Assassin's Creed AI Better on 360?

We've suspected Assassin's Creed was coming to Xbox 360 ever since its E3 unveiling, but only recently did Ubisoft disclose the poorly-kept secret to the world. What's even strange is that the Xbox 360 version will actually sport better crowd artificial intelligence, according to a report on IGN.

"While the PlayStation 3 and 360 versions of Assassin's Creed are virtually identical, Raymond did say that on the 360 the team is putting a special emphasis on achievements. The hardware also allows for improved threading, which will improve even further the crowd AI," the impressions read.

[zypher]

http://ps3.ign.com/articles...

thats from the sources mouth. i'm no technical whiz, but there have been too many developers commenting on how the PS3's CPU (Cell) is superior to 360's CPU...while the 360 has a slightly better GPU. seeing how AI in a game would probably be handled by the CPU, this little nugget of an off-hand comment from Raymond is kinda hard to swallow.

[sparco]

Sure, the Cell processor may be superior, but it was put in the ps3 to make it more like a computer, whereas the 360's was put in there for games. And games is the reason we buy these consoles.

Please dont get the idea that im a fanboy, i am not on any side. Just givin my oppinion.

[calderra]

Does no one here actually READ the article described before posting? "The request contains an illegal URL." <-Link no workie.

Before you post, claiming that you know what you're talking about, get educated:

-PS3's Cell is technically superior... when it comes to "straight" mathematical computations. There have always been questions about how it will work for games. (see also: debates on Intel versus AMD processors- same thing)

-Yes, this can be overcome with some programming tricks. But considering Cell's 8 SPEs, one of which uses slightly different programming... that's a big, complicated job.

-The 360 has 6 completely symmetrical cores, and is set up with a lot of additional assets to make pushing assets around much easier (see: large amounts of "general"/shared memory, unified shader architecture, etc). PS3 basically has none of these bits in hardware to help programmers, short of some basic software help that's been rumored to be included in the SDK.

-Not only can you dedicate one core to a specific task, but each core can run two "threads" of processing at once- meaning you can dedicate only half a core when necessary. And again- with symmetrical cores and lots of smart hardware to move tasks around, it's easy to respond when one thread is getting clogged and another one needs to be used for pressing tasks.

[TheMART]

Well the PS3 GPU is just too freaking expensive to get to work properly. That's why they probably don't even try. 5 x the costs to get it done compared to the nice programming 360 environment.

But nice to see they are able to see graphic wise they are equal, but the AI will be better on 360. That will make the better version then

[power of Green]

http://www.1up.com/do/newsS... sorry about the BS my Pc's sick. It's flashing and acting strange NNNNOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!.

[USMChardcharger]

No surprise really. when you can use one whole core for just A.I. like in CoD2. A.I. on that game at hard is unreal.

[DT Crisis315]

surprise really ?? no

[Dancryer]

Link seems to be down for me ...

The request contains an illegal URL.

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[BOOSTIN]

PWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[2tired2day2hate]

cuase ill be getting it for 360, but how much of a difference will this really make? i love to hear things like this since everyone has ms as the underdog all the time, but i wonder how much this will effect the gameplay or how noticible it will be.

[power of Green]

I don't know but the cpu having freed up power to do whatever with the games AI, makes the 360 very agressive & sneeky at time's, its scary. I have not been angry at a console for ever. If you're good enough you can make it freez from fighting with it. Sometimes you just have to turn it off and play later hoping the thing forgets. J/K lol

[jiggajayp]

http://www.ps3.justgotowned...

[Jay da 2KBalla]

Well zypher a developer that actually develops games that actually works for a game company said 360 is more suited for A.I. You can say what you want but it is what it is.

Sorry.

[power of Green]

Is key to what Microsoft wanted with their new Xbox.

[headblackman]

i am now truely certain that i made the right choice by purchasing an xbox360 :) keep the good games comming.

[shortyNZ]

So looks like this game will play better on the 360, so much for all the ps3 ppl saying there version would be better. And as for games go I can only think of one game id like for ps3 and thats motorstorm, I do hav to say tho that game looks good and looks fun, but not worth paying $600 for a next gen dvd player just to play 1 game. seems 360 has all the games in Gears of war, Halo 3, Halo wars, Kameo, banjo kazooie 3, Viva pinata, Perfect dark zero, Dead riseing, Lost planet, Blue dragon, Lost oddessy, Mass effect, Alan wake, Forza 2, PRG4, and games not long released as pc and 360 only r Bioshock, Elevon, Splinter cell 5, so ps3 fans look at these games and see who has the beta games, I think Sony has About 5 exclusive games , but none r any that I see as interesting. :)

[SDS Overfiend]

Xbox 360, Get Down Or Lay Down.

[drewdrakes]

This isnt a big deal. It will be barely noticable. Also, to all wondering, this is because the Cell is superior in math calculations, such as physics, etc. Whereas the Xenon is better for GPP (general purpose programming), which makes it good for anything (not specifically as excellent at math as the Cell, however, still good though).

[Stone Cold SA]

You are just proving to everyone how sad and pathetic you MS fanboys are by celebrating about a lame piece of news like this, which isin't even official, if anything don't you think it's the case seing MS has all these great developing tools that the 360 version is mabye, just mabye a little more complete than the PS3 version, that's why they might have inproved AI, anyway yous are just acting sad because you are scared PS3 is gonna wipe the floor with yous for a second time and there will be no excuses for loosing this time for MS, of course MS fanboys feel secure right now because Sony production is really slow right now, but they will have like 2M by the end of the year so Xbox fanboys get over it!

[Grown Folks Talk]

why are they launching with 500,000? and once again. pay attention. NOBODY IS AFRAID OF A VIDEO GAME CONSOLE! have a nice day.

[sparco]

How can you call people pathetic and sad when your posting posts like that one? I feel so sorry for you. Getting all angry over the xbox 360 doing better than the ps3 in cirtain aspects. Why cant people just accept some facts. Especially when it's coming from the games Producer.

[TR0N]

Lets see here. This game has some of the most realistic graphics ever and the devs said that the game looks identical on both consoles. This proves that the 360 can go toe to toe with the ps3. Now, this news shows that the 360 can even do somethings better. But still you continue to call us fanboys which is very ironic. In some other posts you have mentioned some of your favorite games, even going as far as to say that WARHAWK will kill MASS EFFECT. You must be deranged. Did you even see the silly animations in warhawk, the characters run around like bunny rabbits. And the trees look like crap. Also the ammo pickup points float unrealistically like if the game was from the Dreamcast generation. But i guess thats to be expected because most PS games have weird premises anyways. A couple of examples are Lair and Fatal Inertia, they may look good graphics wise but they are weird games. Face it, sony fans have bad taste in video games. So you have no room to call us anything because you are the quintessential fanboy.

[Stone Cold SA]

When did i ever say Warhawk look brilliant or was one of my faviorite games and next this is just a classic example of how you Xrat fanboys get in a rage about nothing, basically you bash every piece of PS3 news good or bad, yet the second someone brings up a valid point about the 360 it's aparently wrong and shouldn't be aloud, well let me tell yous that your time is comming to put up or shut up, that is if your Xbox hasen't already burnt your house down, i'm actually considering getting one for the winter to cut down on gas bills. Also i think Xbox owners might be gun happy people considering they love FPs so much, nothing new in that genre, or that could be the biggest load of nonsense ever, but as i say if you wanna start talking crap about the PS3 i have no problem bashing the Xbox 360!

[sparco]

Listen to yourself. Read your comments. You go on about how xbox fanboys "get in a rage about nothing", yet your doing it yourself now. Notice how YOU are "getting in a rage" on a news post about the xbox360 doing something better than the PS3. You said in another story that when the ps3 comes out the xbox fanboys will have to put up or shut up. Well why dont you do the same now? Fact is, the 360 handles AI better than the PS3. And that came from the games producer's mouth. So "put up or shut up".

[shortyNZ]

be glad your gettin the game at all, im sure it coulda become another xbox exclusive...dont make me list all the sweet games we have got allready it would take far too long! but you got blu ray aye thats all that matters :) just like mini disc and umd and all that other next gen stuff sony puts out...

[shortyNZ]

be glad your gettin the game at all, im sure it coulda become another xbox exclusive...dont make me list all the sweet games we have got allready it would take far too long! but you got blu ray aye thats all that matters :) just like mini disc and umd and all that other next gen stuff sony puts out...

[DC RID3R]

BEEFCAKE console.

ALL muscle, but no brains!!!!
an orc (lotr) springs to mind!!!!

asking the machine to process information is fine, brilliant in fact. But when asked to actually think for itself, THATS like opening the pandora's box with the ps3, and a WHOLE lot of strange things start to occur!!!!!

HARDCORE

[xbox360migs]

While the PlayStation 3 and 360 versions of Assassin's Creed are virtually identical, Raymond did say that on the 360 the team is putting a special emphasis on achievements. The hardware also allows for improved threading, which will improve even further the crowd AI.

[Sexius Maximus]

Sony fanboys were saying that AC was too advanced and will never be a 360 game. Not only is it a 360 game, but it turns out it's even better on Microsoft's machine. If Sony fanboys can't see the 360's superiority over the PS3, I suppose it will serve them right to spend $800+ (taxes, game, extra controller) on an inferior system. Let them believe as they wish, they'll look stupid in the end. (actually, most already do. This game is the perfect example)

[BRUTUS]

Yes yes yesterday xbox360 was without hddvd and today they suggest to buy hddvd tomorrow will tell that it is necessary to change the chip and as a result it will appear that you have spent much more than ps3..

[ASSASSYN 36o]

Run sony-boys go get that 360.

[BRUTUS]

xbox is a yesterday tech,there no even nextgen format who will bye the xbox 360 the poor boy from a farm ..

[Sexius Maximus]

I have no idea what you just said. Although it roughly sounds like a PS3 fanboy comment. But then again, you probably are 7 years old and have terrible social skills, so I can't blame you for your horrid attempts at communicating intellectually.

[Stone Cold SA]

Just exactely how do you know what age someone is, do you have mind reading powers, no you just like to make up your own conclusions about things, like the PS3 for instance, and when someone tears into the Xbox 360 that means they are lame or a child in your eyes, but yet all you Xbox fanboys are allowed to bash PS3, so STFU for a change, in fact welcome chang3!

[Sexius Maximus]

Moron. I'm a huge PS3 fan. A game can rock regardless of system. But it's pathetic how people get so defensive about a piece of hardware that will be outdated in 2 years (or sooner) I'll may buy a PS3 when they get cheaper. But for NOW, the 360 is superior and cheaper. I'll jump in now, and welcome change later, IF Sony can prove they're worth it.

[Stone Cold SA]

How people get so defensve over 1 console, especialy Xthugs, they make the worst points and arguments, ver far fetched, worst case scenarios, so please Xthugs give it up, PS3 is the future get with it, welcome the chang or prepar to sufter!

[sparco]

Xthugs? How Sad.

You're telling people its sad to get defensive over one console, but thats exactly what I've seen you do. I have not heard 1 positive comment about the 360 from you. You're pathetic.
Hear that xbox fans? The Rock says you will -and i quote- "Sufter".

BTW Sexius maximus, i totally aggree with ya m8. The fanboyism has to stop. Its so pathetic to read.

[BRUTUS]

Obviously

[Sexius Maximus]

BRUTUS, if you are actually a kid, I apologize for my rudeness. If you are an adult, then you're still a moron. If, you're an adult that doesn't know English very well, I again, apologize for my rudeness. Lets just keep on gaming, and let's keep the comments relevant. (unless it has anything to do with The Rock. He needs to know what a douche he is)

[power of Green]

It's a war zone in here. You PS3 fans should be happy with the edges PS3 has over the 360, You know like space so you can watch all that badass CGI. Every console has it's strenths It's just that Microsoft chose the game experiance over Japanese style story telling don't get mad at the 360 "playas" call MS up and vent on them. Leave MS's arcade in the home style be. Welcom3 chang3 and to the future of gaming "JUMP-IN"

[FeralPhoenix]

Iam very happy with my 360, but I'm a gamer so I plan on getting a PS3 later when the price drops. It's sad that so many Sonyfanboys can't give credit where credit is do. I think Sonyfanboys like the Rock add to jokes like Sonyfanboys having 10 second memory's like goldfish, 'cause another fanboy just accused me of over-using the term fanboy and then calling me one himself.

[Marriot VP]

Look guys, a "gamer" DOESN'T NEED to purchase all three systems. MOST people can only afford one, and normal people only buy 200 dollar consoles.

Feral I noticed you said your a gamer so therefore your purchasing a PS3. But just remember that the majority can only afford one console at 200 bucks.

[power of Green]

If you play cards, GAmes or Vids you're a gamer. (GAMER) "one who plays games". Look it up. Prefference for one game or console doesn't mean you're not a gamer as if thats something to be proud of. Nerds and geeks twisted the meaning to make their hardcore(GAMER) life style seem inportant.

[bohemian 23]

That dude is loser and he's full so full of $hit his eyes are turning brown!

[Theonetheonly]

since the beginning developers on both consoles as well as those developing games for both have stated that the "general architectural arrangement" of the 360 allows for better AI due to the fact that the 360 has very long sets of branch predictors ( basically what the cache on the cpus is used for)
the branch predictors look for similar code and pull from the cache rather than reprocessing the same code over and over freeing up clocks.
the ps3 has some of this on the single general purpose core but is nonexistant on the sp(e-u)s
because it would bog down the cpu due to the streaming nature of its architecture.

[ACE]

this dosnt suprise me as i new this along time ago . now wheres that fool DJ ?.

hiding hmmmm i wonder y?

is it cos every thing u say or have said has been proven wrong