"Before anyone leaves a raging comment about either consoles or PCs, take a second to read the article. This isn’t to bash either of you, but instead put some new argument points in this age-old battle." | Explosion.com
I'm happy because i am blessed to be able to enjoy PC and console gaming
I'm actually getting ready to build a pc for university this month. Can anyone give me some graphics card suggestions? I don't want to spend more than 300, but I still want to play games like skyrim using those graphics enhancer mods
This would be perfect http://www.newegg.com/Produ...
Go Nvidia...it supports PhysX. And before ATI fanboys come running in here going "But no one uses PhysX" they've been saying that since the inception of PhysX and games, including Borderlands 2, Batman, and every other big PC releases does support PhysX. So if you want the top-of-the-line visual experience for under $300, check out NYC_Gamer's Newegg link and look for a DX11 Nvidia card (something in the 5xx series would be ideal for ENB series mods).
If you can get the GTX 580, I'd recommend that instead. I happen to have the GTX 570, and it's alright for Skyrim's graphical enhancement mods, but I sometimes wish for a little more power.
The GTX 560ti or 570 is good for ya :)
the gtx570 is a great card and doesn't run too hot or loud. Can run almost all games at max settings.
For beginners, I would start with a decent SLI-GTX 690 combo.
This is on a nice sale (and comes with Dirt Showdown) and thus is currently under your $300 price ceiling: http://www.newegg.com/Produ... Here's a website that lets you do a quick comparison of cards: http://www.hwcompare.com/12... I've had absolutely fantastic luck with the IceQ cards from HIS. Every AMD card I buy is from HIS. They are typically among the coolest (temps), quietest, and most powerful. I've never had a single problem with any of the HIS cards I've owned, either. BTW, I'm not a fanboy of either AMD or Nvidia. I just upgraded from an HIS IceQ 6950 to an EVGA GTX 670 4GB.
get ready to hear them "suggestions". you may also want to consider HD Radeon 7870 from Asus or Sapphire.
there's actually nothing wrong with Radeons. the physx argument has been bulletpoint feature for many many years and has gone nowhere. In fact Nvidia downplayed DX11 development so that multiplat ports could get the physx treatment. You could say AMD pushed for innovation while Nvidia chose mediocrity. However Nvidia knows their shit when it comes to making high performing cards so go with whatever you set your budget at and go over benchmarks.
ATI Radeon HD 6950. The 6950 and the 6970 have the same hardware, but are BIOS locked. There are instructions out there to flash the 6970 bios onto a 6950 (it's easy, I've done it a couple of times). This will save you a bit of money, and is a HELL of a card. I run Skyrim on max detail, 1920x1080 resolution, graphics enhancement mods, and still keep great frame rate. http://www.newegg.com/Produ...
You don't have to spend $300 on a graphics card to max out games. I have an HD 6850 and I can play Skyrim at 1920x1080, 4xAA, the HD texture pack, the view distances cranked up all the way AND get 60fps. Only ~$150. Tomshardware.com also has some great charts if you're looking to compare cards. http://www.newegg.com/Produ...
Thanks guys... I think im going to go with the GTX 570, seems like a good fit in my price range.... just picked up skyrim for PC for 30 bucks.
This article was made by some ignorant person who knows NOTHING about PC Gaming! 1. What ever you play on just ENJOY your Games. It's all about the JOY of GAMING and not the platform! 2. No need to compare PC to consoles cause in reality they are two VERY DIFFERENT worlds. I've been gaming since Pong so trust me I know! 3. Consoles are basically a great way to just push power and enjoy instant entertainment. I've played on every dam console ever made so I'm very familiar with the console lifestyle I just decided PC was for me cause I like building my PC and the games were different. Most PC Gamers prefer the PC cause of the different games of course and it's their hobby. For example I build and repair PC's so therefore I'm all about the PC. SOme people make music or videos on their PC's therefore they got a kick butt Gaming PC already etc.. anyway lots of PC Gamers have consoles too! If we can buy $300 GPU don't you think we can buy $300 consoles. This article is lame and just talks about the same old stupid stuff, Price of PC's, Console Exclusives, Can't build a PC, Blah blah blah!! 1. PC's do more than just play Games therefore common sense will tell you that they will cost more cause they DO MORE! I'm not knocking consoles but seriously your not burning BD Disc or doing Term papers on a console. As far as building a Gaming PC, decide your budget, do the parts research and build a nice PC within your budget and upgrade as more money comes in! It's that simple! 2. PC's have Exclusives too! They may not be the type of games that "YOU" wanna play but they sure are the type of games that a "PC GAMER" wants to play and that's why I say PC Gaming is a different world. 3. PC Gaming made more money than 360/Ps3 combined! Google it! I'm not knocking the consoles but some uninformed people tend to think PC gaming doesn't make money! Ask Valve, Blizzard, Nexon, Zenga, Nvidia, AMD about the billions each of those companies makes in Game sales and GPU sales YEARLY! PC Gaming has a totally different "Business Model" than consoles BUT Next Gen consoles will adapt the PC business model even more. 4. If you can't build a PC or need advise there are always plenty of people to help you out. I help people on here all time. 5. Like I said this article was typical Flaim Bait and I'm sick of it cause it leads people to believe the wrong thing. *If you want to know about PC Gaming feel free to ask a PC Gamer like myself cause that's how I got into PC Gaming by asking others* "Hey man I wanna build a PC to run Half Life 2 on max settings, can you help me out" is the question that got me 100% into PC Gaming!
Yep. funny thing is halflife 2 was my final straw as well. before that i was all about the original xbox. then I saw HL2 at costco bought it got a driver error (your pc sucks and cant play this) and spent a very long time figuring out how to play it maxed. do it right and you can spend less than 1/4 of the money pc builders charge to send you their crap alienwaresque' overpriced garbage; and outperform anything they have for sale. ;)
ATi, I like how you got your point across without sounding elitist and snobbish. I wish more PC gamers could reason like you. I, myself, prefer console gaming but I know that PC gaming is very powerful and has much more potential. I simply like the consoles more. I'm a simple gamer who grew up during the Atari era so I'm not pressed to play games with uber-ultra graphics. Just the other day, I started playing Xenogears and Legend of Dragoon again. To me, a good game is a good game, no matter what the graphics look like. Maybe if my oldest kid becomes interested in building a PC rig one day then we'll do it together but, for now, we're happy with our PS3, 360, Wii consoles.
So true. Activision Blizzard, Valve, EA? Yea there's no publishers and developers trying to change the PC market. Although I guess they aren't trying to change it since it's still strong.. PCs also have exclusives, to say otherwise is just ignorant. WOW, Starcraft, Blizzard, Witcher, Witcher 2 used to be, every other MMO pretty much, and many others. Now let's talk about the expense. PCs do tend to cost a bit more, BUT there's a lot more sales for games so you can save quite a bit there over a "generation". Added to that is that you can do more, have more freedom with things like mods, and can even emulate older games with ease. Chances are, everyone who games knows someone who can put a computer together. It's not hard. This is really a poor excuse. I'm not a PC fanboy either. I play on an Xbox for many reasons. Just poiting out the innaccuracies in this poor article.
hey ATi_Elite i am totally new at PC gaming world. in my age of 16, i have been surrounded by schoolmates that talk about what is our culture such as music, movies , politics etc. now when gaming comes to their mind all i ever hear is either FIFA or CoD. nothing else. these 2 games just dont catch my interest because i like to watch football and play real football not in a videogame and i tried the CoD games such as Modern Warfare 3 or Black Ops and it was so bland and boring and generic. Whats worse is that its on the PS3 and making it just frustating enough to shoot something. i like games such as skyrim, oblivion, morrowind,racing games,co-op games, games that have deep story like amnesia and every indie game out there. i came to this site hearing its where PC gamers are only here and help one another but it is very corrupt site filled with hate. Anyway the point is that i want to ask from you a very good PC gaming rig seeing that in this comment saying u will help all PC gamers and new. my budget is $700 because i saved up a lot of money for something and i want to get a new gaming rig and i mean everything such as a new screen,mouse,keyboard,processo r,video card etc
I'm new to PC gaming, so I'm no expert on the subject. However, here are some of the flaws I've seen with it: 1. The BIGGEST flaw is that it isn't as good as it should be. You hear a lot of talk about how PC's are "next-gen" and the graphics are so much better than consoles. Which is true, to an extent. The problem is, these "next-gen" experiences are limited to a very small (comparatively) number of games. Most PC games that I've come across are console ports. You get the benefit of higher resolutions, better AA, and fps. But otherwise, it's the same game. A large number of them even seem to use the same assets as their console counterparts, including the textures. 7 years later and most people won't even be able to tell it's not coming from a console. Which brings me to my next point: nitpicking. 1080p 60fps is great, I won't deny that. But frankly, I'm fine with 720p 30fps if I can get better textures and draw distance. I feel like a disproportionate amount of power is wasted on making PC games a little more smooth, a little more responsive, and a little crisper. This clearly isn't a common viewpoint, because the max textures on most PC games look pretty bad. A lot worse than they could. And that's the thing, PC games could look like PS5 games right now. I even believe at next year's E3, many are going to cry, "Prerendered!" Sony and Microsoft will probably choose to stay at 720p 30fps in order to make their machines look more "next gen". Now that isn't to say that you're wrong to prefer 1080p (or 2K, 4K, etc.) or 60+fps. But honestly, unless you have the ultimate gaming rig, you should take a visual hit to be able to do that. Maxing out games should not be something the majority can do. My $180 graphics card definitely shouldn't be able to. But developers know that PC gamers like to brag about maxing out games, so they appeal to the lowest common denominator. Speaking of the developers, PC games tend to not be very optimized. It's understandable given the vast number of different configurations in the marketplace, but it could still be better. Optimization is one of the reasons consoles manage to look as good as they do.
2. I know I've talked about visuals and aesthetics a lot so far, and that is far from the most important thing in gaming. But frankly, when you spend a grand on a gaming machine, you expect it to look good. However, PC's also have the problem of not PLAYING as good as they should. While PC games are the best looking on the market, they tend to be a bit old-fashioned in their play styles. Consoles are guilty of this too, but to a lesser extent. Most of this gen has involved playing extremely good looking PS2 games. There are obvious exceptions, but one of the biggest disappointments I've found in PC gaming is the lack of huge set-pieces. Now, I'm aware that PC gamers don't like scripted events, but set-pieces don't have to be scripted. God of War 3 managed to put the player on a massive Titan a couple of times (with some obvious limitations). Uncharted 2 managed to put players on an actual moving train instead of just a moving background (again with limitations). Uncharted 3 sunk a huge cruise ship in what was one of the most under-appreciated, yet incredible set-piece sequences I've ever seen. All of those were heavily scripted, obviously, but there's no reason why they would have to be on PC. And make no mistake, PCs could do all of those and do them a lot better. PCs are completely capable of much bigger and better set-pieces. Yet, you really don't see them. There are a few technical marvels, but PC games should be offering up these massive set-pieces without taking control away from the player. Star Wars 1313 looks to be moving in that direction, but it could still be a lot bigger. The reason, I think, that PC games haven't gone more in that direction is, again, optimization. That's a flaw in the infinite upgrade system that's holding the platform back. Developers have to try to appeal to the largest demographic, they can't create a game only a few will be able to play. Most tech is optional and purely aesthetic so that the market isn't segmented. In the end, PC is the most powerful platform and always will be. It is also arguably the best platform for gaming. However, it's not as good as it could, or maybe even SHOULD be. The reason to get into PC gaming isn't because of the visuals or to experience the next gen early. Widespread next gen gaming won't start until the PS4 and NextBox are released, and visually, the difference isn't really that huge. No, the reason to get into PC gaming is the same reason you would use to buy any other platform, be it PS3, Xbox 360, or Wii, it's the exclusives. There are simply a ton of gaming experiences you can get on PC that you just can't get anywhere else. Like I said, I’m no expert, but that’s been my experience so far.
Indeed. I own: PC 360 PS3 Vita DS I rock in terms of the current generation :)
PC's aren't used exclusively for gaming.
I read the whole article. Didn't see any new "argument points". And yes, the best part about a PC other than being an open platform is that it does a whole hella lot more than gaming.
It's not like owning a PC makes you part of an exclusive elite club, lol. Practically everyone(including console gamers) already have a PC for non-gaming purposes. So it makes sense that only the gaming part is compared with consoles. After all, the topic is about "gaming". And the truth is PC gaming is quite lonely and isolated. http://fc06.deviantart.net/... But you can steal games more safely, I'll give you that, lol
"And the truth is PC gaming is quite lonely and isolated" I believe that's called 'next gen' :-) See you there soon, maybe holiday 2013!
@ShinMaster "And the truth is PC gaming is quite lonely and isolated." Someone has never played a PC multiplayer game like Starcraft, counterstrike, etc. where some of the biggest organized communities exist. Also, I'm pretty sure downloading and burning console games involves the same thing as downloading PC games.
Shinmaster obviously has never played games on a PC if he thinks it is lonely and isolated. FFS DotA 2 is still in beta and has one of the largest gaming communities EVER. And that isn't even taking into account the fact Steam has its own social network built in. Then games like D2&D3, WoW, TF2, CounterStrike, Arma 2 (and the Dayz mod!!).. the list continues. VERY active communities.
"And the truth is PC gaming is quite lonely and isolated." Thats a load of BS. If you have steam go look at the amount of people that are online right now. its over 3 million people. and thats ONLY steam. not even counting people playing Starcraft, WOW, and every other game that are kinda on their own and dont work off of steam. And add people on origin playing Battlefield 3 and other games. Oh and we cant forget the people playing EvE Online. probably over a million playing right now.
@ShinMaster: At what point did he say that it makes him part of an elite club if he owns a PC? Stop making things up. So, to take apart your silly picture you posted: 1. So... it's a good thing that you are unable to buy your games because it's sold out? Nevermind that downloading games to the popular consoles is here. And it is here to stay. 2. Stealing games is easier on PC? Ha. Ever heard of the XBox 360? It's never been so easy - you don't even need to install the game, apply a crack or something - just pop it in and play it. Also: You have the capability of playing online which you don't get with most pirated PC-Games. 3. It's a good thing that people shout out racist shit on the consoles? Yeah... sounds about right. Nevermind that that happens on the PC as well. 4. Modifying games - well... it costs less and is easier on PC - so that's a point for the consoles? 5. Got my PC connected to my 50 inch flat-screen TV, enjoying a lot of games in split-screen/co-op, in 1080p with my friends on the couch. With controllers as well. So... ehm... what? That point simply makes no sense.
Pcs are more costly UPFRONT. That 600 he spent and complained about the price was what I paid for my ps3 at launch. So I don't see his argument. And you DON'T need to upgrade the pc all the time. Only enthusiasts do that. My pc was $1200 because it's a GAMING (bf3 @ 60 fps maxed) and a VIDEO EDITING machine.
Yeh it's a failing argument. Built mine a year ago and it can nearly max out BF3 and it still looks beautiful. Also PC sort of has an exclusive genre, RTS's......So If you like that sort of game a PC is for you! :)
@h311rais3r, (sorry for clicking reply to Pekolie) I started with a build that was about $600 or $700... It was nice and played a lot of games on almost MAX, but upgrading soon became an addiction and after a couple years my rig is worth approx $3000. Luckily, my university's research stipend helped pay for most of it! Just don't ask me how I convinced them that a GTX680 was necessary for my research... LOL! But yes! My original machine was the approx same price as the PS3 at launch. The nice thing is that as each PC generation (annual generation) comes around, most PC rigs can be built to play games at MAX for approx $600. Console owners only argue about this price difference after the console has been out for a couple years and received several price drops. Starting next-gen, we'll see the whole thing over again.
Who buys a Computer just to play video games? A computer can do everything. its a COMPUTER. You can do school work, watch movies, TV shows, Read articles, Contribute to forums and so much more. Most people go to Bestbuy and buy sub-par computers for $500 and then they buy a $200 console with over priced games and pay-to-play online services. why not just get a $200 video card and play games on the computer too? everything in ONE place!
let's not forget our old friend pr0n
Pay to play online maybe 360 not ps3. I love pc gaming but now I just use consoles because its just way more easier.
Easy is a common excuse for console gaming and i can understand that. but for me when it comes to tech i love a challenge. the pay off is so much more rewarding.
Really? Even though it is harder on PC, the mouse makes it a lot easier for me to aim. I don't know about you.
"Not everyone can render Heavy Rain’s graphics, even with a powered up computer, and there is still plenty of untapped power in the Playstation 3 to push the graphics limit even higher." That sentence makes this whole article a joke.
First off my PC cant run Heavy Rain because its a PS3 exclusive.(If it was on PC my mid-end PC from 2009 could run it better.) And second the PS3 has seen its limit. If you call lowering the resolution and frame rate for a some more effects untapped power then then LOL WTF.
I don't always game... but when I do, I game on PC. - Interesting Man
PS3 has not seen its limit, and the proof is obvious. Just compare The Last of Us to any previous PS3 exclusive. The fact is, the PS3 still seems to improve everything, the more developers work on it. Just look at what Naughty Dog are producing. Comparing PC Gaming to Console gaming is close to ridiculous. The differences are... lets just say alot. By the way, how did you come to the conslusion that 'the PS3 has seen its limit.' I'm not surprised a PC gamer would say that, but I'm just curious.
Pretty much. The PS3's own games are either scaled down to accommodate those with 720p TV's or they're a native 720p.
Which isn't a problem, because 720p looks fine even on a large 1080p TV, provided you're further than 3 feet away from the screen. It's silly to waste resources on something most people won't be able to see. It's more of a comfort for people to know it's in 1080p, than for them to actually be able to tell the difference. That's really only something hardcore PC gamers can see. That said 720p should be the absolute minimum for many reasons, including the fact that it's deceptive to those who thought they were buying an "HD game system" or saw "720p" on the back of the box.
PC gaming isn't for everyone, but it sure is damn fun :-)
This article is made by someone who don't understand tech at all, not only consoles but pc market too. In one Steam summer sale you can save up hundreads of $ by buying games off on insane deal. That will never happen on consoles. Every one use a PC, the cost from an every day pc to a gaming pc is a good video card and that's about it. oH, nd the whole " still plenty of untapped power in the Playstation 3 to push the graphics limit even higher." is bullshit. Ps3 dosn't even support cross game chat cause it's maxed in the amount of ram it use, skyrim lag like crazy, many other games have frame rate problem. they barely manage to get 30 fps and that's in 720p with no AA at all. it's 8 year old hardware ffs don'T say there is untapped potential.
The devil is in the wording. There's untapped potential in the PS3's cell processor..... Just like my pc processor has untapped potential due to my gpu only being able to handle so much. Also, you are so right about software costs... To simply say pc has cheaper software would be a extreme understatement.
This article has nothing news worthy, yet again N4G fails to do what its title implies. It’s meant to be News for Gamers.
Yet it's labelled as an opinion piece, so as you may or not have noticed, N4G is not just about news.
"and there is still plenty of untapped power in the Playstation 3 to push the graphics limit even higher" Where is this so called untapped power then? - BF3 on consoles doesn't support 64 players, nor 1080p, nor at 60fps, nor does it have all of the extra bit of polish to the graphics and AA, although you could argue MAG does 256 players, but looking like a PS2 games just proves next point. - Games devs have to juggle between, better graphics, more AA or larger screen resolution. - Uncharted has had 3 iterations and Naughty Dog keep saying there is plenty of power left after each game, yet after 3 games, the game doesn't run at 1080p native nor at 60fps. That ain't pushing it higher, that's just working well with that you have to work with.
Article is a joke, and that's from someone who doesn't have a gaming pc.
my best friend is a PC gamer. I understand that they obviously are more powerful. but consoles are just way more convenient. pick up and play. HD "hdmi" accessories are "upgrades" just easier
How are consoles "way" more convenient? I have my PC and my PS3 and 360 plugged into the same home theater setup. They all use the same 3 cables (HDMI, power, and ethernet). I can use my 360 controller with most PC games. Unless you are unplugging these machines and carry them with you from place to place (why would you do that?), I don't see a major difference in convenience.
I don't know where people get this idea from. I assume it's because they think you'll be opening it up and upgrading components every few days/weeks, which just doesn't happen (and shows they have never actually experienced it before). You can have your first PC built in about 30-45 minutes, ready to game in about 1 hour or 2 (depending on how much experience you've had prior to your first build). After that it just gets easier, and you only realistically do it once every year or two, except very seldom do you have to do a total rebuild. Usually you're swapping GPUs or adding in another HDD, etc. And it's not laborious and tedious, most people find it quite fun and engaging (like tricking out your car). And that all takes about 5 minutes. I've built about 10 PCs in my time (only 2 of those were my own), and it takes me about 15 minutes or so to assemble it all. After that, it's install times for Windows etc. that take up the time, and you don't even have to be around for that (I use Ghost for my own drives, so that only takes about 4 minutes to get a fresh, clean Windows volume ready to go with my own serial key). If anything, I've found my PC to be more convenient than consoles in a lot of ways (digital sales and pre-loading, performance upgrades are just a new component away, can use any controller and display type I want, etc.).
@LightofDarkness Did you intend to respond to 310dodo? It looks like you and I have the same positions.
@AKS: I was just adding my own two cents in on your sentiment ;)
"because of greed or piracy concerns, no major publisher or developer is trying to change this." Valve called.
I like consoles better. Better games, yes I happen to believe consoles have better games than PC. Don't have to worry about this freaking nonsense about graphic cards, compatibility, etc... I don't really care about having 5699858 x 248225 resolution(just made that number up). Just pick up the controller and play(yes controller is better than keyboard, yes I have a PC).
a lot of modern games support 360 controller all you have to do is install driver and the buttons are mapped.
Man, I am so glad you let us all know how much you love your consoles exclusively over your "PC". I am happy you realize keeping track of simple things like video cards is just to complicated for you and instead of forcing it and thinking for two seconds simply declare it too complicated. Who the hell wants to think, right? It's nice knowing you don't care about something, and so can simply pay it no mind. What's unfortunate is how you're clearly lying to yourself. The day I believe you console gamers don't care about resolution is the day you stop ragging on certain titles for running slightly below 720P. On the controller front....really? As always, the challenge still stands to you guys who seem to think the controller can match a mouse in speed or precision. Quake live (Free 2 play Quake 3, can run on anything) 1v1 with rail guns Install Xpadder You will never win, I guarantee it.
"As always, the challenge still stands to you guys who seem to think the controller can match a mouse in speed or precision. -- You will never win, I guarantee it." Sometimes it's about fun, you know. I find a mouse less immersive than sticks, but the much bigger gripe for me is the keyboard. They are built for typing, not gaming. On a controller, I can move my character and perform actions without moving my fingers very far. It's all easily accessible and comfortable. Trying to game with a keyboard is a headache. I COULD try and get used to it, but it won't ever be as good as a controller, which was designed for gaming. I already know the response I'll get, but at least maybe you can begin to see it from another's point of view.
I have to agree shadow - a lot of games simply play better with a controller. Racing Games, Beat 'em Up Games, Fighting Games, Action-Adventure (like the Batman Arkham series), Sport Games - the list goes on and on. There are only around two or three genres I would never play with a controller, because suddenly that becomes a HUGE headache. Shooters for example - I cannot get comfortable with the controller in my hands. Even if the mouse gets me unrealistic movements (in aiming for example), with the controller it just feels wrong and doesn't play well (I played Portal 2 on my XBox - it just sucked in my opinion compared to the PC-version. Not because of the graphics or something silly like that, simply because of the gameplay). MMOs/most of RPGs are another thing, for obvious reasons: A controller hardly has enough buttons to be mapped in a good way to the actions you are making. Talking about Mass Effect for example - hardly enjoyed it with the controller, was way more fun with the mouse in my hands. And lastly games like Diablo, where precision plays an important role, are plain unplayable with a controller (yes, yes I tried it). Also - what you have to take into consideration are gaming keyboards, specifically designed to be used by gamers. They often have macro-keys which are easily accessible. So you don't have to move your fingers very far either.
Console is easy user friendly, less powerful, and less expensive PC is more expensive, more powerful, but much less user friendly. Console doesn't have to deal with patches you have to install, or unsupported hardware. PC games however are so far ahead of console that console looks 5 gens behind. PC is starting to gain on console when it comes to the TV. More and more people are bypassing console in favor of PC and HDMI. MS is in a good position to take advantage of that with Windows 8.
I get updates all the time on my ps3. The first thing I deal with after I install a game is the there was an update found that is required to play this game message. I went to midnight release for fallout new Vegas and at 12:43am there was an update needed.
Yeah but console does all the work.
So does the PC? Most new games come with an automatic updater, you just launch the game, the patch is downloaded and installed - without you having to do a thing besides clicking on the game (I assume (well, I know) that you have to do that on the consoles as well). If the game doesn't come with the updater, you can rely on services like Steam which will keep your game up-to-date without you _doing a single thing_ - yes, you don't even have to click the game. If it doesn't have an updater, it's not a lot more of a hassle either: Download a file, double-click it, wait for the installer to finish, done. That's hardly "work", is it?
valves steam automatically updates games just like ps3 and 360. so does ea origin i don't understand why people still don't get that. pc games have lots more sales from digital distribution then what consoles have. steam winter sale 2011 Neverwinter Nights 2 Platinum – $4.99 Batman: Arkham City – $24.99 S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Bundle – $8.74 Duke Nukem Forever $4.99 Dungeons Of Dredmor $1.24 Lego Batman $4.99 Psychonauts $2.50 that is just a few examples of how steam summer sale kicks ass
Steam doesn't have everything and doesn't offer support for many older PC games. Steam cherry picks the titles with the least amount of hassle.