Devil May Cry 4 - 7/10 - "A last-gen game in next-gen clothing"

Gameplayer has gone live with their review of the hotly anticipated Devil May Cry 4. Despite the hype around the game, they summarize that the gameplay simply isn't up to this generation's standard.

"DMC was undoubtedly a great slab of action when it first came out in 2001, but now the formula just feels a little dated and unrefined."

[gamesblow]

Exactly what I've been saying all along... Ho and hum, folks.

[SSCOOLCHEA]

this is my genre of games but after downloading the demo i never quite got into it . maybe because i never played the first one .

[Darkiewonder]

they suggested the AU RRP to be 10.95 and they said "jap" ;o

[INehalemEXI]

Dude, I would give the demo a higher score then 7. I play it alot.

[zambrota]

some reviewers loved AC

some just hated it like anything

Be prepared people for a lot of mixed reviews

[sonarus]

nah its not the same as AC. AC is an incredible good looking game that tries in a lot of areas but fails in a lot of crucial areas. Couldnt even finish the game i lost intrest too quickly. From the demo i played though i have to agree with 1up's review. It dosent really do anything new visuals are ok but they arent special. I found the action extremely repetitive maybe its cus d last slashin game i played was gaiden which is a lot better. I personally wouldnt give it higher than a 7

[lesferdinand]

but then they had to change it all and make it multi-platform...

Anyway, the review score amazes me in that, so far, an HD graphics upgrade was enough to warrant a high score. There's nothing on PS3 or 360 that's a big leap gameplay-wise from the last gen. There's only the graphics and so far that was enough, much to my dismay.

[sonarus]

was built from ground up on ps3 and then 360 came in and delayed the hell out of the game. At the end of the day though no one but capcom is to blame as problems with the game are gameplay and game design oriented has nothing to do with technical specs.

[Legend]

A 7 doesn't mean it's a bad game. A 7 typically doesn't bring anything new to the table and, from my experience with the demo, DMC 4 doesn't. I'll still play the game but, like with DMC 3, I won't be expecting anything different from what has been done before.

[BrianC6234]

I really like the DMC4 demo too. I play it a lot. But I might do what I did with Assassin's Creed. I didn't buy that game right away and after Christmas Target had it on sale for $38.99 so I grabbed it. I have so many new PS3 games right now that I haven't even started. Maybe I'll hold off on this game and wait for a deal.

[InYourMom]

You got a link where Capcom stated it was all done for the PS3 and then the 360 came along and delayed it?

I think you might be confusing with UT3.

[AceLuby]

They would have made it more like DMC1, where there was actual skill in doing the combos. 2,3 & now 4 are all the same button mashers. It was REALLY hard in 1, if you played on hard and tried to pull off some of those crazy combos.

[Blackfrican]

Can you say HERRRRRROOOOOOO?
Giant sword? check.
Weird cameras? check.
Combo meter? check.
Dancing monsters? check.
Appearing / Disappearing boundaries? check.
Sales in Japan? check.
Microsoft's goal? check.

[ChaosKnight]

So what were they suppose to do with the series? Turn it into an FPS? It's a hack and slash action game... it's pretty hard to change anything other than give the game new moves, better visuals and more story. They fixed many things that bugged me in the gameplay from the last game - based on the demos - plus the devil bringer and emotional conflicts are new to the series... not to mention the 60 FPS gameplay.

I don't think they're being fair... you shouldn't judge a game compared to previous games; rate it how that single game is. If the gameplay is fun say it then it's fun don't true and slice it up because it is similar to previous installments.

It also doesn't seem like the reviewer has never played a puzzle game as he complains about the strategic thinking the series seems to offer. That and Poor camera angles he seems to be having a hard time to handle is understandable and retracing steps is annoying are really the only things he says are bad but that is about the entire review. I just don't think he is giving many positive points and mainly focusing on the negatives.

[darkshiz]

I would give the demo a 9.3 out of 10.
Their review won't stop me from buying.

[Soren the Cat]

"So what were they suppose to do with the series? Turn it into an FPS?"

well played.

[gamesR4fun]

I mean common this is not a next gen title by any means. Static world prerendered animations super dumb and boring ai's... Giving an old game a new coat of paint doesnt cut it anymore.
7/10 is pretty considerate and if anything shows that it is a decent dmc title but if you want a 10 give us a next gen title.

[Shankle]

Well Devil May Cry is probably the only hack and slash that hasn't tried to add variety. God of War has the incredible cinematic feel, great puzzles and brilliant boss fights (which require involve tactics, not just skill), Heavenly Sword came out with the ability to throw objects. Sure most people hated it, but I enjoyed it somewhat, and at least it was trying to add some bloomin' variety.

It's not enough to add more combos or weapons. It never will be. If I want a deep fighting system (which I do) I'll pick Virtua Fighter. I will prefer to fight one enemy who has the same chance as me than a dozen enemies who can only walk slowly towards me and use the same attack animation over and over and over.
Plus there's something incredibly strange and annoying about the micro-cutscenes in DMC4. Every time the smallest event happens, it drags the control away from you just to let you see something like a door opening or an enemy arriving. Why?!!?! Why put so much effort into making it 60fps if they're just going to make the experience jerky and uncomfortable by putting in a tiny cutscene every 30 seconds?!

I used to like Devil May Cry, but there was nothing in that demo which wasn't in the first game. Oh fine, there was the devil bringer. Okay so that was one move. Great. I love it when I don't need to think about what I'm doing and can get by by just pressing the same button over and over.
"Slam Dunk! Slam Dunk! Slam Dunk! Slam Dunk! Slam Dunk! Slam Dunk!" Annoying yet?

I'd give it at best a 7 out of 10 and a "Rent if you really have to".

[SlappingOysters]

well they could try taking hack'n'slash into the next-generation by inventing and innovating new ideas.

[sonarus]

devil may cry is jst a weak hack and slash. Gaiden is way better and judging from the demo so is heavenly sword. It lies inbetween conan and hsword. i wish it was faster and more gory. the gun is jst stupid they should get rid of it. And the paths are ridiculously linear. They might as well have made the game on rails. no point having camera control with such linear paths. i guess dmc4 jst sorta appeals to the dmc fan. if this is the plan capcom had for the game all along its a gud thing they dropped it as ps3 exclusive cus everyone would be spitting on it like it was lair

[ry-guy]

Agreed. The game felt sluggish. Building combos what more of a chore than it was fun. There was no button to increase speed, it was something of a predetermined time you were running unhindered. I wish there was more and they did something different with the genre.

At least, NG felt faster and smoother.

[KozmoOchez]

Could mostly be the fault of it going multi plat -THANKS FOR BEING GREEDY YA JERKS!!!!- but it could just be that when a game does good, why would you change the formula, a lot of reviewers have become extremely biased, but you just can't tell. Take Assassins Creed - SAME THING OVER AND OVER!!!- some played and had orgasms, biased orgasms, b/c all you can here them say is "oh it looks so good, look at what i can do, i can fall a million feet and land safely into a stack of hay!!!" It wasn't that different except for some acrobatic stuff and the fact you had to walk around stalking a person/area(which was sorta what you did in socom). Ratchet and Clank FTOD got a 7.5/10 from gamepro for being the same, but why would you change from something everyone loved so much???(could have kept/expanded multiplayer, which is why i didnt buy). But i guess shooting at people in first person is always different...NOT!

Although COD4 added a little bit of RPG, same of everything eles(not saying its bad though) Halo 3 was completely the same, Sports titles are gonna be the same(sorry can't change the rules). Really the only series that changes every time would be Final Fantasy, changes battle system almost everytime(since 7 b/c thats where I started). Although, b4 FF12, it got tossed a lot of crap from biased reviewers(some not a lot) and biased gamers who only think that every game should be a fps and completely fast-paced action, and just because RPGs are on the slower, tactical side, some people don't even look that way

I'm tired of dumb excuses for why ppl don't like games like "the graphics arent that good" so what, look at the old gta games- looked horrible, but fun to play.
And, "whats the deal with rpgs, you stand there, take a hit, don't move, then its your turn bla bla bla" ITS ALL ABOUT THE TACTICS AND STRATEGY.
"It's the same as the last game that sold over a trillion copies and was super awesome and shouldnt be changed, but its the same so I dont like it" WHY CHANGE THE GREATNESS?!?!?

Since there gonna be biased, only people who like a certain genre should rate it so that others who like it can get fair judgement, of course it should be looked at by someone else too, but just to keep it honest

[AceLuby]

Seriously, don't go there... Halo 3, while it is a good game, is basically Halo 2 w/ a new coat of paint and what were the avg scores? How many copies did it sell? Not saying I don't like it, because I do, but devs do this all the time.

[chitown]

im not gonna lie ever since this game went multi plat ehhhhhh lost interest

[SlippyMadFrog]

Why would you lose interest when a game goes multi plat?

[The_Engineer]

because in the case of DMC it no longer has any chance of taking advantage of PS3's hardware. Did you like the short single player in COD:4?? well you got DVD9 and the 360 to thank for that.

facts are facts, even when they don't blow sunshine up your beehind, this is the part 360 diehards have trouble come to terms with.

[onyxbox]

I have to disagree about Mass Effect proving DVD is big enough. As much as I like the game it is only 50+ hours if you like doing the same mission with a different theme applied to the colour scheme over and over... the main game is 12 hrs and most of that is reading and walking from point A to point B and the back to A and then back to B again.

I beleive DVD is big enough for a different reason and it has more to do with the cost of developing more than 7 ot 8 GB's of graphical / audio assets.

Of course Media Disk capacity is a non issue on PS3.

[SlippyMadFrog]

I see your point. Bubbles for presenting your argument in a logical and mature way.

[Shankle]

"The problem is that you PS3 fanboys pass off oppinions as facts, then mistakenly think that Xbox360 fans can't handle your "facts""

Oh now come on you could have done so well but you had to go and attack a certain type of fanboy. ALL fanboys make up facts like that. Don't say it's just PS3 fanboys. They are all scum. Luckily we should be able to just leave them be from now on and the mods will clear them up and send them packing to the open zone.

[SlippyMadFrog]

"facts are facts, even when they don't blow sunshine up your beehind, this is the part 360 diehards have trouble come to terms with."
My response was directed at The_Engineer, I just wanted to point out whats wrong with what he said.

I just asked a question why chitown lost interest in the game that went multiplat but The_Engineer wrote a post insulting everybody who supports the xbox360. I don't understand why my post was deleted by the mod when The_Engineer initiated the argument.

[Enigma_2099]

... and I wonder if the buckets of gore will sway their decision...

[cjp4eva]

since its gonna be a xbox 360 exclusive, theyll give it a 11.

[Doppy]

This site better give it a 7/10. Based off what we've seen so far Ninja Gaiden II is exactly the same as the first 3 versions.

I agree that DMC4's gameplay hasn't changed much (based off the demo), but people who buy this game enjoy that gameplay. And regardless of how familiar it is the game is polished extremely well and for that reason alone it should not have scored below 8/10

[xionpunk]

If its like DMC 1 or 3 then I'll take it. This dude is crazy.

[darkshiz]

They gave Halo 3 a 9 and it has the exact same gameplay as last generation.

Yet they gave DMC4 for having the same gamelay as last generation.

Hypocrites.

[INehalemEXI]

Bubbles @ yah

[TheSadTruth]

While I no longer enjoy or even play Halo 3 you have to give credit where credit is due.. Bungie added an EXHAUSTIVE amount of features ranging from the most prolific replay viewer ever created all the way to armor permutations.. but sadly they fell very short graphically and in the single player campaign. You can't say the gameplay is the same when they incorporate equipment, detachable weapons, armors and new types of grenades.

[Shankle]

The difference is that Halo isn't anywhere near as repetitive.

[lonestarmt]

are you kidding me? halo3? baised much. Lets see what did you do in Halo one? go around and shoot stuff. What did you do in 2 and 3? go around and shoot stuff. It did nothing new or different. Please.

this whole thing is silly. Lots of people loved Devil may cry, if they changed it too much people would complain that isn't the same devil may cry. If they keep the formula you got idiots saying this. All they can do really is take what worked and refine it and make it bigger, better, prettier, and add a great story.

[iNcRiMiNaTi]

umm..what did u do in devil may cry 1? shoot or slash stuff and collect red orbs. what did u do in devil may cry 2? shoot or slash stuff and collect red orbs. what did u do in devil may cry 3? shoot or slash stuff and collect red orbs. what did u do in devil may cry 3SE? shoot or slash stuff and collect red orbs. what do u do in devil may cry 4? shoot or slash stuff and collect red orbs

see where this is going? ur argument is weak, is a fanboy comment and doesnt belong in this zone. halo is about going around and shooting stuff, well yeah no s**t, its an FPS

[witchking]

I was so excited for Halo 3. I played the demo, liked what I saw, etc. But when push comes to shove, you're right: same old gameplay as Halo 2. And frankly the maps weren't that interesting.

COD4 has simply taken over completely. While it's still an FPS, the "one more level" mentality of it really kicks in. It has that feel you had playing Diablo... one more room, just a little extra XP and I'll level up and get new loot.

Halo 3 is completely missing that... there's really very little incentive to play Halo 3 if you own Halo 2, other than new maps.

[lonestarmt]

@ incriminati

wow. Ok you totally misunderstood my comment. You must be real sensitive about fanboy comments or ready to jump to defend halo at a drop of a hat. What I said wasn't a fanboy comment. What you said was right and its funny because it proved my point. Yes devil may cry is like that and so is halo. Yeah devil may cry is like that and in your words no sh!t its an action game. My point is people gave halo 3 great reviews and it is really the same thing over and over again, just like devil may cry. If you are a big fan of either then you will most likely like the new to keep the story going. Its not rocket science. The question is why forgive so easly for one game and not another? its either they weren't that big a fun of the previous games so they are dissappointed that nothing changed for them to like it more so they are a little jaded reviewing or there really is a biased with FPS games.

@ below yeah thats my point. No one seems to mind that every FPS is like that. No one ever says yeah XX FPS game doesn't bring anything new, lets take off a point. Man I don't understand why its going over everyone's head. Its not that hard to figure out. I give up. lol

[Mattearl]

"are you kidding me? halo3? baised much. Lets see what did you do in Halo one? go around and shoot stuff. What did you do in 2 and 3? go around and shoot stuff. It did nothing new or different. Please."

You should really bite your tongue on that one.... because that describes about every FPS out there...

But i'm going to go say that DMC series is a lot like Unreal Tournement, either you like to slash and smash stuff or you don't. I'm buying this game because i love the DMC series!

[lodossrage]

Now this guy is pretty much trying to say the game is only worth purchasing if you're a super fan. He isn't saying that directly. But indirectly, that's what he's leading to.

But honestly, this is a hack n slash game. There aren't many things one can change with hack n slash style games.

And whats with the comment of the game not meeting next gen standards? Last I remember, the ONLY standard that matters in a game is that it's FUN.

Comments like what the guy said are why I say gamers today are spoiled and jaded. There are so many games that came out with NO innovation of ANY kind (halo for example) to their game play that they give 9's and 10's to. Yet Devil May Cry is the one they call out and say is last gen in new gen clothing? Ridiculous.

You purchase a game (or anything else for that matter) for the sheer fact of entertainment. That is the ONLY "next gen" stardard a gamer will ever need in this gen, the next gen, or ANY gen

[KozmoOchez]

agreed agreed agreed
bubbles bubbles bubbles

[jax07]

Here is the thing, in a fast paced action game like DMC complex puzzles that slow the action have absolutely no place. That is why Uncharted has such simple puzzles as to not slow down the pace of the game. Also ALL of the DMC games are the same. The story is shallow like no other and combat is the same. The game is a victim of itself, there really is nothing that you can do to make this game any different without killing it. This is why I stopped playing all of them because they all seem like the same game. It is like Ninja Gaiden, chop, chop, chop move on to the next level.

[lodossrage]

And you make a damn good point. Especially with the puzzles comment.

But the problem is you don't want to make the puzzles too simple. Keep in mind, these games are rated not only by content, but challenge as well.

But then again, as you said, DMC just might be a victim to itself and even thought the average gamer is mature and SHOULD have a tad more complex puzzles, at it's core a hack n slash is meant to have a fast pace, puzzles included.

But if they say this about DMC, the next god of war and ninja gaiden games can very well suffer the same fate from reviewers. But then again, those two games will be hyped like nobody's business. And we all know the hype machine has a factor in these "unbiased" reviews.

[Adamalicious]

Sadly, that headline was exactly what I was thinking when I played through the demo. Same old DMC with more polygons and higher rez textures.

[INehalemEXI]

Why ruin a good formula. Its not the same either. Why would they expect some drastic change?

[lonestarmt]

well see you must have not loved Devil may cry to begin with. If you loved it, then your like wow cool! with this one. This game isn't going to win any new fans

[BloodySinner]

Now comes judgement. I hope more reviews come in.

[akumous]

Please don't ask how I got this game because I can't disclose that..Anyway, DMC 4 is DMC and it is one of the best in the series..My only one complaint is that some of the levels were recycled and I hate it...Capcom you guys are too lazy, you guys could have added a few extra unique levels for Dante..Now that I've played it and about to finish it..I would give it 8.5..It is fun, addictive, beautiful, and worth every penny...I'm clocking in 14hrs or so I haven't finish the game, yet..

[gtgcoolkid]

I played the demo and it was great. First day buy for me.

[Mr Marbles]

right, it is the same old stuff, as are most games coming out of Japan these days, they are in a creative drought. Yes Halo3 was more of the same old but at least they mixed it up a little by adding next gen features like theater, the customization stuff and the online interactions like film save. I dont think it is all bad however, i would not want to see some games change too much. MGS4, KZ2, FF, and RFOM2 will probably be more of the same old crap as well, i think they should lose no more than 1 point out of 10 for this.

[INehalemEXI]

Japan in a creative drought LMAO. Right... Capcom , Konami , Squeenix, Namco-Bandai,Team ICo, Team Ninja etc. in a drought LMAO.

Oh and FPS, MMO's and RTS have been so innovative lately.... right LMAO.

[Barreldragon00]

So your saying that all the big PS3 exclusive will offer nothing new? and then you say that Halo 3 is fine because of theater, and Film Save? While they are nice bonuses they do nothing new for the game play which aside from new weapons is the exact same as the other ones.

So you really think they offer nothing new? You can't really believe that do you?

This is off the top of my head on how these games improve on the original.

MGS4- More open environment, multiple ways to clear a level, less penalties for using your weapons, can be played as a stealth game or FPS (or any combination), and i don't remember ever seeing the camo suit in MGS before. And their adding another online part to the game too.

FF- They already switched from the old individual combats with monsters to the more open world mmo type gameplay. (personal opinion i like better) and they are creating another game witch is going to be more action rpg oriented. (little info so far)

RFOM2- this game was just announced and already we know it has 60 players online, 2 full campaigns one for single player and one just for the co-op which happens to be 8 player co-op, in co-op their are going to be classes EX. Medic, Sniper, Assault troop, Co-op levels are supposed to be randomly generised EX. a prison level will never be the same twice. And all that was just from the first preview.

Killzone 2: Our first look (the only one so far) Was mostly to show that yes we can do the amazing graphics and it stunned everyone, but we also saw that there adding a cover system (and one thats all in First Person doubt) (little info so far)

And the part about losing one point off their scores is just laughable.

Wow this is probably the longest post i've ever done.

[Keowrath]

"MGS4, KZ2, FF, and RFOM2 will probably be more of the same old crap as well"

LOL but as long as you have your "next gen" American FPS-ers you'll be ok. Have fun with that massive amount of variety!

Why do you only mention the PS3 games as the same old crap? I'd say your comment was in the wrong section.

[Charlie2688]

So its like DMC1 or 3 with better graphics?

HELL YEAH! :D

[MK_Red]

Yup. At least each of DMC1 or 3 had some new tricks and gameplay ideas to show but DMC4 looks to be just a graphical update. Ninja Gaiden 2 and God of War 3 are the games that I'll be buying for gameplay and fun but I'll get DMC4 because of story.

[INehalemEXI]

What would you call the devilbringer and the rev system , as well as all the new stuff dante pulls out...

[OMGLOLZ]

But uhh, this game is a HUGE update. New weapons, ability to switch styles on the fly, a new character with a new set of moves and weapons and combos? Plus the upgradable moves for your character can be sold back for exactly as much as you spent.

It's a huge update, incredible story (Seriously...) and the action is DMC.

Let's not forget the cutscenes: They aren't as cheesy as they used to be.

[Keowrath]

Agreed. Switching styles on the fly IS new and not something that has been done in the past. From what I've seen so far of NG2, it doesn't even allow weapon change on the fly. (correct me if I'm wrong)

When the higher quality players start playing DMC4 and get a grip of the controls and combos there is gonna be some unbelievable videos coming out.

DMC4 looks to me like a next gen version of the previous games. It does add extras. If you find it plain, boring and repetitive, chances are then a) you don't know how to play the game and b) you're not an action game fan.

[lonestarmt]

yeah I know!! they better review ninja gaiden II this way. Not saying ninja gaiden won't rock because it will, just like this game. All they are doing in that one is making it easier, more attacking than defensive, and more bloody. This game they added the devil bringer and changing styles on the fly. So Ninja Gaiden better get the same score or else its really going to look bad for them

[INehalemEXI]

Spoilers Those who Hate on DMC4 Bare witness to what your missing.

[TH3 GAM3]

I would give DMC4 an 8.5 at most. Its still no GOW.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Go kill yourself.

God of War was great...but come on dude. Jaffe himself likes Devil May Cry more...

[Keowrath]

Horses for courses, people like different things. A lot of people I know hate GoW but love NG and DMC, others hate DMC and NG but love GoW.

I personnally love DMC and NG and I'm a VERY big fan of GoW too but I would still rate the Japanese titles higher than GoW. For an action game fan, being able to play all 3 is awesome.

[Skerj]

HAH those guys are tools, this quote sealed that for me:

"Lastly, the cutscenes are suitably over-the-top and incredible, which obviously isn’t a criticism in itself, except for the fact that the action shown in the cinematics is far more intense and well choreographed than anything you ever experience in-game."

Learn how to play before you review the game and you can pull off flashy things ingame. In the final trailer there's a clip of Dante using Trickster and Jump Cancelling to fly and stay in the air while fighting a boss. Check it out, that was what secured my resolve that Capcom didn't dumb the game down. True Style Tournament 4 is going to be effin godly.

I think that's where DMC leaves the uninitiated as I've seen and heard the same things before and they were all wrong. People start the game and spam the attack buttons without any sense of timing and don't take time to learn the advanced combat mechanics.

So yes, if you play that way the game will seem dull as hell. It's not like GoW where you're given flashy as hell moves from the start with no true combat depth. You have to LEARN how to Cancel, Instant Rev, Buffer, Link, Juggle, Crowd Control, Resets, and various style nuances. Take the time out to become at least knowledged in those and you'll gain a whole lot more out of the game.

All of that said I'm SO glad that Capcom chose the route they did when creating DMC4. Giving us a hella deep combat system, a new character with his own move set, Style switching and new crazy weapons for Dante, and what looks to be the best story in the series.

DMC1 was awesome, DMC2 was "alright", and DMC3 just skyrocketed the franchise. DMC4 looks to continue on that high point that 3 left off on. Calling it a last gen game in next gen clothing is nigh hypocritical considering most of the big sellers *cough COD4 cough* so far this gen have been done to death previously.

[INehalemEXI]

Yah , DMC4 definitely has a lot more in store then they listed in the review. The gameplay is intense and varied styles, moves,combos,characters keep it fresh. Its a significant graphical upgrade from the last DMC as well.

[Skerj]

Agreed, I think the only other thing I would have asked for in DMC4 would to have coop with both Dante and Nero, the S's would be flying in that. I can't wait for next week, I'm procient enough in combat now that I'll be able to blaze through that first mission multiple times to maximize the orbs for upgrades.

I'll more than likely do that and max all of Nero's starter abilities/health and have 50k orbs stocked up before I move on. Did that in DMC3 and aside from the hate I have for the Fallen and those asshat spiders, I never had a problem with the difficulty. It was awesome to fully max DT orbs as soon as I got it.

[Keowrath]

Great comment Skerj, you really hit the nail on the head. I posted something similar (although a hellavalot shorter! =p) above.

"If you find it plain, boring and repetitive, chances are then a) you don't know how to play the game and b) you're not an action game fan."

It's fine if you're only gonna play through the game once just to complete it button mashing will allow that on the lower levels but for me and many others the replay value in DMC is huge not only because of all the extra difficulties but because of learning how to truely master the game engine.

I can't wait for this game, it's going to keep me amused for months!

[no_more_heroes]

My only problems with the demo are the complete lack of difficulty (I put down NG1 for almost a year because I couldn't get past Murai)and the camera. The camera probably won't change, unfortunately, but I do hope that the higher difficulty levels make a difference because it was child's play compared to Ninja Gaiden (AI is 30% done he says. My God). I always thought DMC games had bad graphics but clearly they put some effort into DMC4 graphics.

[INehalemEXI]

NG sigma demo was just as easy as this IMO , Blocks and counters make things easy 4 me.

berial > dude with nunchucks. All you had to do with that guy was block , roll , jump , slash. Rinse repeat.

[KILLERAPP]

Well I like the game and I am going to buy it no mater what the reviews are.

[jackdoe]

Should be about an 8. There is no denying that DMC4 is last gen mechanics.

[The Closing]

This game is definitely last gen material, and if you disagree you're just in denial. The demo was also so easy I started to zone out, and possibly got hit by an enemy a total of one time. Action games seem to be very stagnant, but ninja gaiden 2 well most certainly be 10 times the game this is, and same goes for its difficulty level as well. Also first it was dantes brother who looked like an exact clone, and now it's this nero character. Great you want to bring in a new character who looks exactly like dante. Pointless. The cut scenes look even more overly cheesy this time around. This is coming from a person who thoroughly enjoyed dmc 1 & 2, but it's just yesterdays news.

[The Closing]

edit: Enjoyed dmc 1 & 3 definitely not 2. I don't know what they were even thinking on 2 being it was so completely amateur. .. that brings back some memories. It's amazing how fresh the franchise was at one point.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Wait...are you gay or what? Ninja Gaiden WANTS to be Devil May Cry so badly, but fails miserably. The combos suck, the enemies don't vary enough, the boss battles were monotonous, and the cutscenes were just pure CRAP!

Every reviewer I've heard from so far says the cutscenes are undeniably emotional. They are supposedly just freakin' incredible!

Ohkay...maybe the demo wasn't hard...but you're also talking to the guy who beat Ninja Gaiden: Sigma without losing a life. Devil May Cry 3 was the hardest hack 'n slash I've ever played. Dante Must Die mode, anyone?

Ninja Gaiden is so freaking lame compared to Devil May Cry. When was the last time one of you spent over 50 hours on a hack 'n slash? I played over 1000 hours of DMC3. I have the memory card to back that up also. (It says around 1500 hours...because of bathroom breaks and stuff.)

Regardless of originality, the game plays smoothly, looks beautiful, evokes feeling, and (overall) immerses you into the experience. That's a HECK OF A LOT MORE than most games have given us lately.

10/10 EASILY for me...

[Skerj]

It's funny, a lot of people whined and complained about DMC3's NA difficulty (was the JP hard) and Capcom obviously toned it down for DMC4's demo yet they're getting slagged for it. We'll see how the difficulty holds up when the final game releases.

On another note, I'm sorry but the DMC series owns Ninja Gaiden. I like NG and all for the awesome combat but that was it. The world is bland and the story (or lack thereof) is weak which I'm hoping they fix in NG2.

[Keowrath]

I love both DMC and NG possibly equally but if you think NG2 is going to be 10 times what DMC4 is I think you're going to be sorely disappointed. The only thing NG2 has shown us yet is extra blood spillage. No changing weapons on the fly, predetermined combos (oooh you might be able to throw a shuriken in between an air combo!)

The Closing, you say you enjoyed DMC2, that just boggles my mind, that was possibly the biggest piece of crap let down I have ever played.

DMC is an amazing action game for those willing to sit down and spend some time mastering what is available. NG is a great Hardcore action game with a lot of gore. If it's anything like the previous game though it'll all be about Izuna drops and OL-Charging again. Both are great games and deserve respect from anyone who is a fan of the genre.

DMC4 would be a 9.4 for me from what I've played of the demo.

[The Closing]

You might want to read the edit before making statements. Plus I think NG 2 will kill dmc 4 but what you don't know is I won't be buying either. I have better things to do at this time than play action games unless someone really steps up the genre for the better, which I don't really see happening anytime soon.

[Keowrath]

If you have better things to do, why are you even posting?

[bootsielon]

I loved Devil May Cry 1 and 3, and this one looks insane, I do want more of the same with this one (though I hope it's the last one, or at least that they pull a RE4 for DMC5)

[HarryEtTubMan]

God of War will DESTROY this GUARANTEED.

[leon76]

Exactly, man!!!!

[HarryEtTubMan]

God of War will DESTROY this GUARANTEED.

[Iron Man 2]

Dude,God Of War III will DESTROY everything in it's path,including the God Of War wannabe Ninja Gaiden II

BTW this must be the Xbox 360 version of DMC4 review,the PS3 version would have scored higher:)

[Daz]

so you only want one type of every games then. So there cant be 2 different hack and slashes about totally different things.
Maybe your only like to play only 1 game of each type lol.
That must get boring.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

You do realize Ninja Gaiden was born first don't you? Goes back to the 80s buddy and Ninja Gaiden on the Xbox was also born first, so it would be more of an DMC wannabe while Dog of War is a Gaiden wannbe. Sorry to ruin your oh so great day with fact, but if your going to come to N4G with BS at least make sure there is some ammo in your clip.

http://xbox.ign.com/objects...
http://search.ign.com/produ...
http://ps2.ign.com/objects/...

The links are for reference, somthing you should have done before logging on here saying somthing so stupid. Dude, google is your friend, it's like an unlimited ammo cheat for facts.

[Kleptic]

Jason is right...no PS3 fanboy should ever disregard Ninja Gaiden in any sense...

Ninja Gaiden is about a Ninja...Ninjas are almost as cool as they get...God of War is about a Spartan (also cool i guess but 300 sucked compared to the real epics) who is used by gods to do their dirty work...or whatever...but Kratos hardly has a huge advantage of coolness on any ninja...Why do you guys think Batman Begins was one of the best comic book movies of all time, and that Batman is near flawless as a superhero?...because they point out that Batman is basically a Ninja that happens to be a billionaire...

Wait till they make a game starring a Viking...Blonde locks, wooden helmet, and a stein of mead in all its glory...then its over...Ninjas are all business...Vikings get the job done, but also are always up for a good time...perfection...

Jason is also right though with DMC...DMC was pretty much the first action game of this type...the PS1 had a few fully 3D third person action games (MGS being the most well recieved), but the MGS gameplay is so different they can't really be compared...God of War only pioneered the gigantic boss battles with bizarre mini-games...some loved it, some hated it...I am indifferent...NG2 and GoW III will both be awesome in their own right...again though, neither have anything on a viking...

[THE_JUDGE]

we wouldn't be able to see our character. Ninja are to never be seen or heard. You should only know they were there by the devestation of what happened in their wake.

[Darrius Cole]

The coolness scale from Most Cool to Most Lame.

1. Jedi
2. Ninja
3. Spartan Warriors
4. Dudes with Giant Swords
5. Bruce Lee style Kung-Fu fighters

Ryu Hayabusa is a Ninja in name only. He never hides and he always takes his enemies head on. Sam Fisher, and Solid Snake are modern-day Ninja, they never fight if it can be avoided. Moreover they do everything in their power not to fight.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

And Halo 3 was so original...

[Skerj]

The only thing I could think of that they could have done to add more depth to DMC4 that could be considered "next gen" (people need to stop using that phrase now) is to use the system's clock for gameplay. It'd trigger Day/Night cycles which brings out different demons and enemies, Devil Trigger attributes, boss attack patterns are different depending on if it's day or night, or maybe entirely different bosses etc.

But see I brought that off the top of my head because the system clock is a feature so not utilized, I don't think Capcom was thinking that way either. In any case I'm estactic over DMC4 regardless so pshh on the nonbelievers PSHH I say.

[SlappingOysters]

DMC4 had an opportunity to be something more than another sequel. The first next-gen game in the series and what does it bring to the table? Nothing. So what if it is hack 'n' slash game. Do you think MGS4 or GTAIV will just be the same as last-gen games with better graphics. I sure hope not. The thing is, DMC4 feels trapped in old-gen game design and seems to have used relatively little of the power of the machines to wow with greater depth to the gameplay.

To all of you are saying its just a hack'n'slash game what were they expecting, for shame. A huge big name game with heaps of anticipation behind it - damn right I was epecting it to take the genre to new heights and bring something new and exciting to the table. Not just a new charatcer and a new move.

[Keowrath]

A new move??? LOL

If that's all you found in DMC4 then man! This game really aint for you.

wow.

[INehalemEXI]

I find DMC games to be the most rewarding games in the genre as far as unlocking weapons/abilitys , strengthening your character. The demo can't show that.

The really great things in DMC require mastery too which is probably beyond what someone would ever see, if they play it casualy.

Like folks above said, I would'nt say jack about it being to easy because DMC3 Was so difficult they had to tone it down and release the SE version. Feel happy theres a bit of slack in the beggining to let people become skilled with out having to fail repeatedly before getting far along.

[nemey]

GIVE ME 1 game that look like DMC4 in xbox or ps3...
hmm u can`t cuz no game is like DMC4.
if DMC4 was FPS ( 9.5 - 10 )
try to play DMC in hard-veryhard-dante must die
it mean skills ,FPS skills mean headshot.

peace.

[ItsIncognito]

When I played the demo, after 30 min. I removed it. To me it really is a last gen game with HD visuals and a world that isnt alive.

On a side note I never was a fan of the series.

[OsolidOsnakeO]

I belief them.....

[poos3]

this game looks and plays like a last gen game NG2 IS ABOVE THIS GAME in every area

[THE TERMINATOR]

Damn you stink

[qohelet]

passing ont this one
waiting for gow 3

[The_Engineer]

are the boss battles, other than that its the same boring gimped gameplay from the enemy AI.

[Niclas]

N00b reviewer.. this is one of the best games coming out this year, no doubt
he's propably some sad wii owner, only looking forward to Rygar or something crappy other B title.. wait for the big guys 2 give a review (IGN, GT,) they at least know what they r talking about

DMC4 demo is one of the best demoes i've played since i got my ps3/xbox360.. and so what if they didnt change the gameplay? why the hell would they when its already perfect.. omfg..

DMC kicks Ninja Gaiden, any day.. seriously .. what would you rather be? a cool half-demon half-man .. or a lame ninja .. its no that difficult tbh (Yes i think Ninja Gaiden is great 2 and completed it alot of times.. but DMC is way better/Cooler) 9.5 for sure

[ceedubya9]

FAILS

[Coke-a-Cola]

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[midgard229]

its cuz all anyone cares bout this gen is shooters, if its not a shooter or first person then it gets a low score. while dmc4 isnt as good as even ninja gaiden sigma its still a really good game. they just wanted it to be first person, i say enough fps's!!! and more action, rpgs, racers, and normal games!!!! halo, resistance, bioshock and COD4 are all we need for first person!!!

[Doctor Strange]

I don't know what the reviewer expected when he played this game. Do you think Capcom were going to stray away from the gameplay that made it popular to begin with.

I also liked how he failed to mention the new weapons, style switching on the fly and for many the difficulty which the game has been praised for.

Ninja Gaiden 2 is going to awesome no doubt but does it looks like they are going to break away from the gameplay Ninja Gaiden, Black and Sigma had, No there adding more weapons, quicker weapon change and faster more challenging gameplay with lots and lots of blood.

I haven't played the full game yet but from the demo DMC4 is a lot better then an 7 because it takes everything we known and love from the series, adds a little more to it and makes it a fun game to play.

Every game doesn't have to reinvent the wheel.

[DFresh]

I would agree a little bit about their opinion but I still think the game is really fun despite what these guys say about this game.
Personally I would rate it a good 9 because it's fun and the story is good.
This game worldwide sales more on the PS3 more than the 360 version.

[bloop]

Have to admit, being a HUGE DMC fan, I was a tad disappointed with the demo as there hasn't been any advancements in gameplay. It's just the same old DMC with a new lick of paint. I'll still be buying though :)

[BLACKJACK VII]

"DMC was undoubtedly a great slab of action when it first came out in 2001, but now the formula just feels a little dated and unrefined."

I agree. I am unimpressed with DMC4. The camera & the old control scheme is ludicris. However, it may be worthy of a 7.5 - 8.0 type of score.

But, I will still enjoy playing it, even if it is antiquated.

[bigjclassic]

but they both were mindless slashers. This genre is dying because of unoriginal slashers.

But to give some credit, God Of War and Heavenly Sword did try to take the genre to the next level.

[TalyngarTheBlack]

It's obvious to me and anyone else who is a veteran of the DMC series that this reviewer never spent any "real" time with DMC 1 or 3. The upgraded animations and framerate have me excited about the combat possibilities for DMC4. Also, as much as I wanted to hate Nero the Devil Bringer also brings in some surprising gameplay elements. I'm excited to play with Dante because I can already feel how smooth the combos will be and how great it will feel to switch both styles and weapons on the fly. Who hasn't thought of all the various combos this will create? While other action games present you with combos that are set or require one-button hold and release DMC makes you think on the fly about what you want to do next.

And for all of the newcomers to the DMC universe this game will give them a fantastic entry into the series. Don't let one idiotic reviewers view of "Next-Gen" ruin this experience for you.

As you can see from my Avatar I am a huge DMC fan, but I was expecting the worst from this game due to the new character. However, after playing the demo I am once again hyped up to take up the story of the Son(s) of Sparda.

[kewlkat007]

I see this being no different then some of Next-Gen's biggest games.

One thing that is always FACT: Next-Gen games will always look better than their Last-Gen counterparts, so that is a given.

But the game Elements/Control Mechanisms/Etras can always be sacrificed if the developers want to play it safe.

It might have the graphics but other parts suffer, or Vice versa.

Really name one game that has a "Marvelous Breakthrough" in all categories of GAMES and how we judge them, this gen?

Only the Wii does something different "In how gamers play the games and control it's characters" but could of these games, have been done on a GameCube "Certainly".

There have not been no big improvements in Hack & Slashers from Last-Gen to today but "it is what it is"....and we'll take it for now.

[jax07]

Before anyone goes and gets confused, I dont hate DMC or Ninja Gaiden, the games are just dated. There really isnt much that you can do to make them innovative or add too much new without completely ruining it, as a result of this the games are the same every time out. Honestly how much different do you think that Ninja Gaiden2 will be from the first one? This does not mean they are not fun to play, heck I still play DBZ: Budokai3( kick a$$ game ). If I were looking out for any action title it would be GOD of War, the story in that game is awesome and it is just super brutal.

[HCS]

devil may cry 4 being more of the same is not a bad thing as long as it isn't *shudder* devil may cry 2 design.

God of War is great but way more button smashing friendly.

[Mrcool]

Well... I would give it a 9 also because the graphics, and sound are nice. The game play isn't bad as they say. Overall the demo is awesome. Some people just dont appreciated action games such as DMC.

[GurlPlease]

*walks in topic looking real cunty wearing a black Pure Badger Aviator hat, Fitted red printed t-shirt, navy blue skinny jeans...While listening to a Ipod, sucking a red blow pop to match the shirt*

Yall gurls in here are really cutting up! So what DMC4 got a 7... Anyone who played the DMC series already knows what to expect. As long as DMC4 is not on the same level as DMC2, then its all good sugar.

I cant believe folks are still geting their maxi pads in a bunch over reviews...Chile, play what you want and be happy. I stopped listening to reviews when OXM game Marvel vs Capcom 2 a 7.5....NO MAM!!

[stuntman_mike]

i totally agree with the review. i never really got on with the demo, thought it was a bit souless and i had just played god of war 2 just before downloading DMC4 and that beats this game to a pulp.

[micbelt]

the demo of DMC 4 made me appreciate heavenly sword even more-despite its shortness. How anyone could say that DMC 4 is better than HS is beyond me

[GurlPlease]

Gurl, shut up. You comparing a demo to a full game. Chile, dont you know the difference?

[sonyfanonly]

well thank god theres not much to look for because DMC 4 is just a last gen clone - NINJA GAIDEN 2 is just like ninja gaiden sigma -- SO THE WINNER IS GOD OF WAR 3 AND ONLY XBOTS WILL DISAGREE SO GO AHEAD AND CLICK DISAGREE BED IN DENIAL LOL

[SlappingOysters]

7 is still an above average score. There seems to be an over emphasis on score - I remember reviews that gave Halo 3 a 9 getting smashed by fanboys for underscoring. A 9!

Anyway, a 7 to me says good fun, but nothing special.

[Bastard 360]

But having said that the first one was amazing, the seciond had no story but was ok, the third was amazing also, so i have no doubt this reviewer is just talking sh!t. I mean come on has any one played Conan it's a lot better than it's average score of 53% it got, these reviewers need to take there heads out there ar@ses and see a good game when they play it, just cause the formula is old doesn't make it a bad game or worthy of such a sh!t rating.

[Frank_Jaeger]

and i thought it was immense but i agree it is kind of like a last-gen game but i will still buy it

Any way last gen wasnt poor and its not like you dont still enjoy the games so i dont care if its last-gen just look at all the great last gen titles

[IQUITN4G]

I love reading the bonehead comments on here.

DMC4 is doing exactly what it's always done.Superb polish to the graphics and the odd minute refinement here and there.Games need to remain essentially the same for a reason but much should still be done regarding refinements to warrant another in the series - the whole thing gets stale otherwise.DMC4 doesn't really do enough of this though and the demo proves little has really changed apart from it looking even more swish.Is that what gamers really want.

Halo3 has plenty new to offer (play it loads and you will discover this) and yet remains mostly the same template.I'm a huge Halo fan but even i would question getting another Halo if all it does is exactly what the last one has done.

Gaiden looks to have upgraded it's gameplay for this gen and it's all you need anyway in this genre.

[felidae]

one of the worst reviews i've ever read. this dude only talks about the bad things.

and why should they change the gameplay? if i buy a DMC game i want DMC gameplay ..

my rating: 9,5 out of 10

my rating of this review: 5 out of 10