Why Xbox 360 Won 2007, Not Wii

This editorial comes from Kombo.com. Here is a portion of the article:

Who's winning the console war right now? If you answered "Wii", then guess again.

Although the Wii has indisputably made its way into more homes than the Xbox 360 or the PlayStation 3, it should not be considered the most successful console of this generation so far. No, I'm not trying to trip you up, either: Nintendo DS is not the answer. Despite falling a few million units behind in terms of console sales, the Xbox 360 is actually winning this generation. Let me explain why.

There's more to winning the console race than simply selling more units than your competitors. This has always been a fact, but was more difficult to see in the two-competitor, Sega/Nintendo or Sony/Nintendo eras, because the winner in both cases just so happened to sell more units. Indeed, there is obviously a strong correlation between overall success and the number of consoles sold. A more fair system in today's environment, though, would be to look at five different metrics.

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[Boink]

really good article, makes some great points.

[mikeslemonade]

The 360 gamer won. Microsoft did not beat Nintendo. You want to talk about investments? A console with unmet demand after more than a year beats any of Miscrosoft's investments.

[masterg]

It's hard to take an article serious when they start by only using US numbers. The only place where the 360 is doing well.
Secondly. It's a lot better to sell $100 worth of merchandise if you only had to spend $50 than it is to sell $1.000.000 if you had to spend $2.000.000.

There is only one winner when it comes to making any kind of money, and that is Nintendo.

In 3rd party support the 360 had a great year in 07, but look at 08, it's not looking bad, it's looking brutal.

The attach rate is the only thing where the 360 truly excels, lets leave it at.

[skagrerrrr]

article...good job!

[Mr_Kuwabara]

Great read, and I liked that big WAWOOP at the end seeing a section of the PS3.

[spasticjustice]

I concur...

[yamamoto114]

I also concur. This is an intelligent article from an unbiased analyst. We need more articles like this on N4G.

Man, I am so glad I'm not in the Hardcore Zone.

[PS360WII]

Revenue really. Well they can make 4 billion but how much is that in gross? I'm sure Nintendo still grosses more even though they make less. Attachment rate yes 360 has it. Return of value is subjective. Fun article but it's written by a guy who really likes his 360. A different article could be written saying the opposite for each of the others.

[darkshiz]

I know for damn sure Wii won.
It beat 360 even with its "1 year headstart" and passed it by millions about 3-4 million.

[Douchebaggery]

Nintendo is the only one making money on every console they sell and they sold way more than MS so.....

[yamamoto114]

@Darkshiz

"The console race is not as clear cut as it looks. In a three-console environment, it's important to look past the simple "units sold" number, and dig deeper for the facts. Let's hope that 2008 provides just as interesting an environment for gaming as 2007 did."

[MattyF]

That was a great read. Very insightful and made great points.

[The Killer]

ok and yes higher attach rate but that due to the nature of 360 owners that they are hardcore gamers and had twice and more install base in the beginning of 2007 than the ps3 so its obvious the 360 will have higher attach rate!
plus this year suppose to be a historical year for the 360 with the release of their biggest games in history(suppose), yet ps3 with high price and no games and bad online community sold more than 360!

i based on those facts i can call the 360 a failure console and brought nothing more than xbox except the upgrade in CPU and GPU!

EDIT
one more thing they talk about the 360 owners spending more money on 360 but u know why? other than they are hard core gamers they also spend extra money to buy the same game that their console damaged and with buying new consoles because of RROD(before they got the 3 year warranty) and the extra money they pay for live every damn year!

[zambrota]

x360 was the LEAST SELLING console in the world IN 2007 and it won 2007????

Nintendo wii sold the most HW on a global basis

PS3 came second with 8.83 million units

x360 was the third with 7.63m units

PS3 OUTSOLD the x360 by 1m units on a WORLDWIDE basis not to even mention the WII

This is MS MONEYHATTING

[JOLLY1]

a$$hatting. The article made some very valid points. 360 made money per console, before ps3. The wii has always made a profit, but lacks attach rate. So, with such a large attach rate and making money per console sold, Microsoft had a stellar year.

Aww, I have a disagree follower, how cute

[Sez]

is this the excuse that every sonyfanboy uses."the only reason why 360 sold the amount of unit it did. is because people are replacing there broken ones". don't you guys think of something new. is that the reason why the ps2 sold as many as it did. because of the dre issues.what about ps1's is that the same case. use some common sense(in your case it's hard) maybe people like the 360 and the games it has out. sony only came in second because of the two price drops and promotional giveaways with HDTV. i bet if MS would have gave away a 360 with the purchase of XP or vista then you would be saying that MS is desperate to move units.

[ForTheFallen]

How about the fact that the 360 was released a year earlier with NO competition?

[The Brave 1]

yeah sure!If Microsofts strategy was to sell less units in 2007 than 2006 despite having its best games ,than yeah they won.lol!

[ruibing]

@JOLLY1
I don't really care about the other stuff you say, but you really shouldn't bring up the attach rate without mentioning the fact that its for twice the length of ownership in comparison to the other two consoles.

[candystop]

Of course they disagreed with you because there all on edge and have been for the last two years! They want the PS3 to do good and win no matter what and will right off any good 360 news as not true and any positive PS3 news as the only truth! Last year was the year of 360 wether people want to face it or not and this year is said to belong to Sony but we all know that as of now it can go either way! I still wonder why Sony fans to this day are so defensive and to prove a point every freaking day!

[captainjy]

Funny how the "least" selling console, had the most games, the highest attach rate and made the most money even with the RROD issues. All the while, Phony has continued to drop prices in less than a year after launching because they spent too much time on Blu-Ray.

[LastDance]

Vega maybe the reason every1 says it is because Ummmmm let me thinkkkkkkkkkk ITS TRUE???....Sh!t you have no sense. I dont knwo any REAL gamer.. and by real i mean some1 whos been playing games since they were a child. Has played through the classics and knows the pioneers of the video game business.. any real gamer who likes the 360. You know what the 360 is.. its a trend .. a fad. Its cool to have a 360.

Like 15 year olds now days who think they know everything about 80s music haha. where they only found out about it 10 minutes ago.

xbox has no soul. Its all fake.

[LastDance]

Oh its so funny I quote what an xbox user said to me 2 days ago.

"Halo was the first FPS to let people use vehicles"
AHHAAHHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
And no im not making this up!

XBOX PRIDE.

[Sez]

you are very ignorant.i am a real gamer. i have been playing games since probably you were a twinkle in your fathers eye and an itch in your fathers ballz. so when you talk about you don't know a real gamer. you must be talking about yourself. you haven't proved me wrong about my comment. all you did was try to throw insults like the child you are. again the only reason the ps3 did more in unit sale is because of the promotion giveaways with sony HDTV's. i only know one person with a ps3 out of all my friends( all grown with kids and a good job) and that one friend with the ps3 never plays his system and sit there collecting dust. yet he just bought a 360 because ps3 has nothing to interest him. and alot of people feel the same way. only sonyfanboys and bias sites think that sony has a killer lineup.but most of the games won't even come out this year. why waste $400 and not have anything good to play just waiting for something good.

[IntelligentAj]

One of the best articles i've read on this. The viewpoint was ever so slightly skewed but even then he makes some really good points and I have to agree with him on mostly everything. Simply put the console war is nowhere over so stop with the doomsday talk fanboys.

[IntelligentAj]

3 disagrees typical

[Wraith001]

An intelligent article. Couple of my mates bought wii but all they play is wii sports so they can kik my ass when i go rnd hehe

This yr will be big for PS3 no doubt.

"Microsoft has successfully made the Xbox line a permanent part of the gaming industry. If the 360 had flopped, the original Xbox could have been looked back upon as a mere flash in the pan. Rather, the 360 is more dominant than its predecessor and plays a pivotal role in Microsoft's larger strategy moving forward. With the era of Windows-monopolized computing drawing to a close and its venerable Office suite under constant attack by competitors, Microsoft desperately needs to establish itself as the number one entity in a new industry.

We saw the signs of this again with their acquisition announcement of Yahoo last week. Microsoft needs to succeed in the console space because that is their way of moving from the desktop into the consumer electronics area. The Zune has been a dud, but the 360 shows promise. Even if the 360 continues to be a loss leader (although it seems to have finally begin showing signs of profit potential), it's an important investment in Microsoft's future."

Cldnt agree more.

[wageslave]

But, there are factual errors in that comment.

"Microsoft has successfully made the Xbox line a permanent part of the gaming industry."
MS has been part of the game industry for 20 years. The PC has always been a leading game platform.

"With the era of Windows-monopolized computing drawing to a close"
What? Windows XP is the largest used OS on the planet. Windows Vista the second. Vista has more marketshare than GNU/Linux and *BSD (including Apple's OSX distribution) combined. There is no serious competitor to MS. There is no change in sight.

"and its venerable Office suite under constant attack by competitors"
There is no viable competitor to MS Office. There are many minor competitors that offer a small subset of its capability -- but its all that those alternatives lack that keep people using MS Office. There is no change in sight.

"Microsoft desperately needs to establish itself as the number one entity in a new industry."
MS rarely enters a market *at* #1. What they do is competently innovate and compete there way to better marketshare. No-one takes MS's competition lightly. They are relentless competitors.

"We saw the signs of this again with their acquisition announcement of Yahoo last week. "
MSFT + YHOO will still be a distant 2nd. Aquiring YHOO is about moving forward faster. Its about buying eyeballs and advertising. Little else (IMHO).

"Microsoft needs to succeed in the console space because that is their way of moving from the desktop into the consumer electronics area."
This generation of consoles is about "The Battle for the Living Room". A "Living Room" PC if you will. MS needs to be there for both the gaming, communications (Messenger) and media platform.

"The Zune has been a dud"
The Zune is #2 in the HD-based DMP market. Sure, not #1, but just watch. Watch what happens, MS will keep innovating and keep improving the product. They are slowly breaking into that space. 24 months from now, things will be widely different.

"but the 360 shows promise"
The Xbox 360 is responsible for over half of the 7th generation spending. Between hardware and software, and the clear lead in Community. The promise has been realized, and its the competitors that are in a position to prove themselves. Clearly MS has already.

"Even if the 360 continues to be a loss leader (although it seems to have finally begin showing signs of profit potential)"
There is nothing "loss leader" about the Xbox 360. Not any more than Wii or PS3. All three are sold as a means to sell Software.

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While there is some grain of "truth" to that section, it is written with a set of presumptions that are universally anti-MS.

No sober, non-emotional analyst would come to those conclusions.

[Zinger]

I agree with some of the points he made besides the fact that he took NPD data for all units. So yes, xbox 360 took north america in 2007, but not the world. NPD numbers just fit his theory better and that is why they were used.

I do agree that the attachment rate for 360 is the best, however, pound for pound (ratio) PS3 is putting up the right numbers to justify their case as well. I think wii is being destroyed in the category right?

All in all, i have to give the author credit for writing on a 360 website about the future looking good for PS3.

[kewlkat007]

tells you something...

"Few would argue that the Xbox 360's sales have been lackluster, so having a high attach rate is a sign that customers aren't simply buying their 360s for one game (say, Halo 3) and then putting them away. "

I think it's,fare to say Sony will gain some steam with some big titles coming out in 2008, and Wii will continue to sell based on it's price point. What I don't understand is why fanboys suggest Halo 3 was the only reason why any gamer would buy he 360. When the Facts speak for themselves.

Like it or not, there will be no True "Winner" in this Gen because each console offers a little of what the other does not. No!!! the Market-Share will not be split 33% amongst all three but no console is going to the early "Grave".

Obviously this guy likes his Xbox 360 but, he has some good points...You cannot just look at just "Hardware Sales" and give Nintendo the crown.

*Hardware/
*Software/
*Peripherals/
*Accessories/
*Network subscriptions/
*Content sold/

All count towards "End of the Year" Success of each console. MS did very well in 2007 and if they continue to bring out good games, Of course they will sell..but this will be Sony's year "if they can play their cards right." I'm still shaky about Nintendo's Game library.

[titntin]

Hmmm..not the worst article I've ever read, but when a console in its second year sells less than it did in its first and is outsold by both its rivals, its hard to make the case for it 'winning'. Nonetehless, he made a valiant attempt, and convieniently stuck with figures based purely on US sales, as any attempt to look outside that market would not have helped his case.
His arguments on attach rate also fall flat- if you look at attach rates for each and every week of data, even in the US, the PS3 has had a higher attch rate for the last 10 weeks - not by a lot in the states, but the fact remians that right now, the average PS3 owner is buying more games for their system than the average 360 user. I've been suprised by that figure, but maybe with all the brilliant titles that were avialbale for us to buy last year, those of with 360's have run out of games money for the moment!! :)

So a pretty well written article, but you can see where he' tried to 'apoaer of the cracks' in his arguments..:)

[Kuest]

In the grand scheme, MS is indeed far from proclaiming "victory, drinks on me!". However, on the micro level; I'm talking relative terms- MS is doing remarkably well. As argued by the author, consider the XBox... now consider the 360. Gain or loss? So, in essence, a relative newcomer to the field has managed to secure a permanent stake in the ever-increasing "adult-toy" industry. Success? of course.. Victory- not yet (or, perhaps, not ever).

In any case, I think this article is an excellent testaments to the unprecedented strides 360 has made since its untimely launch in 2005. Its been tough, hell unbearable (my 360 finally broke on me), but we survived- and gaming has never been as fun.

On a gaming note, I must say that the 360 won UNEQUIVOCALLY in terms of content, online service, and just plain allowing me to express my "inner nerd" through Mass Effect- which, in case you wanted to know, is Bob Marley, Star Wars, and pure sex rolled into one galactic mother ship (called the Normandy). Indeed, too many times have I read "Wii sold more, so its winning!" What? Come again? What about you? What about which systems had the best games for its time? Doesn't that count or is it just sales? My two cents

p.s.
What's happened to N4G?!!! A gamer zone? With no fanboys? My, my- there really is a God somewhere... out there.

[Silver360]

The 360 sold less in its second year because there are fewer people willing to buy it at the $379 price point. All diehards have their system by now and they have to reach out to the casual market to increase their install base. And that price is not a casual price. Ok Sony sold 8.83 million PS3's in their first year, that is less than MS 10.4 million in their first year. And we know both figures are console sold to retailers. Let's just call it a wash at this level of systems sold in the first year. The trick now for Sony as well as MS is to get those prices below $200. Then we can have a console war. When both systems are affordable. And that is the main reason why the wii is eating everyones lunch, the price. Not that it isn't a fun system, it is just priced to damn well to be ignored.

[BardockS30Z]

Sucks

[travelguy2k]

if i figure 8.8 mil. ps3's at 400 bucks (lowest cost avail.) that equals like 3.52 billion, this does not include anything else just consoles in 2008. I don't know about any of the other figures but since this one is suspect i thisn kthey are all inaccurate.

The article in general is good, bhut with accurate figures, the result may be different. (example, subtract a billion from microsoft for rrod)

[ASSASSYN 36o]

To bad 8.8 ps3's were not sold at 400 bucks because the price at launch was nearly twice that.

[lesferdinand]

Which only adds to the point he's trying to make...

But the 8.8 is world wide, article just looks at US.

But it's quite clear the 360 is in fact the most expensive console if you want more than just the basics, hence people spend a lot of money on all those nice, little premium priced options... ;)

While attach rates and stuff are all nice, in the end the number of consoles sold is the most important metric. That's the only thing third parties look at. I guess we'll see a whole lot more Wii titles in 2008...

[bigmoney617]

software Sales are the most important.

same goes with the PS3 with popular games not selling on there because its being used as a blu-ray play for a big % of its user-base.

that does not fly well with developers..they wanna see the games sell by the boatsload or they will jump on the console they can make their money on.

The 360 is mainly for games, since one would not buy it just for a dvd player. so sonys hardware numbers and user-base is skewed..

[Lord_Ash]

The 360 been doing amazingly in SW sales, but this year should be interesting since the Wii and PS3 SW are also gaining steam.

[Ariexv]

Sony only SHIPPED more consoles then the 360 the 360 sold more through to retailers...

[zambrota]

SONY also sold more consoles in 2007

most of the x360s shipped in EUROPE and JAPAN remianed on the shelves last year

even with meagre NA performance PS3 outsold x360 based on strong perf in JAPAN and EUROPE

in EUROPE ps3s were sold out in many regions including France,germany and Spain last XMAS

in NA too PS3 did quite well in december last year.

around 873 000 ps3s were sold in (USA+CANADA) last XMAS.

PS3 sold 1.2 million units at the same time in Europe. x360 managed just 450,000 units at the same time in eu

in Japan around 240 000 ps3s were sold last december vs 29000 x360s

[rofldings]

Sony only counts sales as in sales to customers...

It's clearly stated in their Q3 report as sales to customers, not shipped:

http://www.sony.net/SonyInf...

[i Shank u]

the amount of time youve put into your ps3 diatribes the past year is HUGE man! you could have been playing alot of great 360/ps3 games in that time! they both are great machines for games, dunno why you think otherwise.

since you like them so much do sales numbers give you a boner? :P

[General Pinky]

NPD data guys..look at it..
Microsoft has the USA and THE UK in their hands..everything is sweet for them..

[ASSASSYN 36o]

I own more games for the 360 than I have ever owned for the Pc, n64, dreamcast, and snes at one time. I want an Iphone but I LOVE my ZUNE it is a permanent fixture in my Dodge Charger alot of people on my campus own zunes.

http://www.cardomain.com/ri...

[Nostradamus]

I was in class and two other guys had one, they showed up on my wireless
but we didnt trade songs.

[Nitrogen]

well, that site is called 360.kombo after all

[JOLLY1]

you were just in the 360 area of the website

[mintaro]

very well written article, and made some very good points

[bootsielon]

PS3 sold more, Wii sold more... they're still losing money and are on a 6 billion dollar hole they gotta get out off, there is still RROD, their game line-up isn't really all that (ask japan and europe), the HD-DVD add-on has become completely useless, the HDD, WiFi and other add-ons are horribly expensive, they have yet to lure in a more casual audience, and it's still expensive especially for what it offers. I can only give them some "achievements" credit in their attach rate, but aside from attach rates.

[Kuest]

why would anyone (excluding you) need to ask Europe, or Japan, as to whether or not the 360 lineup for 2007 AND 2008 is impressive? To be honest, I trust my own judgment as an American- so should you.

Moving forward, with regards to the casual market, neither Sony nor MS has obtained a proper foothold with said market, as both are pretty expensive. To date, Wii is the only console with such balls. So, in essence, the causal market is a sore for the HiDef market, which presently is rather diminutive when compared to the average, non HD consumer- which thus accounts for Wiis success with the causal market.

All in all, it is quite foolish of you to denounce MS's console success, especially when considering the fate of dream cast some 7 years ago. Indeed, had MS not existed- PS3 would once again be the leader in OVERALL sales, no matter the time frame (especially, a year's time frame). In fact, a huge of amount of PS3s progression during 2007 (price cuts, exclusive deals, online bump...) can, and should, be attributed to the competition it faced with MS. Again, would Sony have taken the steps it took without the competition of MS?

Finally, what about games? You may rely on other's opinions, but I, for one, am grateful for Bioshock, Mass Effect, Halo 3 along with Killzone, LBP, etc. More to repertoire, my friend. Gamers win! Why? Because MS exists...

[segasage]

fanboys would still write the xbox 360 off, as if it's not even there. with all that Ms has done to come into the tough gaming industry that has been dominated but 2 but more so 1 competitor, the last 8 years.

while not perfect, the fact Ms is still around, they deserve some respect. They have opened this industry and have made it competitive, in terms of pricing and such..

as long as ms continues to bring fresh games and content which sells, making money is all they care about. the whole marketshare thing will play itself out.

[Kuest]

are a disgrace to your kind. For N4G members with only 5 bubbles should not post as intelligently as you do. A paradox has opened, and you are the vortex inside it. Do not worry, though- I have decided to elevate you to your proper footing, segasage.

Bubbles henceforth to ye!

[bootsielon]

"why would anyone (excluding you) need to ask Europe, or Japan, as to whether or not the 360 lineup for 2007 AND 2008 is impressive? To be honest, I trust my own judgment as an American- so should you."

You trust your own judgment as an American? I guess I wouldn't trust anyone else's judgment if they weren't made *as americans*. Anyway, the reason I mention Japan and Europe is because Japan likes *other* kinds of games, while Europe likes variety. The lineup for 360 isn't impressive, it's good for America, it's barely ok for Europe, and it's horrible for Japan.

"Moving forward, with regards to the casual market, neither Sony nor MS has obtained a proper foothold with said market, as both are pretty expensive."

And? We were talking about Xbox 360. This thread is about Xbox 360.

"To date, Wii is the only console with such balls."

Actually, the Wii is the only console that appealed to the casual *first*. It remains to be seen if it will ever appeal to the hardcore with outdated technology, ancient IP, ports from last-gen consoles, and less than mature games.

"So, in essence, the causal market is a sore for the HiDef market, which presently is rather diminutive when compared to the average, non HD consumer- which thus accounts for Wiis success with the causal market."

The HD market is growing faster by the day, and the PS3 is well prepared for that. It already has Blu-ray. Furthermore, the PS3 is well prepared to attract the casual audience with Singstar, Buzz and many other titles that attract large audiences like Gran Turismo. On Xbox 360 though, there is Halo, Banjo and Scene It! None of these consoles have reached the casual market, but the PS3 is well prepared. And again, we were talking about Xbox 360.

"All in all, it is quite foolish of you to denounce MS's console success, especially when considering the fate of dream cast some 7 years ago. Indeed, had MS not existed- PS3 would once again be the leader in OVERALL sales, no matter the time frame (especially, a year's time frame). In fact, a huge of amount of PS3s progression during 2007 (price cuts, exclusive deals, online bump...) can, and should, be attributed to the competition it faced with MS. Again, would Sony have taken the steps it took without the competition of MS?"

You're right about that, and I'm not hating. I'm simply reminding you of some undeniable facts, and how they explain that Xbox 360 is far from having "Won" 2007. It's good to have some competition; after all, without the PlayStation brand, the Xbox would have never existed.

"Finally, what about games? You may rely on other's opinions, but I, for one, am grateful for Bioshock, Mass Effect, Halo 3 along with Killzone, LBP, etc. More to repertoire, my friend. Gamers win! Why? Because MS exists..."

And because the whole industry exists, not just because of Microsoft.

"fanboys would still write the xbox 360 off, as if it's not even there."

And fanboys write others as fanboys when looking at criticism.

"with all that Ms has done to come into the tough gaming industry that has been dominated but 2 but more so 1 competitor, the last 8 years."

Nobody is writing MS off, it's just that MS lacked some vision and experience. They thought that, as usual, money would get them to first place easy. They forgot to learn that the game industry is filled with resentful consumers which explains part of why Xbox 360 isn't as successful as it could be, and varied tastes, which explains why Xbox 360 has yet to penetrate into several audiences.

"while not perfect, the fact Ms is still around, they deserve some respect."

They don't deserve respect for that. They deserve respect for what you say next...

"They have opened this industry and have made it competitive, in terms of pricing and such.."

Yes, Xbox LIVE, making Xbox 360 cheaper than PS3, headstart, design, achievements, you name it. I'm just saying why Xbox 360 DID NOT win. Xbox 360 may have been the winning brand in dollars spent, but it is also the brand with the most kinks to get rid-off. PS3 has gotten ridden of most of its kinks and it's only a matter of time before it gets ridden of almost all of its problems (price, games and eventually backwards compatibility). On the other hand, who knows when Xbox 360 will get full Japanese support, who knows when RROD will go away, who knows when XBL will function properly, and it seems that DVD9 is getting smaller by the day. The Wii's kinks are that it's a casual console with mostly casual games... the outlook on PS3 seems better by the day, while not so great for the other two consoles. Which is ironic, because PS3 is currently in 3rd place (and probably just currently)

"as long as ms continues to bring fresh games and content which sells, making money is all they care about. the whole marketshare thing will play itself out."

Exactly, that's what I've been saying all along, Microsoft should stop focusing on beating Sony. They should focus on profiting and bringing a great product and service to the market.

"are a disgrace to your kind. For N4G members with only 5 bubbles should not post as intelligently as you do. A paradox has opened, and you are the vortex inside it. Do not worry, though- I have decided to elevate you to your proper footing, segasage."

Don't exaggerate, I remember him calling me names once. He's not that good.

[Kuest]

I must give props to you, bootsielon. For not just anyone would exhauset so much effort to justify a single point (I sure wouldn't). I will accept, for now, your argument- adding that while the 360 is far from a prominent actor with respects to the gaming market, it is, in fact, a pivotal actor nonetheless. To deny as much would simply be a gross overstatement, and I recognize that you're not a fool, but a man with sense. I fairly enjoyed reading your response (as long as it was) and look forward to chatting with you in the future.

By the way, I have bequethed your current bubble count with fresh, green feedback. Enjoy and... who did you vote for? Obama or clinton?

[PSWe60]

sure it won,
most complaints, most phone calls to the local Fire Department, most likely to be defective, highest failure rate, dumbest fanboys, most corporate bosses to jump ship in the shortest period of time, most ignored in a single territory, loudest, biggest gluton of electricity, largest amount of money spent on warranties...need I continue?

[kingme71]

When you say which console has won, not really sure there is going to be a clear cut winner as KewlKat said like you had with the PS2. That makes it better all around for the consumer as it keeps Sony/Nintendo/MS on their toes.

If as the article says the 360 is the '07 winner, doesn't necessarily mean MS was the '07 winner as they had to take a 1 billion dollar hit for faulty hardware.

[Spike47]

plain dumb.

The PS3 sold more than the xbox360 in 2007, and if it actually did'nt then it just about tied with it even though the xbox360 had halo3 ,bioshock,etc.

Who's winning now? The console with all the games gets beaten by a console that has been bashed by the media and has no games.

The wii? The wii is doing better than all consoles, even with the xbox360's headstart the wii sold more total.

people are saying this article is nice, well the person who wrote the article REALLY KNOWS HOW TO SPIN THINGS.

With the wii doing way better, the ps3 in 2008 with promising titles, and the xbox360 not doing well even with all the major games,

I predict Wii for 1st, ps3 for 2nd, xbox360 in 3rd by 2009.

And I agree Ms has done alot for this industry, BUT HECK ANY COMPANY WOULD CONTRIBUTE IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT.

jeez, if apple arrived then it would contribute in some ways.

For Me, Sony has raised the bar for quality gaming, Ms has raised the bar for the games, and nintendo has just raised the bar for innovation.

[segasage]

"And I agree Ms has done alot for this industry, BUT HECK ANY COMPANY WOULD CONTRIBUTE IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT. "

I'am thinking about it...let see what happened to

3D0, Dreamcast,Jaguar..gizmondo..lo l

not just anybody can come into this industry and make others stumble or rethink their strategy...

[Mattearl]

You know... that is a great way to look at this so called "Console War."

I really liked that article. It puts many things in perspective. I'm actually really excited to see what Sony brings to us this year.

I'm really hoping the PS3 will blossom this year.

[harpua]

geeeezus, i haven't seen this much BS spin since Bill Clinton was explaining why an intern was under his desk.

[beoulve]

This article is pretty much skew toward XBOX 360.
While I admit XBOX 360 won, but so did Nintendo and surprise surprise Sony too. Everybody making profit.

XBOX 360 won by software and early start that put them in Black. Nintendo won by gainning the most ground, their first party software is selling like crazy, Yes more than HALO. If you look at HALO sales, it just one big rush and then steep decline, but Nintendo's first party like Wii sports are still mounting and mounting. Sony also won despite expected underperforming and constant bash by media, they still prevail and be able to outsell XBOX 360 in 2007 in hardware, and most remarkably put them in back in black in one year.

My point is everybody won 2007, one can just take a few point and start going into detail to proof his/her console's triumph.

[Kuest]

So, you say all consoles have generally prospered, and so it happens that corporations remain financially secure. Goody, that's what I always wanted!
*Wipes sweat off forehead*

It seems i may once again start thinking about me. Just me...thank you for the epiphany, Mr. Beoulve. Your post gave me clarity.

Edit: to a very kewlkat

Oh, excuse mister "I own everything"; that's right mister "I've got more bubbles than kuest". Who do you think you are?

We have a history, man. You pmed like a year ago to give me some good advice. I see you took it as well, judging by how much you've changed from a year (bubbles, bubbles).

p.s
What's your favorite system? C'mon buddy, spit it out! Is it the sixty, or 3? FLAME WARRRR!!!

Man, i love this gamer zone thing- to think what I just did was illegal. Delicious...

[kewlkat007]

"GamerZone"...Hell I'll always Win. Own all 3 console and have plenty of choices, Exactly why.

Good comment..

[Bubble Buddy]

I won 2007 muhaha :)

[trancefreak]

At least u know your 360 is great multi purpose device. After the infamous ring of death appears then the x360 turns into a valued floor heater threw those long lonely cold winter nights. Not a bad investment after all:)

[captainjy]

Hey uh, Trancefreak....you pick football teams like you pick gaming consoles- looks big and bad, but it's just for show.

[snoopgg]

I don't think you can say they won anything. As much as I like my 360, I think that 2008 is the year of the ps3. As far as consoles go, I am a graphics nut and the wi just can't do anything in that department. Sorry nintendo, your console won the most underpowered last generation, cruddy software lineup award. I mean one can only play so much wi sports. What other games you have? You also win for having the cheapest console.

[darkshiz]

360 winning is a joke compared to the accomplishment of the wii.
Almost 20 million in 1 year.
6 more years it'll catch up to PS2.

360 about 7 - 8 million a year for 2 years.
Wii sold 2x as much in 1.

Software sold or not Nintendo made the most money this year anyways.

Shiet I hate the wii as a console but damn it's doing good.