FanCensus says: "It has been reported that Sony Studio Liverpool has been closed. Founded in 1984 as Psygnosis the developer is responsible for the much loved Wipeout series as well as my favourite the Destruction Derby series."
WTF!!!!!!!!!!! this is sad news, what was the reason? i don't understand. EDIT: so this isn't sad news? really? to whoever disagreed.
Yeah, I don't get it. This news is worthy of 100x "What in the flying fu*k, Sony??!". T_T Also, what in freaking flying fu*k, Sony? I've always supported what they did, but as of late...
While it's sad it's expected to me. Unfortunately their games just are selling, and I guess it cost more money to keep them around than the profit they're bringing in, so any wise business who choose to let them go. The WipEout games haven't broke the 500K (generally the point of profit for most games) threshold in sales since WipEout Pure for the PSP (2005). Although WipEout HD sales can't be tracked thanks to PSN, this still bodes bad for the franchise and the company. Their other games as of late "Motorstorm" has been on a downward spiral since the first game with the latest game Motorstorm Apocalypse struggling to pass the 500k mark as well. THe sad part is that both games are really good regardless of sales, but like the FPS genre the racing genre is too crowded (although not as much as FPS's), and worse the genre isn't as popular as it once was. You have Burnout, Need 4 Speed, Midnight Club, Ridge Racer, and Dirt varying for you money. On top of that other good racers come out like Pure, Split Second, and Blur. Then add in each consoles main selling franchises Gran Turismo, Forza and there's just too many racers to choose from. That's 11 different racing games for the PS3 (excluding Twisted Metal). A wonderful and great variety, but at the end of the day TOO MANY unless you're a hardcore racing fan. But it not just an underperforming and overcrowded genre, it's gamers fault as well. For everyone saying they love these franchises and are sadden by the closure the sales didn't show it. While gaming is only a hobby for use IT'S A BUSINESS for them, and if money's not being made then someone's losing their job. Hopefully it turns out to be a false rumor, because I don't want anyone to lose their job. Maybe they need a chance to design some other kind of game (different genre), or take the team and split them up among other studios.
ABizzel I agree, it's a very sad state of affairs though and truly a bummer for me. I got Wipeout for free after the PSN fiasco, I would have bought it to support the studio had I known how good that game is. Wipeout is one of the most addictive racing games I have ever played, and it's a game the racing genre NEEDS. Of all the racing games you mentioned, not one can be compared to Wipeout, not because it's better than they are, but because it's unique, it has style, and lots of it. long live studio Liverpool and please Sony, make more Wipeout games. I love them so much.
made some great old school games. Shadow of the Beast especially was good. The turbografx super cd version is hands down the best (personally speaking) but obviously their talent on the amiga was what caught Sony's eye back in the day.
This is fucking HORRIBLE! I PLAYED EVERY SINGLE WIPEOUT GAME SINCE THE PS1 LAUNCH WTF!!! It's the only racing games I played this gen.
I think we should wait for an official announcement. If this is true though it's a dumb move from Sony, these guys have been with them since the first Playstation and delivered some amazing games. Hopefully it's just hear say.
Wipeout 2048 Facebook page: " "As some of you may have heard Sony have chosen to close Studio Liverpool as of today. This page will no longer be maintained by the WipEout Team.We have loved making every game, every minute and every one of you. Keep the faith, keep loving WipEout.Thank you for everything, Pilots. It's been an amazing journey and we'll miss you."
Awww this sucks! The UK barely has any game Studios left as it is. Wipeout is/was always a game you could count on to be good and a good showcase for Sony's platforms. Not happy about this at all a little piece of my childhood has just been shutdown.
NO MORE WIPEOUT? i just bought Wipeout 2048 with all the DLC!!!!i love it!! FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU U UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU U UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.. . ..............
Does this mean no more Wipeout? What will i buy for my PS4 as launch title?! These guys are so talented, hopefully they either start their own mini studio or get merged into other Sony first party studios.
Sony Liverpool was working on two PlayStation 4 launch titles, Eurogamer has been told by a reliable source. One of these was, unsurprisingly, a WipEout game described to us as "dramatically different" than previous games in the series. Another was a Splinter Cell-style game. A source described the WipEout game as "far along". It had been in development for between 12 and 18 months. A separate source told Eurogamer that the other game began life as a gangster style experience before it evolved into something akin to Splinter Cell. We've also heard that it used motion capture tech similar to that used by Team Bondi for LA Noire, but it was "a bit ahead of it". All Sony Liverpool projects were cancelled by Sony this morning. Source: http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
The same eurogamer report said that Sony is trying to redistribute the staff to other studios/departments. They know they have talent there but they also knew it was time to do something else. Unfortunate.
Wait now...Who disagreed? LOL! I just posted news from Eurogamer. It's funny as soon as I post, I get a disagree on almost all my posts, no matter what I say, and I am as neutral a gamer as you can get, I play on everything...Who disagreed, common tell me why? Cya...
This is N4G. Do you really need to ask that question? Understanding the mind of a fanboy is like understanding the meaning of life. Few will ever achieve that while alive on this Earth.
No Way!!!!!! I wait for the official announce by SONY.
Man this sucks hope WipEout gets made by another of Sony's 1st party devs also good luck to all the people that worked at Studio Liverpool Sent from my PS Vita
i feel you theunleashed64.. i was looking forward to a new destruction derby game.. dd2 was so dope on the ps1. i had endless hrs going the oposite way and causing a mass destruction.
That ain't good
What!? Why in the name of everything would you do that? Who is going to develop WipEout?! Unless they're being merged with another studio, this is awful. Edit: If they HAVE to close a studio... SCE London, seriously.
"If they HAVE to close a studio... SCE London, seriously" Well maybe the internal report should more potential of sales with SCE London than the Liverpool studio. SCE London make the Singstar and eye pet franchises. Granted SCE Studio Liverpool made Wipeout (good series) it probably isn't as viable than Singstar and eye pet games who can be the family branch of Sony. I would agree with that decision
SCE London, make the highly profitable PS Home so they won't be going anywhere. Sucks Liverpool had to close
How are these guys closed and Team ICO still up and running? And I don't even have a PS3
Who is to say team ICO could or couldn't be next. It may come after the release of TLG. I don't think they would close them while they are in the middle of their project.
How long have they been "in the middle" of that project though?
I agree they have been working on it for along time. But it would push it back even more if they just closed team ico and give it to another one of their studios. Because the new studio may not share the same vision team ico did in creating it. i think if sony does decide to do it. they will wait and see how the game turns out before they close it down. but that may mean that the sells and the quality have to be good for the lenth of time it took to make it.
I don't see how team ICO managed to get themselves in such a financial state without even releasing one game this gen...It's pretty ridiculous if you ask me. As for studio liverpool closing I hope it's just being a new studio being re-named or remade. Because without them where is wipeout and my new favorite racing I.P. Motorstorm?
Evolution Studios make Motorstorm. They are a different company to Liverpool
I'm pretty sure they just moved these guys elsewhere. Could have been a management dispute, since "reprioritization" usually means shifting people to different studios, which are owned/managed by different people. Sony still has the Wipeout IP, and they'll still use it, just with another studio.
"As some of you may have heard Sony have chosen to close Studio Liverpool as of today. This page will no longer be maintained by the WipEout Team.We have loved making every game, every minute and every one of you. Keep the faith, keep loving WipEout.Thank you for everything, Pilots. It's been an amazing journey and we'll miss you." Wipeout Facebook page
This generation is the worst in the gaming history, several well-known studios 1st/3rd party had been closed.. Due to tough economy and tough competition..
... and other major ones corrupted.
THE F**K?!? Bad decision Sony, BAD decision.
Sad sad news. Liverpool Studio games = day one purchase for me.
could have something to do with the fact that since 2008 theyve basically only released a single game in 3 different flavours. Wipeout HD (2008) was a HD port of the PSP games. Wipeout HD Fury (2009) was an expansion pack that consisted mainly of the remaining content from the PSP games. Wipeout 2048 (2012) is, as you have probably guess, just more of the same but on the Vita. So there was 1 PSN game, 1 PSN expansion pack, and 1 Vita game thats 99% the same as the PSN game. and yes, i know that HD was released at retail after the fact, but it doesnt change the fact that its a PSN game. in this day and age, 1 game being rehashed every few years with no other games released in between is just simply not good enough. when you factor in sonys extreme financial troubles, its pretty easy to see why they were shut down. theyll just hire the best developers from them for other studios. "How are these guys closed and Team ICO still up and running?" give it time - the last guardian, if it ever releases, will be the last team ico game ever released.
You are pretty on the money here. I'm loathe to do this, but because I'm a believer in fair justice and all that.... I must.....*shutter* I must issue you a bubble. :(
I agree with you there. Although Id think that the different versions are quite different. atleast PSP -PS3. The vehicle design and tracks remains for the most part the same. Ps3 version is more advanced and has more features and settings etc. and on the technology side of things I think Wipeout HD was the first console game with adaptive render resolution, I might be wrong but at least its the earliest one I know. Other games have been using it recently such as Motorstorm apocalypse and Gears of war 3, both evolution and epic have praised this solution for their latest games. Anyway Liverpool always made smooth games, while they only made different versions of 1 game this gen I am sad to see them go.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUU I was going to do my work experience there >_<
Was it a confirmed place or you wanted to? Because SCE liverpool is still open, it's just studio liverpool that has been closed. I tried to get Work Experience there once but wasn't allowed due to various reasons.
No they said all places for this year had already been filled. So they told me to reapply this September for place next year. Guess it won't happen now?
Ms has opened a ton of new studios which bring them to around 20. I had no idea ms has bought this many studios as of late but google it if you dont believe me as they now have more studios then sony even before this one closes. Im stating 100% facts so do your research before you disagree with me since it does not make sony look good and on n4g thats what most of the disagrees Are about. Does it make sony look good then you agree if its true and sony looks bad then disagree. All I am saying is respond to me if you think sony has more first party studios then ms as all i here on here is ms closes studios and sony does not when its the other way around as of late. Ms is positioning themselves for next gen with there new studios and having them currently working on exclusive downloadable titles like sony is doing with there new ips other than beyond and last of us as puppeteer and several others are psn games. Ms I know is working on lococycle and the rpg new ip arcade title which are safe investments this late in the gen and full retail titles with the many new studios ms has. Lots of fanboy crap has been debunked lateley with facts showing ms has more exclusive games every year so far over sony and ms now has more studios internally then sony and sony is the one shutting them down. Didnt sony just close the socomb studio as well? I think they will be closing many more that are large and not profitable if they want to remain in business many more things will be coming.
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You didn't miss much. Just more stealth boasting about Microsoft...
me neither, i seen the blue avatar and moved on lol.
Disappointed with Sony, but hey it's a game of finance....
No more WipEout ? I can't believe it. PlayStation IS WipEout. I'm sure they will merge the studio with another one cause this can't be true.
They should have closed Sony San Diego Studio instead.
that would be stupid there the ones that make mlb the show one of the best if not the best baseball game out there
You can't ride off the back of one (waning) title forever. No big loss. Wipeout isn't a system seller anymore. 2048 is proof of that.
WoW, I'm really pissed. I know some people will laugh, but I feel Wipeout is sony's best franchise. I get offended when people call it a pod racing game. AG Systems for ever!
i remember when these guys used to be psygnosis. it's sad another dev team gets closed down maybe they will get put into Sony's other teams.
too bad. but i am sure Sony will continue the wipeout series somehow. A studio closing does not mean that the IP is lost. Another Sony studio can pick this up. at least I hope :)
Sony should just close every studio except Naughty Dog, and just build that studio 5 times bigger and have them make several games. Between Sony's debt the last couple of years, horrible marketing and mostly uninteresting exclusives I don't see the studio closing spree ending anytime soon. This is like their 5th closing in the last 6 months. And they're not small-time studios either.
Instead, you should just close your mouth.
This comment was just...... wrong.
nah, we actually like games.
I find this genuinely saddening. Sony continue to allocate resources to their failed endeavours such as Move and the destined-to-be-failure, Wonderbook. I really think they're out of touch with their consumers.
What's wrong with Wonderbook? I love new tech and will be looking at picking this up once my kids are old enough.
WTF fucking MS fanboys got nothing better to do "Ohh sony is so fucked close down all the studio!!!!"....(insert more bullshit). yeh close down all studio and go M$ route with only halo and gears alternating and kinect shovelwares each year. OT: Really sad to see Wipeout and Motorstorm devs go such a waste... I agree with some of the comments here on WHY sony is still funding garbage projects for PSmove and other casual crap and chooses to close down studios that make QUALITY games or cancel potentially GREAT games that are in development in exchange for the likes of eye pet. It ain't like eye pet or the PSmove crap sells billions either anyways so why choose them over 8-days or getaway or wipeout? I dont really see what they gained by doing this move.
Well this is depressing, I recently applied for a job there as a tester.
When's the interview? /badjoke
Genuinely disheartening news this is. Loved the games this studio came out with and its a shame to see them go :(
Well this sucks. So they closed down BigBig, Zipper, and Liverpool :( At least they bought Sucker Punch and they'll probably buy Quantic Dream later :)
They also bought Evolution Studios & Media Molecule this gen
Weird, the official site still shows job vacancies for Studio Liverpool! :/ http://www.worldwidestudios... http://www.playstationjobs.... Sad if true, I can't find the source for the official Sony statement even though it is repeated everywhere. They could have made cuts elsewhere but assume they must have good reason to close them if it is true.
I understand why publishers close studios even though it's sad people lost their jobs
Destruction Derby was such a great game...I'll remember them for that primarily me thinks.