What is your definition of hardcore?
My definition of Hardcaore would be The Legend Of Zelda Ocarena Of Time. There are others as well but thats the 1st title that comes to mind. And for good reason. Pretty much the greatest example that I can come up with due to the difficulty level of the game. Along with the games refusal to hold your hand through tough situations. Forcing you to think and use your survival instinct. While at the same time pushing challenging puzzles, and crazy boss fights that go further than most of todays games. A lot of todays games pretty much do everything for you and scoot you along through the experience like a small child in his/her 1st day of school. Constantly giving you indicators as if you were playing with a permanent GPS, which I personally feels takes away from the adventure of an adventure title. While also offering a lot of auto platforming situations that dont really push the player to try a bit harder to reach a destination, and QTE for a stylish but very easy flair. Todays developers have clearly taken style over substance to deliver a movie like experience, but not enough rewarding or challenging gameplay. I would say that another good example of hardcore would be Nintendo Wii U entertainment system upcoming exclusive ZombiU. Another very unforgiving title that refuses to hold your hand. Rated E For Everyone
You don't give up do you....... Hardcore is really difficult to define. I do not see hardcore games as a separate genre/entity in gaming. I see mature games (with mature themes) and casual games and then a mixture of the two. To be frank you can be a hardcore gamer and still play social/casual games (amount of hours and money people put into these games). I guess the term Hardcore can be used for people who follow these sites and discuss stuff which again can apply to people who play social/casual games
Hardcore barely exists anymore. Quakeworld, quake 2, quake 3 arena, trackmania, Unreal tournament (the older ones) Kingpin, CS 1.6. nothing these days comes close.
@FriedGoat I have not played much quake, but Unreal Tournament is one of my favorite shooter franchises of all time. I play it on the PC often and have fingers crossed in hopes that EPIC is kind enough to bring the next iteration. Well any version of Unreal Tournament to the Nintendo Wii U entertainment system. Rated E For Everyone
"hardcore" gamer in origins means a gamer that obsessed and truly loves playing games, a gamer that appreciate niche quality games that get ignored by the masses, a gamer that would buy a console if he could even if he dont like the father company as long as the system provides good games for him and dont base his/her purchases by blind brand loyalty. thats the true meaning of a hardcore gamer IMO. now sadly the term has been altered and now means angry, whiny nerds bitching about everything they dont like, looking for sex and blood in their games to prove how much hardcore they are.
Your definition seems pretty spot on, but those new "hardcore" whiny bitches seem to disagree.
Bloody hell, it`s you Kaos. Playing UT2004 on kinserver. Haha. Love too see you there.
Hardcore is just a stupid term used by people to make themselves seem superior.
When it comes to people calling themselves "hardcore gamers" : Overly entitled brats.
U know something sidar, i really dislike u.. Just because other ppl dont share your same beliefs, they're overly entitled brats? Who the F**K are u?! I see all the cheap shots u throw at ppl cuz they have a different taste in games.. Are your tastes best?
And who are you to criticize me? Am I not entitled to my opinion? I never claimed my tastes is the best. Never will. Neither have I suppressed someones opinion to prioritize mine. Gamers today are a whiny bunch. That's how I experienced it for being here 6 years on n4g. Don't like my opinions on certain matters? Your problem. " I see all the cheap shots u throw at ppl cuz they have a different taste in games" Quote me. Quote me where I bash someone personally for their game taste.
agreed but i dont call ppl out their names.. If i debate someone, its with respect toward their opinion.. I dont belittle anyones thoughts or opinions.. Cheapshots by name calling is beyond disrespect & unnecessary on a gaming website.. If i dont agree, ill say it.. But i dont call ppl things because my opinion is different
Just because I express myself in such manner doesn't mean people need to take it personally. It's not like I affect their lives or anything. Besides I wasn't debating, just simply expressing my opinion. Apparently you took it personally and there really was no reason for it.
this generation saw a growth of overly entitled brats being a hardcore gamer means playing or willing to play any game on any system that looks fun, no matter the rating nor the graphics
SOme who's willing to play a game no matter what region it's released in. Sadly Nintendo is trying to fight us hardcore region free gamers, betraying us, ignoring us by region locking there systems, then trying to label us pirates when we hack the system to give it the feature gamers and developers deserve. Someday soon though they will loose this fight and we the gamers will see a bright new age of region free gaming. Break the locks
Unfortunately your right. There has been so many awesome games that have been Japan only or elsewhere.
Hardcore = dedication. Simple as that.
I agree, but some people take the term to another level, thinking hardcore means "cool". It just defines a gamer's avidity in playing games.
one game for me springs to mind is socom ps2 . the players on this game were/ are hardcore to the bone. it needed dedication and it was /is hard to master but worth the hours put into it. clan member i knew would not think twice about having 3 day gaming marathons at the weekend and practially just ate slept and played socom . thats dedication and thats hardcore different games for different peoples tastes but if they put the same dedication in then they are hardcore regardless of what they play. casual tend to go from franchise to franchise but hardcore always seem to find their niche and stick to it .
Hardcore would be the guy who would rather play Halo than go out with friends, hardcore would be the guy who buys a wheel to play racing games, hardcore would be the guy who just loves gaming in general, you can't class yourself a hardcore gamer if your a silly fanboy dedicated to one system. A hardcore gamer would not miss out on games like Halo 4 and gears 3 or uncharted and killzone. Thats my opinion anyway
I am surprise you got some disagree there.
Yep. Your right. A "dedicated" gamer. Soooooooo...would a hardcore gamer own every single system? And, would they also be very rich? :)
Some students have a job to pay for their personal needs... Guess that adds up to the 'hardcore'.
Hardcore is just...lame. I don't know why anyone would willfully call themselves hardcore anything.
I'm a hardcore American civil war reenacter. I'm a hardcore scrapbooker. I'm a hardcore old timey memorabilia collector. I guess gaming is the only hobby where people describe themselves as hardcore with a straight face. Strange because when I play games I'm usually just sitting on the couch which doesn't strike me as being very hard or core.
oi oi oi i take offense at that comment j/k
I agree with Son_Lee, but I'll take it a step further. Hardcore gaming is when you're actually invested into gaming culture. There are a lot of people out there who game but they don't really care about gaming culture. You can't be a hardcore gamer if you don't care that EA is screwing devs out of jobs and ruining brands. A core gamer cares about this stuff because it affects gaming as a hobby. A core gamer pays attention to the industry, takes into account things that will make or break a gaming experience, no matter what platform, handheld, mobile or stationary device. A core gamer is also invested into the overall gaming experience, it's not just a fad or something cool because it's the "in" thing to do. You can't be a hardcore gamer if you treat gaming culture casually.
Bubble up. Well said. Although I drop the term entirely and would classify myself as a videogame enthusiast. I not only love gaming as a hobby but I love discussing it, staying up to date with the latest news, look at reviews and pick up classic games I may have missed out on. I'm also a videogame collector so overall I'm just pretty enthusiastic about gaming alltogether, in a....calm kinda way LOL But everything you said was absolutely right I just think the title "hardcore gamer" needs to go if we truly want to expand and allow new types of gamers to enjoy one of(if not our favorite) hobbies. Just my 2 cents.
the "hardest core games" IMO are the first ones that you'll recommend to your friend when they have just bought the platform on which they run. for me, that would be i.e. PS3 - Heavy Rain, Uncharted 2, and TLoU(I expect) XboX - Halo, Fable (I expect, never owned xbox) PC - Crysis Series, Deus Ex, Tremulous, Realm of the Mad God, Sins of a Solar Empire... So maybe hardcore is whichever game makes its platform the proudest.
Someone who has seen at least a decade of top quality gaming. Knows a good game when they see one regardless of rating. Plays with passion and dedication. Welcomes a challenge.
Dedicated. But the majority of people who played video games back then and play video games now have been those with a passing interest in it.
Harcore for me is someone that take games more than simply a hobby. A hardcore gamer will visit websites like N4G and will get on forums to discuss games.
To be hardcore means you don't have the right to an opinion, to be hardcore means you have less bubbles! lmao
Hardcore gamers are dedicated gamers that play anything for any amount of time they want. You wanna play angry birds after playing Halo? Go ahead. But to play anything, you must own many machines. I have my bases covered with a Wii, PS3, 360, DS, PSP(not buying those games again in psn for vita) 3DS, Vita, and PC(limited to Star craft, Counter strike, League, and WoW)
To me, to be hardcore is to still be a dedicated gamer while being from an era of running a console through a antenna jack and turning your console on channel 3 to play a game!
For me hardcore is getting all of the: Skulltulas, Mask, Treasure Charts, Hidden Skills, and Pieces of Heart on Hero Mode.
Honestly, I think hardcore is just someone who has a love for games. But to each, his own. My definition won't be the same as another, but I respect them for that. Diversity is what makes the idea of a "gamer" great.
Coke font for the logo. I guess that makes me hardcore at brand recognition.
Hardcore is about kicking ass. The hardcore gamer gets really good really fast. The controls are tuned for efficiency, the equipment is finely calibrated. It's about one shot for one or more kills, friendly fire is on, no assistance like auto aim or active stability, the dificulty is set to max just for fun. They don't give up or die easy. It's all about kicking ass.
Clanmembers that make a difference in battle, people that played the beta, the last few hundred of a community, daily visitors of the arcade. Everybody who still can master a pinball machine.
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