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Common Arguments: Final Fantasy XIII

With news of a new Final Fantasy XIII project, Nerds on the Rocks wanted to introduce a new feature called Common Arguments, which looks at common discussion points surrounding popular and not so popular games. The inaugural one focuses on Final Fantasy XIII, one of the gen's most divisive games.

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TheMrFraz4710d ago

Brilliant feature idea. I like the question-answer setup.

VanillaBear4710d ago (Edited 4710d ago )

Horrible article...it seems like you are trying way too hard to defend FF13. Some things you use to counter arguments are terrible.

FF13 was a bad Final Fantasy game, it was and always will be. The argument against it are just to much to try and defend it.

Oh not to mention immature crap aswell like

"SHUT THE F*CK UP. Any ass-wad that decides to bitch and moan about how linear this game needs to take a LONG, HARD LOOK at FINAL FANTASY X."

or

"Get over it you stupid fan-boy."

Wow...really professional /s

Yes keep mentioning FF10 but at least FF10 was a better FF game then FF13 could ever be. No one minded the some of the changes because it was still a FF at heart, had a great story and some good characters.
We shouldn't be trying to defend Square f*ck up or supporting more games about FF13s universe.

We should be moving on now and just remember this as the worst FF game in the franchise as it should be.

FF15 or FF Versus please...and this time DON'T mess up Square

Irishguy954710d ago (Edited 4710d ago )

People need to stop comparing FFX linearity with FFXIII. Anyone who tries to use that as a defense does not know the true problem with FFXIII's and the word linear.

Can anyone take a guess? What could you do in FFX that you couldn't do in FFXIII?

Towns, Temples, Blitzball. You got time away from battles. You have other things to do, 'rest times' etc. FFXIII? Straight forward for the whole game, besides one 40 seconds scene of Hope on a big robot, and chasing a dumb chocobo around a little theme park(Pathetic Mini game) wow that moment sucked so bad. Other than that you literally jog to the next fight, but don't despair, you can see all the battles ahead of you...all 10 meters apart from each other in a long straight line

Lovable4710d ago

I think you're the one who don't know the word "linear"...FF X is as linear as FF 13. What you listed are called "distractions", but that doesn't made the game any less linear. You're still going in a pre determined path...

Irishguy954710d ago (Edited 4710d ago )

Yes lovable, but no one really cares about the straight path, they think they do. But really they care about how repetitive repeating the exact same thing for hours on end is. That's really the fault of it, people might like turn based RPG's like this..but there is only so much you can handle before the battles start being annoying, this is why minigames and towns are so important in FF franchise. This game, it does not require walking, walking is there for literally only one purpose. Get to the next battle.

There was so much space for "hat there should have on-rail flying/shooter segments in FF13. " anything at all like this, FF7 had this at LOTS of parts, where they just add a new little gameplay mechanic, Submarine, Chocobo mountain, using a map and landmarks to find out where you're going in the snow etc(I could go on, there is literally lots). FFXiii would've imporved just to change up the pace of ther game, to give you something new. They tried...twice, and gave you the worst minigames in FF/

Lovable4710d ago

Well said. I do agree with what you just stated.

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Godmars2904710d ago

My main modern complaint is that things done in cutscenes aren't represented in-game.

Where the scene showing Cloud getting on a bike lead to a road battle mini-game in FF7, Yuna could only summon and use a summons during one special scene in FF10.

And really, nevermind all the BS indications that there should have on-rail flying/shooter segments in FF13.

Elda4710d ago (Edited 4710d ago )

There are some people that think FF-XIII was a bad game & there are some people that enjoyed the game like I did,this discussion will never change.The people that didn't like it better get over the fact that another one is on it's way & when they start having discussions on this site about the next installment they shouldn't bring their negative comments to a discussion about something that they claim they don't have any interest in,people that are interested in the next saga of FF-XIII would like to hear good things about the game not comments from people with nothing but negative sh*t to say. I know some haters will give me disagrees & of course I could care less.

Irishguy954710d ago

If you enjoyed FF13 I commend you. You are a better man than me to be able to enjoy something like that

Elda4710d ago

I've enjoyed all of the FF games,never played the MMO's.

stuna14710d ago

Well said elda, I'm not claiming it was my favorite FF game, but I did like it.

All gamers have played at least one game that they thought was the bomb game, then turn around and find out that, that's not how alot of others view that exact game you thought was the bomb!

It's all about different strokes for different folks.

Elda4710d ago (Edited 4710d ago )

@Stuna1....Absolutely!!...ever ything might not be for everybody but people shouldn't knock a game down because they didn't start it,finish it or didn't get into it because someone else may enjoy it,like I did.

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Final Fantasy and SaGa series veteran Kazuyuki Shindo leaves Square Enix after 27 years

Kazuyuki Shindo, who worked on games including Legend of Mana, Final Fantasy XIII, and SaGa: Emerald Beyond, has left Square Enix.

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The 7 Best Final Fantasy Characters: Unveiling the Legends

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The older it gets, the more I respect Final Fantasy XIII

Alex Donaldson: "Hindsight is a hell of a thing, however, and in the years since Final Fantasy XIII, my respect for the decisions its developers made has skyrocketed. In the two Final Fantasy titles since we see both the brilliance and the folly in alternative approaches - and in Final Fantasy VII Remake, we get a more nuanced understanding of what FF13 was trying to accomplish from many of the same development leads."

Einhander1972549d ago

FFXIII is actually one of the best Final Fantasy games.

I also sort of was disappointed at the time, never as much as the bandwagon. But really all the fantastic 3D rendered cutscenes and I actually liked the characters and the story though convoluted was actually fantastic and the ending was extremely emotional. So much budget and time were put into that game Square had such big plans, I actually have always felt kind of bad for how things played out.

I have been thinking for years how great it would be to get all three games on one disk for PS4 or 5.

Nyxus549d ago

I always liked this game, and I agree, a rerelease for current gen would be nice.

Shane Kim548d ago (Edited 548d ago )

Gotta take off the nostalgia glasses. It's the worst FF. Shiva as a bike, I mean come on.

Elda548d ago

Shiva as a bike is strange but saying FFXIII is the worst FF is not at all a fact, that's simply your opinion.

Terry_B547d ago

*One of the 3 equally bad FF's

DivineHand125548d ago (Edited 548d ago )

When I got my series X a year ago, I bought FF13 for nostalgia reasons but ended up being disappointed. When I first played it around the time it launched, I didn't have a lot of experience with final fantasy games, so I enjoyed it. Fast forward to when I played it again, I found that the game had many unnecessary filler moments instead of just giving us meaningful content.

The game is also very linear and a quote on the article said it best. "It is like a sewage pipe that leads to the ocean until it opens up on Grand Pulse."

The story didn't make much sense either and I believe it is my mistake as I played the FF7 remake on PS5 prior which is a night and day difference in terms of pacing, storytelling and likeable characters even though cloud is aloof.

FinalFantasyFanatic548d ago (Edited 548d ago )

Probably was a mistake to play any of the golden era FFs first (e.g. FF6 through FF10), it makes it harder to enjoy some of the FFs that aren't as good. I think FF12 was where major issues with the series started becoming apparent, and it just got worse from there.

FinalFantasyFanatic548d ago (Edited 548d ago )

I didn't really care for it that much, the only saving grace was that it had a better story than 15 (overall it was better than 15) and possibly 12, and even then, you had to read some of it through primers, like reading a book. Plus the battle system was reasonably fun for what it was, even if it was more the spectacle that was exciting for me (e.g. summoning). And to be fair, the 13 trilogy got better with every games, I still don't like Snow though.

Gamingsince1981548d ago

Ff13 is only good if you haven't played a ff before, or any other games that are decent for that matter.

-Foxtrot548d ago

It is in fact no way the best Final Fantasy game, it's one of the worst

Linear corridors, Cutscene, Fight, Cutscene...rinse and repeat

Dialogue and characters are pretty bad, especially Lightning as the main FF hero, they literally said they tried to make a "Female Cloud" and they failed.

Story was pretty awful

I could go on

I think the only alright thing that came from the game was the music.

Elda547d ago

That's not a fact that's your personal opinion. The game sold 11 million copies between its 2009 release up until 2014 including critically reviewed as an 8 out of 10 or an 80 out of 100. The game does have some issues but it's not at all a fact as one of the worst FF games.

-Foxtrot547d ago

Elda

Not just mine mate

A large majority

So….

Traecy547d ago

N4G commenters such as yourself aren't the majority. The game was well received.

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gold_drake549d ago (Edited 549d ago )

i liked the game alot but i didnt like how they handled the terminology.

i dont mind reading data logs but it had soo many.

but i always loved the music and how it looked. the battle system wasnt too bad either.

but i like 13-2 more :)

i still dont understand why we never got a remaster of the trilogy

Eonjay548d ago

Xbox kinda did. Besides the video files of course which are still best on PS3 due to bluray.

Snookies12549d ago

XIII is a pretty solid game, but XIII-2 is WAY better. XIII-2 was one of the few games I decided to go for a Platinum trophy in, early on. Had so much fun the entire way through getting it too!

Eonjay548d ago

Totally agree. FF 13 was okay but 13-2 is my favorite FF game ever.

shinoff2183549d ago (Edited 549d ago )

I hated this to when it released. I haven't much liked a ff game since ff10 as much , aside from ff7remake. I decided to give it another shot on my series x since it's not on a current ps and was liking it quite a bit(just takes me some time to get over things ) until star ocean 2 remake came out I was all over that.

Square should definitely remaster it or something for ps4 ps5

KillerB548d ago

my favorite jrpg trilogy ever

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