackers , there are benefits and bad things hackers do , i really dont blame them this generation because of the companies greed ..

Pass code is like dlc's that shouldnt existed in the first place ...

Lord_Sloth4630d ago

If you buy the game new and support the company you don't have to pay for the online pass so that is a horrible attempt at justification.

SAE4630d ago

People buy and sell used things for thousands of years , so why sony wants to change that ?. Its just greed when they dont want people sell the games and it had nothing to do with hackers at all , some hackers pirate and that you can blame , but you cant blame them for the limit stuff that sony do such as pass code , 2 ps3's per account , one account attached to the vita ...etc , digital games cant be sold thats why i know the ps4 will focus on that ...

wishingW3L4629d ago

@Lord_Sloth buying used games is not illegal.

brish4631d ago (Edited 4631d ago )

@yewles1

That debate is about people suing Sony because Sony was robbed.

Imagine if you had a friends files in your home. Someone breaks in and steals your friends files then your friend sues you because you didn't prevent the thief from stealing their data.

Sony didn't "leave the door open". They had measures to protect peoples data but they were hacked. Sony didn't "give out the data" either. It was stolen.

The case is stupid because Sony (the victim of the theft) was getting charged with the theft.

born2live4631d ago

Not quite...

It's more like if you told your friend he could leave his money in your home in case he wants to buy something from you, and the money gets stolen. I think Sony has a responsibility toward those people, and that dismissal sets a dangerous precedent for other companies (imagine a bank that says it has no responsibility to return the stolen money to its customers)... Sony was not getting charged with the theft, but it was responsible for the data they were holding on to. A bank would have gone out of business after something like that...

calis4631d ago

Except no body lost anything of value with the PSN hack so your example isn't the same.

DragonKnight4631d ago

What responsibility? No CC information was leaked because it was encrypted, and the other information is accessible through a phone book or google. So what exactly do Sony owe people who had nothing taken from them?

born2live4631d ago (Edited 4631d ago )

@calis and @DragonKnight
So you guys think it's ok for a company to sell your private information to anyone willing to pay for it (I know Sony didn't sell it, I'm just projecting your reasoning into a different scenario)? Just because it's already available to everyone? why don't you guys just get your social security number tattooed on your head?

If you think that data has no value, then think again: why would anyone steal it? To prove a point? Which point would be: "Sony can't protect your personal information"? And you don't think that Sony is liable for that?

DragonKnight4631d ago

Your name, address, and telephone number are all public information already. If someone wanted that information they can get it with the click of a mouse or the flick of a finger. Why should Sony be held liable for information that is PUBLICLY AVAILABLE ANYWAY?

You have no argument. The only way your argument could succeed is if CC data or other, equally sensitive information, was stolen. And guess what, it wasn't. So again, how can Sony be liable for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING happening to anyone's money, or credit rating, or life in general beyond a month without online gaming?

born2live4631d ago

Because it opens the door for something worse?

DragonKnight4630d ago

Like what? The possibility of hackers decrypting CC card data? Not possible. Sony has no liability in being a victim. That's like blaming a rape on the raped instead of the raper.

JD_Shadow4630d ago

The problem actually was that people believed that Sony knew that they had a security hole in their system, and chose to ignore it because since no one found it and no one chose to exploit it, why should they bother using resources to do anything about it. It was not a difficulty security hole to jump through, but it was seemly overlooked for so long.

Then, when the hole was found, they blamed the people for finding it, not themselves for leaving it there and choosing to be lazy because no one knew it was there. Then they took a really extreme measure that many saw as unnecessary given the situation, and using piracy as a scapegoat to remove a feature that they always wanted to get rid of (but couldn't because some early PS3 adopters were using it so religiously).

They had the responsibility, they chose to do nothing, then blame the people for finding something they should've done something about before it was found, and took draconian measures while being snobby about a group of game developers that have really done nothing wrong (unless you ask Sony). How does that NOT make us want at least a truthful explanation?

vega2754630d ago

@ dragonknight

You don't know if people had their CC info stolen or not so please stop assuming they didn't. Most people would not come to a gaming site to report their credit card info has been misused. Second Sony or any other company aren't going to tell you if peoples Credit cards was stolen to minimize lawsuits and uphold peoples faith in the services.

You really think Sony would tell people their CC info was stolen. You think Sony is in financial troubles now, people would have a field day with the lawsuits and Sony would be held liable. Their best move is to convinced you that nothing was taken and offer identity thief protection.

Plus people that have said something about their CC being used after the hack. Was called liars cause Sony said so.

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Cam9774631d ago

Stupid basement-dwellers - LEAVE TRUE CUSTOMERS ALONE AND STOP RUINING OUR FUN!

Bladesfist4630d ago

I did not know that what other people do with the hardware they bought effects you. Sure hacking PSN or some service that effects others sucks but modding your own hardware. I just see that as a buyers right. Piracy on the other hand is also bad.

Majin-vegeta4631d ago

Oh you know this story is gonna get hot asap-_-.

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Sony Faces Class Action in the Netherlands Over Allegedly Inflated PlayStation Store Prices

Mass Damage & Consumer Foundation in the Netherlands has filed a class action against Sony for inflating PlayStation Store prices.

dveio4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

My personal opinion:

Manufacturers and publishers have indeed inflated the industry.

From $700 million development costs for games like Call of Duty, to digital (store) prices for games and DLCs, online multiplayer fees on consoles (why can you play Helldivers 2 online for free on PC but not consoles?) or still preventing sell/lend digitally purchased games.

Sometime in the future, this bubble will collapse.

They should know better, but they just can't help themselves and suck even the last penny out of our wallets.

BeHunted4d ago

Because Sony knows people will be forced to pay those prices for single player and multiplayer games, not everyone prefers PC gaming. Sony also has a monopoly on PlayStation digital games. In 2019, they stopped allowing retailers and game key sellers to sell PlayStation digital games, making them available only through the official PlayStation Store

anast4d ago

The Dutch gov. wants a piece of the pie.

Eonjay4d ago

They should be suing the individual publishers increasing the prices to $80 instead of suing the store. There are plenty of publishers still selling game for like $50 with much success (like E33). But this proves that the publishers are the ones setting the prices.... so again nothing changes because they aren't even going after the main offender. How is suing Sony going to make Microsoft not charge $80 for the next COD? Sony being the number one store in the market doesn't mean that publisher have to charge us an arm and a leg. Again the industry is laughing at us because consumers never get real representation. Just these fake platitudes that are meaningless.

BeHunted4d ago

"How is suing Sony going to make Microsoft not charge $80 for the next COD"

Because Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly, I can purchase Call of Duty at a huge discount from CDKeys or other gaming retailers. The only way to purchase digital PlayStation games is through the PlayStation Store.

djl34853d ago

Weird, I swore GoW, Stellar Blade, Horizon Zero Dawn, TLoU, etc. were on the steam store....uh.....

BeHunted3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

@djI3485

I'm talking about PlayStation games that you can only purchase on PlayStation. I can purchase Steam and Epic games from 3rd party retailers and key stores.

"Sony to stop selling full-game download codes at retailers"

https://www.videogamer.com/...

Killer2020UK4d ago

About time. There is zero fair reason why digitally distributed products that you cannot recoup any value when you want to dispose of them, should be priced higher than that of physical copies that entail all of the costs and the benefits of owning.

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Sony Aims To Sell 15 Million PS5 Units This Year, but Is Shifting Focus to Monthly Active Users

Sony CEO Hiroki Totoki and CFO Lin Tao talked about the state of the PlayStation business and the strategy and targets going forward, including how they're responding to the tariffs.

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1Victor45d ago

I wonder how the USA tariffs war will affect that projection. 🤔

S2Killinit45d ago (Edited 45d ago )

I think they take that into consideration when they announce their projections. Currently, after the xbox price increase, the PRO is cheaper than the series x! That is ridiculous, and it can’t last.

darthv7245d ago

you keep saying that but the price of a PS5 Pro is S699.99 (US) and the price of a Series X is $599.99 (US)

S2Killinit45d ago (Edited 45d ago )

The series x with 2 TB storage space is more expensive than PS5 PRO which also has 2 TB storage space.

darthv7245d ago (Edited 45d ago )

Oh so you are pitting a regular Pro with a special edition X... got it. If you are going so far as trying to compare apples to apples... please add in the optical drive and stand to the Pro. Seeing as the X has both of those by default.

I will help you if you are unable to do so.
PS5 Pro 2tb: $699.99, Optical Drive: $79.99, Stand: $29.99 = $809.97
Xbox Series X Galaxy Black Special Edition 2TB: $729.99

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S2Killinit44d ago (Edited 44d ago )

The PS5 PRO has 2TB storage. The series X with 2TB storage and much weaker, is… more expensive! So yeah, Im pointing out that fact.

Also, the PRO does not require a stand.

Ps: regular series 2TB is $749 (where did u get 729?)

darthv7244d ago

Its right here on the official XB site: https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

Okay, so no stand for the Pro, but you might still want the optical drive. So $779.98 vs $729.99. A properly outfitted Pro is still more $$ than a 2tb X.

S2Killinit43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

Do I need to mention that the series x is not nearly as powerful as the PS5 PRO?

And no, the PS5 PRO runs just fine without a drive, and people don’t have to buy the drive right away, assuming they want it.

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drivxr45d ago

I wonder why they are shifting focus to MAU.

RaiderNation45d ago

Because that's where the real money is made, in microtransactions.

Profchaos45d ago (Edited 45d ago )

People are spending less time playing is a typical trigger for this.

The less time spent playing the less likely you are to spend more money on games and services including subs or even the next console.

Increased engagement equals more money.

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DarXyde44d ago

Same reason Microsoft does it: it looks better to investors and it's a solution when unit sales slow down.

Personally, I'm not a fan of this metric; and by using it, you're kind of signaling that you're moving into the "This is a PlayStation" era.

Z50144d ago

Because the PS4 also has users and not necessarily sales

Obscure_Observer42d ago

"I wonder why they are shifting focus to MAU."

Because they´d finally realized that MS wasn´t wrong after all.

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Sony Announces Large Profits Growth for PlayStation; Expects Further Wins in Current Fiscal Year

Sony announced its financial results for the fiscal year 2024, and things are certainly looking up, despite a decline in PS5 sales.

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CrimsonWing6945d ago

Expect sh*t to slow down if prices aren’t kept in check.

Redgrave45d ago

Who downvotes the truth?

Even PSN itself is too damn high.jpg

S2Killinit45d ago

Gamepass is already at 20$ per month if im not mistaken.

toxic-inferno45d ago

@neutralgamer1992

Not all of us. I'm a big PlayStation fan, and have been since the PSOne. But I can't begin to defend what's happening currently.

At least Nintendo release a large number of games from their major franchises. Sony is just not banking on their established franchises, and yet are raising prices. Not great.

S2Killinit45d ago

Im pretty sure we are going to see a price increase for PRO. I mean think about it, its currently cheaper than xbox series x! That cannot last.

Eonjay45d ago

I'm absolutely sure we will not see a price increase. I don't think we should 'expect' to see price increase because it just adds validity to what Nintendo and Microsoft have done.

darthv7244d ago (Edited 44d ago )

Sorry to pop that bubble but the Pro is not cheaper than a series x... generally speaking (like you are). It is cheaper than one specific version, and doing so by not including the optical drive and stand like the X has by default.

So keep on trying to convince people you are right when everyone knows it's quite the opposite. A stock Pro is $699.99 and a stock X is $599.99. A special edition galactic black 2tb X is $729.99. And if you really want to compare apples to apples... adding the aforementioned optical drive and stand brings that Pro to $809.97 and then they would be on equal footing.

Twisting truths to fit a narrative... I expect better from you S2.

S2Killinit44d ago (Edited 44d ago )

The PS5 PRO has 2TB storage. And the series X with 2TB is more expensive. Which in my opinion is insane conseidering how much more powerful the PRO is. The PS5PRO does not need a stand, it can be used without a stand.

TheKingKratos45d ago

So the Pro is not offering any push in sales at all ?

CrashMania45d ago

It's still an expensive, niche product ultimately. And they exceeded their sales projections for units sold by half a million.

lawox45d ago

"18.5 million units have been shipped during the full fiscal year. This is actually ahead of the 18 million units target set by the company."

They beat their yearly estimate. It's not broken down by device, but it's clearly performing well enough. Since it's been released it's consistently been the second best selling SKU on Amazon only after the the Slim with disc.

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Bathyj45d ago

18 million a year is in the toilet?
I remember when 10 was considered good
Hell Microsoft would take that right now.
Probably pay $100b for it.

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BeHunted45d ago

If their profits fall next quarter, we'll probably see more price hikes. I can't imagine having to pay £20 a month for PlayStation Plus.

S2Killinit45d ago

I think gamepass is already paying that much.

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drivxr45d ago (Edited 45d ago )

Decline in hardware sales.
Behind on lifetime sales and decline in first party sales.
Third party content and PSN came through to save the day.
Things will improve starting with the next Ghost game.

Hopefully a steady flow of first party content by end of '25

rlow145d ago (Edited 45d ago )

I guess you get downvoted for stating facts from Sony’s own lips. What I’m curious about is what their top games of the year were and how much Xbox games contributed to the increase?

CrashMania45d ago

Well, generally 3rd party publisher games contribute the most anyway, so no different to capcom, EA and so on contributing to this figure.

lawox45d ago

That's because the report is actually really good.

They beat the console sales estimate that they set last year March, they have increased users both due to the record numbers of PS4 users and strong PS5 sales which is leading to great profits in sales and user spend.

This report is about the financial health of the PlayStation brand and as a platform PlayStation is stronger than ever. Heck they even have Microsoft putting their biggest franchises on the platform.

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S2Killinit44d ago (Edited 44d ago )

Well, the facts in the article are positive. Nothing wrong with his comment, but in my opinion it doesn't correctly indicate all the facts and nuances that give context to the reality of things. I downvoted for that only.

Make sense?

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Lightning7745d ago

This is exactly what happened to Xbox year's ago. They had no first party and started seeing decline in 1st party sales, which effected their third party games which eventually effected their console sales. A slow decline across the board.

Calm down PS fans I'm not saying PS is becoming like old Xbox. I'm showing examples of the importance of first party output. Look how Xbox finally has compelling first party and things are on a up swing(despite years going on a downswing). I know thanks to PS releases which helps a ton, (which is why Xbox hardware only dropped 6% instead of 30+% like it usually does) The point still stands despite what Genz Trends may go, first party and compelling games sell hardware and software still. Sony's financial quarter is an example of this, of what lower First party output looks like.

No matter they'll be right back on track in due time any time especially with DS2 (not my type of game but I know many like it) and Yotei. They're not Xbox and let things get bad for so many years on end.

crazyCoconuts45d ago

"I'm showing examples of the importance of first party output. "
First party is mostly relevant for the sole purpose of creating EXCLUSIVES that are needed to stay competitive. With Xbox consoles collapsing and no more Xbox exclusives, first party is way less important. PlayStation as a platform now has free reign to profit without the high expense of needing exclusive first party titles.

red2tango45d ago

Sony has been very lazy with 1st party games compared to the PS4 era. And even the PS4 era was nothing compared to the PS3 era in terms of games.

S2Killinit44d ago (Edited 44d ago )

We have Ghost and Intergalactic coming. And then Marathon which is not exclusive to PlayStation. I think Covid and that chip shortage put a speedbump in game development because game manufacturers dont want even more risk that their game will arrive to too little hardware, but the games are starting to show up.

Lightning7744d ago

"With Xbox consoles collapsing and no more Xbox exclusives, first party is way less important."

Absolutely not. If that was the case then Nintendo would put Mario on Sega Genesis and Sonic on Super Nintendo. I know things are way different 30+ years later but not much has really changed in terms of exclusives and their impact on hardware. Especially early in the console life cycle.

Sony made all the money this quarter handover fist. Profits isn't a issue for them right now. I was just saying lower hardware sales and lower first party sales will hurt them or any console manufacturer of they don't have the compelling games in the long run. Just like it hurt Xbox. IF Sony keeps up not having lower first part output. Which we know they're not.

crazyCoconuts44d ago

Well no big exclusives in the last two years yet PS is doing great. What are people gonna do? Buy an Xbox?

S2Killinit44d ago

I agree with you. But they have had plenty of exclusives so far. Has it been ideal? Nope. I have a feeling we are seeing a resurgence with the effects of covid and that chip shortage now behind us.

Lightning7744d ago

No it's just like 360 where they had no games yet ppl still bought it because they sold ppl on the games early on that gen the fans were locked in and invested. They were riding the good will and was dubbed the shooter, racer box. The games dried up and they never recovered from it which hurt them in the long run. Same here with PS they still make the big bucks because they had games early on and the fans locked in and will continue to lock in for a little while longer despite lacking in first party.

S2Killinit44d ago (Edited 44d ago )

I agree. But the problem with xbox was that for some crazy reason MS thought game development wasnt all that important to a platform holder. They literally did not fund games with their own studios. When they lost marketshare they couldnt justify paying for exclusives with large install bases making it too expensive. That is not the scenario with PlayStation.

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