With companies afraid to take the leap and create more original titles, is the era of Maddens and Halo's an era of doom?
Only sequels? Must be a Wii/360 problem. Nothing but good times for me & PS3.
Amazing isn't it? For once you weren't the first to comment.It's pretty crazy, considering how much you love to be the top poster No wonder you're speechless.
(mentions Doom) Ok so....all gaming platforms then. Consoles AND PCs.
i was thinking this was more about how the hardware was a sequel to the previous releases. In many ways they are just evolutionary instead of revolutionary. But as to the topic of sequels in relation to games...I honestly do not have a problem with a continuation of a story that takes the time to draw the player in and sometimes you dont want that to end. Sports games arent a really good example as we are now at an age where the changes each time/season could be more updates to the existing product. Why buy a whole new game if the major difference is a roster change? Prior to the DLC era it made sense but now...not so much. Story driven games are what i enjoy. Be it FPS types like Halo, Resistance or Killzone or the more specific adventure/rpg. When you become engrossed in a game and it ends, you naturally want to see a sequel. however, just as there is the desire to see a continuation of a good game series. They can also jump the shark if they drag on for 5 or 6 or 7 variations. I could use the FF series as an example but they are more connected in name/number than direct storyline (some not all).
Hes speechless from your fanboy-ism
Are you for real right now? -Uncharted 1,2,3 -God of War 3, Ascension -inFamous 1,2 -Metal Gear Online, Metal Gear solid 4 -Disgaea 4 -LBP 2, Karting -Any Motorstorm -Ratchet and Clank Crack in Time, Quest for Booty, Tools of Destruction, All 4 One, Secret Agent Clank -Resistance 1,2,3 -Killzone 1,2,3 Yep, no sequels to be had here.
Name another console with more new IPs and exclusive titles.
Until Dawn Last of Us Puppeteer Rain Beyond Unfinished Swan Wonderbook Diggs Nightcrawler PlayStation All-Stars What were you saying?
@Pixel_Enemy The RDI Halcyon, plebeian fanatic.
The funny thing is that 5 of the series you listed are new IPs released this gen exclusive to Sony. Comparatively, the PS3 has one of, if not the widest variety of new IPs. The thing is that these new IPs are good enough for Sony to warrant their sequels. If all you want is new IPs try the indie section and good luck getting a sequel to a game you like when you actually find a game that deserves one. I don't have a problem with sequels, but I do take issue when my favorites are left unfinished and I can't find something new to fill that void.
Thats a good list of great games, you should check out the new IP list also. :)
@ everybody above Never said they didn't have great or new IP's, but that doesn't mean that their sequels don't count. IP's have nothing to do with this conversation. Guess we shouldn't include any of the Gears of War games for Microsoft since that was a new IP, right? While we're at it, the only big name titles on the 360 that are sequels (that I can think of off the top of my head) are Saints Row, Halo, Gears of War, and Fable. Considerably less than PS3.
um did he just list MGS 4 and MGS Online as different games? Lol
@ Jihaad They were released as separate games, so yes he did list them as different games. In some countries MGO was bundled with MGS4, that doesn't make it the same game.
@ yesmynameissumo That's great and all, but the sequels listed above still vastly outnumber those games.
@ToxicTaco It is great. Even some the listed sequels were new IP. Infamous, Motorstorm, Uncharted, LBP, Resistance, Pixel Junk games, Dead Nation and on. But ignore those.
@Pixel_enemy: Xbox 360. Simply more new IPs this gen. Count them if you will, either as percentage of in absolute numbers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... + http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... + http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... VS http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... + http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... + http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... (Not that the new IP list on the PS3 is half bad. Both consoles did pretty well this gen in terms of new IP. The X360 is just slightly ahead, mainly thanks to an extra year in the market and to a much more flourishing download space - and I'm not even counting the indie channel).
Uncharted 1,2,3 (New IP for the PS3) Infamous (New IP for the PS3) LBP 2, Karting (LBP - New IP for the PS3) Motorstorm (New IP for the PS3) Resistance (New IP for the PS3) Not to mention games like - Heavy Rain, Beyond, Journey, Flower, Flow, Folklore, Last of Us, Papo and Yo, The Last Swan, Demon's Souls etc. Every platform has its share of sequelitis but I will say that Sony and the PS3 have done more to release new IPs than Microsoft (Nintendo really don't know the meaning of the term New IP). @ humbleopinion Most of the new IPs Microsoft have on their platform were from third parties. Their development efforts went to Fable and Halo sequels. Though again, they did a much better job than Nintendo.
@fallingdove, what is your point? Yes, most of the new IPs on the X360 were from 3rd parties, but the exact same thing applies to the PS3 (and even the Wii): There are always more games published by 3rd parties, and as a result there are more new IPs from third parties. But the fact still remains: even if you look only at titles published by Microsoft VS Sony, there are strictly more new IPs on the X360. The Sony published games that you mentioned are all good, but for every uncharted and infamous and lbp and resistance and motorstorm, you have your gears and crackdown and alan wake and mass effect... both companies always try to make sure they can balance each other out. And if you just look at the number of games Microsoft published on the XBLA *just from 2012* you can count over 20 games which are new IPs from this gen. I mean, how can TCG_Returns claim that sequels must be a 360 problem in a year where games like mark of the ninja, fez, dust , sine mora, the splatters and minecraft are already out? Don't you find his statement utterly ridicilous!?
I have no problem with the sequels or spin-offs as long as they are good. But I'm happy to see new ideas or new IPs as well.
Not everyone is just into sequels. What about games like Puppeteer, Last of Us and Dishonored? It not only on consoles that people are afraid to take a leap. That is a problem that plagues all of gaming. Indie gaming is one of the few who still takes the plunge but that is only because it is cheaper to take a risk with an indie game. Sony is one of few remaining people who still welcome full fledged new IPs like Heavy Rain,Motorstorm and LBP and take a risk with them.
So you pull up 3 games that havent released and havent had a chance to get a sequel yet and 3 games that are just copies of other IP's as proof of how good Sony is? Copying Mario for LBP wasnt a risk. Taking God of War and giving it a female lead is not a risk either. i'd agree with you that Sony takes risks if you can name off a single new IP from them that isnt just a copy of whats already out on other consoles. I guess you consider All Stars a new innovative IP that is taking a risk? Even though it is a clone of an already proven successful franchise?
that get goty awards and win the hearts of gamers everywhere.
Sequel machines huh? What of it? Edit: Yes though I agree with say, Halo and certain franchises by EA. Maybe not Halo.
That's not the console's fault. Blame the publishes and the people buying the games.
Lame article. The stance he believes the industry has now taken is nothing new to this generation. It's gotten worse, but it's not new. And there are so many new IPs that did well and became popular franchises that his ignoring them rather boggles the mind. He says developers and publishers don't want to talk risks, but with very few exceptions, most of this gen's best-selling franchises were created THIS GENERATION. Uncharted, Gears, Forza, Little Big Planet, Wii Sports, Kinect... anything. And plenty of others. All new to gaming these past seven years, and all popular enough to warrant sequels, to say nothing of upcoming titles like Beyond and The Last of Us. One-offs like Heavy Rain, Lost Odyssey, and Xenogears; two-part series like inFamous, Alan Wake, and No More Heroes. Compare that number- and many more unnamed- to Halo, Call of Duty, Gran Turismo, and Mario. Toss in a few Zeldas and a couple of Ratchets, and that's about it for the established-before-this-genera tion IPs that are doing very well.
Welcome to the Nintendo world. I thought it was all about gameplay? What a bunch of hypocrites.
Ok i say we do the only logical thing and make devs release less sequels! Now what makes devs make sequels? hmmmmm..... GOT IT!!! Good sales on the original! Therefore the solution is we dont buy games........ -_- But seriously people buy games they like. So why are we being blamed if a dev makes a new IP but someone thinks "you know I dont like the look of that game. Just doesnt look like something i would enjoy so I'll get a sequel to something I know I'll like" then they're to blame for a lack of new IP's?!?!? No one is to blame for this. Making a new IP is a win/loss situation for devs and sometimes people like what you make and sometimes they dont. You just gotta show that your talented enough to make something people want which is incredibly hard to find.
No, Consoles are gaming machines. Now, some companies are sequel machines. Am I right, Activision? BTW, and to be honest. We gamers love to support sequels. It's not like they're not trying, but when an original game is released and sales are poor, then there's no other choice.
I think sequels are what will keep the industry going. I'm all for new IP, but when an amazing IP come out guess what, people going to want a sequel for it as well. People buy what they like. There are a lot of games that people are still begging to have a sequel. I do agree that companies seem to be relying on them too heavily and should sprinkle more new Ip in between. I also find it funny that they say it the era of Madden, when it had been doing yearly release since 1990. Sports games are a whole different ballpark that I think should be left out of the equation.
I could say the same thing about Journalism nowadays.
I enjoyed a game that was a sequel, once. Therefore I don't care much
Odd considering the majority of the games in my steam library are sequels.
Not the PS3. The PS3 is the only console with new IPs still releasing with PS All Stars Battle Royal, The Last of Us, and Beyond: Two Souls all coming soon.
People never complain about a sequel when the game is awesome though....soo
*Face Palm* People get so defensive over facts. Please read the article before you shower us with your orphan tears, I know they taste great, but enough is enough.
well... they are machines... that make sequels.... OMG YOURE RIGHT!!! DX
I agree, i'm going to now go play Sims 1343256434 on PC
Author complains about sequels... Puts The Last Of Us in article image.
As if PC games don't have sequels.
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