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Digital Distribution : It's not the future, it's right now.

"Change and the ability to accept and adapt to changes made: it’s what separates humans from the dinosaurs."

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Droid Control4674d ago

The thing is, if you buy something from Steam you know you have it forever. If you buy a game off XBL or PSN you don't know if it will run on 720/1440 or PS4/PS5

ChunkyLover534674d ago

Didn't they just make people sign some kind of weird user agreement on Steam?

I don't trust fully digital content in the least, not to mention that I have a bandwidth limit of 150 gigs a month, which might sound like a lot, but when you remember that streaming a show on Netflix takes up a couple of gigs by itself, you see the position that I and a lot of other people are in.

Cant have a digital now, or future when so many people wont even be able to download anything.

TitanUp4674d ago

users also had to sign a weird agreement on ps3 almost the same thing as steam users.

negative4674d ago

You don't need it to run on the 720/1440 or PS4/PS5. Just hold onto the hardware you buy it on.

decrypt4674d ago

Hardware tends to go bad in the long run, so are you going to keep rebuying old hardware and for how long are you going to keep doing that, later are you going to rebuy multiple old hardware like maybe when PS6 is out you going to keep rebuying PS3,4 & 5? that surely isnt sustainable.

With Steam or any other PC digital service, you only need a PC it can be the latest hardware or can be old it will run the games. There is no such thing as new hardware not running old games (95% of games from 25 years ago still work) Be it via Emulation etc whatever, it just works.

TheDivine4673d ago

Decrypt the same can be said of a pc. Pc's go bad and you will have to rebuy a pc to play your games. If a ps3 goes bad rebuy a ps3 (which will be cheaper down the road also). All dd is based on having the hardware to run it. I have to have a pc to watch my digital movies and listen to music. If my laptop craps out i need a replacement. The only benefit steam has is than any hardware (pc wise) can access it vs only rebuying a ps3 or 360.

My only problem is will the servers for consoles stay up (to redownload games and whatnot). Thats the only real problem. Consoles HAVE to be bc nowadays with so much content (dlc, arcade games, full dd games) being sold. If the next ps or ms system doesnt play my arcade games i prob wont buy it until its under 200. It has to be bc with disk titles also or no buy until its cheap.

DD can help us gamers. Look at FF Type-0. They wont release it because of cost. With psn theycan release it for psp and vita for virtually no cost and mostly all profit. Why they wont is beyond me. What im against is this streaming bullshit. Now dd copies of movies you get in blurays are for streaming only. If cloud gets big we wont be able to have disks or dd games which is the real problem. DD is a nice compliment to retail to help small publishers and niche games. Cloud will become the devil. Imagine itunes making you stream your music and not be able to have it play without 3g/4g. HELL NO.

Summons754674d ago (Edited 4674d ago )

you technically don't have it forever seeing as the terms of agreement says they can take away things and shut down without reason. Then you would not have it. Same with xbox and playstation. You only buy the rights to play the game, you never actually own the game and that's a big reason why we shouldn't support Digital Download. Personally I like to own my games and pick them up, toss them around if they're terrible etc etc. Digital only media will never take the place of Physical media it's plain and simple no matter how you look at it.

Digital is for the XBLA or PSNA games as well as steam but why would you wanna be something digital when you can own it completely as physical.

NYC_Gamer4674d ago (Edited 4674d ago )

The same reason many of us buy songs from Itunes and watch movies/tv shows on Netflix instead of buying them from retail...Options are always good in my opinion...

Summons754674d ago

Watching shows on netflix is the equivalent of renting them. You don't own them and your not paying full price for every movie it's 8 bucks for unlimited movies. Buying digital is 60 bucks per game for not owning your game, how dose that even come close to being comparable to netflix

NYC_Gamer4674d ago (Edited 4674d ago )

@Summons75

I have never paid 60 bucks for any digital game bought from Steam...Valve is good on that end at giving customers more value for their dollar..Console brands need to adapt and offer the same type of deals on software if they wanna move forward with digital....It's hard for MS/Sony/Nintendo because they depend on retail to sell their hardware.....Digital and physical software can exist together....

Jdoki4674d ago

I don't fully agree with that Droid Control.

There's many games, such as DOS games, Win 95 games etc that were great fun - but they don't work properly now.

A good example is the move from 386SX to DX chips - Doom would not run on an SX. Or the move from 32bit to 64bit OS's causing incompatibility with some games. Who is to say there won't be a similar evolution of hardware or software in future.

All we can really say is that you 'own' the games on either console or PC until the point where either your console breaks or Sony/MS stop you downloading the games. And with a PC version you own the game unless Steam decides to remove it from their library, or the hardware / OS causes incompatibility and you no longer have a compatible PC.

Where there is an argument, is over Backwards compatibility in consoles, and emulators on PC.

DeadlyFire4674d ago (Edited 4674d ago )

BS. This is only the begining of Digital. Its nowhere near the normal thing. As people still fear any new Digital service. OnLive crashing, and Fear of EA sapping the life out of you with Origin service are two of many recent things that have come to light to show that Digital is still a long way away, but if things are set right then it will last and grow.

One. As we do not own a game for more than one generation. A service like Gaikai or another cloud service with PSN built around and in it without it being essential so that downloads are still an option, but say all of our last gen content is saved on the cloud.

There is a global standard for broadband to reach 100 Mbps to 50+ percent of nearly every country between 2017-2027.

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Rhythmattic4674d ago

All the PS+ digital content I download, the rest I buy to own as a Physical copy.

Not to shabby really.

JKelloggs4674d ago

Same with me, and if a game is on sale on PSN or is cheaper than the physical counterpart (once in a blue moon) then I'll but it off of the store

dazzrazz4674d ago

Thing is console games on demand compared to those available in retail form are still overpriced as hell, so I refuse to adapt

NYC_Gamer4674d ago

Console brands do that on purpose because they still depend on retail shops to sell their hardware

Jdoki4674d ago

I thought Sony (at least) had clarified that they don't set the prices of the full downloadable games - the publisher / distributor does.

The games Sony does publish seem to be closer to retail or at least offered on sale more frequently - it's the EA / Activision that seem to be going for full RRP (or higher)

Xperia_ion4674d ago

I like having a mix of both

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89 million Steam account details allegedly leaked, but no one seems to know how

A LinkedIn post from Underdark AI made the discovery, stating that datasets are being sold for over $5,000 on a known black market forum.

Cockney42d ago

Biggest hack in gaming history if true

Christopher42d ago

No personal details, mostly account names, no passwords. Likely would need other account leaks to hope that someone reuses a password with a similar account name on another already leaked service. While a lot of users, the data is useless. Kind of notably by the $5k request for the data.

FinalFantasyFanatic40d ago

Plus, if you have 2FA enabled, then you were at zero risk anyway, from what I've read, Steam isn't even recommending password changes as it's apparently unnecessary.

VariantAEC35d ago

@Christopher
Where are you getting that from?
The linked article above says, "The seller claims this is a “fresh” leak and says it includes usernames, passwords, two-factor SMS logs, message contents, metadata, delivery status, and other sensitive details." Which sure sounds like they might have a lot of other information. If this leak is legitimate I better stop hearing people falsely say PSN is the worst secured digital storefront (even though that hasn't been true for a very long time with far larger data breaches since 2011 all over the world including the Equifax breach which was several times larger).

VariantAEC35d ago

@FinalFantasyFanatic
That seems true only if you use Steam Guard. If you opted for T2A via SMS the article suggests it's time to make the switch to Steam Guard and of course change your password.

Christopher35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

From the credit URL: https://x.com/MellowOnline1...

The article doesn't do a good job of going into the updated detail, they just mention part of it.

Just because the seller claims something, doesn't make it true. If it truly contained that data, it would be worth way more than just $5k. SMS systems don't rely on getting passwords for accounts they're sending an SMS to, just the username, phone number, and timestamp info.

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Profchaos40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

You don't remember the psn hack I take it

Cockney40d ago

I do remember it being 77 million, thats why I made my comment

BlueDaBaDee40d ago

Update:
"Valve has now confirmed that “this was NOT a breach of Steam systems” and users do not need to change their passwords as a result. However, it continues to recommend that you set up the Steam Mobile authenticator for extra security."

https://store.steampowered....

Fishy Fingers40d ago

Shame. I liked the idea someone paid 5 grand just for my silly steam name.

DivineHand12540d ago

The government needs a taskforce with serious fundung that can opporate across borders to go after cyber criminals.

It is getting out of hand and it is the regular citizens of the world that suffer the consequences of these hacks and breaches.

My fear is that if left unchecked, state sponsored hackers from corrupt or governents under sections may use this as a method of raising revenue at the expense of everyone else.

Fishy Fingers40d ago

Bro teeing up a Mission Impossible movie.

ZeekQuattro40d ago

Not in this administration. If anything hes been dissolving existing task forces meant to protect consumers.

Amplitude40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

Why? They’d just use the funding to funnel hundred of millions of dollars into fake NGOs that then funnel it into democrat pockets while doing zero cyber criminal defence work.

Then if anybody tried to defund them it’d be a whole thing with the mainstream media claiming that there will be endless cyber attacks. NGOs would then fund protest groups to attack anybody that supports defunding the government’s cyber attack defence branch and then it would turn out it was also being used to stabilize or destabilize governments in other countries and overthrow elections to benefit America. Which is fine until they start using it on us again.

Let’s just not. Private companies who know what they’re doing (Valve) can deal with it

RIP USAID. God bless

Profchaos40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

It's not a may use this not we know state sponsored attacks do this already.

It's a global problem you couldn't have one government playing world police it would require joint collaboration with foreign governments and the problem is many laws have not kept pace with advancement of technology.

even then it's hard to say with certainty if an attack was a state sponsored attacks or a cybercriminal group operating outside of governments

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pwnmaster300040d ago

remember when certain groups were saying PC gamers don’t want other subscriptions because it was not safe and steam was the spot lol.

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badz14940d ago

it's time to riot, right, pc gamers??

pwnmaster300040d ago

Be careful, PC gamers are the most touchy out of the gamers lol

staticall40d ago

@badz149
@pwnmaster3000
Have you guys actually read what was «leaked»? It was SMS messages from 3rd party provider (not from Steam itself) with one-time 2FA codes (that are active for 15 minutes). No Steam account details, access to an account or any of that jazz.

Let me quote official Steam response:
«The leak consisted of older text messages that included one-time codes that were only valid for 15-minute time frames and the phone numbers they were sent to. The leaked data did not associate the phone numbers with a Steam account, password information, payment information or other personal data. Old text messages cannot be used to breach the security of your Steam account, and whenever a code is used to change your Steam email or password using SMS, you will receive a confirmation via email and/or Steam secure messages.»
Source: https://store.steampowered....

The only bad thing about this is the phone numbers. But while that sucks, attacker doesn't know which Steam account this phone number belongs to. IMO, the only thing people should be rioting about is how unprotected the SMS are and the 3rd party service that was used by Steam. I'm all for punishing people who screwed up and/or lacked the security. But this is not it.

FinalFantasyFanatic40d ago

Why riot? They have nothing of value, can't even steal an account with the details they have, they would have to attempt a brute force attack, you can already do that with a Steam user's account name (or any account on any site) if you really wanted to spend the time and processing power to do it.

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Creature Collector Fest hits Steam with some epic discounts

The Creature Collector Fest event has come to steam until May 19. Here are some epic discounted games to scratch the critter gathering itch.

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Unmourned is a new horror title made by 2 brothers from Greece

Codebros Studio comes from Thessaloniki Greece and presents us with their new horror game Unmourned which you can check out now on Steam.

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