5 Game Sequels Worse Than Its Predecessor

Charlie writes:

"Most of the time (but not all of the time), sequels come out and they better their predecessor. Last generations games tended to do that quite often; probably because developers were still learning how to implement new and interesting mechanics and stories. But in this generation of games, sequels are now being thrown out pointlessly, with less development time or perhaps even a different developer. Some sequels aren’t even like that and yet somehow, they’re still just not as good as the originals. Check out 5 games of this generation which are worse by either a slight margin or a major one."

[Kran]

I wonder if anyone will say Skyrim at some point :/

A lot of people were unhappy about it and thought it was worse than Oblivion.... surprisingly :/

[VanillaBear]

I think Skyrim was worse but it didn't mean I thought it was crap, I loved the game. I just felt like it was dumbed down too much....not a lot of variation was found compared to past ES games. I kept looking at stuff in the game going

"Thats missing, but it was in Morrowind/Oblivion"

"Why did they take that out"

"Where is <insert weapon/spell/staff/shop/skill >...it was in Oblivion"

Things were taken out and made easier to make the game more accessible.

Oh and I disagree with Uncharted 3...it improved on everything a sequel should of. I did find the agressive AI to be a bit annoying though, why have a cover system if they are just going to charge at you while in a shoot out...what person would do that in real life.

The only thing I didn't like in U3 was what ND did to the multiplayer. They turned it into every other online game with horrible gimmicks like Kickbacks/loadouts/upgradable perks/weapon mods

"The gameplay in the multiplayer also felt very tired and very “samey” than the last game’s multiplayer"

See I think it was the opposite...it felt nothing like U2s multiplayer.

[Kran]

So... you're saying:

U3 improved on everything....

Though the AI and the multiplayer wasn't as good...

so... not only do you see my slight dilemma, but you kind of just contradicted yourself.

:P

[blitz0623]

It's hard to say that a sequel is worse when it still scored 90%+ when you take into context the predecessor that scored 95%, ie U3 and ME3 (ignoring the ending) IMO are not in any way worse than U2 and ME2. Dragon age 2 and AC Revelations on the other hand are the accurate definitions of worse sequels.

[ABizzel1]

This is like saying getting $50 for free is worse than getting $100 for free. Yeah the $100 may be better, but at the end of the day you'd be satisfied with either of the two.

[nevercloser07]

Yeah the UC3 vs. UC2 thing is stupid.

UC3 is a better game than UC2. Period. The thing is, Uncharted 2 was a monumental shift in what people think of as an action adventure, story-driven game. UC2 was a better game compared to the time of its release and the state of the industry at the time. However, if UC3 came out a few years ago and UC2 came out now people would be complaining about UC2 being slow, etc.

It's funny because people wanted it exactly like Uncharted 2 but better. If Naughty Dog made it the exact same with a different story & better graphics people would have flipped out saying they were lazy. They try to change a few things and people say it was too mainstream compared to Uncharted 2. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[Oh_Yeah]

i dont really agree with any of these the only one i cant give a real opinion on is revelations, im not even half way threw yet. the game that sticks out to me this gen was killzone 3...the graphics became more cartoonish looking, feels like theres no weight to your guns, overall felt more like cod. thats what made killzone 2 a great shoooter the weighty feeling and the difficulty. I thought uncharted 3's story and gun sounds > uncharted 2. thats what i hated the most about uc 2 was the toy sounding guns lol idk kinda ruined the experience a little for me. Dragon age origins combat and graphics were horrible! compared to dragon age 2. mass effect 2 & 3 were about the same. Gears...i thought was mediocre through out the series but 3 i could at least play a little bit before instantly putting down...still only an alright game, just felt more polished i guess graphically & gameplay wise, enough for me to give it a chance.

[xursz]

Kran, you submitted the article, and you also seem to be in here trying to cause controversy. By any chance, are you staffed by the site who wrote (or the author of) this article?

[ReservoirDog316]

I would say the story wasn't as good as Uncharted 1&2 too. There was a lot of big reveals in it but one of them was purely abandoned even though it was a really big* statement and just a lot of little plot threads that seemed to have been forgotten (like how that one bad guy seemed invincible but actually isn't).

The stories were the big thing about Uncharted that they gave so much attention to but when you look at the sum of its parts, it came up lacking.

Still a really good game though. Especially when the plane is going down. Man.

[ShinMaster]

Boring story.
Boring, dead characters.
Simplistic combat.
Feels like events and accomplishments don't matter.
Repetitive fetch quests.

Oh, but it has massive beautiful landscapes for you to roam around and waste time on, so.... 9.5/10!!!
Seriously, I feel Bethesda gets too much credit at times. Game was so overhyped.

And that's why 100hr open-world games aren't always better than more focuse linear games :)
But in the end, I guess it's all subjective.

[nukeitall]

I really don't feel like Uncharted 3, Gears of War 3 or Mass Effect 3 should be on that list. It seems out of place, since they all were solid sequels.

It's not like Dragon Age II, Bioshock 2 or Ninja Gaiden 3 who was almost universally accepted as a "worse" sequel.

I feel it is a poor list that just picked on hugely popular *recent* games!

[vakarian75]

I don't like how in skyrim you cant have a sword and shield equipped and still be able to use magic like in oblivion and about uncharted 3 its not that it was worse but that they made it too soon after 2 so there wasn't a big change like from 1 to 2 where there were huge changes to the graphics and gameplay plus the edition of multiplayer.

[JDcg]

Yeah UC3's ending sucked, mainly the boss fight. You cant say the boss fight in UC3 was better than UC2. LOL Press "x" press "circle" press "triangle" the end. I felt like a bad ass at the end of UC2.

[MiamiACR21]

I'm a huge Uncharted fan, and will fight to the verbal death with anyone who smites its name. But with that said, I was not happy with Uncharted 3 coming from Uncharted 1 and 2; it was flat out embarrassing on some levels in comparison.

[Aghashie]

I don't know w people insists in Uncharted 3. I had a better experience w Uncharted 2. Almost the same w Killzone 3... if not because I can play the game w the sharp-shooter, that game would be stored on my closet w another hundred or so titles.
Uncharted 3 is a good game, but lacks quality when compared to the second.
I can see the disagree's coming. But that's my opinion, so I don't care.

[bakasora]

Where's Diablo 3?

[ThanatosDMC]

I thought the villain in U3 was bad compared to the guy in U2. She didnt seem evil enough which kind of screwed the story a bit, but the story between Drake and Sully was top notch.

Agreed with bakasora. Where's Diablo 3?

[abzdine]

I still think U2 is better than U3. I could clearly see they couldn't top what they did with U2, which is 100% ok because they raised the bar SO HIGH !

[Qbanj69]

All I'm going to say is that I have both Platinums on Uncharted 1 and 2.

I could not get past 5 hours in U3... It just didn't draw me in like U1 and U2- it felt tedious playing it.

I understand that's just my opinion, but I have to agree with the list.

[BrutallyBlunt]

Bioshock and Crackdown should be on that list.

[Blastoise]

Bioshock 2 was awesome, never understood the hate for that game. I enjoyed it more than the first, and yes, I played the original first.

[MysticStrummer]

Can't say about Crackdown but I definitely agree Bioshock 2 was a big letdown after the first game.

[nukeitall]

@Blastoise:

The first Bioshock had a great story line with awesome twists. The second game was the exact same game with none of the twist.

In my opinion, Bioshock 2 should have definitely been on that list more so than many on the current list.

[ALLWRONG]

Every SOCOM made this gen should also be on the list. There hasn't been a good SOCOM since the PS2, even though there have been like 45 of them :P

Sometimes it seems 95% of games are sequels.

[ZeroWil]

I really enjoyed Bioshock 2. The first half was a bit slow, but it really picked up after that. The only problem I had was that I never really felt like I was playing as a Big Daddy, and the wonder of Rapture wasn't there this time around (though I still loved exploring the areas).

[chazjamie]

gran turismo 5 should be on that list. Disappointed with every aspect of that game, from the graphics to the damage, its all so bad.

[MrBeatdown]

I loved Crackdown 1. I bought Gears 1 as my first 360 game, and while I loved Gears 1, I felt like an idiot for not getting Crackdown instead.

I tried the demo for Crackdown 2 and wondered what the hell happened. I haven't played Crackdown 1 in years, so I don't know if my tastes and expectations had changed or if the game was as bad as I thought it was. I'm guessing it's the latter though.

Also, Deus Ex: Invisible War, Killzone 3, Metal Gear Solid 2, MotorStorm Apocalypse, and any Final Fantasy after IX.

All good games, but none of them were as good as the game before it.

[DanJenkoFMV]

I know I'm at a minority but I do think Uncharted 3 was better than 2. Online multilpayer was greatly improved and the campaign was better gameplay wise if not narrative wise.

[StarFox]

actually i thought the online was atrocious U2's online is still way better imo.

[Thatguy-310]

Uncharted isnt a bad game its just as good as Uncharted 2. I mean from a technical stand point it does improve but from storytelling i dont think so. I mean from the poor character development to the hordes of enemies that appear left and right one play through was enough for me. Multiplayer wise i do prefer Uncharted's 2 but the one in Drake's deception is still fun. Hopefully they bring back the old elements for Uncharted 4. Plus a better villain and give different characters more screen time like they did in Among Thieves.

[JDcg]

No UC3 was great by all accounts but one thing UC2 did better was the boss fight. UC3 boss fight was the biggest disappointment. Lazaravich was tough as sh*t to beat. I felt like I accomplished something at the end of that game. But UC3's boss fight could of been waaaaaaaay better. I don't know why they didn't do something with that hallucination thing. They could of basically had any kind of boss they wanted.

[Jazz4108]

I have tried to play and finish uncharted 3 multiple times and it feels like a chore and this is coming from someone who could not put the fist two down. I dnt play multiplayer much so I can't comment on that.

[xtremeimport]

yet still great games. difference of a few points here and there. kind of a silly article.

[Nerdmaster]

Changing the stupid leveling system from Oblivion/Morrowind alone makes Skyrim better than those games.

[BitbyDeath]

Agreed. Oblivion had the worst levelling system ever.

[Irishguy95]

Skyrim = Action adventure.

Edit---
Also mynameisEvil, I agree abotu morrowind, never played Df though, I also think NV is my favorite bethesda game(even though Bethesda didn't make it). Good leveling system(no level or loot scaling). Good world, varied quests and gameplay. Better faction and moral system than Bethesda games.

[mynameisEvil]

I'd say every Elder Scrolls game after Daggerfall was worse than it's predecessor. Morrowind was, in my opinion, the last GREAT Elder Scrolls game, meaning that I only have two Elder Scrolls games that I really like.

Arena was... broken.
Oblivion's leveling system was broken...
Skyrim was just boring...

*sigh*

Also, really? NV felt like a cash-in? It not only improved the gameplay, it brought Fallout 3's terrible breaking of the lore into an acceptable spot while giving us a true Fallout game itself. I don't understand why people bash on that game so much. Was it buggier at launch? Yes, but I distinctly remember Fallout 3 being buggier, if even slightly. Besides, most of those bugs aren't there anymore, so I just don't get it.

[MadLad]

For me, the series sort of died after Morrowind. Oblivion was a mess. Skyrim, more or less, was just what Oblivion should have been, though it still had issues. The series has simply gotten too watered down at this point, At least with Skyrim they gave us an interesting world to explore again, even if it was bland and static.

/rant

New Vegas, as far as open-world RPGs go, is possibly the best game out there right now. It is easily one of the best roleplaying in years. Good customization, well written story, great characters, and lots of player choice.

[Fyflin]

Bioshock 2, easily.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

EASILY

[SSKILLZ]

Minerva's den for the rebound Easily !

[Summons75]

I disagree with Gears 3...I though gears 2 was the worst

[Silly gameAr]

I love the Gears series, but 3 just felt like one big fetch quest to me. I thought Gears 2 was better, though 3 did have it's moments.

[Summons75]

gears 2 was getting dragged around by Dom for no realson what so ever, felt like I wasted my entire time on finding his dead wife. That's why I loved that Dom died best scene ever

[da_2pacalypse]

Gears2 was by far the worst gears of war game of the series. Besides, Gears3 has the best online MP... and the story is actually interesting.

[JellyJelly]

I enjoyed Gears 3 much more than Gears 2. The levels were more fun and the multiplayer was miles better than before.

The strategic elements they added to Horde mode in Gears 3 made it some of the best online components I've experienced this gen.

[TBM]

for me the first gears is the best in the series, but i 150% agree with you about Dom i was extremely happy when they killed his a$$. i actually laughed during that whole sequence of them trying to get me to have emotional feeling for his stupid a$$ character.

part 2 was the gayest game i've ever played with him being soooo damn wimpy and whiny.

[Summons75]

oh yeah, series wise the 1st is definitely the best just out of 2 and 3 I prefer 3 anyday

[InTheLab]

Not sure why people disagreed. Gears 2 was clearly a cash in and the multiplayer was broken for a year.

[Skateboard]

Fanboys.

[InTheLab]

Cliffy B even said it was his biggest disappointment. Gears 2 is the reason why there's more cutscenes, deeper relationships, and dedicated servers in Gears 3.

@Skateboard..

must be...

[shadow2797]

It may have been a cash in, but I felt like the Gears 2 campaign was paced a lot better than the first. There was a lot of variety in the environments, whereas Gears 1 was incredibly samey and dragged the whole game.

I beat Gears 2 in a couple of days, but Gears 1 took me 6 months because I kept getting bored. And while Gears 2 didn't have the best story, at least it had one.

Different strokes for different folks. Someday I'll get around to playing Gears 3.

[DEATHxTHExKIDx]

the sawed off IMO was the biggest mistake in GOW3.

[SnakeCQC]

agreed with everything except for uncharted and acr really they made the list but modern warfare 1.2amd 1.3 didnt ????

[Bigbangbing]

it's =/= its, ffs.

[dafegamer]

for me u3 was better than u2. Whats up with the U2>U3 theory?
Honestly

[Fez]

U1>U2>U3 for me. Ask me next week and it will probs be different though!

[Xperia_ion]

Looks at the title and picture.........facepalm.

[Philoctetes]

This.

Not giving them the hit that they so desperately want.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

I seem to always be the only one "defending" Uncharted 3. I don't think it was worse than, Uncharted 2, but like I tell everyone, UC2 was Naughty Dog's "Sixth Sense." Poor M.Night Shyamalan can't get people to like anything else he does if he pays them in cash. Uncharted 2 was just so good that people got spoiled and critical, unsurprisingly in the PS3 community. I actually feel Uncharted 3 had the best story of the series, with certain things about Drake coming to light and finally seeing his origins with Sully. Was it better than Uncharted 2? Probably not. Enough of the game felt like I had done it before, but I think they're about equal. And what added co-op campaign is he talking about? The only co-op is know of is the same with Uncharted 2.

[omi25p]

Uncharted 3's story was awful.

Its story did make anysense what so ever, Talbot, Cant die, Then all of a sudden he can.

Drake, Sully, Chloe and Charlie have 2 secret locations that only they know about and yet both location have Marlowes men are there, So that obviously means one of them is leaking information but you never find out who.

Talbot seems to have some Mythical power to tell the future, Disappear and survive being shot, Yet you never find out why or how.

For no apparant reason the pirate king guy pretends to have captured sulivan and only after Drake has killed what must have been around 90% of his crew does he tell Drake he was making it up.

And the whole reason Marlowe and Talbot wanted to go to the secret city and capture the genie was to have hallucinogenic darts to control people. But then BEFORE they went to the Secret city to get the hallucinogenic stuff they had already shot both Drake and Charlie with the hallucinogenic drug.

So if they had already made some hallucinogenic then what was the whole point in trying to find the location of the secret city in the first place.

Finally after Drake has been shot but the hallucinogenic drug that Marlowe hadn't discovered yet, Marlowe tells Drake that she knows who he really is, But before we find out anything she dies.

Its a stupid story poorly told.

The Co-op Was awful because rather than use all the great game play changes they made for the single player they literally copy and pasted Uncharted 2's co-op and just added a few new levels. for example There was no in-depth melee combat in co-op

[JaredH]

I agree completely about the story and I honestly wish people disagreeing would comment how the story's not plot hole ridden or not worse than Uncharted 2.

The games levels and gameplay are great(better than 2 imo) but it's 100% apparent that the levels were created before the story and not just because Naughty Dog said so. The pirate section says hi...

[stevenhiggster]

Wow, I already thought that UC3 was the worst of the trilogy but I hadn't even noticed, or thought about, half the stuff you just mentioned!

My main problems were just the terrible aiming, terrible difficulty spikes and completely obvious 'monster closets'.

UC1 and 2 are two of my favourite games ever and while 3 is hardly rubbish, it doesnt come close to the first 2.

I honestly think Sony forcing 3D onto their devs has hurt a few sequels, UC3, Killzone 3 and Motorstorm Apocalypse are all noticeably worse than their predecessors. All have 3D.

[Nac]

First, Talbot is as much an archetype of a character as Drake. Both seem to play into a sense of type and role. Drake is the roguish hero and Talbot a somewhat mysterious villain who utilises mysticism and cunning in his own way. His weapon is that of illusion and he constantly uses it while at the same time still being flesh and blood. He can and does die. Cutter was drugged and his perception can not be trusted. Talbot is a "magic man" first and foremost, meant to deceive.

Second, they were followed. Drake picks this up as the chateau is burning. No one is betraying anyone.

Thirdly, Rameses("pirate king guy")was listening to Drake and Marlow's conversation, he knew about Iram and(being Arabic)knew what it was. Drake put it best, he is a pirate, he wants the loot that a city like that would provide. So he lies, wanting to use Drake. You have never heard someone lie before to get what they want?

Fouthly, there is no such thing as a "one-size fits-all" hallucogenic just like there is no singular kind of explosive. The water of Iram was a hallucogenic "A-Bomb" of sorts, going beyond what Talbot drugged Cutter with ten fold. This can be seen with Drake; Drake with a Dart to his neck was no where near as intense as the Drake who had just had the water of Iram. One clearly makes someone more susceptible to persuasion and the other driving them completely mad.

Finally, the bit about Drake's history and who he was is completely irrelevant. The whole theme of UC3 and the UC series as a whole is the idea of ""Greatness From Small Beginnings." As a child Drake did not see himself as being anything of worth. The result was he adopted the last name of "Drake" and by doing so also adapoted a legacy of greatness. What kid doesn't want to believe their isn't something great about them when in fact it is the opposite The turning point is when he rejects the ring and by doing so decides he won't live off the greatnes of another but instead will strive to create his own.

Frankly, it is not a "stupid, poorly told story". Some just aren't smart enough to comprehend what is going on.

[JaredH]

So you're whole reasoning for Talbot getting shot but not getting shot is that he's mysterious? Yeah I guess I'm just dumb and can't comprehend that.

Also, the whole greatest from small beginnings is part of the plot but what about Drake being obsessed to the point of getting in pointless danger. That becomes completely ignored by SPOILER Sully falsely dying and Charlie being completely fine except a broken leg. If either actually died then the countless warnings about someone eventually getting hurt would have actually mattered. Could they not have brought up the dead cameraman from 2 up as an example either. Unfortunately, at the end of the game everyone is just where they were at the beginning. Except for villains of course. That may be how Naughty Dog wants their games to be since they're supposed to stand alone but why bring up a concept over and over if nothing comes from it. Especially since Elena getting hurt from a grenade blast out does anything that happens to Drake's friends in 3.

[Nac]

No,if you know anything about classical story structure than you should know that all characters have a part to play. Talbot is destined to be the individual who uses illusion. Taken straight from the wiki:

"He is nicknamed "The Magician" by Drake in his journal, as a reference to his use of Tarot cards. In mysticism, the Magician is said to be able to make anything he imagines real simply by saying it aloud, referencing Talbot's control of Cutter. The Tarot card he slips Cutter is The Tower, a card traditionally referring to a great fall or a rude awakening."

He is a trickster to the core. No one ever seems to bitch about the fact that Drake and Sully also fake their deaths at the beginning of UC3. Isn't Talbot doing essentially the same thing they did, the only difference is we were in on the ruse.

As for Drake's obsession, it is geared more towards beating Marlowe than it is getting to the city itself. He puts other individuals in harm's way because he is reckless, because he has something to prove to himself. Everyone is not back where they were at the beginning given the ring scene with Marlowe and the fact that the scene itself acts as a watershed moment. More so than UC2, Sir Francis Drake's legacy comes into play, something that the ring represents. Drake learns then and there that he does not need the ring to become great. His object of obsession is no more after it is swallowed in the sand. It is because of this that a moment can be shared with both Sully and Elena right before the end. Drake's connection with the ring went as far to point that it was used as a wedding band and even seemed more important than the band he had lost. In a way, Sully is offering him a new life when he offers him the old ring, one that is not connected to any predetermined legacy that came before it. "Drake" can finally be Nathan, and by putting the ring back on for Elena he illustrates a man who is ready to live in the present despite the fact that he has always lived in the past. You do not need martyrdom to get a point across or death to change a character.

[JaredH]

So Talbot knew he was going to get shot like Drake and Sully? It's not like Charlie had a blank at that time either. Just because his character is decided as a trickster doesn't mean he can somehow survive a bullet or somehow pretend to be shot when he didn't see it coming.

For the danger I still disagree. Uncharted 3 got rid of all sense of danger for the main characters and have for future games since this game constantly says "someone's gonna get hurt". Then no one does. He didn't put anyone in danger since no one got hurt imo.

I know this is an out there reference but it's like the movie Sucker Punch where the main character gets punched through a building and off a cliff in the first 10 minutes. Then they walk away. That just sets it up that no one will get hurt. That's bad storytelling.

In Uncharted 3 Charlie breaks his leg then his companions keep on saying someone else will get hurt and no one does. I ask why set it up then?

[Biggest]

I like your points are being refuted completely and your response is "I don't get it so it's stupid", JaredH. If you don't get it, cool. If it's not your cup of tea, awesome. Give it up already. You aren't the only person not to understand a story just as there are plenty of people that follow it just fine. I think that UC3 had the best story and experience of the three games. UC2 will always stand as the pinnacle due to it's release. Had UC3 and UC2 reversed, the opposite would be true. There are plot-holes aplenty in most every game. Usually you'll see someone write a book or make a video to explain after the fact. Uncharted 3 makes sense. . . Just not to you.

[JaredH]

Am I saying I didn't get the game? I'm saying there's plot holes and I don't think it's as good as 2 story wise. I'm just supposed to believe he's mysterious because Naughty Dog said so? No, they're supposed to make me believe that throughout the game and they didn't.

If you guys are so good at telling what a good story is then you should know that everything should have a pay off and not just Drake's arc. Especially in an action oriented game. Even if Talbot is brought up to be mysterious there's no pay off to that. It's not like you beat him at his own trickery to kill him. You just shoot him in the face. There's no pay off to bringing up danger constantly either. Everyone ends up fine. There's no payoff for Drake's obsession for 20 years ending up being something that could destroy the world. There's no payoff to the spider creatures like there was to the monsters in 2, etc. Uncharted is a story driven game and I think this one was disappointing in that regard in my honest opinion. Don't say I don't get it to try and make my opinion invalid.

I'm not even saying the games terrible, it's good, but not as good as Uncharted 2.

[Knushwood Butt]

Sorry, but the story just isn't worth defending: it's dumb beyond belief.

I haven't played it for a while (beat it once, then never went back, unsurprisingly...) so my memory is a bit rusty, but:

Marlow and co are supposed to know everything and basically have powers above MI6, but are all incredibly stupid and don't actually know anything.

Why is Chloe in this, exactly?

After the ridiculous pirate ship section, Drake washes up on some random beach, only to find Elena waiting there for him????!!!

That's just for starters, and the blatantly obvious stuff.

Also, not related to story, but still bugged me: why did the change Elena to make her like a palette swap of Chloe??

[EmperorDalek]

The story sucked... it lead no-where. The characters were rushed. Who was Cutter? Elena knew him too, yet we never found out where. Him and Chloe just disappeared. Salem was probably supposed to be in the game longer, but they ran out of time, so he was cut short.

And as omi25P said, Marlowe knew who Drake really was, that his real name isn't Drake... but that never got explained. And personally I think it's stupid that after three games, the only protagonist to die was Jeff the cameraman. Makes it too happy and safe and pointless.

The locations were too disconnected, he went from London to France to Syria to Yemen to the middle of the ocean (why was he there?) then back to Yemen (WTF?) then SOMEHOW he went from the sinking city to Yemen again... and don't forget he got there by plane.

Anyone saying "the story was good, screw off haters!" are just in denial.

[Knushwood Butt]

@ EmperorDalek

Everyone on the planet seems to know Cutter, apart from Marlow and anyone in her crew.... They've got all the data on Drake though! Maybe they just forgot to pull Cutter's file, or, erm, something... Or maybe the story just doesn't make a lick of sense.

[Nac]

I find that you seem to be over exaggerating these said "plot holes" and trying to reason for a sense of fault in the story where myself and others seem to see no issue whatsoever.

In regards to another point, yes, you need to take Talbot as the character he is presented as. I believed he upheld a certain sense of mysticism, I don't know why you can't see this. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it is a duck. Talbot had all the characteristics of this type of character via behavior and actions, all he was missing was an I.D. card.

As for a "pay off" to every action, have you not realized that the story is about Drake? The "pay off" is that the man who seemed to take on the role of the Illusionist has been bested by brawn. The battle with Talbot throughtout UC3 is meant to illustrate the fact that the mind can not always be trusted and sometimes deeper meanings, understandings, and the truth itself is not always presented at face value and has to be fought for. Why do you think Drake has so many hallucinations throughout the story. Why do you think Marlow tries to trick him into believing Sully could betray him? The answer is that what is seen and felt can no longer be trusted. The last sense that Drake can fully depend on in UC3 is his sense of trust. Drake's true deception is what he sees along his journey and instead is forced to rely on what he KNOWS.

Darke's "pay off" for his obsession of twenty years is perhaps the biggest "pay off" of the entire experience and is a watershed moment in his life. The "pay off" comes in the form of the ring and the action of letting it go. In many ways(like Indiana Jones) he is letting go an item that he placed a sense of purpose and wealth in, despite the fact that it is the people in his life that he needs to hold onto. Drake doesn't need to lose them to appreciate them. Hell, bad storytelling is foreshadowing everything that is going to happen and I am thankful Amy Hennig didn't fall prey to such a cliche'.

In all honesty, if you compare the story of UC and UC2 with UC3 you should be able to tell that UC3 is a more mature story simply becuase it does not fall back on dumbing everything down. There is symbolism and depth to what is going on; it breaks from the formulaic ways of the first two. I am sorry that it isn't too "on the nose" for some.

You asked for someone to give a reason for disagreeing and I have. I have rebutted everyone of your baseless claims with reason and support and yet you continue to put your fingers in your ears and yell over me, not really wanting to hear what I have to say. If you don't like UC3, that is cool, but don't say the story doesn't work when it only doesn't work for you.

Oh, and by the way, read Joseph Campbell's
The Hero with a Thousand Faces to get the way these types of stories work.

[Nac]

"I seem to always be the only one 'defending' Uncharted 3."

Excuse me? I fight tooth and nail when defending UC3 thank you very much. UC3 tried to be more of an interactive cinematic experience, something I think it excelled at. UC2 was more "game" like in deisgn and execution. I see UC2 as the better "game" where UC3 is the better experience.

[omi25p]

For me its:

Uncharted 3 : AWFUL STORY
Gears of War 3 : Made far to easy
Dead Space 2 : Good game but not as good as DS1
Bioshock 2: Terrible game.
Infamous 2: Awful story but good game
Rainbow Six Vegas 2 : Made to play more like COD
Splinter Cell Conviction : Worst game this gen.

Splinter Cell is my favorite franchise. I think Conviction killed Splinter Cell. So for killing my favorite franchise its the worst game this gen

[MattyG]

You obviously didn't play many games this gen if you think Conviction is the worst.

[wenaldy]

I disagree with everything he listed except Conviction. Chaos Theory is the best installment, Conviction is the worst.

[ALLWRONG]

I hated Double Agent most. Only thing bad about Conviction to me was "black and white" during stealth and not being able to hide bodies.

My 3 fav
Pandora Tomorrow
Chaos Theory
Conviction

[MattyG]

@wenaldy I agree that it's a bad Splinter Cell game, but not a bad game in it's own right.

[BitbyDeath]

Don't agree with your inFamous 2 comment.
I liked the story.

[JewyMcJew]

The added sub-par malay combat killed it for me (although it's still my second favorite game of all time) :)

The story was compelling but there does seem to lack some of the magic of the first. Can't put my finger on it though...

[MattyG]

To be fair, Uncharted 3 had a lot to live up to seeing as how its predecessor is one of the best games this gen, if not of all time. There was very little to improve upon.

[goldwyncq]

Uncharted 3 wasn't bad at all, just overshadowed by its predecessor's success.

[shinrock]

He wrong about one thing's the locust queen is not Marcus's mother.

[smashcrashbash]

I am sorry but people really don't know how to write at all. By writing 5 games WORSE then it's predecessor automatically makes people feel that you are completely ragging on the sequel. If you think that certain aspects of the game where not exactly up to the standards of the first game that is fine. But the moment you use the negative word 'worse' you immediately pull in the trolls and fanboys who start making claims and trying to use opinion as fact. Like this guy above me. Who says Infamous 2's story was awful? Is that a fact or your opinion? Or the people acting as if Uncharted 3 or Resistance 3 were the worst games ever.

[goldwyncq]

AC:Revelations wasn't up to par with the previous 2 installments but still did a great job wrapping up Ezio's story. Besides, some of the missions were actually the best in the whole series and that hookblade was really awesome. They only ran out of ideas to improve the gameplay, so it felt like it was more of the same.

[310dodo]

best sequel in a long time or maybe ever

id say between Arkham City or Skyrim

[Gridloc]

So every Halo game after Combat Evolved just keeps getting better? Why cause of the multiplayer? ODST and Reach single player sucked balls...

[TheRacingX]

Halo 2 started out good, then just bogged down, the story was soooo ridiculous, Halo 3 was even worse, 1/2 way through it was Titanic, "just sink already"... I actually liked the ODST story, the flashbacks to your squads battles leading up to the end was a unique twist I thought, I couldn't finish Reach I just started having Halo 2/3 flashbacks.

[Bowzabub]

How about the top 5 articles worse than their predecessors?

[Knushwood Butt]

lolz

bubs up

[shutUpAndTakeMyMoney]

Portal 2 is one of the best sequels.

[tigertron]

Uncharted 3, Killzone 3 and Resistance 2.

None of them were better than the games that came before. RFOM, UC2 and KZ2 were the better games.

[ShaunCameron]

I see what you did there.

[tigertron]

Which was?

[ShaunCameron]

@ tigertron

Named PS3 exclusives.

[coolbeans]

". . .RFOM, UC2 and KZ2 were the better games."

You see what he did here too?

[tigertron]

So you're saying I'm an Xbox troll? oh dear...

Well if you've read my posts on here you'll know I'm actually a big PS3 guy. I just picked those games because they came into my head at the time and they were games that I was really hyped for. Maybe ND, GG and Insomniac set the bar too high with their previous games? anyway, they're not bad games, they're pretty awesome but I don't think they're as good as their precessors.

I would have listed 360 exclusives but in all honesty I preferred many sequels - say Gears 3 to Gears 2. Although if you want I can say Gears 2 wasn't as good as Gears 1. Alan Wake's American Nightmare isn't as good as the first, but that isn't a fully fledged sequel.

All my opinion of course, but if you think I'm stealth trolling you're mistaken.

[BitbyDeath]

Dunno why you got so many disagrees.
The games before each of these are the best to what these series have to offer.

[ritsuka666]

Sequels Worse Than Its Predecessor"

Killzone 3 for sure...

[dragon_rocks]

Title saying 'worse than' implies that the predecessor itself was bad and now sequel is worse. It should have been 'sequels not as good as' actually.

[MrDead]

N4G bile gold, this site is becoming more pathetic by the second.

I thought the approval system was to keep crap off the site but it seems any flamebait opinion piece gets approved.

N4G stop killing yourself and remember what your meant to be doing. N4G is meant to be News for Gamers not a playground for 5 year olds who enjoy flicking each other’s balls.

[Hanuman]

Perfect Dark was killed on 360..Brutally.

[Hazmat13]

i like trains

[linkratos]

For games that were still good and fun but just couldn't stand up to their legendary predecessors:

Mario Sunshine (from Mario 64)

BioShock 2 (from Bioshock)

Pokemon RSE (from Pokemon GSC)

Twilight Princess (from Wind Waker)

GTA IV (from San Andreas)

[RockmanII7]

Now that you mention it, Bioshock/Bioshock 2 would have been perfect for this article. Guess the author forgot about it.

[linkratos]

Yeah. Still a great game, but just not the best the series has to offer.
I will say that some of those are my personal opinion and could see people enjoying GTA4 and TP more.

[Shotcalm]

i agree with this article.

[coolbeans]

Grabbing a bunch of of scores from metacritic and stating why you think those sequels failed to measure up to their predecessors is uninspired. There also seems to be dozens of variables not taken into account:

- The predecessors' score may have less critic scores than the more recently released entry in the series.

- Standards may have drastically evolved for certain genres in between development of the two titles being compared.

- ...It's metacritic for crying out loud! Don't you guys/gals (on finiteuniverse.com) have your own reviews?

[edwineverready]

I felt the ending in uc3 was a bit rushed and to same to uc2.
In uc2 you had this big secret world where you really spend some time and had all the weird inhabitants of that world. in uc3 you did not spend to much time in the secret world and it was less worked out and only had the weird fire head people living there. did not really like the ending in uc3.

[bunfighterii]

Yeah Uncharted 2 will always be unbeatable. It was so good no other Uncharted game will live up to it. Uncharted 3 was awesome but it just couldn't touch the lofty heights of Among Thieves.

[Jls1]

imo uc2 is way better than uc3. If the team didnt split to work on the last of us uc3 coulda been better

[RockmanII7]

I will always say that Halo Reach was worse than Halo 3. Also I disagree with MW2 being better than MW3, MW3 is actually my favorite in the series behind 2/4.

[DasTier]

Hmmn I almost agree with you 100% except you forgot too mention they are all inferior to the original Call of Duty (oh and that I never played MW3)

[RockmanII7]

I never played the original CoD so I have no opinion on it.

[JewyMcJew]

They are only mentioning sequels that were SLIGHTLY less in quality than the original.

What about all the sequels that were truly terrible?

[spunkee311]

I have to disagree with a lot on this list. I felt the Uncharted 3 campaign was a lot better than 2. Not to say UC2 was bad by any means. It was revolutionary at the time. Showed what an action game could really be. But I liked the overall story, enhancements, and action better in UC3.
Gears of War 3 I felt was light years ahead of 2. They are all great in my opinion. And yeah I agree with the whole been there done that feel it had. But its Gears of War lol, so you know what you are getting into. 3 had a SUperior multiplayer along with a lot more options, improvements. Can't go wrong with 4 player Co Op.

[DasTier]

New Vegas was a far better game than 3. Also some of the other honourable mentions deserved to be on this list over assassins creed Revalations (Which IMO was much more fun than brotherhood)

[BraveToaster]

Do people seriously care about metascores?
Don't you realize how easy it is to pay off a critic?

[Relientk77]

Assassin's Creed Revelations definitely

did not match the greatness of AC 2 or Brotherhood

[Garrison]

Examples (In no particular order)of sequels that are worse than the original are:

Halo 2 (Wasn't as good as the original by a longshot imo, the battle riffle lost it's magic, story got weirder as well)

Socom 3. (The series went straight to hell after this one)

Everquest 2. (They used the worst graphics engine known to mmo's "at the time" and I would almost say online games in general. To this day that game can't run smooth.... anywhere.)

[Orionsangel]

I agree. UC3 was overrated. Especially by girl gamers who have a crush on Nathan Drake.

Some people called UC3 a masterpiece. Just wow. I liked Uncharted 1 and I loved Uncharted 2. Uncharted 3 on the other hand was a frustrating mess of a game. The story was ridiculously hokey and convoluted. The ending was basically UC2 again, run away from the crumbling floor. Yawn! Game wise Nathan Drake spends too much of the game drugged. How fun were those levels to control? I'm getting a headache. Wow. Walking through the desert. Fun times! No it wasn't. Other times you're running away from flesh eating beetles. Oh this again? There also weren't enough puzzles for me. I will say the acting was amazing. I can't say nothing bad about that and the opening, albeit a ripoff of Last Crusade opening, was fun.

Now to what really made me dislike this game. The god awful controls! Dear lord I wanted to break my controller. Aiming in UC3 was the worst. It's like Nathan's arm keeps jerking from side to side, but couple that with enemies that take 3 to 5 shots, even in the head to kill! Every time an enemy appeared wearing that heavy armor or had a riot shield. I knew I was in trouble. It doesn't help that UC3 is obsessed with random enemies with laser sightings appearing from all angles at the worst times. Oh and if you get hit by these laser sniper enemies. One shot. It's over! It can get even worse when my character is locked in a hand to hand combat fight with an enemy and those laser sniper guys have lasers on my front side, back side. I can't move out of the way. The game has me locked in a fighting match. Ahhh! It was so frustrating!

I really think I played a different game than most critics or maybe everyone was on Uncharted Kool-aid? I don't know. In-conclusion. It's not completely awful. There's some nice graphical moments and cut scenes. The good acting of course, but other than that. I really feel Naughty Dog dropped the ball on this sequel. They rushed it to the market.

[Knushwood Butt]

Hey, but walking in the desert for 15 minutes was OK because it looked pretty.... /s

[LanifJec]

The desert goes far beyond simple gameplay mechanics. In those 15 minutes you saw a man brought to his lowest point, not only did you see it, but you were with him the entire time. The second night in particular, to me, was especially powerful. As in any game, when you push forward on the joystick Drake moves forward, however when you let it go he doesn't simply stop and stand looking bored - he falls to his hands and knees, utterly exhausted. He can not even so much as hold himself up without your invisible hand to guide him. You're not just the guy with the controller in hand, you are Drake's only motivation.

Drake's plight only gets worse through the sequence continuing through to the "Red Rock" segment where you hear a voice-over of Marlo quoting T.S. Elliot "Only there is shadow under this red rock. Come in under the shadow of this red rock. I will show you something different from either your shadow in morning, stretching out behind you, or your shadow at evening rising to meet you. I will show you fear in a handful of dust." Drake is clearly going mad at this point, suffering from dehydration and heat stroke. The task before him is weighing heavy on his already broken mind to the point that the desert and Marlo have become one-in-the-same. Both are insurmountable obstacles that he has to fight through with all his might in order to overcome. Both have brought terror to him and both now threaten to claim his life. "I will show you fear in a handful of dust."

After so many years of this medium being defined by mindless violence and explosions that otherwise would exist only in Michael Bay's wet dreams, Uncharted 3 - and the desert sequence in particular - was a welcome change.

[MayonnaiseNipple]

"I agree. UC3 was overrated. Especially by girl gamers who have a crush on Nathan Drake."

lolwut

Please explain to me how Uncharted 3's story was "ridiculously hokey and convoluted." USE YOUR WORDS TO BACK UP YOUR ARGUMENT.

Oh God, the floor is crumbling! Just like Uncharted 2! THIS MEANS IT'S THE EXACT SAME ENDING. It's not like it's a cliche, Uncharted 2 invented crumbling floors. How dare you Naughty Dog.

There were 2 "Drugged Moments" in Uncharted 3. Both were relatively short. They were supposed to be trippy and surreal. Both times were memorable in their own right, like seeing young Drake run from the *ahem* spiders and fighting the Djinn, and more to the point it was interesting to see Drake lose his mind, see him vunerable, a common theme throughout Uncharted 3, like in the desert. We have already seen Drake bruised and bloody, that was nothing new to us or Drake. We watched Drake deconstructed, almost to a primitive level. Hearing the truth of his past, watching his friends get hurt, unsure of the fate of his best friend, teacher and mentor took it's toll. The brutality of the desert brought things to a more physical level as well. Drake was pushed to the breaking point, more than any bullet could do. We saw our unbeatable protagonist losing not only hope, but himself as well. We saw him fall, and the only thing picking him up was his own delirium. All within the span of 20 minutes, in-game, little dialogue. But I'm sorry if your A.D.D started acting up, and you were unable to sit still, screaming because you couldn't shoot things in the face.

Gunplay was toned down a bit, with a bit more of a focus on exploration and puzzles. The puzzles themselves were, in my opinion, actual puzzles, and not looking at your journal and seeing the answer right in your face.

I WILL agree, to an extent, that the spiders (not "beetles") were overused, but your encounters with the spiders, as well as your methods for fighting them were usually different. And apparently spiders are overused, but having to go through wave after wave of nameless grunts throughout the past 3 titles is not. Brilliant.

And may I say your complaints regarding the controls make no-fudging-sense. It's been a while since I played Uncharted 2, but if I remember correctly, button for button it had the exact same controls. The only real difference is the addition of bloom, however this has become a standard in the genre and fits well within Uncharted. And the bloom itself isn't really too vicious, so unless you're going full-auto on someone 500 meters away you should be fine.

Enemies have always been bullet sponges, it's not something exclusive to Uncharted 3.

Oneshot sniper lasers are, again, not exclusive to Uncharted 3. Go find Schafer in Uncharted 2 again. THEY ARE EVERYWARE. And don't get me started on Navarro's erratic shotgun that ganked your ass every-goddam-time you poked your head out.

BEING LOCKED IN A MELEE FIGHT WHILE GUY'S ARE SHOOTING AT YOU.

NOT.

FUCKING.

EXCLUSIVE.

TO.

UNCHARTED.

3.

GODDAMMIT.

(CAPS-LOCK IS FUN.)

You are constantly whining about legacy issues that started with Uncharted 1. If anything, I feel like 3 was the most refined.

Perhaps I am drinking too much Uncharted Kool-Aid. But you sir, should stop drinking so much Haterade.

[flavorbabies]

AMEN.

[Orionsangel]

Too many fucking snipers with laser sighting in UC3!

[SpinalRemains138]

Every EA sports game after 2004.

The Tiger Woods series has crapped the bed so many times, it may as well be called "We Crapped the Bed Again! 2013"

[JDcg]

The biggest problem for me with UC3 was the ending. That was not even a boss fight. You come from a game like UC2 where Lazarovich was one tough S.O.B. to fight, to a game where you just have to press "x" or "o" when it tells you to. I did not feel like a bad ass at the end of that game. UC3, even with all of the hype, did live up to my expectations. It was gripping, exciting, and i just couldn't put it down. I was so excited to see what the boss fight was going to be and when it was that I was just really disappointed. So, I have to give UC2 the upper hand.

On a side note, in All star battle royal, I hope drakes ultimate move is something like him making the whole level get destroyed but him just narrowly escaping. He should be in jail for all the civilizations he has destroyed. LOL

[kickerz]

Disagree with gears Of war3 being worse then 2.. I own 1,2 and 3 and gears 3 is by far the best. Especially with its kick a s s multiplayer. Was a good game.. Now I play max Payne 3 ^_^ love it.

[MacDonagh]

I really didn't care for this article much but what got me a little perturbed was the statement about Dom from GOW3 "taking the easy way out." In terms of narrative, it was clear that he sacrificed himself so that his team could survive. Implying what Dom did was some sort of selfish action is a highly disingenuous assertion. Not to mention that if it truly was "the easy way out"; there would be a much higher suicide rate because people would just do it for the strangest reasons like a forthcoming root canal or an AIDS test or not having milk for a bowl of cereal.

[thatdudesfrys]

Whats wrong with mass effect 3 and uncharted 3?! They're solid sequels, well, except for the endings of ME 3... but that aside, those sequels should not be on that list.

[trenken311]

I liked U2 a lot but U3 was just more of the same and even though I finished it I kind of lost interest halfway through.

[aliengmr]

Red Faction: Armageddon

It was like the devs could not properly express their disdain for RF:G so they made RF:A. RF:A took everything RF:G got right, and did the opposite.

Example: Open-world -> Tunnels

Gee, wonder why that failed?

[Pieface08]

COD MW3 SUCK REALLY BAD, SAME CRAP EVERY YEAR.

[ZeroWil]

I wouldn't put Gears 3 on here. I loved all whole trilogy, but the multiplayer in Gears 2 barely functioned for the first couple of months or so! SP wasn't as strong as the others, but Gears 3 improved on everything else.

[PandaJenkins]

There is a ridiculous amount that could be listed....

[AngelicIceDiamond]

I would switch out ME3 and put Halo Reach on that list. Great story, but everything else had poor lasting appeal. meaning nothing stood out in the game.

[Bobby Kotex]

Stupid article. It would have been interesting to use more contrasting examples, Like Duke Nukem.

[gamerben]

has he not not played any games made before this gen?

[trouble_bubble]

heh, yeah no doubt! so many writers simply don't have experience outside of this gen' or outside of AAA games. Uncharted? Gears? Fallout?

Some other, better contenders imo:

Manhunt 2 (killed the franchise)
The Suffering 2: Ties that Bind (killed the franchise)
Crackdown 2 (killed the franchise)
Dead to Rights 2 (killed the franchise)
Socom 4 (killed the franchise)
Tomb Raider: Angel of Darkness (almost killed the franchise)
BloodRayne 2 (killed the franchise)
Driver 3 (almost killed the franshise)
Dino Crisis 3 (killed the franchise)
Turok Evolution (killed the franchise)
Golden Axe BeastRider (re-killed the franchise)
Duke Nukem Forever (re-killed the franchise)
Blaster Master 2 (killed the franchise)
State of Emergency 2 (killed the franchise)
Destroy All Humans 2 (killed the franchise)
Tak 2 (killed the franchise)
Legend of Zelda 2: The Adventure of Link
Super Mario Bros 2
Super Contra
Ninja Gaiden 3 (NES and 360/PS3 interations)
Mercenaries 2: World in Flames
various Mortal Kombats
various Mega Mans
various Castlevanias
various Spyros
various Sonics
various Tom Clancy sequels (Ghost Recon/Rainbow Six/Splinter Cell)
various Resident Evils
various Silent Hills
Final Fight 2
Max Payne 2
X-Men Legends 2
Fatal Frame 2
SSX On Tour
Doom 3

[gamerben]

Don't forget Other M! though I guess some people actually like that game crazily enough...

"Legend of Zelda 2: The Adventure of Link
Super Mario Bros 2
Super Contra"

Ouch, gotta disagree there, I enjoyed all of those games. I would even say I liked super contra better.

[Rock_On_PS4]

skyrim is an open world free roaming gaming that can easily chew up over 100 hours of your time. skyrim is far more polished game than oblivion.

uncharted 3 and uncharted 2 for me were both great games and i rate them equally 9.5 out of 10.

gears of war 2(9/10) was a step down from gears of war(9.5/10). gears of war 3(9/10) was as good as gears 2 but not as good as gear of war. mass effect 3(8.5/10) was a huge step down from the great mass effect 2(9.5/10).

final fantasy xiii was the biggest flop of this generation bar none. 7 out of 10 game and a long way behind the great final fantasy games rated 9 or 9.5/10.

[black911]

Replace Uncharted with Halo as the default Pic.

[MWH]

the word "worse" is wrong, "less" is more appropriate.

[CaitSith]

I agree that New Vegas is worse than Fallout 3.

[corrus]

Mass Effect 3 i think you will agree with me

[MWH]

am i the only one who thinks that the word "worse" is incorrect here? "worse" suggest that the earlier games were bad;

good < better < best
bad < worse < worst

use "less impressive" or something instead my friend.

[abzdine]

Killzone 3 is also missing. Crappy æultiplayer and weak single story campaign.

[Heavenly King]

For me U3 is better in every aspect than U2

[Amaterasu5]

Uncharted 2 was the worst sequel and most overrated at that. The most generic game I've ever played.

[stage88]

Your one bubble says it all.

[sich92]

And your butthurt says it all too. UC2 really did suck.

[stage88]

*Looks up scores for UC2*
*Looks at you*
*Laughs*

[aDDicteD]

those 5 in the article where just the slightly better predecessor,, why not go with those predecessor that were waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more better like:

resident evil 5 ( re4 was way beyond better and re5 was the lowest in all re franchise)

killzone 3 (killzone 2 was really good and i think that many play kz2 multiplayer than kz3)

[Pana]

Oh dear. This article is exactly why Metacritic shouldn't exist.

[izumo_lee]

I find it funny that the site has yet to mention NINJA GAIDEN 3 at all. That game although ok at best was such a departure from the previous games it left a sour taste in a lot of fans mouths.

The thing with Uncharted 3 is that it had to live up to the extremely high standards that Uncharted 2 left in the game industry. By itself UC3 is a very excellent game but if you have to compare it to UC2 as a whole, yeah it is a step below it. It by no means mean it is a unworthy sequel, it is just that the expectations for it was so great after UC2.

[Tzuno]

I don't know what others think but after Assassins Creed I and II the games where a deja vu.

[ha2e48]

Well that was a long 4 day ban for trolling, guess I should stop trying to stick up for my beloved Xbox brand and submit to the kings, Sony and the almighty ps3 "hail" anyway back on topic, gears 3 is on this list due to its metacritic being lower, cm on gtfo, that's the first game that Made me well up for real, that game is deep, 2 was shallow as, fuck this article.

[Robotronfiend]

Dead Space 2. Not really scary anymore. I didn't care what was around each corner or lurking in each vent because I had the skills, weapons, and ammo to handle whatever version of necromorph popped out at me. Not scary. Interesting, but really just another gory 3rd person shooter. I thought Splatterhouse was better than DS2.

[PersonMan]

Uncharted 3 was better than Uncharted 2 in almost every way possible. How can you think otherwise?

The ship sinking, the cargo plane, the desert, the ending. I loved every minute of it. Uncharted 2 left me very fatigued at the end... I just wanted it to be over.

[mastershredder]

"Fallout: New Vegas is worse than Fallout 3 – Whilst it’s not a sequel as such, was New Vegas really a necessary game? It felt more like a cash-in."

Bullsh**. even if it was just a big expansion, it was a gem and well worth its price.
The vegas wasteland and the adventures it offered were awesome. The atmosphere and environmental design were a nice change to the grey/green D.C. wasteland. I hold both in high regard. Starting on Hardcore mode was the way to go. The sometimes random and sudden ailments effects were almost humorous as sometimes they would occur at the most inconvenient times. I don't why, but I just really enjoyed the sequel. I was totally okay with having a second scoop of Fallout in a western, same-tech and technique setting.

[Roccetarius]

The list is pretty much spot on with sequels being worse. Especially the Dragon Age and Mass Effect series.

Red Faction: Armageddon was a step in the right direction, but it's still not as good as the previous FPS games.

[oakshin]

just a lil FYI if u didnt play uncharted 3 in 3D u cant judge it do ur research the game was built for 3D..........sony put alot of pressure on ND to make U3 the game to showoff ps3s 3D capabilities