Wii U's GPGPU Squashes Xbox 360, PS3; Capable Of DirectX 11 Equivalent Graphics

CinemaBlend: "All that talk about the Wii U being “weak”, “underpowered”, and not capable of outputting graphics like the Xbox 360 or PS3, is apparently hogwash. Unity Technology's CEO David Helgason squashes the rumors by acknowledging just how far the Wii U's tech can scale and what developers will be capable of utilizing with the Unity alone."

[chukamachine]

Still means nothing.

dx10 meant nothing, dx11 early games barely used it, and most games still don't use it enough.

People seem to think i hate nintendo, i don't. Friends play mario and i've played many games on the Wii.

Do i think the WII U is a massive jump over PS3/360.

No and you'll see this as games come and go, by 2014 you'll be seeing PS4/720, there you will see the jump.

If you love the new controller from ninty and need mario, you will buy a wii u.

[Griffin4871]

We all appreciate you taking the time to time travel just so you can come back and let us know that.

[HammadTheBeast]

Looks like you squeezed in with him.

[FriedGoat]

No need to buy, will be emulated in 1 year.

[HappyGaming]

The jump between PS2/Xbox and Wii is similar to PS3/360 and Wii U...

It worked for them last time so they are trying the same tactic again lets see how it goes.

Edit: Also if I was thinking about buying a Wii U (which I wont because I am waiting for PS4 and 720 to come out before I decide) I would be very cautious about how much Nintendo will focus on hardcore gamers. Zombie U looks great but I do not feel like games like that will be Nintendos main focus.

[AsimLeonheart]

Nintendo fans again grasping at straws; twisting an ambiguous statement into their favour. Why are you people so hell bent on proving that WiiU is more powerful than the 7 year old PS360? WiiU is not competing against them for market share. If you think it is then it is already almost 70 million units behind each of them. The Wii was severely underpowered and gimmicky with loads of shovelware but you guys still defended that as well and were even proud. You guys did not care about graphics at that time then how come you guys have become such "graphic whores" like us PS360 owners? :/ If you still want to talk graphics then just wait for the PS4 and XBOX 720 and then we will talk about who crushes whom. Then again you guys will just go back to saying "graphics dont matter you graphic whores! Gameplay and review ratings does! Look at us we have the best gameplay in the world as we play the ugly looking, rehashed and stagnant but highly rated 200th Mario and Zelda game." Oh and cant forget the GREAT gameplay of the Nintendo exclusive shovelware. LOL!

[stragomccloud]

@AsimLeonheart
It's not that they've become graphics whores, it is that it is frustrating when people make claims that it is not as powerful, when it is in fact more powerful. Like how the same people claimed that the Wii was not as powerful as PS2 or Xbox, when in fact was quite a bit more powerful. Just nothing compared the the PS3/360.

[chrisarsenalsavart]

That is the all point. People who buy a nintendo is first and foremost for playing nintendo games and in order for nintendo to grab the core audience(the cod, fifa, assassin creed .....Kind of players) they will have to show to thirdparty publishers that wiiu can be more than just a gap between the current and next gen.

But to be honest, i don,t think sony wll go crazy on ps4 cost either. I think they will try to build something eith good specs but mostly something that can make money straight away.

After the slow adoption of the ps3 and vita at launch Kaz hirai knows that content will makethe difference in the next battle, not power.

[AllSystemsRocks]

no not Mario will make me buy a Wii U but Zombi U will !

[NewMonday]

it's the 360 vs PS3 graphics all over again

[Tonester925]

Lens Of Truth is about to boom come release of Multiplatform games! Lol

[linkenski]

My PC has direct 11 graphical capabilities... yet games are like slideshows.

[dogoodmatters]

Betting on when DX11 will be standard probably. Nintendo sees one now, upped it a little, and will play the wait and see game. They waited for HDTVs to be more "standard" and are probably thinking the same with DX11?

[milohighclub]

My PlayStation broke beyond repair recently and I was dying to get another for the last of us. I've been a massive PlayStation fan since ps1 and was waiting for the new slim to be released but I may actually just get a Wii u for now and wait til the goty version of tlou before buying a new ps3 as the price will have dropped and the last of us will be the complete version.

[NewMonday]

the good WiiU stuff will not come till 1-2 years

it will make more sense to get a new PS3 now and the WiiU later

[andibandit]

Your disagrees suggest you must get a ps3

[nirwanda]

It depends on how many PS3 games you own or play online with friends or even if you own an xbox too, there is little dought the wii U will be slightly better than the PS3 and will definatly give you change from the games you find on the PS3/xbox.

[milohighclub]

Thing is there's only TLOU I'm really bothered about Thats an exclusive. all the rest are multiplat so id rather play them with the best possible graphics. Also the ps3 will probably get another price cut before the last of us And In my opinion its more logical to wait a few more month as ive already owned 2 ps3s and would ideally owant to spend as little as possible on it.

[Gamer1982]

*Yawn* You notice no serious sites with credibility ever makes these kind of claims?

[AAACE5]

You do realize current gen consoles cant run dx 11 right? Also, you guys need to remember that ram was the main issue for ps3 and 360. The cpu could be managed and the gpu could be manipulated.

[ninjabake]

Please feel free to name some games on PS3/360 running directX11

[avengers1978]

then were are all the games that show a huge leap. The problem here as it has been since the Wii U started being talked about is the comparison to 360/PS3 when the real comparison will be PS4/720... lets see how it stacks up to those machines.

[xtremeimport]

Comparison between the WiiU, xbox and ps3 shouldnt even exist.
The WiiU is a next gen console, it should be obvious that its more powerful than the current consoles. The fact thats its not is what causes people to speculate on just how powerful it actually is.

[kikizoo]

Oh look, another stupid article from cinemablend..

ps : "MS got the right combination"

for easiest devellopment, ok, but the ps3 powerfull cpu made the prettiest games this gen.

[donman1]

Since you went into the future and came back with knowing the PS4 and Xbox720 is going to crush the WiiU. Can you also tell us the price? Since with that advancement in specs I am sure it will not be cheap so those of us who believe in you can start saving up from now.

The bottom line is WiiU will be first time in a long time Nintendo stepped out the box and is bringing something fresh, innovative and with a wealth of entertainment value. My pre-order is already set. I cannot wait. Till then I will enjoy my PS3.

[SilentNegotiator]

We've already seen the WiiU run Batman:AC and AC3. They're 720p native and have little or no AA. Their framerates might be better but what we saw was no 60fps. You can scream about the games not being "finished" yet (as if a MASSIVE graphical leap always takes place between running footage of a game and the final product) and the games being early (As if launch ps3/360 games ran at 480p), and about them being ports (because they just got "lazy" about doing something as simple as raising the native resolution to 1080p if the WiiU could even handle it, right?) but let's not kid ourselves....

The GPU is only slightly stronger and the CPU has been outed by developers as being WEAKER.

It's not a generational leap. And this time, it's price is at a disadvantage with the other systems, which are only slightly weaker in graphics to a degree that hardly anyone will notice (and higher in CPU power).

The success of WiiU will be ENTIRELY based on their ability to make interesting uses of the tablet controller that anyone cares about and living off of their IPs (Mario might be popular, but it didn't save the Gamecube).

Now go ahead; call me a troll, fanboy, whatever. But when something is oversold and sensationalized like this, I'm going to be there, whether you like it or not.

[hennessey86]

May well be good, but from what I have read. The CPU brings the WiiU back down to PS3/360 levels of power.

[PopRocks359]

I'd buy that if I wasn't already made aware that the GPGPU can take some of the load off of the CPU.

[WeskerChildReborned]

Agreed.

[Malice-Flare]

in which case, the new games will not take advantage of the GPU's new features due to it doing some CPU stuff to compensate for the same weak CPU...

the reverse of the PS3 where a weak GPU is compensated for by a powerful CPU...

MS got the right combination the first time by being balanced: a reasonably powerful CPU with a reasonably powerful GPU, and quite easier to develop for due their experience in development software...

[Jockamo]

...you had me at "irregardless". :/

[Shok]

To be more accurate, the actual statements regarding the Wii U's CPU is it's "slower." When it comes to console CPU's (and even PC's to a certain extent), clock speed =/= power.

The Wii U's CPU has a much more efficient architecture. so it doesn't require such high clock speeds as it can do work much easier and more efficiently. Not to mention, like you said, it has a GPGPU.

People will call it damage control but that's the hard facts lol.

[PopRocks359]

Thanks for the clarification. I wasn't too sure about the specifics regarding the CPU. This makes it a lot clearer though.

[donman1]

@Shok,

You hit the nail on the head. Very valid points you made. The bottom line is the WiiU is next gen. PS4 and Xbox720 will be more powerful but the difference will not be that great. For those that disagree always remember the cost factor. Are you willing to pay $500 or $600 for a console and is Microsoft/Sony (especially Sony) willing to bet that consumer will purchase their next gen consoles at that high price as early adopters. History shows (PS3) that it was a very bad bet.

[Nutsack]

They have yet to show a game on WiiUpgrade that touches visuals like The Last of Us, Puppeteer or God of War for example.

And the day they might reach it, 'knowing' WiiUpgrades hardware, by then real next gen already is out with Xbox 8 at the end of 2013 and PSOrbis somewhere in 2014.

Which will have CPU's that are really a generation ahead, and not some WiiUpgrade CPU that even is slower than current gen. The real next gen that will have GPU's that are leaps ahead of current gen and not just a tad newer than consoles that are launched in 2005/2006.

[Pillsbury1]

Did you have a traumatic incident involving a Nintendo system hitting ur nutsack when you where little? You really hate Nintendo.

[Nutsack]

Not really. I loved the NES, the SNES, heck, I was a N64 fanboy.

The SNES and N64 both pushed great games, N64 pushed 3D in games.

With the Gamecube a bit less already, with the Wii, which had basically overclocked Gamecube chips, Nintendo lost me as a gamer yes. Their focus became sh!t. The focus was put on selling hardware boxes the most, and not care for games. Same with them selling Wiifit hardware, Wiimote Plus hardware addon to fix the inaccurate Wiimote.

And now, the one touch bulky tablet is getting in gimmick control to sell the package again. Plus bringing the WiiUpgrade up to par with 360/PS3 that are 6 to 7 years old.

Thats what I dislike about Nintendo. They were great once. Now its only their 1st party games that are the same over and over again. Rehashing stuff to the max. Meh.

[Quetzll]

leaps ahead? we already have 3d games running in 1080p. you think next gen means 4th dimensional gaming where you control the game with your mind? or just more pixels?

dont know how many times it has to be said that a stronger GPU makes up for whatever the CPU is lacking.

and i think next gen is going to be more so what you can do with a game (sand-box type stuff) and not so much how many pixels it has. games will look better, yeah, but nowhere near the same leap as snes was to ps1/n64.

[IaussieGamer]

Yet with all this power they will never really be able to make the most of it due to the limited storage capacity of the Wii-U

[donman1]

You can add an external hard drive to the console. You are not limited to the internal flash memory. So storage will never be an issue.

[DivineAssault]

what uses this engine? phone & indie games? If i see a few good games actually achieve what hes claiming, ill consider buying one.. With great power comes great responsibility.. Its up to 3rd party to take advantage of these things & make the games i like.. Theres potential with everything thats out.. devs using that potential is whats missing

[neogeo]

I disagree.

[DivineAssault]

keep trolling me.. U bring about your own demise..

[violents]

That's hilarious, everyone is disagreeing that you disagree.

[YoungPlex]

The Wii U is in fact a more sophisticated and graphically more powerful console to date, that will bloom once the architecture is understood, and developers learn how to utilize the GPGPU to offset and maximize the efficiency of the CPU! You obviously live in a bubble, were you think that the Wii U isn't capable of so much more than these current consoles. You honestly think that developers will sit back and wait for the other next-gen consoles to roll out, and not develop anything for Wii U? Your the biggest fan-boy I've ever run across, next to the other 3 on this site!

Oh and because this guy disagrees with you, he's a troll? Please! If that's the case, then your the biggest troll for commenting and dissagreeing on everything I post!

[HalfNerdHalfAmazing]

Lmao

[thetorontokid]

Yea just like every dev, choose to develop for the dreamcast!!

[Kingnichendrix]

Well I should think so the PS3 and 360 have been out for a long time this is like saying, well guess what the ps3 and 360 squash the gamecubes graphics..

[sarshelyam]

Only time will tell, but put pen to paper and make the tech scream. Right now I'm not seeing anything in the launch window that any other console on the market couldn't handle without breaking a sweat, so to speak.

[GhostHero333]

Hope they actually use it to its full advantage. And I hope AAA games decide to go above and beyond on their games when it comes to the Wii u.

[DasBunker]

For a console that's a gen behind that's the least one would expect.

PS4 and next Xbox will crap on this.

[Statix]

Not sure why you're getting disagrees, but it's almost guaranteed that the PS4 and Xbox 720 will be much more powerful than the Wii U, based on leaked specs, devkits, and rumors alone.

Refer back to this comment in about 2 years when all the consoles have released, and we'll see who's right and who are the fanboys eating crow.

[krazykombatant]

almost guaranteed?? lool do you work at either of these companies and see what they plan to release???

[thebudgetgamer]

So this jist of this article is, a brand new console has more horse power than a six and seven year old console.

GTFOH
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[-Gespenst-]

That's all well and good, and I hope it'll be a good console. It'll likely do a lot better than the Wii.

But like, what about when the next Playstation and the next Xbox? They're probably due pretty soon, and they'll likely more powerful consoles.

[Bowzabub]

So brand new technology squashes 6-7 year old technology? Stop the press! Idiiocy.
Edit.. Budgetgamer beat me to the obvious.

[PygmelionHunter]

Still not obvious enough for N4G users if this was posted here, let alone the DOZENS of other articles that claim the same thing...

[glopez]

Look above you. The guy that posted first always trolls Nintendo articles. The dude/ chick must really have no life lmao!!! He/she is always first lol. To the point: you geniuses are the ones who keep comparing it to the ps3/360, so yes when it's proven that it's stronger STOP the presses so the trolls can read and go back to their bridge lmao j/s.

[Bowzabub]

Guy.. I hope and pray that the damned Wii U is 3 times stronger than the PS3 & X-Box.. Trust me, I plan on getting the Wii U when it lands. Hopefully now I'll get the HD Zelda game we have all been waiting damn near a decade for. Think it will happen? There are no excuses now right?

[firelogic]

These kinds of topics need to stop. The WiiU is coming out 6+ years after the PS360. Even if they wanted to make a weaker or equivalent system, it'd be damned hard to do. It's a foregone conclusion that it's more powerful than current-gen offerings.

The fact that it's up for debate just shows how far Nintendo's reputation has fallen due to their history of releasing overpriced, inferior tech.

[theaceh]

Agreed. I just can't seem to shake this belief that nintendo (as a brand) represents the cheap/inferior brand. Nintendo's real battle is a a battle of perception, not specs.

[FarCryLover182]

I would hope it does, this is a console in 2012. Those are consoles that released in the mid-00's. Uh, this should happen. Big deal.

[Straightupbeastly]

Sony fans getting scurred. Can't ride the uncharted train forever, sony must bring something new to the table before Sony fans lose their marbles

[ballzdeep]

The Last of Us says hi!

[ape007]

ummm MGS GZ Crysis 3, Halo 4, GTA V says YO YO YO

[one2thr]

Scarred at what exactly?
The PS3 is at the very edge of its life cycle and yet Sony announced more rhan 5 new ip's at Gamescom... Heck it wouldn't be a surprise if 8 days or The Getaway are launch titles for the next Sony home console, and by going by what they had so fair for Ps3, it should be Wii U owns that should be scarref if Sony continues to follow their successor consoles bring 10 timed mote powerful than there previous console trend...
Ex. PS2 10x more than Ps1
PSVita 10x more than PSP
PS3 10x more than PS2
So imagine a home console that is 10x more powerful than a PS3(if possible, at a reasonable price too)
Then what would be the reason for any Sony or even MS fan to be afraid of a Wii U in terms of visuals,AI, gameplay, etc.?
(P.s. I hate my phone)

[Pillsbury1]

You're really gonna deny ALL the exclusives Sony has had? Mgs4, killzone, god of war, gran turismo, jak and daxter, the last of us, beyond and hopefully the last guardian? Really?

@ ape007 most of those you listed are multiplatform so I really don't understand what kind of point you're trying to get across. Thanks.

[thetorontokid]

Scared of a console called wii! Just saying!
All the power to Nintendo fans, finally stepping into the hd era! But come on, Nintendo lost their groove along time ago.

[kasser]

Wii U vs PS3&360 ? How about a Wii U vs PS4 and Next-Xbox ?

I believe the Wii U is a quick cash-in for Nintendo since it will be available before any new nextgen hardware. Their strategy may win them the sales battle (again) but in terms of higher quality gaming machine, we are pretty sure either of Sony/Microsoft will pull it off in terms of graphics, online gaming and entertainment capabilities.

The question is, how big the gap will be between Nintendo and the competition? Hardware technology nowadays is scary, and neither Sony or Microsoft are afraid to harness it and go on-par or even beyond the PC capabilities.

[omegapower]

power doesnt matter newb.

You want the best entertainment? Correct me if I am wrong but the wii has more of the highest rated games of the gen than the ps3 or 360 have exclusively.

The wii u preorders are sold out everywhere, you cant freaken get one

The wii u has already won in japan and the us

[kasser]

I don't care and I did not state that Sony\Microsoft will outsell the WiiU. I don't care if a Nintendo product is soldout or not because I have 0 interests in playing Nintendo games.

I am speaking in terms of technology, how big the gap will be between WiiU and the upcoming hardware. Don't try to convince me that technology isn't important or otherwise, why Nintendo were showing off their "processing power" and making it a 1080p res device.

If you have no clue about what I am talking about, go see Crysis 3 "DirectX11 PC-only Footage" then come back and tell me that can be played on WiiU.

[modesign]

its cute people think the wiiu is next gen. haha whatever helps you sleep at night

[topgeareasy]

DX 10.1 lol

game Devs use 9 or 11

10 is irrelevant

[Irishguy95]

You are right, DX10 was an odd entity that no one really cares about hehe, but DX11 is beasht.

[DEATHxTHExKIDx]

how are they gonna compare a new console to 6/7year old consoles?!

[IHateYouFanboys]

i cant help but laugh at how fixated on theoretical specs and graphics the N4G crowd is. all i can say is thank god that the general public in no way reflects N4Gs intelligence or opinions.

the wii was an enormous step behind the PS3/360 in both theoretical peak power, graphical output, and feature lists. it has some of the best games of the generation and absolutely destroyed both the PS3 and 360 in sales. the Vita wipes the floor with the 3DS in terms of specs and graphics and features. the 3DS wipes the floor with the Vita in terms of games and sales.

the reality is that graphics and specs mean next to nothing to the general public. they dont care if the wii u's cpu is "only" as good as the PS3 and 360s. they didnt care that the Wiis CPU was incredibly inferior. they just dont care about 99% of the things people on here argue about, and rightly so because most of it means very little in the real world.

[omegapower]

graphics and specs mean less than nothing when it comes to sales or library

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Wow people can't consider the fact the Wii U's GPU is stronger than the PS360's. The Wii U isn't even using anything "brand new" in there hardware, rather an update on what the PS30 currently uses.

I can see graphics looking slightly better on the Wii U. That's fine In all, but in the long run I'm afraid "slightly better" won't matter in this gen of consoles. The talk will be about the 720 and PS4 whenever they make there debut.

[XXXL]

To counter the ps4 and xbox 720 the Wii U will offer an eventual add on so we can watch VHS tapes!!! Than they'll offer an "upgraded" ocarina of time witch will actually be a direct port from the 3DS

[ame22]

We'll have to play the game of time to see.

[ape007]

i don't know how in the blue hell u got a disagree, here's an agree

[spike]

If your a kid get a Wii U. I pre ordered mine but that is for my daughter. I'm not really going to play it unless its a game that me and my daughter can enjoy as a family. When the PS4 comes out that system will be all mine. Kids don't care about how the game looks, they care about the fun factor. Adults are the ones whining about the Wii U not being a next gen console.

[ape007]

well Zelda NEXT GEN, metroid NEXT GEN, mario NEXT GEN, smash , kart etc... will make any adult go crazy for them

[metroid32]

Wiiu has open gl 4.1 so even dx12 features can be ported graphics on wiiu are equal to ps4 FINAL.

[Tornadobounce]

Meh whatever. I still want to play it.

[ballzdeep]

Agreed!
Pre-ordered and paid in full!
November cant come soon enough

[stuntman_mike]

they are using a modified E6760 AMD's first gpgpu.

http://www.techpowerup.com/...

ive posted this before but click the picture at the bottom and you will get the full specs for it, seems way more powerful than the x360 and PS3 graphic solutions.

[ballzdeep]

Nice find, thnx for the link
Honestly, most of that sh!t went right over my head
But whatever, zombiu looks great and looks hella fun
Cant wait

[Irishguy95]

Basically it is alot more powerful, but Nintendo are ****ing themselves over this gen again, when PS4 and 360 come out...Wii U will be left behind for multiplats again. But they can still take 360 and Ps3's multiplats and 'improve' them somewhat so who knows. Nintendo sit alone in their own little world for this gen and last gen imo. Whatever works for them though hehe/ They'll still make the most money

[wiz7191]

All I know is nobody on these comment feed is a developer or anything close to it everybody keep talking about its this and that .. Until you actually get into a game studio and develop a game for this machine you will never know what its capable of doing or what under the hood no matter how many specs they release. Need to stop with the bashing and just play the game , either you buy it or you dont plain and simple.

[3GenGames]

I develop NES games, does that count? If so, my $0.02:

The GPU just seems okay to me. It's about standard mid-range PC tech. It's not complete shit at all, the optimizations they'll give it over PC will make a solid system once they get familiar with it. It won't be a PS4/360 killer, but it'll be a huge upgrade from what we have still. Good programmers should be able to make that card seem just like high-end cards though if they have enough talent. It has enough RAM for the textures to pull off some good stuff IMO. Oh well, we'll see. Maybe if we're lucky...it'll use Linux kernel. Then we'll see a big increase in hardware for the same system running Microsofts OS or Sony's OS. That'd be great.

[metroid32]

Its a custom E6760 so it will be 25%/50% more powerful than stock version PERIOD.

[Yodagamer]

Just because the clock speed (might) be lower doesn't mean it's as powerful, the gamecube had half the clock rate of the original xbox and produced graphics almost on par with the xbox. It's not always the clockrate that determines the power, it's what it can do with it.

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

Best looking games on Gamecube I thought were RE0 and RE Remake...

Metroid and others I can imagine would've looked pretty awesome but the art styles hindered them from truely looking Xbox good!

Awesome games no doubt, with my view on graphics aside!

[wishingW3L]

the best thing about Metroid Prime was its terrific art-style... 0_O

[thetorontokid]

Resi remake on GameCube had prerendered backgrounds, that's why it looked so sharp. Technically not a grafix beast of a game, looked very nice none the less.

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

Should be way more powerful than 360 and PS3? no brainer that it SHOULD be...

But DirectX11 graphics I'd imagine SHOULD be standard at the LEAST for Next-Gen consoles considering it has already been a PC benchmark for long enough now!

[Dms2012]

Why do I get the feeling that fanboys are only going to get worse next gen?

[ATi_Elite]

1. Takes a break from playing Guild Wars 2 to glance at more WiiU drivel.

2. Sees that Ninty has yet to post specific Wiiu GpGPU specs.

3. Goes back to playing Guild Wars 2 and pays this article no mind.

The Wiiu being capable of DX11 kinda confirms that the Wiiu is more powerful than the 7 year old consoles that have only a few DX10 features.

The Wiiu has some form of a HD4000 series GPU in it which totally KILLS the Gpu's in the current consoles but i guess Nintendo loves these "Wiiu less powerful than current Gen consoles" articles.

[vortis]

Good point.

I don't understand all the Wii U hate articles circulating and Nintendo doing diddly squat to counterattack them.

[slimpickens]

I'm looking forward to the Wii U but fear MS and Sony will follow there lead this next generation by making similar powered systems.

[GrahamGolden]

similar?

they will crush it in the tech department with ease and style

[hano]

Honestly, it doesn't matter to me how much powerful it is.

It looks cool and innovative. As long as they make good games and it gets a lot of love from developers then I don't mind. In fact, that was the only thing missing for the original Wii.

If Nintendo stays close minded as always then it will be just another Wii.

[LordHiggens]

Nintendo is in a class all their own...let's face it. They have their own fan base, the Wii U will do just fine. I myself am looking forward to ZombiU, COD Black Ops 2 and ACIII. As well as HD Mario and God willing an HD Starfox or F-Zero. Not to mention the Super Smash Bros. This console will do just fine, no it certainly won't be as powerful as the PS4 and the NextBox...but it doesn't need to be.

[ALaish]

It is so sad that the system that is designed and will be released at the end of THIS year, is technicaly compeared to the systems that were designed in 2004. and are on the market for almost a decade. Every argue about this is funny to say at least.

[GrahamGolden]

lol at nintendo fangirls
they r so happy to compare a new console with a 7 year old one haha

are that desperate ?

[taquito]

here's hopiing the wii u, within the first year of software makes console only gamers realize all halo, killzone and uncharted games look last gen, you'd know that already if you had a gaming pc

dx 11 though, really means piss-all

what the wii needs to be able to do is 1080p

4x-8x anti aliasing

ssao

real time hdr

16x af

soft shadowing....ect....ect...

things pc has been doing for years that make last gen ps3/360 games look downright awful with all the jaggies and sub-hd textures.

[HalfNerdHalfAmazing]

The Wii u will produce better graphics than the current gen but if u a graphics who re that's not gonna be good enough for u

[teabag-nation]

the snooze box and sony droid station lack imagination and creativity so a game like bayonneta stood out like a sore thumb, and now its a wii u exclusive haha

[Vitalogy]

Right, because comparing a "next-gen" console with "last-gen" consoles is really a fair comparison LOL I would love to see games like uncharted, the last of us, beyond that well made on the wii u like they're on the ps3.

Well I guess we'll have to wait for the next xbox and playstation and then we'll talk about who smashes who ;)

[Elda]

The Wii U is going to give us..I guess a slight taste of next generation & whose to even say that because we haven't even seen any next generation games graphically,the Wii U will have to show & prove,but I'm quite sure when the PS4 & Nextbox arives we'll just see what machine is next generation.

[Neko_Mega]

Not going to believe it until I see it, simple as that. People told me the 360 was the best system in the world (Its not, PC is mostly. But owning them all is better) and it doesn't have any hardware problems like PS3 -_- I haven't had hardware problems on any model of the PS3 and yet I have had alot of problems on each 360 model.

You can't believe what everyone says, because it could be bs or in 360/PS3 it could be a 54%/11% fail.

[SabreMan]

With a Nintendo console it's not about graphical power it never has been, it's about innovation.

[Blacklash93]

All this bickering surrounding the Wii U is only the beginning of a new console war. Prepare yourselves because it's only going to get worse once the rest of the new generation starts rearing up.

[Britainz-Fin3st]

People make me laugh.
Ofcourse the Wii U will be better then the current xbox and playstation.

Look how much newer it is.
Nintendo will enjoy having games on par and better then ms and sony UNTILL the next xbox and playstation are released.

But to be perfectly honest, im not bothered about the new wii, partly because i couldnt give a f*ck how good the next mario or pokemon game will look.

Give me the next God of War or next halo or gears.

[Ziggomatic]

Not sure how they managed to make this article out of a fairly non-committal and very general comment.

I think few people doubt that the graphics chipset in the Wii U will be superior to the PS3 and 360. The fact that the games are actually running in 720 or 1080p instead of the lower resolutions that many 360 games run in is testament to that.

The thing with boasting about DX11 functionality is that even though a card can do DX10 or 11 doesn't mean it can do it well enough to make it usable in a real game. My ATI HD 5670 can technically do tessellation, but at such low frame rates that it might as well not for all the difference it makes.

[Adolph Fitler]

Can somebody give us a link where Nintendo have announced the official specs?.
Fact is, if Nintendo haven't given the public & media official, solid specs.....then guess what? Something is drastically wrong, as it is only 1.5-2 months from release.

[Wizziokid]

It's amazing to see how sony and microsoft fanboys are teaming up against Nintendo on this and you know as soon as the PS4 and NextBox release they are going to go at it like wild dogs.

[XB1_PS4]

To tell the truth I've never been able to tell the 360, and ps3 graphics apart. Now more minuscule comparisons..

[ALLWRONG]

Well... duh!

[Mikito11]

Who cares if it's more powerful or not!
Vita has better graphics than 3DS and which one has fallen flat on its face?
And don't start that BS about its still a young system! You all dissed the 3DS when that had a slow few months!

Better graphics don't mean better games! Any real gamer knows that!

Anyway, let's just see what happens, not like any of us know the future, anything can happen in this industry

[Perjoss]

So much negativity in the comments, what are people afraid of, a better console for them to play games on? I don't understand.

So many people complained (myself included) that the Wii was too weak and practically last gen tech. Now that they try and release something decent people still complain. Relax, you will enjoy life more :D

[Britainz-Fin3st]

People arent complaining about them releasing a more powerful console, it seems people are "worried???" that this new console will replace there favored system.

To me this is pathetic, its only natural for this nintendo to out perform the current consoles, yet peoples insecure behaviour towards there ownn console, it is quite laughable.

[solidworm]

New console out-powers old consoles shocker...........lol what a bombshell...NOT.

[Insane087]

i wanna see some 1st party nintendo stuff using that power an f-zero game would look sweet skipped nintendo this gen

[fourthpersonview]

Isn't this what was said about PS3? That it is technologically superior to the Xbox 360 but it took years for it to catch up to the 360's sales and developer support.

[NYC_Gamer]

Wii-U should out power 7 year old consoles

[rataranian]

What about my Diamond Radeon 7970?

[PurpHerbison]

Hey! You are not allowed to bring that aluminum bat into this wiffle ball game!

[Vladplaya]

No shit, 360 and PS4 released decade ago... Anyone is surprised?

[Ayabrea123]

Why does this even matter. All this spec talk will eventually stop when we have the damn system in hand. It's really getting annoying to see, 'Wii u less powerful.. Then more powerful.' Like who gives? When the system officially comes out real world test will then smash all speculation. Done. And what is up with this website finding all these mom and pop blogs? Lol get some professional paid stuff, not some fanboy blog ranting

[Scenarist]

nintendo doesnt care...

the wii did great launching first with inferior hardware
the wiiU i think people are more informed and know how nintendo pulled off there gimmick last time

HOWEVER .. seeing the new controller and thinking about the new gameplay mechanics that will come with it

people will also say.. well im not buyin the wii for the graphics ..im buying it for the fun of the games that i hope will come out..

I think the wiiU will sell strong

the graphics are up there were they need to be for a nintendo console .. and Im buying one...maybe not Day1 .,, but im buying one

[Dits]

New technology is better than 7 year old technology shocker!

[coolmaster]

More than half a decade difference between PS3/360 and Wii U...I have nothing to add.

[andrewer]

For Nintendo, graphics are just an add-on...they don't need any high quality graphics to make a great game. Graphics is just a stupid fight that Sony wanted to start... PS4/Xbox 720 I think that they will be more powerful indeed, but for example I have an Wii and would never buy PS3/X360 even with the graphics being so simple in the Nintendo console.

[MadMen]

WiiU will fail. Enjoy the "leap in graphics" for about a yr.

Wii sales were through the roof but they also innovated, WiiU does not innovate, it wil fail in comparison to the Wii.

[Ninjamonkey82]

lolz at the manyz replys :D

[kevinsheeks]

Come on you guys it's that easy to bait you -.- i wonder is the article creator somewhere laughing right now -.-

[SITH]

At least Nintendo is on the right track, if it was 2005.

[metroid32]

Wiiu is comparable to dx11 in other words opengl4.1 so dx12 features can be added in the future plus no ps4 is going to get better graphics than wiiu as the wiiu already has the industry best the difference if any will be laughable at best.

[Ricdog]

Funny how people now act like its no suprise the Wii U is more powerful than the ps3 or 360. Earlier everyone was dissing the Wii U for being "on par" or even "below" the ps3 or 360 in terms of power.

Now that the Wii U is confirmed to be much faster and powerful than the ps3 and xbox, they act like its no big deal and say it was always expected. LOL

HATERS GONNA HATE!!!!

[Adva]

Lol at you.
Comparing a 7 year old technology to 2012.

I laugh at you kid.

[Ricdog]

Actually I never compared anything, it was the Nintendo haters that started the comparisons. And now they wanna back track.

Lots of people hated on the Wii U just weeks ago, claiming it was just on par or hardly better than current gen. They were the ones comparing 7 year old tech vs the Wii U. But now that the facts have come out showing the Wii U to clearly be superior to any modern console, they are acting like they new all along the Wii U would be more powerful.

Basically a lot of N4G members here a bunch of coward flip-flopping rats. People who can't stick to their guns and just accept they were wrong (or right), but instead change their views to fit whatever they want.

And everyone knows that there is nothing worse in this world than a traitor. Worse than liers, worse than rapists, worse than murderes. Theres a reason why flip-flopping traitor rats are said to be banned to the lowest circle of hell.

[corrus]

WII U maybe have 2GB ram but not have good video card and without good video card is nothing cos the most important thing is video card

[Nada Nuff]

Why, why, why are people still comparing WiiU with current-gen consoles?! The consoles we should be comparing it with haven't been announced yet!

[PurpHerbison]

Hopefully one day in the future there is just one console. One solid console. Whether it be just the PC, Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, or even something new. I just want ONE. That would eliminate so many of these pointless arguments. Why are we even comparing old consoles to a brand new one anyway? PC is already light years ahead of everything. Then the new consoles will drop and be light years ahead of whatever Nintendo is doing. All the while, PC is still light years ahead of everything. No matter what. The arguing needs to cease.

[SegataShanshiro]

I love comment on these kinds of articles.
for example
"New console completely DESTROY ps3's specs wit directX15 and 10 GB of RAM and the most advanced graphic card in the market and the best games out there!!!!! and at a price that you cannot say no to"
And the PS3 n4g bronies will STILL argue that the PS3 is way better

[AJBACK2FRAG]

Wow!

[yewles1]

Wow... an engine creator that just got a huge deal with Ninty that includes first party games is praising the Wii U's graphical potential... shocking...

[Father__Merrin]

this is perfect for those who want the next 2d/3d mario, mario kart, zelda, ssbm and pokemon

[Mikey Mike]

My Honda is equivalent to a Ferrari but it wont out perform it!

[kingPoS]

WII U = mid tier gaming pc

Who's to say developers won't be able to work miracles with 2gb of memory. The xbox & ps3 have a fourth of that and yet a majority of those users are satisfied.

[InTheZoneAC]

I don't care about the graphics, although I will say the Wii U is barely an upgrade over the current console tech.

I am highly considering buying my first nintendo console since the SNES days because there is actually a normal controller available for this system. And New Super Mario Bros U looks amazing.

And maybe one day we get a full 3d NORMAL pokemon game for the wii. Either make it look like DS or make it as good looking as possible on the wii u, just don't release those stupid pokemon spin-offs.

Exclusives are the only reason IMO to own a console. I have missed out on many great Nintendo games because I refuse to buy into their gimmicky controllers/consoles, but that may come to an end soon.

PS3/PS4 will be for Sony Exclusives and everything else.

[ILLINOIS]

The day nintendo is more powerful than the ps3 or xbox will be the last day of earth. Not buying it at all.

[Smokeeye123]

*BREAKING NEWS* Wii U better than 6 year old last generation consoles.

[KontryBoy706]

I don't believe it and won't until I see with my own eyes. There's not a system on the market at $349 that will be able to handle DX11 at 1080p with 60fps with full high graphical settings. If you want that... PC is the only platform. Point blank period. High end PC graphics cards alone costs more than the Wii U. Don't let yourselves get all hyped up off of propaganda and thinking the Wii U is going to be some ultra machine. Yes, I expect it to be better than PS3 AND 360... why the hell shouldn't it after 7 years? But... comparable to a PC? Hell no

[CyrusLemont]

The Galaxy S III's specs destroy the iPhone's, doesn't make it a better device. Not trying to start an argument, I'm simply using that analogy to explain that it's what you do with what you have that will ultimately define the outcome of your device. Don't judge the Wii U yet based on it's hardware specs, for all we know it could look better or it could look worse. We haven't really gotten a look at any Gold level titles yet. So hold your horses!