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IGN-Ubisoft: Industry "Penalised" by Long Console Cycle

Ubisoft's CEO has claimed that the lack of new consoles has damaged the entire games trade for consumers and developers alike.
In an interview with Gamasutra, Yves Guillemot shared his feeling that the lengthy console cycle has stymied creativity and led to companies resorting to making sequels.

Ares84HU4708d ago

I'm ready for next gen. Games kind of grew stale for me because there is nothing new or something that I haven't seen or played already.

I'm ready for the next gen. Bring it!

Gamer19824708d ago

Everybody seems to be complaining about it lately.. I think this is an indication that something was supposed to be announced at E3 and wasn't and now the backlash has started as they have probably developed games for it, spent millions doing so ready for launch and the consoles not ready.

M83_4707d ago

@Gamer1982

Nice conspiracy theory. If something was that far along with that amount of investment in it they just couldn't pull out last minute. They have commitments and you can't break them, it's just not that easy.

I knew nothing would be announced because there wasn't any substantial rumours at all! I know you shouldn't rely on rumours for anything but to a degree, there's no smoke without fire.
Look at the wii u/ project cafe last year, rumours for months before hand and very substantial ones at that. That kind of buzz was completely lacking for announcements that would be huge like an up coming ps4/Xbox.

But I don't doubt they are in development and I'm sure they will be announced some time next year beit e3 or otherwise. What I do doubt though is that they were planned for announcement this year but everything was pulled back. That's just not realistic.

MadLad4708d ago

While I mainly game on 360 and very, very much would like to see newer console tech hit the market, at this point, I say let this generation draw-out even further.

PC gaming has been on a good incline for the last couple years. Many are thanking this over-lengthened generation and people's want for something more at this point.

The more pc gamers, the more developers will focus on it as a main platform, the better off gaming itself will be, considering developers have less and less restrictions to worry about.

mewhy324708d ago

We would all love to see some massive jump in tech and get new machines. But since this console cycle has lasted so long and been quite competitive, the developers have been forced to get really creative on the 'tech' side. We seen new rendering techniques, the advent of sofisticated streaming tech, new anti aliasing methods, deferred this and deferred that. I mean, this has been good for developers to stretch the minds, not just in new creative ideas, but tech to enable them to realize they're creativity on limited resources. Now imagine what they will be able to achieve with all these new tools on a nex gen console. We're gonna be in for a treat.

MadLad4708d ago

True. But this is no different than developing on pc. And when developing on pc, there is no real limit on the developer, allowing them to push harder and harder for those who can handle it.

The techniques that developers have to develop in order to get games running on the older console tech at this point is really no different than the idea of optimizing their games to run on multiple hardware combinations and at different levels of graphical fidelity.

With pc, the technology will always be there for the developers to experiment with. Without any real limitation, it allows for developers to push harder and harder all the time, making for more impressive games more often.

If the majority of console players would just make the leap to pc gaming, it would probably improve the industry as a whole. It would probably drop the price of hardware down a bit as well, being that it would be seen as less of a specialty item - pc gaming.

This is just me talking though. I realize that the console market is needed, at least for it's ease of use. I just see a lot of positives in a largely pc gaming industry. Not just in terms of game development, but also distribution.

Gamer19824708d ago

PC is already Nex-Gen thanks to DX11 and full 1080p gaming for under £400. You want to see what your PS4 and 720 will look like? Switch to pc. Plus you will save a ton of cash too as games are cheaper on PC especially with STEAM.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4707d ago

That is not completely true. While pc is ahead it is not full used because of consoles. Do you think Naughty dog won't make a game next gen that doesn't look better than 90% of pc games now? It will look mind blowing because they can optimize ps4. But of course pc games will look good. But for the first 3 years I expect consoles to have the high production look and feel.

like this..
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Really if pc had third person adventures like ps3 I would only play on pc since pc has better shooters. But third person adventure games makes me still play on console to.

MadLad4707d ago

@shutupandtakemymoney

That's a bit unfair though. It's common fact that many, many titles released are developed with console in mind. There are only so many games that actually take advantage of even mid-range PCs. Even fewer that take advantage of heftier rigs.

Games such as Battlefield 3, Witcher 2, Metro 2033, etc, are few and far between. So, when a really good looking console game comes out, it's not very fair to say that it looks better than 90% of pc titles, when it is consoles themselves that are limiting the graphical fidelity of pc releases. The most you can normally expect from developers is some better texture work and the game displaying at higher resolutions - something you also didn't factor in when it comes to console gaming.

Displaying a game in 1080p takes roughly twice the power of running a game in 720p. When you take into consideration the fact that most console releases, first-party Playstation releases or otherwise, don't even display in native 720p but at sub-hd resolutions . . .

Not many developers, when developing cross-platform, take the time to include features that are actually pretty standard for the average gaming pc nowadays.

rpd1234707d ago

@SlapHappyJesus

Which begs the question, why did you just buy a pc because it has better graphical capabilities, when in reality only about 10% of the games for it actually take advantage of it?

Also on Steam sales. They're nice but honestly you get a lot of crap games. And almost all PC games are launched at the same price their console counterparts are so that's an invalid argument.

metroid324707d ago (Edited 4707d ago )

WiiU is officially 2gig RAM/DX11/OpenGl 4.1/Shader model 5.0,go look on Nintengen m8,its all official mow the wiiu supports Compute shader 11 so the gpu is basically a gpgpu of the new age meaning it can handle most work that a cpu would normally handle while taking zero hit on graphics ??? oh and Valve is porting their network over to WiiU as we speak.

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AtomicGerbil4708d ago

We may be due a new wave of consoles, but all this publisher bitching and moaning is getting tiresome. All their complaints are due to them having to innovate and take their time to polish. They want new consoles so they can make up for shortcomings with a few bells and whistles that would be easier.

Stop blaming your tools for lack of quality, there are plenty of instances this generation to prove that the hardware is capable.

dcbronco4707d ago

I don't blame them for complaining. If there were only consoles it would be one thing. But there are PCs for everyone to look. It's obvious the standard is lowered by the consoles when the cycle lingers this long.

And it's not just about innovation. I agree that they need to be more innovative. But the ability of the current machines isn't as high as promised. And the generation being stretched this long only benefits the console makers. Sales of consoles have fallen, but the profits have soared for some. While the price to make the machines has fallen, the price for consumers has barely moved.

Add that the main engine makers have moved on to engines the current consoles can't handle. Crytek and Epic have moved on. Most new IP or next installments are being held back for the next gen. Developers are getting stiffed right now. And gamers are losing interest. Look at the release schedules. Not much of interest the rest of this year. Because there are a few new titles, any middle of the road or small title has to be careful. So maybe they don't release.

We need new machines to bring the excitement back.

AtomicGerbil4707d ago

I'm sorry but it's all excuses. Yes, the hardware is there on PC, so use it if consoles aren't good enough(which is exactly what they are saying)so the console manufacturers have something to take notice of. Just remember, the console makers rely a lot more on the developers than the other way round. Developers have the power and so far nothings happening which makes me think that much of the complaining is PR bull.

Secondly it would be madness for a developer to go full throttle on a new console when the userbase is low and completely lock out the old generation which would still be the majority. Besides if rumours that keep circulating round the web are correct all these developers are already producing for the nextbox and PS4 anyway so all in all what's their problem?

dcbronco4707d ago

Developers had the power when making games was cheaper. Look how many go out of business every year. Unless you're one of the major companies, you usually need help. That's why Sony can get away with demanding the IP. If they had any power, no one would ever give up ownership of their products.

No one is saying abandon the current generation. But it's time to have better machines to work with too. It's best to have two generations going at the same time. One to keep income coming in with it's large user base. And one to start showing what is in the future. And you have to go full throttle. If you have confidence in what you're doing you'll be fine. A console might sell 5-10 million in that first year. If you are one of a few that launch with a new generation you have a chance to sell to a higher percentage of the user base. look at how Resistance sold. Even people that didn't necessarily want a title like that bought it because there wasn't much else.

Droid Control4708d ago (Edited 4708d ago )

I've been ready for next gen since 2010. Brought my 360 in 2005.

The consoles are actually holding back PC gaming as well.

Sony painted themselves into a corner with the PS3. It cost them so much to make the machines that they need this long cycle just to make a bit of a profit.

M$ are loving Sony's mistake. Sony thought people would be willing to pay £600 for a PS3. They didn't. Now M$ has been milking this gen for everything it has, Making money on the hardware, the add-on's, xbox LIVE etc...

They must be laughing at Sony.

Majin-vegeta4707d ago

*The consoles are actually holding back PC gaming as well.*

Ummm,yea no that would be the developer's.They don't wanna use the PC to the best they can so everyone has to resort to saying consoles are holding back gaming bla bla.

metroid324708d ago

Well get upset because 360 is just getting extentions wiiu is the only next gen console as i think 360/ps4 will half skip this gen while wiiu gamers enjoy AC3 in 1080p and original games built using OpenGl 4.1 and lots more RAM poor Microsoft fanboys and sony fanboys is all i have to day ????????????????????????

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In recent years, Ubisoft has canceled several games, one of them being a project code-named Renaissance.

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In a very intriguing and interesting move, 16 Ubisoft titles can now be purchased on the Xbox PC Store. Of course, this is a first as Ubisoft PC titles have never been purchasable on the Xbox PC Store previously.

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jznrpg28d ago

Servers are going to be bogged down by that 1 guy who will use this.

SimpleDad28d ago

Ahhh, the good old... Xbox PC store?
Who tf uses that?

Tacoboto28d ago

Kind of weird without them being updated to Xbox Play Anywhere purchases

MrDead27d ago

I uninstalled it as I was sick of the ads popping up on my login screen.

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Ubisoft Announces Weak Financial Results, Delays Games, but Assassin's Creed Shadows is Going Strong

Ubisoft announced its financial results for the fiscal year 2024-2025, and they're not good, but Assassin's Creed Shadows is doing well.

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neutralgamer199228d ago

Three companies keep showing their true faces and telling us who they are but for some weird reason we refuse to believe them. Even when everything they show just makes their greediness even stands out more

Keep messing with the consumers and keep being greedy. Keep telling your consumers to get comfortable now owning your games and we will. You only have few IP's that gamers care about anyways so

"soon enough tencent will buy you out. They already own 49%. Keep deleting games from gamers libraries and getting sued over it instead of making offline play possible for the crew" it's sad that I believe in 10 cents more than UBI because atleast tencent knows how to run a proper business

These executives can taking millions and bonuses and stock options yet they fire those actually making the games without thinking twice. Gaming has become so greedy that their own greed will be their downfall. Companies like Capcom have realized making good quality games and treat gamers with respect

AC series started with a soul but now it's just a soulless empty option world with icons filling the game map. They make their own games so grindy so that they can see the XP boosters to even the odds. As a gamer in my 40's all I want to know is when did gaming just stop being about Fun and all about greed. Double XP weekends selling cosmetics and dances. I use to be a big sports game guy when I was in my 20's the other day I wanted to play NBA 2k and after doing some deep research I realized the best NBA game was 2k17 and NBA 2k25 at $9.79 I couldn't pull the trigger on that 2k25 for how egregious the micro transactions were. So much of the fun is behind a pay wall

dveio28d ago

True words, buddy.

Q: "So how many units did Shadows sell?"

Ubisoft: "Well, look, we ... it's been a busy week."

neutralgamer199228d ago

For over a decade, the price of video games remained steady. We paid $50, then $60 for full, content-rich experiences. Developers found creative ways to deliver incredible games without charging more. From the PS2 era through the PS4/Xbox One, pricing consistency gave players a sense of value and trust.

But then came the jump to $70 during the PS5 and Xbox Series X launches—justified by "rising development costs." And now, barely four years later, we’re seeing $80 price tags becoming more common for standard editions. At this pace, by the time the next generation of consoles launches around 2027, $90 games could be the norm. And with a behemoth like GTA 6 on the horizon, a $99.99 base price wouldn’t be shocking at all.

Yet we’ve also seen proof that this kind of pricing isn’t necessary for success. Look at the recent launches of Expedition 33 and The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remastered. Both released at $49.99 and have been met with strong sales and positive reception. These games show that there’s still plenty of room for high-quality, mid-budget (AA) titles that offer great value—and gamers are more than willing to support them at fair prices.

But here’s the problem: the big publishers don’t care. If we as consumers keep paying for deluxe editions, early access, and overpriced base games, they’ll keep pushing the limits. They’re not going to back down unless we speak with our wallets—because that’s the only language they listen to. If they see record sales, they’ll take it as validation.

It’s frustrating when these same companies report record-breaking revenue and profits—yet still complain about tariffs, still find excuses to raise prices, and still hand out bigger bonuses to their CEOs. If they’re doing so well financially, why are they passing more of the burden onto players?

It’s because gaming has become the second biggest entertainment market in the world. And with that comes attention from hedge funds, investors, and boardrooms focused on short-term profit, not long-term player trust. To them, your passion is just a revenue stream. They care about quarterly numbers, not the health of the industry or the joy of the experience.

And unless we—as players—take a stand, the greed won’t stop. The monetization will grow, the price hikes will continue, and the soul of gaming will keep slipping away. The choice is ours. We can either keep paying more for less, or we can push back. One purchase—or one refusal to purchase—at a time

dveio28d ago

"And unless we—as players—take a stand, the greed won’t stop."

And that's the tough part about it.

Look at those annual figures showing billions and billions of money being spent on the most ridiculous add-ons, DLCs, pre-release accesses, even pre-orders, digital deluxe crap, etc.

I mean - we've stood together at times. I don't say it didn't happen before.

But within all of our communities there's so much passive aggressive defensiveness.

Look at the debates regarding physical vs digital.

Publishers can't keep a straight face reading our discussions in which many people abandon physical.

Playing straight into the cards of publishers out there.

neutralgamer199227d ago (Edited 27d ago )

Like I said gamers are the biggest issue with gaming. We may united on a issue but as soon as our favorite gaming franchise gets a release we will support it. If there any doubt Mario kart will be one of the best selling games on switch 2?

Things we use to unlock by simply playing a game has not be sold to us as extra content

Rainbowcookie27d ago

I think people arebgetting tired of the formula. We see it in sales. People just want fun again.

neutralgamer199227d ago

I just want games to be fun and not geindy and full of micro transactions

anast27d ago

Even the $130 ultimate editions of UBI games are only a bit less grindy and they still beg people to buy helix coins throughout the whole experience.

It's a travesty what 2K did to NBA 2K.

neutralgamer199227d ago

It really is because NBA 2K is simply unplayable without spending money and you can't even respec for a new my player you are required to spend again

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SimpleDad28d ago

When you don't disclose units sold... and your stock goes down... how is this doing well?

CantThinkOfAUsername28d ago

"According to the company, Assassin’s Creed Shadows achieved the second-highest Day 1 sales revenue in franchise history, following Assassin’s Creed Valhalla. It actually had the best Day 1 performance of Ubisoft’s history on the PlayStation Store."

S2Killinit27d ago

AC Shadows is doing good yes.

gigoran828d ago

but but 2,000,000 players...

Chocoburger27d ago

Ubishit burned so many bridges with fans, releasing filler dreck that was purposefully designed to push you towards micro-trash-actions. It didn't have to be this way, they could have respected us players more, instead of making players waste countless hours of their life just to see stupid "experience points and resources numbers go up" and attempt to profit off us in such a disrespectful way. I stopped supporting them a long time ago. Keep burning bridges, and keep burning your company from within.

S2Killinit27d ago

Which UBI games did that? Im legit asking.

Chocoburger26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

Any game (be it Ubisoft or any other company) with an unnecessary shoe-horned in experience points system, endless resources collection, and a micro-trash-action store that sells you boosters that alleviate the grind.

They do it on purpose to nudge players towards spending more money, and its something I refuse to support. Nearly all modern Ubisoft games have experience points and skill trees these days, not because it makes the games better, but because it can potentially make them more money by exhausting people into giving in and buying boosters.

Assassin's Creed, Ghost Recon and more series are offenders of this game design blight.

S2Killinit26d ago

I see. And I agree. I dont like these trends either. Although I dont remember AC having paid upgrades (given that my last one was black flag)

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