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Helping or hurting? Xbox 720's delay impact on the Wii U and Playstation 4

Xbox 720's potential delay could impact more companies and gamers than you know. Check out what effects the delay could have on the Wii U, Playstation 4 and yes, even the Xbox 720.

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OneAboveAll4265d ago

Who cares if it impacts Nintendo or Sony? They are the competition...

EVILDEAD3604264d ago

First off it was nothing but rumors and conjecture that the 720 was coming next holiday in the first place… Just like it’s a rumor now that it won’t be coming because of the chip.

In any case it does nothing but help MS and the verdict is out on what impact it have on the other two companies.

Although, the Wii-U may have its own success, MS set-up the 360 to still have a huge holiday. Third party is not going anywhere. NOBODY is running away from install bases headed towards 70 million anytime soon.

Couple that with the fact, that next year is going to be filled with huge hitters like GTA V and the current systems will still dominate.

This will lead into E3 where MS will show off the 720 and announce it for the following year.

Nintendo can gain ground but let’s face it when you are talking a Fall/ holiday that will include Battlefield vs. Modern Warfare 4 vs. Bungie’s new shooter coupled with the promise of a new system the following holiday it remains to be seen if the 360 loses any ground next year as well.

Developers will have an entire extra year to work on their next gen debuts and the 720 will have more adopters who are hardcore gamers on Xbox Live in the transition.

Releasing last gen at the same time as the PS3 wiuld have been suicide, but releasing near the PS4 won't hurt the 720 at all.

Evil

Chaostar4264d ago (Edited 4264d ago )

Nobody is attacking the 360 or MS here there's no need to jump to their defense. We all know this generations consoles still have some life left in them and should continue to sell and be supported well after the next gen launch.

I clicked disagree on your comment because, it seems to me, you're trying to make out like a hypothetical delay of 720 would have absolutely no negative impact on MS at all. I believe, considering the massive advantage a head start has afforded MS this gen, that whoever gets onto the market first will reap the same benefits, given a big enough time-frame. After all, people always include 360s year head start sales when squabbling over figures, so wouldn't a hypothetical head start for PS4 give the Sony crowd that same ammunition?

It may not seem like much to you but the perception of success can do wonders to sway not only fans but also the consideration of third party studios.

My point is that a delay would have negative connotations to ANY console particularly if their competitors have already made it to market.

I do agree with your point about the extra time developers will have to polish games, although this was also mentioned in the article.

EVILDEAD3604264d ago

@ Chaostar,

Show me one place where I say the 360 or MS is under attack. The article is called is about the 720s perceived delay and whether it helps or hurts the other big two.

But when I give an opinion that differs from an article it's 'jumping to their offense'. You have a different opinion and proclaim yours, so whose defense are you jumping to?

Once again this was all about a rumored delay to a rumored release date.

'After all, people always include 360s year head start sales when squabbling over figures, so wouldn't a hypothetical head start for PS4 give the Sony crowd that same ammunition?'

LOL..so this is about ammunition? First, there is a HUGE difference between last gen and this gen. If you read I specifically mention that going head-to-head again Sony SEVEN years ago would have been suicide.

They jumped in earlier than Sony because the literally had to.

This time Sony clearly isnt in the position at the moment to launch the PS4 next holiday. The new model relaunch makes sense, but the PS4 isnt coming.

The reason the Wii-U is a missed opportunity is for one reason. Ninteno did NOT make the current gen obsolete at all.

They havent hurt the 360s biggest strengths which is Xbox Live, The HUGE first & 3rd party franchises, and Kinect.

Install bases do play a factor late in the gen which is why the original Xbox never could penetrate the PS3 stronghold on 3rd party franchises.

If you read, I said the Wii-U will have success, but it still won't effect the success of the 360, nor hurt the launch of the 720.

Once again, the 360 is still set up for a huge holiday THIS year. Next year, there a HUGE blockbusters coming for the current gen that again speaks to the lack of need for MS to pull the trigger on the 720.

Then once, E3 rolls around they simply show off the 720 just like Nintendo did with the Wii last year and ride it out till the following Fall/Holiday season.

Again, this gives MS and developers time to really hit it out of the park at launch, The article pretends that devs will be sitting on their thumbs because they would have expected to release their games next holiday.

I specifically say, that there is room for ALL consoles to do well. But, the climate of the the gaming world is far different than it was 7-8 years ago.

Evil

AngelicIceDiamond4265d ago (Edited 4265d ago )

So your gonna right about An unannounced next gen console getting delayed? and impacting one other unannounced console? Oook

I hate when people take rumors seriously.

taquito4265d ago (Edited 4265d ago )

both ps4 and 720 delay are hurting the console gaming sector, down 20% year over year so far, steady decline

people are moving to the freedom of pc, better control options, way better online, WAY better prices, WAY WAY WAY better graphics and sweet sweet mods!

DwightOwen4264d ago

What's this "720" everyone keeps going on about? Is that an accessory to the KinectBox that Microsoft will release next Christmas?

steve30x4264d ago

How could Xbox 720 be delayed when it doesnt even have a release date?

PopRocks3594264d ago

This is in response to a recent rumor that the 720 is facing issues with its hardware (possibly modified Gamecube tech) and that Microsoft is outsourcing it to three different factories to try and fix the problem. This is apparently causing the 'delay.'

Of course it's all rumor. So this post here is all just speculation pretending to be factual.

steve30x4264d ago

Typical N4G. People disagree with the truth.

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

Relientk7711h ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE8h ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware7308h ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

Skuletor5h ago

Just merge them all into a single studio, have it churn out a single Call of Duty every year and call it a day, lol.

Barlos5h ago

Don't be scared, you'll be fine.

Skuletor5h ago

It's exputer, fine is one word I would not associate with them.

Profchaos5h ago

I think it's becoming clear based on matt bootys comments there's no future for any IP that can't sell above 10 million within the launch window. But is also a small game that gives them prestige

/S it's beyond a joke right now

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus232d ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

KwietStorm_BLM1d 19h ago

So you do understand it or..?

rokos1d 17h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb331d 16h ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC1d 7h ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled2d ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies1d 20h ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear211d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k42d ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot2d ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC1d 7h ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615861d 16h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k41d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k41d 11h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody2d ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead2d ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage1d 18h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast2d ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19792d ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19791d 15h ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage1d 18h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead4d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel4d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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