Why Sony should strive to have the most powerful console Next generation

Many gamers and press like to blame Sony’s incessant need to have the most powerful console as the reason as to why they are in last place this generation . While that may be true Sony-gamer.com would like to look at the other side of this coin and how Sony wanting to have the most powerful console could of possibly benefitted the PS3. And could look to help the PS4 next generation if they strive for the most powerful console again.

[jack who]

they did that this gen what did it get them?

[NastyLeftHook0]

1.1 the most powerful console with

. the best exclusive console game (9.6)between the two.

. a game that won more awards than any other game in history.

.a next gen media format (bluray)
.the jadropping last of us

. there the number 1 console sold worldwide.

.there the only game company that has actually upgraded and uses 1 disk.

.they have the more exclusives and care about there fans(free online.

.they brought fantastic deals like ps plus

and the most important is they brought unique jaw dropping titles like heavy rain, littlebigplanet,
god of war, infamous, metal gear solid 4...

gt55 sold 10m units.

sony has done alot. and i thank them for not abandoning the hardcore.

[Carl_Shocker]

" sony has done alot. and i thank them for not abandoning the hardcore. "

I think people forget this, despite them being in some financial situation they havent once sold us out for the casual audience like MS or Nintendo did

[Irishguy95]

Yes, and either way, Sony actually got nothing out of it except respect. Money makes companies spin. Not respect.

Either way, they can still strive to have the most powerful without spending so much ****ing money doing it.

[Dms2012]

Tell that to my Ps3 that is in a box with its 2nd busted Blu Ray drive. Not making this up.

[SlipperyMooseCakes]

1.) Best exclusives is usually subjective. While the PS3 has a wonderful and highly rated first party line up (for the most part), keep in mind a lot of 3rd party games suffered because of the PS3 being the way it is.

2.) A little redundant there, see number one.

3.) Blu-Ray isn't something they earned by being the most powerful console, it was included in the console. That really is neither here nor there.

4.) They are the number one selling console this year so far, not the number one console sold. They are actually just slightly in last place.

5.) You're repeating yourself again with the Blu-Ray.

6.) The Wii has more exclusives over all, and the 360 has more than the PS3. I see what you are saying though, that they have an awesome first party line up and that is true.

7.) PS+ is awesome, that doesn't have anything to do with the power of the system for the most part. The same things could be done on the 360.

8.) Again, repeating yourself with the first party titles.

9.) GT5 sold very well, the previous iterations sold better though, when the PlayStation was not the most powerful console on the market. See previous generations.

[ronin4life]

I noticed you left out the Wii... which happens to have the highest rated game and the highest selling high rated games.

[makemyteapunk]

I hope you get paid by Sony for posting such nonsense, because if you dont....well....

[tordavis]

Not a single thing you said has anything to do with the Playstation 3 being the most powerful console.

[cobblestone19]

It hasn't been a perfect ride with the ps3 this Gen. But the same can be said for the wii/360. But to me, the ps3 was the console to own this Gen. It, hands down, has the highest number of QUALITY games. And thats all that I care about. But, along with that, the best looking console games of the whole Gen. And the best is yet to come with beyond, tlou and ascension next year. Oh and, the Wii actually has the lowest number of quality titles. So it's a shame that it, technically, won this Gen. But to me, the ps3 won. Oh and... OMFG I am excited for PSASBR!!!!!

[BattleAxe]

@ tentonsoftube

"sony has done alot. and i thank them for not abandoning the hardcore."

Here Here!!! Give this man a round of applause!

@ tordavis

"Not a single thing you said has anything to do with the Playstation 3 being the most powerful console"

Man, you are the biggest non-gamer around. You probably don't even use that so called "gaming PC" you built for gaming. Nothing that you ever say is in any way shape or form, the least bit constructive. You're a stealth xbox 360 fanboy that likes to pull out all of your Nintendo and Sony hardware as if it were proof that you are an all around gamer. You've been on Sony's case for years, and its just not getting you anywhere. When I scrolled over your comment, my screen got all steamed up from the hot air that was emanating from the comment you made.

@ j-blaze

Your comments show just how much of a straight up noob you are, and frankly, you just don't make any sense. so you think that Sony got the idea of an HDD from MS? Really??

[Brosy]

Sony has only had the most pwerful console one time in the Playstation brands life. And they are in last place. With Sony in the financial trouble they are in, I wouldnt hold my breath on them having the most powerful console next gen. Even though the rumor is that the PS3 has theoritaclly got more power than the 360, you wouldnt believe it the way the 360 outperforms the PS3 on multiplats on a monthly basis.

[BusterFang]

@BattleAxe
Guess he thinks the same in regards to the cell phone industry adding tech that the competitors have lol (touch screens, cameras, voice command, etc etc...for anyone who owns a cell @[email protected])

[OneAboveAll]

Failed to mention all the cons it has too though. The launch price being $600 and the terrible account security.

[strifeblade]

number one selling console? no in fact both 360 and wii have more consoles sold. they dont care about fans they care about money like any other company. you think next gen they wont announce a pay to play online similar to xbox you are kidding yourself- if they dont they are throwing away huge profit. sony is in a dire business state, they worth less than nintendo- they need to turn some policies around for sony to become profitable again. Their exclusives are under advertised- too many exclusives is great for gamers but bad when they dont sell.

[r1sh12]

Having the most powerful console doesn't make them the best.
Whats made Sony very good is the games and exclusives they have.
I pretty much bought my PS3 because of the exclusives, not because of the blu ray or the cell processor.

BLu ray is a great technology but Sony are kicking themselves, because physical media sales have been dropping since the release of blu ray technology due to netflix and similar services for films/TV shows etc.

The cell processor might be very powerful, but the 2 main components that hold back consoles are RAM and graphics cards/Chips.

For me it was about the range of games Sony have and the games that are going to come.
Sony as a company are pretty awful, they've made terrible decisions and all the other products (excluding the PS3) are inferior to the competition. Thats a fact, hence why Sony are losing money in every department except gaming/Ps3.

And just to add - The Wii is the best console by a long way. All of this next gen nonsense has been disproved by nintendo. Make a product that everyone wants, have some decent games and money will be thrown at you.

[Hatsune-Miku]

Because next gen starts when Sony says so.

[T900]

So why are Sony borrowing parts from old PC tech? Open your eyes next gen has been out long before, its just that console makers are always playing catch up.

[shutUpAndTakeMyMoney]

Your right! Planetside 2!!! 20000 player shooter is next gen!

[BusterFang]

I'd rather say next gen starts for [insert company] when they release their new console rather than just group it all together. Even though it does begin with whoever releases first (which happens to be Wii U), but to each their own? I guess. Waiting to see what will be brought to the table by Sony and Microsoft. Definitely Sony since they better have learned from any mistakes made this gen.

EDIT: I'm looking forward to PlanetSide 2 as well shutUpAndTakeMyMoney.

[FXGAMESKILLEEN]

umm why do u only look at the negatives? Sony also have benefitted from having the extra power its a give and take

[StreetsofRage]

A console that can't run Skyrim cannot be called the most powerful console this gen.

The number 1 console sold worldwide? Still trying to believe your lies. Sad.

[MysticStrummer]

"A console that can't run Skyrim cannot be called the most powerful console this gen."

Ridiculous. Raw power is raw power, and bad code is bad code. There's a reason Elder Scrolls games are best played on PC, and that's because users can fix the game with mods. Bethesda has some great ideas, but they can't code worth a damn. That's been true since Arena. If they couldn't put their game on PS3 properly they shouldn't have committed to do so. It's pretty late in the gen to claim it's the hardware's fault.

As for the worldwide thing, PS3 and 360 are basically tied for second so I don't know what the "number one" thing is about. The Wii is clearly number one, though that fact makes me sad for gaming.

[Computersaysno]

Raw power is raw power and meaningless much of the time in consoles close for performance.

How you use power matters more, doesn't it always?

360 is more flexible and uses its performance better. More powerful? Not really, but powerful enough that its flexibility beats out PS3 a good 8 times out of 10 when you look at games.

If PS3's raw power was that significant then every single PS3 game should easily beat every single 360 game. Like a gaming PC.

Obviously that is not the case and Skyrim is just another of the long list of examples to back that up.

[Quiescent]

you are impaired

[Oh_Yeah]

whether you like it or not, @Computersaysno is right. The 360 outperforms the ps3 in majority of multi-plat games, specifically 360 handles open world games better due to its ram being able to be shared, making a easier job for the devs, hence why there is sub hd in red dead redemption on ps3 and more problems with bethesdas skyrim and fallouts.

The ps3 exclusives on the other hand vs the 360s? we all know the ps3 outdoes the 360 in that area with more quality and quantity, sony's devs just have more talent. now some say thats opinion...but its a hard one to argue lol.

[one2thr]

And Infamous, isn't open world?... A ported game from pc, would work better on console architecture that is similar to a pc's architecture that's just plain commonsense. But if a developer decides to go that extra mile for example Valve, and make a game actually WORK unlike said poorly coded Skyrim, then what's the point trying to down play a console because of its small difficulties?

Heck MS, has said themselves that if a multiplat seems to lack certain features, in other words seem inferior compared to the other console, they'll (Ms) will not support that companies game..

And if the 360 is on the same playing field as the Ps3, then why hasnt there been a racing game on it that looks better than the first motorstorm(in terms of realtime photo-realism), or a fps title that looks better than killzone 2 with a equal or more dynamic enemy AI?....

The only logical explaination is that the 360devs are either lacking skills or that the 360 is actually inferior compared to the PS3 and that you guys are lying to yourselves by saying there equals...

Doesn't matter much to me, I get the best of 3 worlds Pc/PS3/PSVita

[StreetsofRage]

Yeah Infamous is open world and it sucked! The graphics are horrible. The Ps3's best games are all small box linear games like Uncharted. What I mean by small box is your whole gaming experience is confined to a small area.

Tell me this, if the ps3 is so powerful, why hasn't their been an exclusive with the size of GTA4, Red Dead, Fallout 3, or Skyrim? Easy answer, because it can't run them because of the lack of ram. The games I mentioned run way better on the 360. And even tho' Uncharted is amazing, in my opinion, it doesn't come close to the awesomeness of Skyrim, therefore, the PS3 cannot be called the most powerful console this gen.

And your comment about Motorstorm and Killzone 2 is just stupid.

And I'm the one that has the best of both worlds in Xbox 360 and Ps3. You can't play the best racing sim in Forza this gen on the PC. You can't play the best FPS exclusive in Halo 4 in the PC. And you can't play the best third person shooter in Gears 3 on the PC. I can play all of them. :)

[stragomccloud]

@one2thr and streets of rage

In these cases, I suppose I have the best of countless worlds.
NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube, Wii, Wii U preordered, Gameboy, Gameboy Advance, DS Lite, 3DS, PS1, PS2, PS3, PSP, Xbox 360, and of course a sweet PC rig.

[Perjoss]

"Sony should strive to have the most powerful console Next generation"

Not only this, but Sony should strive to make the PS4 slightly easier to develop for, seeing as many devs complain that this is an issue.

[Thatguy-310]

Think they are. They're one of the only company's that strive for that and thats why the price for their products are so high. I hope they do though. I mean look at all the great exclusives we got that showed off the power of the cell.

[ChickeyCantor]

"they did that this gen what did it get them?"

Both 360 and PS3 were struggling maintaining 720p at a steady framerate.

Please people. Stop with the "most powerful hardware" BS. It makes you look like a goddamn tool.

[Jazz4108]

I cant believe so many people still use the ps3 as it really does not do one thing very well. It feels very tacked on and a mess to code for anda hassle to use compared to the 360.

[kikizoo]

Lol @Xbox fanboyz in denial fest...

real believer, so pathetic....multiplatforms are exactly the same most of the time, or differences can't be seen when you are playing (not so good for ps3, ok, since most powerfull console should have better ports), only worst xfanboyz are always believing this "lensoftruth" shit, transforming little to no differences in "run and look better" LOL, and exclusives from competitors can't compete with playstation ones, quantity and quality, it's just a fact...just check reviews, award, and buy a pair of glasses if it's not enough.

oh, nintendo delusional fans are here too :
"I noticed you left out the Wii... which happens to have the highest rated game and the highest selling high rated games."

First, you can't compare wii scores with better hardware scores (a 9 for wii it's a 6 for ps3, at best), and even if you make that mistake : ps3 has way more and better exclusives than anything this gen, it's just a metacritic fact..and most of all, it's obvious if you are a gamer more than a fanboy.

by the way, it's stupid to think "most powerfull= less sales this year, so they have to do a less powerfull consoles than competitor"..only price, propaganda (paid medias, etc), and fanboyz stopped the ps3 to being first vs it's true competitor, 360(but they are selling better than xbox since launch, and are on par for global sales, despite 1 year late launch)

[Eyeco]

almost everything that went wrong with the PS3 this generation can be attributed to the messy launch.

And even still the Console is still near the 70 million mark and may reach 100 million mark seeing as sony usually supports there consoles for 10+ years, if thats a failure what the hell do you call 95% of all consoles released before it?

[Angrymorgan]

I don't think it matters

If m/soft or sony bring out the big specs because apart from exclusives, games are pretty much the same on either console.
Generally 3rd party games are developed for the weaker console and ported over to the other so it ain't gonna matter which is more powerfully unless there is a HUGE difference.

[Tsar4ever01]

Sony's next-gen ORBIS console should strive to have the MOST DEV USER FRIENDLY ARCHETECURE/PC-ish & DX11.? api, the most in-board SYSTEM MEMORY RAM/8GB or more, in-board flash memory 16-32GB for fastest OS Boot-up & dloaded HDD games, Google Chrome's web Browser w cloud service/Gaikai. All PS Orbis's HDD should be the recent "500GB 2.5'Seagate Momentus XT hybrid SSD Hybrid drive" and of coarse a speedier Bluray drive, at least 6-8X speed. Than most of this gens probs would be ironed out.

*see Segate Momentus XT hybrid SSD, "Adaptive Memory Technology". http://www.tomshardware.com...

[gintoki777]

why sony should create big sausage for you to eat

[showtimefolks]

while i do think we can expect a system that will push some limits just look at Vita, while people complain about not having many games one thing everyone agrees with is its high tech handheld.

I think you look at Vita launch and launch price for system one thing is for sure sony knows price is very important. here are few things i would expect from sony considering they are not in any position to loose a lot of money:

Their new system will make money from day one
PSN will remain free while they will add cross game chat

A more developer friendly system a lot more i think this is still a major sour point when it comes to ps3 development by 3rd party, While i also agree by now everyone should have a clear handle on this. Yes i am looking at you Bethesda

games,games,games and more games while sont has lost money and MS went all kinect and casual on us Sony has remained with core fanbase. I think going forward MS will loose some of its core audience because of how they have treated us the last 2-3 years. They saw wii making money and they forgot about us even though we made them successful by buying an incomplete machine that had a high failure rate

and let's not act like sony failed or anything they launched a system for $600 bucks and outsold everyone plus atleast they moved some tech forward and didn't go with DVD and also play uncharted 3 in 3D and you will see how awesome that is.

so while fanboys call sony copy cats and yes they do copy others they have also done enough to be them self.

PS4 is a day one buy for me personally

Its between xbox720/wiiu that the question for me personally, one company has awesome 1st party exclusives that we will be able to play in HD for the 1st time while other has 3-4 same exclusives they keep launching. When MS had a good lead and were doing well they should have kept the support up. Even though they went after casual market sony has still outsold them or sold neck and neck while catering to core audience

wii-u is a good start but next gen doesn't start till we hear from ms and sony(IMO)

[PirateThom]

I don't think they have a choice any more.

Like it or not, PS3 was a trojan horse for Blu-ray which was part of their plan.

Now, with Sony pushing 4K resolution TVs, they'll need a console at least capable of 4K resolution games, even if it's the same as PS3 where only a limited number of games support it. That's going to require some power to achieve.

Sony's unified global strategy means their 4K TVs need 4K capable devices and PlayStation still holds weight, despite what the haters (mostly American media to be fair) seem to think.

[KMCROC54]

if that the Case then most PS gamer are never going par take in said console,cause most will not be able to afford Tv's that cost 19k to 25k.

[a_squirrel]

Wait, you mean like first HD lcds?

[KMCROC54]

@a_squirrel these 4k tv are start way higer than the first Lcd or Hd

[BrutallyBlunt]

Blu-ray was their main plan and because of that their focus on gaming got lost in the beginning. The split in RAM, slow read speeds and not a very powerful GPU hindered it as well.

I expect the PS4 to be more reasonably priced and a more conservative effort. Ken Kutaragi is gone and Sony needs to focus more on earning profits earlier on. The system will also be a lot more developer friendly, it has to be.

[attilayavuzer]

4k..if that's not the definition of unnecessary technology I don't know what is. The only reason they'd be sane to promote it is because of how little they're making off current hdtvs.

They need to focus on getting everything running at 1080p 60fps no exceptions...then if developers feel that full HD isn't good enough they can experiment with 4k...but honestly that would destroy performance to a point that I don't see why they'd bother. You'd need a machine far more powerful than the next generation of consoles.

[Dreamer09]

But it'll still be lacking behind my PC whenever it's released.

Playstation fans needs to realise this "raw power" will NEVER happen. Unless you want a console costing £600+.

Expect dated hardware and gimped architecture.

[MysticStrummer]

PC fans need to learn to read the word "console" in the title of an article.

[ALLWRONG]

Console fans need to learn that consoles are just PC's

[Ayabrea123]

Thank you. I use a PC as well but sometimes the PC crowd forgets that the P and C in PC means "Personal Computer/ing" Not dedicated consoles. They have the option to play games, it's not its full intentions. I seriously hate that argument. Parents and normal people outside gamers like us are going to make or buy supped up PC for their family or kids. The console is still important and relevant.

[FunAndGun]

Seriously, we know guys. PC is the master race and you are already playing in the future while consoles are playing catch up. thats fine, cool.

PC fans need to realize we game on consoles and don't care about you gaming on PC. I don't care about your ZOF89000 chip or you have the OMGZ graphics card.

Consoles are built with universal restrictions and that is what makes it exciting to see what can be done on these plug and play machines. You SHOULD be able to build a 'monster rig' that is capable of destroying the fabric of time but that doesn't impress because you are comparing two different things.

Its like you taking a gun to an archery range and proclaiming you are the best. Yes, we know you are more efficient and powerful. But I have more fun trying to aim and shoot my arrow in competition with everyone else of the same caliber.

just go to the PC section and talk about who paid for the biggest e-peen already.

[XB1_PS4]

I'm sure there will be no issues, this is the second generation of this type of console. The social console.

[ChunkyLover53]

Sony has only ever had the most powerful console once, it ended up getting them lackluster third party ports most of the time.

If they try coming out with a $500 machine again, it could very well mean the end of Sony. Not sure why people don't understand how a company works. They cant afford to just take loss after loss. They need to come out with a competitive machine that is competitively priced for next gen. I don't think people will care if its as powerful as the next Xbox or a little less so. The only people who are really going to care are the fanboys who liked to beat their chest saying "PS3's the most powerful console". These are the same kids who are trolling every Wii U article right now.

Sony needs to stay in the console market, competition is needed. Taking a loss again for years and years because they are losing money on hardware isn't a good idea.

[Nerdmaster]

For two generations, Sony had the weakest console and sold the most. On this generation, it has the most powerful console, and it's on third place. I guess this tells how important is having the most powerful console.

[SpecialK]

I dont think its ever really been about the graphics, its all about the games.

Personally I think sony has done amazing with its first party titles theres been many of them and some have pushed the envelope and made a success out of ideas that no one thought would do so well.

what they have always lacked in my opinion is a system seller in the action genre. They have some big hitters but none of them were marketed to the level of halo or gears.

Thats their issue, loads of great games that cover niches like socom, heavy rain, warhawk which now all still have followings akin to movie cult followers, but no big mainstream hitter.

Its ALL about software.

[a_squirrel]

The problem is they went more powerful at a lower cost (than other processors) and lost in the long run.

It's more about making the software and hardware work together in harmony. Good software is stopped by bad hardware, and good hardware is stopped by bad software. I'm guessing they're putting a lot into their OS simply because of the 16GB of flash storage (rumored to be at least) for the OS.

It looks like Microsoft is throwing everything they have at Windows 8, including Xbox, so expect an experience like that.

[Irishguy95]

They suck at marketing, that's all it is imo. They could advertise the **** out of loads of specific games instead of having "ps3 - here's our games" ads. They should just stick trailers out or something. Get them as widespread as possible.

[TheKayle]

next sony console will have less power than the next ms console....sony cant do again the same mistake....and im sayingthis just looking at this gen and at their financial situation..they just CAN'T...or well they could if they wanna totally fail.......here we dont need to be fanboys...
is just the logical thing to do...
look at what happening to the vita...most expansive handheld ever produced......is selling? no
ps3 was the most hi tech console .....and end third...
they will no do the same mistake again...
they can achieve good result with "something less" with their "good payed" first party studios...and let go away the hardcore fanboys..that r ruining the brand asking things that r putting sony in a little corner against stronger competitor like nindendo and ms (that in this moment seem to understand the market better than sony)
and yeah also sony should go casual if th
is mean stay on the market....coz no money=ending of the ps brand ..realize it

[jeffrey222]

most expansive? what is expansive? or most expensive handheld?

then what about 3DS launching @ $250 that is more expensive than vita.

when you look at the specs 3ds was not worth $250.

vita worth $250 the only problem vita has was game library there was no "must buy game" right now on each region. (LBP Vita released this week we can see a little sale spike on vita ^^)

take a look at what miku do on sale of vita hardware on japan. it just need a "must buy game" to each region and we will see it will sells like hotcakes.

[chukamachine]

I know.

The T1000 is much faster then the old T900, oops.

New GPU'S CPU'S come out for PC, But what games push them.

NONE.

I don't need x16aa, nobody does, unless zoomed in 2000%, x4aa is all that's ever been needed.

x16af can be done by any card now.

Lighting/shaders/textures/sha dows are the most important graphical features. And thankfully they are moving along.

Crytek pushes hardware, but they need more games to show off the engine, I think deadspace would have done well using it.

As for newer GPU'S.

PS3 max is 4.4gigapixels.
360 max is 4.4gigapixels.
Cell was used to do post processing on cpu so you could get more from the gpu in other ways.

My gpu pixel rate is 28.8gigpixels.

[Conzul]

And let's not forget tessellation! I'm tired of seeing "round" things and curves that are an assortment of obtuse angles. I'd actually prefer perfected model geometry to lighting at this point.

[IQUITN4G]

Having the most powerful hardware wont make the difference next gen. The average sort has a hard time telling the differences even now. The days where games were so radically different looking from machine to machine will be even less so unless were looking more directly at the likely lower spec Wii U, so what really

Other than people in the know-which is a much smaller percentage- this side of things is far less important if what they're looking at is already excellent. Xbox for example is down as the lower spec machine, but generally people that play some of the very best looking games for this machine our more than happy and certaily don't reach a conclusion that they want better graphics. The new iphone5 will be another example of this up against the Vita because frankly the graphics look very decent despite being less technically great

This is simply becoming a non issue for a lot of gamers

[IQUITN4G]

Do Sony guys truly think Sony has gone all out for gamers because they love you lot. This run of targeted games is purely a business one. It's the hope that providing a slew of exclusives core games would have by now made a dramatic difference to how PS3 is received and goes on to sell

The trouble however is that this business model is only working in the sense of hardcore gamers being happy. The bigger picture is we're a much smaller part of the industry than we used to be. Do people really think Sony is happy that PS3 hasn't leapfrogged xbox as a result of their huge line up of exclusives. They can't maintain that level if it doesn't do the trick. MS has a good business model in place and that's informed by the market. Sony is in a hard spot right now

[mochachino]

The sad thing is that development for it was overly time/resource intensive to demonstrate that it was more powerful for all but a few Sony exclusives. The majority of multiplats (and most popular games) looked and ran better on 360.

I would have sold my 360 a long time ago if I could depend on my PS3 to have multiplats that even were equal to 360, but I couldn't. Kutaragi totally f'ed up PS3 design. It could have been more powerful and easy to develop for.

[makemyteapunk]

Sony said previously that there would be a fraction of the money invested in PS4 as there was in the PS3. Its very likely MS will have a MUCH more powerful system next time around just like they did with the original Xbox over the PS2.

[AO1JMM]

Most powerful = most expensive = lower install base throughout the life cycle of the console = PS3 all over again.

[Omnislash]

An even stronger console than the behemoth that is the PS3 would be great, as long as they dont make the same mistakes as last gen like waiting an entire year to release it.

Sony FTW!

[Genecalypse]

No thank you. We know exactly what that would entail. The PS3 costs 599$ US dollars. Please dont make that mistake again, dont bleed money for years, and create a system that is hard to develop for.

[sdplisken]

IMO for PS4

1. Sony needs to make the best possible machine for under $400 (better graphix card, LOTS OF RAM, EASIER TO DEVELOP FOR)

2. give the dualshock an overhaul or alternative(make it shooter friendly)(dualshock 3 was almost perfect imo)
-make something that will please the cod crowd sadly

3. Revamp or replace the xmb (a slick faster interface would be nice) w/ cross game chat/party chat of course

4. KEEP BRINGING THE 1ST PARTY WAR MACHINE
and MGS5, Demon's Souls 2 please

please sony dont sell out like M$ and Kidtendo

bring on ps4!!!!!

[Hazmat13]

both parties should invest in interchangeable graphics chips its expensive as shit but both 720 and PS4 will last longer than 10 years, and give PC gamers a run for its money.