Borderlands 2 - Axton Was Meant To Be Bisexual

Borderlands 2 Commando class Axton was meant to be Bisexual but it was canned due to the fear of backlash.

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Chuk53826d ago (Edited 3826d ago )

Given that gearbox is based out of texas, sadly that might have been a wise move considering the state's strong conservative presence. Hopefully there will be a day when people don`t give a fuck.

mmoplaya3826d ago

Very true, but could be a huge thing of allowing Bisexual characters into games....

Chuk53826d ago

I agree, but everything is going so right for borderlands 2s launch right now:

-It's a sequel, so they hit the ground running.
-The original sold very well and is well loved.
-Borderlands 2 is literally going to improve on everything.
-And a lot of people were turned off by Diablo 3 and are looking for a loot fix (not to mention a lot of console players don`t even have gaming pcs)

Everything is going their way right now, given 2Ks financial troubles, I don't think they wanna risk anything unpredictably.

lastdual3826d ago

There's a reason you don't see many big movies, TV shows, best-selling books, etc., starring bisexual main characters. It's because they don't sell.

Gearbox didn't decide against this because they're afraid of controversy. The reason they're "playing it safe" is simply because they want to sell as many copies of BL2 as possible.

Biggest3826d ago

They don't sell because of backlash. Did you not see the record sales of Chick-Fil-a last Wednesday? It wasn't because the chicken that day was particularly delicious.

HammadTheBeast3826d ago

Girl bisexual characters sell. Guys don't.

garos823825d ago

its a huge thing 100 years ago. in this day and age it is an absolute joke

antz11043825d ago

Adding that much depth to one of the characters is useless anyway. The first one didnt tell me Rolands favorite color or if Brick was partial to blondes, so why should I care about this?

Give me a character I can spec out, run around and blast sh%t how I want, and Im good to go.

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Nimblest-Assassin3826d ago (Edited 3826d ago )

I understand why they are scared though.... after Me3's gay romance, the average youtube idiot is most likely homophobic

Shame though, they should have done it

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Tainted Gene3825d ago (Edited 3825d ago )

yeah, but it can trick you into it.

Mind you it was not my Shepherd that it happen (in fact I still haven't beat the game) but I heard on one game podcast that they didn't realize the situation until it was too late.

The guy stated that he was going the paragon route and was just being a good person/friend.... but unlike me he didnt see the obvious cues.

Not that i have anything against the inclusion of that character, just that I understand some ppl when they say they were caught off guard about it, in the case of ME3.

Mottsy3825d ago

@ tainted Gene lol he didn't realize the situation.

Male character: Hey shepard your pretty cute, wanna get to know eachother?

Gamer's Options: Yes No Hell No
Gamer's Thought: Well i wanna be a good friend and... hmmm YES
Two dudes get down
Friends walk in
Gamer: Ahh man Son of bitch game Tricked me!!!!!

synchroscheme3826d ago (Edited 3826d ago )

Borderlands, as much as I love it, is probably not the kind of game to be going into such controversial topics anyway.

Stick to shooting things and collecting sweet guns and everyone will be a happy camper. Especially here in Texas. :P

schlanz3826d ago (Edited 3826d ago )

Exactly my thoughts. Regardless of how you feel about sexual orientation, sexual themes serve absolutely no purpose in a game like this, or most games for that matter. Leave the gblt agenda/controversy to film and television, please leave it out of my games.

Biggest3826d ago (Edited 3826d ago )

It's a part of the story. Isn't that one of the problems people had with Borderlands? And it isn't an agenda, schlanz. It's life. Some people are gay.

Edit: Are you also outraged by the fact that Mario saves a princess? Are you upset that Dom had a wife that was killed? Why are they talking about sexual orientation, right? Mario should save cupcakes. Dom's sister could have died. Don't push your gay/straight agenda on me!!!

toxic-inferno3826d ago

The point that schlanz is making (I think) is that in all likelihood, none of the characters sexualities well ever be brought into focus in the game. In the first Borderlands, there was nothing to suggest that any of the characters were straight, bi or gay. By "making" a character bisexual, they would be drawing unnecessary attention to a detail of the characters that wouldn't otherwise be explored.

You see it all over the place; whenever a character in a TV show or film is gay or bisexual, they always make it really obvious. It becomes the single defining thing about their character. In my opinion, the first step to ending abuse aimed at people's sexual orientations is to stop making it a big deal.

palaeomerus3826d ago

"It's a part of the story. Isn't that one of the problems people had with Borderlands? And it isn't an agenda, schlanz. It's life. Some people are gay. "

So you basically paid no attention to Borderlands and the General Knoxx add on at all then and have no idea what you are talking about. Okay.

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WeskerChildReborned3826d ago

I think their are just too many homophobes in the world. I mean people get killed for just being gay so yea, i'm not a homophobe, i wouldn't really mind if their were gay characters in a game.

CrimsonessCross3826d ago (Edited 3826d ago )

People are dicks, people are close-minded, not all but a number of them =.= and hold their beliefs close to their heart and just won't let people be :S. Of course those people being the extremists.

I wouldn't mind a character being lesbian, straight, gay, trangender or my opinion if placed in the right game and with the right dialogue it can be done very well.

NeoTribe3825d ago

Prolly cuz deep down ur gay. Keep the pointless crap out of games. Serves no purpose.

WeskerChildReborned3825d ago

@NeoTribe, i was just stating a point, i don't really mind if a character is gay, i'm just saying that i know alot of homophobes that will probably hate a game just cause their is an homosexual in it.

Some people will probably hate it and not even buy the game which would decrease sales but if Borderlands 2 had someone gay in it, i don't think it would lose sales since it's already highly anticipated.

Dms20123826d ago

Sexuality never once crossed my mind in the first game, I don't understand why its relative to telling a story.

Ser3825d ago

It's because most of the time it ISN'T. Most of the time it's used as a hook or a schtick.

Anyone remember Fear Effect 2? What a mind-numbing game.

SilentNegotiator3826d ago

...and everything would have been shot bisexually.

Oh right, it's a Diablo FPS and the story could be stored in a toenail.

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user54670073826d ago (Edited 3826d ago )

Shame Lilith wasn't...

We all know Mad Moxxi likes a bit of Lilith in the Underdome :)

"Look at that little Lilith, Mmm Mmm Mmmmm"

"Looks like that sweet ass isn't helping you now Lilith"

"Lilith is looking absolutely delicious down there. Mmmmmmm..."

Interloper3826d ago

Horsefeathers, do it anyways!

VanillaBear3826d ago

You know for the Vault hunters being made into NPCs MAINLY to give them character development I've seen nothing but development on the new characters. Now don't get me wrong I game, new characters...they are the main people in the game but if they are giving these characters development why couldn't they of just kept the vault hunters as main characters and given them character development while your playing them. I really hope they will be playable in Borderlands 3 or Borderlands 2 DLC.

turgore3826d ago

Gearbox doesn't have balls, unlike Bioware.

obiwanjablowme3826d ago

and as we all know, you can't have bi-sexuality without balls being involved.

MysticStrummer3826d ago

It does take balls to completely jettison the one thing that made your series unique, decisions that matter, just in time for the big finale. More lazy than ballsy, really.

The story and characters in Borderlands 2 would have to be a LOT more in depth than the first game for a bisexual character to be anything other than a caricature.

Blacklash933826d ago

Who cares if it's played for laughs? Most things in Borderlands have been for a while. That would hardly be unique.

And even a shallow character being bisexul doesn't make it caricature. As long as the writing isn't obsessing over it and/or sterotyping.

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