Nintendo CEO Satoru Iwata feels that “product bombing” campaigns is a problem that Nintendo needs to pay special attention to when building the Wii U’s Miiverse.
Lol, why would they be worried about this unless they know they're doing something wrong? What are they going to patrol it 24/7 to make sure no one talks bad about them? There are going to be haters on every system, no use getting all worked up over it Nintendo. At least those "smear campaign" people have bought your system. You're getting their money, so what's wrong with them being complaining idiots?
I heard that those rumors about wiiu being less powerful than PS360 by those anonymous developers a while back really pissed Nintendo off and hurt their stocks or something. So they may be talking about things like that...
Yea anonymous developers but some well known have been talking positive things about it.
I guarantee you that if people here on N4G had to post with their real Facebook accounts you would not see the same sort of conduct from many of the users. People like to hide behind their anonymity. Nintendo needs to be cautious because there are folks out there who get off being idiots, plain and simple. They are also right in trying to get a balance of free speech and negative campaining. Look at there on N4G and some regulars who do the same thing, they do nothing but smear campains against a company or a system they don't like. There's a distinct difference between having valid complaints compred to those who do nothing but complain and are nothing but negative. They aren't just satisfied letting others know they aren't happy, they want those they are venting to be unhappy about it as well. I can just see the comments on Miiverse. "why are you playing that game, that's for noobs and casual gamers". "Are you a soccer mom? Hey everyone, i just teabagged a soccer mom".
With them being a family orientated company (Nintendo), you can only imagine the backlash they would receive if something inappropriate would happen during an individual's gaming experience. Imagine if you owned a Restaurant... What if "certain" consumers were spreading fluff about how dirty your establishment is, or how your workers don't wash their hands before preparing a meal. Some human beings are devious by nature, which is the ultimate form of anti-repellent to me (I choose not to communicate with those who are willing to spite for you the sake of it).
I feel sorry for dem Sony FBI agents who lurk on PS Home to ensure no ones spreading lies and slander about Sony or Sony's products! Sony should fear those people and their 'smear campaigns' while playing a game of Pool or something.... This is, honestly, sad. If Nintendo doesn't want people talking shit in a Smeary-way, then do shit right more often or, turn into a communist empire. You can't stop people from speaking and to be afraid of it is a scary thing, let alone the moderation of people watching to ensure you don't have a potty mouth on the Miiverse or whatever. This Network of Nintendos just sounds tighter than a freaking virgin, in a very uninteresting way.
@mounce Read the article. This is about stopping people from making false statements with the intent to make something look bad, not to stop people from posting honest opinions. This is something Nintendo has always had to deal with(Dragon Quest 9 and MH3G where 2 games to be blasted by fanboys because of their appearance on Nintendo hardware), and Sony nearly never does. So it makes sense that Sony wouldn't worry about it.
Mounce said: "If Nintendo doesn't want people talking shit in a Smeary-way, then do shit right more often or, turn into a communist empire. You can't stop people from speaking and to be afraid of it is a scary thing, let alone the moderation of people watching to ensure you don't have a potty mouth on the Miiverse or whatever. " Sure you can because it's still their service. You abide by THEIR rules. If you don't like it then you can choose to go elsewhere. I'm tired of people who think it's their God given right to be a moron. Miiverse is a public domain within a private service. You don't think Nintendo doesn't want to control their image? Nintendo makes family oriented entertainment and those consumers shouldn't have to be plagued with immaturity in disguise to bother others. There is nothing stopping you from sending private messages saying whatever you want to say. In Miiverse that's different. Read the article, it's about keeping freedom of speech while still maintaining the integrity of what it's supposed to be.
I don't really see a problem cause if the people hate Nintendo or the console so much then why would they have bought it?
What you guys don't realize is that this is a common tactic in business. They will pay people a minimal price to run-down their competition. Not say that Sony and Microsoft do this but businesses do it. "Look it up"
is this perhaps a comment to cement the way to a possible removal of the feature? many have already said that it's going to be a nightmare to monitor and peoples TV could end up filled with swear words and racist comments. Mother's aren't going to want that to happen.
so nintendo is worried about the people that buy the wiiu to smear the wiiu. irony
So there is no free speech in video games "gasp" jk I really don't think it will effect much at all. Unless they are leaking information that your product is crap before it releases that is.. The more you try to tighten leashes the more haters you are going to get.
And shortly after Nintendo CEO Satoru Iwata concluded the meeting topic on "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all", he moved onto more pressing meeting issues involving the WiiU like "Half the specs for a next generations system is better than no next generation system at all."
What you guys don't realize is that this is a common tactic in business. They will pay people a minimal price to run-down their competition. Not say that Sony and Microsoft do this but businesses do it. "Look it up" And they may have some evidence of this type of thing occuring. Everybody acts like this type of claim is sooo outside the vein of human experience. I guess you've lived charmed lives where there is no crime and no one gets jealous and backstabs. -EVEN NINTENDO games have devious People (villians) in them, so you must be in Heaven.
So what your saying is in this awful economic climate, Nintendo is trying to put people out of work by discussing how to stop their competitors from hiring people to voice their companies opinion? The U.S. Supreme Court already ruled corporations should have the same rights as people to voice their opinions basically, even to the point of allowing them to fund outside sources to voice that opinion... I smell a lawsuit abrewing if Nintendo wants to proceed in this anti-capitalism, anti-jobs, and anti-speech posturing :)
You seem like a specific-troll BUT... Anyway... Nintendo said that they were concerned about it, NOT that they would directly stop it. Nintendo said that they would put their faith in the greater community, in being able to tell the difference between slander and a honest negative opinion. So, then what lawsuit do you suppose to levy against my client? The fact that Nintendo as a corporation chose to exercise its speech to voice a concern? How hypocritical of you, sir! Is only the right of Negative-opinion- the right to slander- the right to be unethical- your concern? Do take note however, that PROVEN Slander IS Very Much a Crime. If, you don't like Nintendo's projected solutions or concerns, then leave THIS VERY WEB Site, from which you impugn Nintendo, because “N4G.com” seems to have the same concerns and the same solutions (see red button). It was reported that my client said, “Also, if a number of game players put a remark to indicate “I think this comment is inappropriate,” the subject comments will be seen as unreliable and thereby decreases their influence on other consumers.” (Note: 'Iwata warned that Nintendo may not allow the community to moderate itself on its own.' by Debabrata Nath were Omitted due to conjecture by the article writter but still site moderation is not outside of the realm of US law.) "We cannot afford to always act on “the ethical doctrine that human nature is fundamentally good.” At the same time, however, we would like to believe in the possibility of “the wisdom of crowds,” which could create a very interesting and fascinating world, and make efforts for the services to realize it in one way or another.” So, in other words if you assertion is WRONG, I can’t go ALONG! If the allegations don’t FIT, it must be worth SPIT! (Nintendo is a Japanese Corp. but I am sure doing business in the US subjects/privies them to some of the freedoms/laws of a US Corp) Editted due to a yummy Pasting mistake.
I applaud Nintendo if users can "complain" if valid. this is a awesome thing. and I def understand wanting to weed out the bad seeds
So true, people on the internet need to be regulated. Too many assholes think they are cool trolls nowadays. Freedom of speech is great, but accountability is what balances out freedom of speech. All to often on the internet people feel like they are anonymous and therefore cannot be held accountable for the stupid crap they say.
It will be interesting how they "balance" between genuine critique and smear campaigns. Nintendo usually just ignores any complaints and plays dumb when they can't dodge a question. That said, it would also be a shame for a good game to be ruined (sales wise) just because people decide they want to hate on it. As I said, it will be interesting.
Yea, I completely believe this will only be used to deal with trolls. /s I wouldn't be surprised if they censored any comment so much as asking for for a new feature that Nintedno douse not plan on implementing (IE, some one asking for a firmware update that removes the system's regional lockout) will be deleted. Break the locks.
I wouldn't be worried if i were Nintendo, because anyone making a 'smear campaign' on the MiiVerse probably has bought a 3DS or Wii U themselves ;) Just being silly :-P and i honestly think it's good that Nintendo have their guards up on this subject, and are taking precautions to avoid it.
It's not the actual smear campaigns that bothers me. They have mostly been anonymous, so who cares. What bothers me the most is that SOME people seem to really believe this nonsense, despite what reputable 3rd party devs have said. They are so convinced that their "phantom" consoles are going to blow a next gen console out of the water. They are convinced not because of specs (none have been released!), but simply because the WiiU wears the Nintendo Logo.
"despite what reputable 3rd party devs have said" Most of them have said one or two good things pruley because they know they're selling their games on that console so it's not like their going to hurt their own game sales. Gearbox is really the only main one who has been banging on about the Wii U and thats mostly because they have Aliens:CM coming out on it. Next gen might not be that powerful and not that big of jump we got with the 360 and PS4 but it will be enough for third party developers to jump ship. Both companies have said they don't want to show off their consoles untill they can show us a good leap in gaming. Honestly you act like Nintendo always get hated on...they are getting "hated" on because they don't seem to have a clue what they are doing with the Wii U. Sony gets it worse then Nintendo, hell even Microsoft do with Kinect. So don't exagerate things Not like you'll understand...every time someone says something negative about the Wii U, you or some other Nintendo fanboys jump in and bash their opinions, you just can't help yourself. Hoestnyl Mr_Mike you just a Nintendo fanboy so it's not like I'm going to get through to you. Good luck calling more people though in the future because of their opinion, make sure you don't choke someone as you force it down their neck.
Well said. Nintendo has deserved this hate regarding the Wii U. They have yet to define their audience, but they hinted at casuals at E3 which again burns their core audience. Honestly, I think the Wii U just has nothing going for it. Maybe Nintendo has some things up its sleeve which we have yet to see, but what we're presented with so far is not that convincing. "Next gen might not be that powerful and not that big of jump we got with the 360 and PS4 but it will be enough for third party developers to jump ship" Totally agree. In fact, the Wii U won't be able to run Unreal Engine 4, so they've already screwed themselves with 3rd party support. "Both companies have said they don't want to show off their consoles untill they can show us a good leap in gaming." Right again! Nice job man!
---"Most of them have said one or two good things pruley because they know they're selling their games on that console so it's not like their going to hurt their own game sales." Oh ok, so every time a 3rd party dev compliments a Nintendo console they are doing this strictly to sell games? How foolish! These are 3rd party devs, and they do not work for Nintendo. They sell software on other platforms too! ---"Next gen might not be that powerful and not that big of jump we got with the 360 and PS4 but it will be enough for third party developers to jump ship. Both companies have said they don't want to show off their consoles untill they can show us a good leap in gaming." LOL. So let me get this straight... you admit that you don't think that it will be a "big jump", yet you are sure that 3rd parties will jump ship? The same 3rd party devs that have praised the WiiU just to sell software for 1 or 2 years. What kind of fantasy world are you living in kid? ---"Honestly you act like Nintendo always get hated on...they are getting "hated" on because they don't seem to have a clue what they are doing with the Wii U. Sony gets it worse then Nintendo, hell even Microsoft do with Kinect. So don't exagerate things Not like you'll understand...every time someone says something negative about the Wii U, you or some other Nintendo fanboys jump in and bash their opinions, you just can't help yourself." You're hating on them right now, dummy! You hated on them yesterday, and the day before that! Look VanillaBear, you are entitled to your own opinion. Believe it or not, I wouldn't have it any other way. It's just like I told our friend MikeCosgrove, "if you have that much a problem defending what you post... then don't post at all!". VanillaBear... I have the right to call anyone out, just like you do.
I am glad Nintendo is taking a stance like this. A few individual can completely ruin an experience for the majority. Goodness knows that Microsoft should regulate XBL more.
A lot of people read the header and not the story... Which is hardly surprising. -_-; The header is ABSOLUTELY incorrect, and does not represent the story at all... this is about keeping active and purposeful trolls comments from causing negative effects on ALL wiiu games, not just Nintendo's, and has nothing to do with actual honest critical comments. If anyone here remembers the Japanese amazon attack against DQ9, then they now why Nintendo would be considering this. People will blast things with bias that has nothing to do with the game itself.
so, people are going to buy the wii-u to badmouth nintendo's games? wow, that's dedication to trolling. o_O
Dicks..... Dicks everywhere. O.o
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